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They've already spoken about TAXING sugar, which means.....

Posted By: sm on 2009-06-23
In Reply to: They'll be coming for your Snickers bar and your - pepperoni pizza next...

ANYTHING with sugar in it (which is tons) will automatically see a price increase!! Now, for all those that think Obama is NOT gonna tax them, just you hide and watch. We told you you weren't gonna get a free ride with Obama...that you too would be taxed to death! It's always those led blindly that think Obama wouldn't dare tax them, they don't make $250K a year!

How foolish they are!


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Yes, I suppose you've spoken with all of Gitmo
they have told you personally they are ALL INNOCENT......pure as the driven snow....

please stop regurgitating

And by the way, while you're so busy informing yourself, you need to check out old lady Pelosi.....she's about to take away Obama's power to make any presidential decisions.......you up to date on that one? And now, even the most butt head democrats are beginning to open their eyes to her!


What the sugar daddy giveth, the sugar daddy can taketh away.
Israel could NEVER carry out any of this without the constant infusion of US tax dollars that has been shipped to them ever since 1949. Rense seems to think it amounts to about 3 trillion dollars.
elighted that I've still the means to have choices.

Some of the reasons for this are:  I have saved as much money as possible.  I have never lived beyond my means, never bought too much house, new cars, or gone into debt for travel, vacations, bling or doodads.  For years I worked in an unglamorous civil service job I no longer much enjoyed, until I could retire with a pension and health insurance. (Of course, I may lose this option when healthcare becomes ''free'' to all, and rationed to people my age.)   I was not able to afford college, but I paid attention in high school and made sure I benefited from my education.


I took a steady (plodding) course until, in my 60s, I may actually manage to fade out fairly comfortably.  No flash, no pizzazz, just careful planning and self-discipline.  Aha!  But now here's Obama saying that I have been too fortunate in my life and that, selfishness being NOT a virtue, I must be prepared to see all my careful 


Guess you've learned to live within your means?
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Taxing Us

Federal Issues:


The Problem with Taxing "The Top 5%:" Most of Them Are Small Businesses


 Despite the slowing economy, Senator Barack Obama admits that he will raise taxes if elected President. But, he assures us, only on the top 5% of income earners in America.


There's one problem with that -- most taxpayers filing as individuals in the top income brackets are actually small businesses, which create most new jobs in America.


Read more now.   cfif.org


That is VERY different from taxing "rich" Alaskans.....
and doling it out to "poor" or "middle class" Alaskans. Those checks go to EVERY person in Alaska...including the rich. That is NOT socialism. Socialism is Barack Obama levying higher taxes on working Americans and doling it out to, in some cases, people who don't even pay taxes. THAT is socialism.
Obama = Sugar
Try adding a little respect for Obama to your lemons, and you may just have lemonade!
How 'bout taxing health care, too

Heard dribs and drabs about this about a month ago. He wants to tax the employers who provide health care to the employees. Does that sound like he wants all of us to abide by HIS healthcare plan?


More on this later.


Please be right about taxing companies that send buisness overseas.
Wouldn't that be a jolt to the economy? I'd bet it would bring back at least half of the jobs lost to Mexico, India, and China. MTs would sure be in a slightly better position if it cost MTSOs more money to do business outside of the US than in it.

That would be a bill I would support - as long as they didn't attack so much pork to it!
Well sugar, it becomes anti-Semitic the minute

you use Hitler to illustrate your point.  This "occupation" you speak if simply a myth created and perpetuated by the Palestinians.  Aside from the history I posted below, allow me to post more on the subject of "occupation." 


The Jewish perspective on Palestine was that with proper development there would be room for all. Many of the early settlers were Labor Zionists and they identified with the poor Arab fellahin. In 1920, David Ben Gurion (who would later declare the State of Israel and become its first Prime Minister) stated: "under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them... Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price."

Thus the focus was on the purchase of uncultivated lands, often swamps or barren sand dunes, and with no tenants (e.g. the Hula valley, Tel Aviv).

In 1930, John Hope Simpson (chair of the Hope Simpson Commission) noted that Jews "paid high prices for land, and in addition they paid to certain occupants of those lands a considerable amount of money which they were not legally bound to pay." (P. 51, Hope Simpson report)


The next year, after Arab cries about being dispossessed from their land, Lewis French led a British effort to provide land to Arabs that had been displaced. Of the 3,000 applications received, 80% were determined to be invalid. Ultimately, only about 100 landless Arabs were offered alternative plots. (from French's Supplementary Report submitted to the Palestine Royal Commission.)

In 1936 the Peel Commission arrived on the scene. From its PRC report (p. 242): "much of the land now carrying orange groves were sand dunes or swamp and uncultivated when it was purchased.... there was at the time... little evidence that the owners possessed either the resources or training needed to develop the land."

The vast majority of Jewish owned lands had been uncultivated, often thought to be uncultivatable. Jews, who comprised roughly a third of the population, only held 11% of the land that was defined as "arable." The Peel Commission found that any land shortage was "due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population."

This increase far exceeded population increases in neighboring countries and, not surprisingly, took place in areas where development by Jews was at work. While Jewish immigration was regulated, restricted, and at times totally forbidden by the British, scores of thousands of Arabs crossed into Palestine from miles and miles of poorly patrolled land borders.


So this was the glorious country of Palestine that the Palestinians (most of them great, great grandchildren of those who live there now) talk about. Most of their ancestors were immigrants, brought to Palestine between WWI and II by the British at the request of the other Arab countries who promised them cheap oil if they helped. They did.  In the meantime, Jews had started settling there and building up the land.

The myth that the area was thriving prior to Jewish development is false.  It had its moments, but alternated between desert and malaria infested swamps.  So much for the claim that the land had been held, or at least worked if not owned by a family, for "generations." Plots were changed "annually."

Thus, while most people who don't know the history of Israel, think Jews stole the land, they are very much mistaken. It was purchased. Israeli land was developed into orange groves from swamps, from sand dunes into cities. And now, the Palestinians who hadn't the least interest in that land until the Jews developed it. wanted it. While the Israeli population increased slowly, the Arab population increased ten-fold both from immigration and very large families huddled into poor neighborhoods. Instead of building infrastructure, US aid was pocketed by Arafat and other Palestinian leaders to increase their bank accounts and to wage wars.

Arafat himself was no Palestinian. Like most Palestinians he was also an immigrant; an Egyptian. After the UN partitioned Palestine, and declared Israel a state, Palestine, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt, armed to the teeth, declared war on Israel. Though Israel had few weapons, and no help from any other country, they won the 1948 War of Independence. The Arabs have waged 5 wars on Israel, and lost all of them. In addition there have been many multi-terrorist attacks. Though won in bloody battles, Israel was forced to return the West Bank, most of Jerusalem, the Sinai and other territories which they gained with their lives in wars that the Arabs started.


That's the story. Most of you know the rest. The Intifada, the suicide bombers, the constant attacks of Arabs on Israeli settlements, the canons from the Golan Heights, which, rained down on Jewish kibbutzes, (farms) and the theft of all the money supplied by the US to Palestine which enriched Arafat's pockets and is now in the hands of his young late wife and a Swiss bank. To blind the people as to what he was doing (stealing American money) Arafat ( a terrorist himself who in his younger days blew up Jewish children's school buses) encouraged Arab Palestinians to terrorize the Israelis. Arafat continued his terrorism from Jordan and Lebanon (two Arab countries), and was kicked out of both for causing anarchy and chaos. He returned to Palestine, and more terrorist groups formed and developed, most under his directive.

Palestinian groups that support and carry out acts of political violence include Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Fatah's Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, - General Command, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and the Abu Nidal Organization, all of which are officially listed as terrorist organizations by the United States and the European Union. Until 1993, the PLO was also listed as a terrorist group, but in 1988 Arafat renounced violence. (duh) Didn't happen. The PLO Charter's full text of this infamous document negates Israel's right to exist and calls for its destruction through violence. Peace Watch has explained, the PLO's vote on April 24, 1996 did not satisfy its legal obligation to amend the charter.

Terrorism was picked up by other Arab countries. Now it goes on around the Arab world.



No problem, sugar. Vote him into office. I'm sure the nation will
I highly doubt this man will make any difference. He's certainly eloquent and able to hypnotize the masses with his line of BS though. If only words solved problems.
A little sugar makes lemonade....waiting patiently for
:-)
Spoken by a true a**
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spoken by someone who KNOWS, I suppose....
so sorry I am not up on methods of drug delivery. Sorry. It was cocaine my mistake. He snorted cocaine. He called it "blow" in his book. So I stand corrected...Obama snorted COCAINE, not CRACK. Make you feel better????
Spoken by somebody who KNOWS how to RESEARCH.
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It is because the great "O" has spoken...
and anything else is a lie. LOL. They've seen behind the curtain and know the truth but it doesn't matter. This is one strange phenomenon. lol.
That's right, the people have spoken and
Obama is our next president.
Well spoken, oh wise one.

I am proud to offer this suggestion to all of those who choose to ignore the fascism of the last 8 years and are frightened and terrified (and ignorant) of the idea of a black man in the White House:  America, Love It Or Leave It!  I have a few suggestions where you all can go, too! 


Yes, I too have been worried about some sort of attempt on President Obama's life before we can be rid of the Bushies, leading to an attempt by them to hold onto power forever.  However, I think they have screwed up the country so much that even THEY don't want it anymore. 


Keith is great.  The first of the mass media to speak up about the unconstitutional actions of the Bushies.  Why was the rest of the media so frightened? 


On a bright note, I suspect that Bush's appointment by the Supreme Court was our Thermopolis Pass moment in history:  Bush's appointment led indirectly to the election of Obama, as the defeat of the Spartans at Thermopylae led to the rise of democracy in Greece, just as the rise of fascism in America has led to the resurgence of democracy in our great country. 


Now, back to taunting Mr. 644 and the Evil Q! 


The people have spoken now and

they still aren't listening.


It's not a matter of pubs or dems. Our voices should be heard, but there are too many politicians who are deaf. I think we should all donate $1 to buy hearing aids for them all.


Spoken by the true whiner that you are. By the way sm

Do you have an abortion to have an opinion about it. So that means that all prochoice people have had abortions or else they would not have an opinion, right? 


Until you've been killed by an Islamic terrorist you have no right to complain?


If you are against this war why don't you fly to Iraq and tell Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to surrender?


If you hate the war so much, why aren't you acting as a human shield?

Funny. I don't remember you complaining back when Clinton was bombing the hell out of Iraq in '98.


Spoken as a true partisan.

No, spoken TO a true partisan

Only the conservatives on these boards fail to open their eyes and be objective when it comes to Bush and his actions.  They're obviously partisan conservatives.


However, the people who continue to defend Bennett after Bush himself condemned Bennett's statement... well, there's a name for them, as well.


I think we're starting to see a divide in the conservative party.  Those who just blindly follow Bush, unwilling or unable to see what's really happening, and the more sinister, dangerous, racist group who wouldn't mind seeing all black babies aborted.  Those who insist on defending Bennett are emphasizing that distinction, which is a good thing.  Let these people reveal themselves for what they really are.


I guess God himself has spoken to you and informed you
that the rapture will pass Lilly by.

Everyone tune in Divinity is speaking on the chat board tonight.

Joke!
Spoken like a true leader...nm

spoken by the grammar police.
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The Church of the Self-Righteous Has Spoken

I don't care what anyone believes or practices - freedom of religion 


It's the freaks who think THEIR religion is the ONLY RIGHT religion who scare me.


Even Jesus was a liberal.


spoken like a true liberal....lol...nm
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No Truer Words Were Ever Spoken
During this election year let's be reminded of these words:
 * You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich.
* You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong.
* You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging thrift.
* You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage payer down.
* You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting class hatred.
* You cannot build character and courage, by taking away men's initiative
and independence.
* You cannot help men permanently, by doing for them what they could and
should, do for themselves.
Do you recognize the author?
It was Abraham Lincoln
Very, very wise words, written years ago and we still don't get it.....
Spoken like a truly twisted fool nm
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You have spoken out against O'Reilly frequently...
polls do prove more and more people are listening to him, so that must be saying something about how they are truly feeling about Obama and it AIN'T positive.

For the most part, people who voted for him are NOT happy with what he is doing. I can name 10 neighbors on one side of my cul-de-sac alone who voted for Obama and is now regretting that vote. They have seen exactly where all this debt is heading, straight to their wallets and they definitely don't make 250K or more a year. It is going to grab them elsewhere but tax them to death none the less. If that's 10 out of my small cul-de-sac alone, I won't even bother to tell you how many at our community pool over several blocks of our neighbors are now openly regretting their vote.

They are definitely not happy with how he is handling anything because he isn't capable of handling anything..... he's nothing more than a puppet and someone else is pulling his strings.

If he gets healthcare reform through, you won't have to worry about who gets in the white house, because you'll be too taxed to death to care.
Spoken like a true extremist....(nm)

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Nicer? Spoken by the queen of the horrific! sm
Let's get this straight gt, the most horrible things said on either board have been said by none other than you.  I am absolutely convinced that you are using many different names to post under.  The rage that is inside of you just is too easy to spot.  Several other posters have said the same.  No one, and I mean NO ONE comes close to your hatefulness.
Spoken like a true blue member of the
Rah! Rah! Sis-boom-blah!
Spoken like a true BDD party faithful...
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No, am not being racist by not liking how words are spoken
If so then would be against my racially mixed family. I do not like hearing ebonics, I do not care for certain dialects. I am able to say this because I live in America. I do not see hypocrisy in being able to say how I feel. Oh, I do feel the cartoon is racist. How many times have black folks been referred to in that same vein. Certainly it is.
Spoken from a true MSNBC stooge
Pathetic???? As Bones from Star Trek would say "My God Man"...turn on your TV. Turn it off of MSNBC and get some real news. ALL channels are covering it. Except MSLSD and not sure about CNN. No real news there so I never watch it.

Thousands upon thousands upon thousands all over the countries. And they are not even showing the smaller towns.

Wake up and at least try and act a little patriotic and show that you actually care about the country and the direction we are headed.
spoken like a true freedom of speech liberal....NOT.
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Spoken like a true UNeducated person. Generalize some more.
Undereducated rednecks? Religious right wingers? Evil? Um, you obviously do not know what the word "objective" means, yet you call someone else undereducated? lol Your statements are classic prejudice and make you sound very hostile. It must be a burden carrying so much hatred in your heart all the time.
Spoken like a true jealous, ugly woman.
I am so amazed that the people who seem to be the hardest on Palin are women.  She has been a success in her state.  She has more experience at running something than Obama does and yet you lemmings think he is GOD.  Give me a friggin break.  I think women are out to get Palin just simply because they are jealous and/or ugly and can't stand the fact that a down to Earth, good looking, smart woman like Palin could have made it this far.  If Palin were on the dem side.....you all would be drooling over her.  Well....she is a republican and I'm sorry she isn't as ugly as Hillary, but Palin is very capable of being the VP of our country.
Spoken like a true jealous, ugly woman??!!

How dare you call someone names like that, simply because she disagrees with your political views?


The only one who comes across as "ugly" is you.


The truth is that Sarah Palin doesn't even know what the job of Vice resident entails.  She's an embarrassment to every intelligent, qualified woman out there who WOULD be ready to step in and take over if need be, and there are plenty of them.  Kay Bailey Hutchinson comes to mind right now, along with Elizabeth Dole, just to name two.


Just one more example of John McCain's terrible judgment.


OBAMA WON, the American people have spoken loudly
hahaha
Spoken by someone who posted about Laura Bush's accident about 40 years ago. sm
But I guess we were supposed to forget about that, too?
much ado about nothing...reporter posed question as, "had he spoken to any *living* presidents?..
i agree the reporter's question was absolutely LAME..."has he spoken to any LIVING past presidents?" um...as opposed to talking to dead ones? I thought his response was quick-witted considering the idiocy of the question--at least he didn't put the reporter on the spot and embarrass her...instead he made his first gaffe as POTUSE and already apologized. let's hope the reporters ask SMARTER questions at the next conference.
Can't chew gum. Would've if I could've.

Even got hypnotized. Supposedly guaranteed to quit. Lasted 5 hours. Thank heavens I never smoked anything stronger.


I think you know what she means...nm

Oh, by all means, it is I who thank you.
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This means nothing to me
I have seen this and it has been debated as naseum.

As far as winning in Iraq, I am not sure what we are supposed to win.


And please, don't EVER call me your DEAR again. Keep your patronizing on our own board.

Thank you.
It means nothing to you. sm
Yes, by all means, save your anger for being called dear when there it is posted in black and white what the antiwar movement did to our soldiers in Vietnam.  Lord love a duck, but I have seen it all now.
Oh, I know what it means....
It is just an uneducated, goofy thing to say...that's all.  And you should apologize to all those "grandmas" on this site who you just offended.  You are so negative!
Thanks - that means a lot
Was wondering if anyone would comment. I always question what the government feeds us, but I truly never have in my entire life ever heard our enemies say they hate us because we are free. I always think - how absurd. They just want us to leave them along and stop imposing our viewpoints on them. Thanks again.
I did not know what this means
I'm not sure if you're implying this is a good thing or not and because I didn't know what it means I looked it up. I'll write what I found out and then you can tell me if you think its a good thing or not.

Black theology refers to a variety of Christian theologies which has at its base in the liberation of the marginalized, especially the injustice done towards blacks in American and South African contexts. Black theology mixes liberation theology and the work of Paulo Freire with the civil rights and black power movements.

I had to keep researching certain terms in this because it was still confusing, so I looked up liberation theology and it states that liberation theology is a school of theology within Christianity, particularly in the Roman Catholic Church. Two of the starting points of Liberation theology are first, the question of the original sin, and second, the idea that Christians should make good use of the talents given by God, and that includes intelligence in a general sense, and in particular science.

I then looked up who Paulo Freire is and it says he was a brazilian educator and influential theorist of education. He became familiar with poverty and hunger during the 1929 depression and these experiences shaped his concerns for the poor and would help to construct his particular educational viewpoint.

There's way to much information on both these topics to write here, but to me it sounds like another positive for the Obama's Trinity Unity Church.