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Twist away, the truth is out there. Sam's right. You're wrong. nm

Posted By: ms on 2008-09-21
In Reply to: Unbelievable is all I can say, keep twisting - the truth. nm




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You lie and twist the truth.

If you check the archives you will see multiple requests to folks to stick to their own boards.  I have no reason to lie about this but apparently you do.  And it is so very easily verified.  My advice to you is that if you continue to lie to not pick such obvious lies to tell.


As far as the other board, it seemed the liberals stayed off it for a while and there is still very little liberal activity on it.  Check it out.


Wrong. The truth is not yet known.
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You're not telling the truth.

One more time, THIS IS FROM OBAMA'S WEBSITE.  Point out where it says "required" or "mandatory" or any other such similar word.  The word "REQUIRED" came from the propaganda site -- it was invented -- and linked to Obama's site.


BELOW IS WHAT CAME FROM OBAMA'S SITE:


America Serves



 


"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."


 


The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.


http://change.gov/americaserves/


 


If you're done with this board, fine. You don't see the truth

It was not Bush who sent the jobs overseas. The first Bush had a hand in starting it, but CLINTON expanded it to the crap we see today.


I live in a small community of garmet workers and shoe companies. All are gone now because of NAFTA. China bought the last shoe company (very well known for its quality shoes) in this area and promptly closed it a year later because they didn't want the competition for their cheap reproductions.


There are no jobs here and hasn't been any jobs here for the past 10 years. You wanna argue that point while I see all our workers collecting unemployment because now they are either too old or too poor to go to another county to get a job 30 miles away?


We have turned into a bedroom community for the people from NY, NJ, and Phila but that doesn't help the people who have worked hard all their lives to be pushed to the side because of NAFTA.


If the O gets in, it will definitely be worse. All you that work in a production job, banking job, etc. will not have a job. I would almost guarantee that within the next 4 years. If I'm wrong, okay. That would be great.


And, by the way, Ayers will not anser any questions the press asks, and he definitely should not be teaching our children in college.


Truth? You're delusional if those think those hateful . . .
signs portraying President Obama as Hitler, as a socialist, a lot of them extremely racist, are truthful.  And those are the signs that were shown on the coverage from Fox.  Inciting hate and racism is Un-American, no two ways about it.
Okay, so only Fox News tells the truth. I see where you're coming from. nm
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You're wrong...
Everybody is innocent until proven guilt for me.  That's the American way.  I'm not picking and choosing who suits me to be guilty or innocent.  As for somebody's life being in jeopardy, that's isn't even mentioned in the indictment.  In fact, it may be that the woman wasn't outed at all, being that she pushed paper at a desk and everybody and his cousin knew where she worked.  I think this is either payback for the Ken Starr investigation or an attempt to park a dark cloud of suspicion over the White House, being that even with everything that is going wrong the polls show that 44% of the country would vote for a Democrat and 44% of the country would vote for a Republican if an election were held today.  The Democrats have no solutions, so they try to discredit the Republicans so that they'll at least get a vote against the Reblicans to put them back in the White House.
Actually, you're wrong about that.
See link. Some people believe anything they are told, I guess.


http://www.econedlink.org/lessons/index.cfm?lesson=EM219
You're wrong
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Oh, you're quite wrong.
I would have replied exactly as I did whatever your gender. I might have substituted "Bub" for "my dear", but that makes no difference.

Trying to portray yourself as the poor widdle victim of misogynistic meanies is no different from someone misplaying the race card in order to deflect unpleasant truths.

Grow up.
Yup. You're wrong.
If they put up a statue to that pathetic joke, AL Gore, "inventor of the Internet" and "Chicken-Little of Global Warming (NOT!)", then I want to be a pigeon. And incidentally, I'd like the honor of being the first one.

Take your judgments and take a hike.

I agree with you and yet I'm still wrong. You're only here..sm
for a fight and you know it. Even when I agree you still are in attack mode.

Please show some accountability and show me where I said you mentioned this administration. I said we may never see eye to eye on the administration and from your vicious attacks here on the liberal board gives me the impression that you see nothing wrong in Iraq, but that we are not sending care packages. That's been your main argument here.

You are the one imagining things. You cant even grasp the fact that a liberal (myself) was actually agreeing with you about the care packages, so you had to turn it all around and start the argument that I shouldn't send anything. You have a lot of anger in you and it's not my fault. I'm sorry my dear, I can not separate the fact that our soldiers need care packages from the administration that sent them to war, but they need them nonetheless. Like I said I will do whatever my heart leads me to do, and you and YOUR bitterness will have no say in the matter.
pssst...you're both wrong, too bad.
That's what happens when you swallow your bait whole on Faux News! By now everyone should know that Sheehan was never even asked to zip up her jacket and stated that if she had been, she would have done so without any problem.

Also, it was revealed several days later that there is NO law against wearing shirts with statements or political messages at the SOTU. The Capitol police have apologized for their mistake. Right.

So, turns out that Sheehan (who Bush just happens not to like)did nothing more than accept an invitation, wear a preferred shirt and show up in her assigned seat. All the silly nonsense about unfurling a banner or refusing to cooperate with police or being a nuisance was no more than lies spread by the very people who are constitutionally incapable of telling the truth, cowards afraid to be in the presence of anyone who disagrees with them, even if that person is totally silent - and they will break, bend, twist and contort the law in any way they can to avoid having the truth look them in the eye.

Unfortunately, they have too many Americans duped into believing and repeating their nasty little memes every time they are vomited out.
Nope you're wrong

I haven't posted here in quite a while.  And as I said, there are apparently quite a few others that post here.  When some of us see your posts deteriorate into bullying and name-calling we speak up about it.  It's as simple as that.


I think you're numbers are wrong. The top 5% of
the U.S. makes millions and billions. $200,000 is NOT the 'top 5%' of the country. It's definitely more than a single, head-of-household MT makes, but depending on where you live, it won't put you in that mansion on the hill, either.

When he talks about raising taxes on the top 5%, he's not talking about YOU. He's talking about people like Bill Gates. He's talking about huge corporations (like the oil industry, tobacco industry, HMO & insurance industries, etc.) that rake it in, and then have a jillion and a half loopholes and secret cubbyholes to stash it in.


You're in the wrong place s/m
If you want an objective, nonbiased opinion don't expect to find it on this forum.  Read the ridiculous stuff aimed at ditzing Obama.  Ridiculous.  My suggestion is to watch the candidates as much as possible and listen carefully to what they say.  You can also usually find video clips of their stump speeches, etc. on Yahoo.  Don't depend on anyone to make up your mind for you, do your research and vote your conscience.  That's the best I  have to offer.  No use being reduced to tears.
you're talking to the wrong sm --

You're Wrong, Kendra
We didn't invade Iraq because "Saddam Hussein was well on his way to becoming another Hitler." You have no idea what you're talking about, Kendra. We invaded Iraq because of a pack of filthy lies by a pack of filthy liars who lied about WMDs and yellowcake uranium, and the list goes on and on and on....

"Fighting a little on other soil." Nice turn of phrase, Kendra. How about 4243 American military personnel killed since Bush's war began? How about somewhere over 90,000 Iraqi civilian casualties since Bush's war began? How many Iraqis participated in the 9/11 attacks, Kendra? ZERO. How is invading Iraq defending our way of life, Kendra? AL Qaeda in Iraq DIDN'T EXIST until Bush's war. How about a price tag of $3 TRILLION and counting, Kendra?

Anybody who claims to be against the cost of the stimulus bill while turning a blind eye to the human and monetary cost of Bush's war in Iraq is a hypocrite of the worst kind.
Well, how YOU think she looks, you're right, I'm wrong, now u r happy........nm
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Well, how YOU think she looks, you're right, I'm wrong, now u r happy........nm
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Yep still in Ohio and you're still wrong sm

Guess we play by different rules down here. Ya'll come down and see us some time.


I don't know where you found your info, but here is info I found at this website under food stamps fact sheet:  http://jfs.ohio.gov/families/food/index.stm


Doesn't say anything about being taxable or not and definitely does not specifically forbid soda.


What can be bought with food stamp benefits?


Food stamp benefits can be used to buy most food or food products intended for human consumption. Items which


may not be purchased with food stamps include alcoholic beverages, tobacco, hot food and hot food products


that are prepared to be eaten immediately. Individuals who receive food stamp benefits may not sell or trade food


stamp benefits, buy nonfood items or use food stamp benefits to buy food for someone who is not a member of


the household.


 


Ah, but you see, you're wrong again. (Are you masochistic or something?)
LOADS of folks on the forum get my humor (for instance, please read the testimonials posted by my mother and sister - both of whom are of the female persuasion) - among others. I'm putting them into a scrapbook.

...and I think you meant "THERE you sit", since I checked and didn't find you hiding under my desk. Wait, though. I forgot about the trash basket.
Excuse me, but I think you're wrong. (sm)

Those who hate JTBB and continously nip at her heels like pesky, rabid chihuahuas are allowed to communicate with her in any manner they choose, the more hate filled, the better.


It's those posters who try to be polite, those posters who understand and (God forbid) AGREE with JTBB who aren't welcome here.


What I usually come away with after reading one of JTBB's posts is an opinion with a very well thought-out opinion borne from a lot of research.


She's one of the fairest minded and intelligent people to post on this board, in my opinion, and for having that opinion, I'm sure the fire will be aimed in my direction for having the unmitigated gall to say something NICE about her, when only the most hateful insults towards JTBB are tolerated here.


P.S. to the person who demands how everyone communicates on this board:  JTBB is being singled out by a person who is interested in discussion of issues and isn't interested in bashing, insulting and bullying.  There are very few, if any, on this board who fit that profile.


You're on the wrong board, aren't you?

"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.

"We" did not do the righ thing...


Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....


We may never recover from President Obama, at least not in my lifetime.


I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren.


Libs refuse to call it socialism.


But that's what we're putting into office.


Bush opened the door a crack.



Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.



Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.
"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.

"We" did not do the righ thing...


Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....etc......


We may never recover from President Obama and his "change", at least not in my lifetime.


I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren, who will be left to foot the bill, and have less rights than we do now.


Libs refuse to call it socialism.


But that's what we're putting into office.


Bush opened the door a crack.



Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.


The barn door is wide open, and the winner take all (Obama). "Never let a good crisis go to waste" as his team has recently stated.


He has, and will, take full advantage of our fears, as even he, Obama, was the fear monger today.



Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K, (and other things I can't even imagine as of yet unveiled b....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.
I think you responded to the wrong person here. You're
My whole point was that the UK is not the country to talk about banning "extreme" ideas. They're loaded with extremists yammering on every street corner and advocating violent jihad.
you're wrong, S. FLA the illegals paid on the books
at least the ones I know.....the ones who did arrive with at least a visa.....and who get paid off a company payroll and not off the books or in cash is what I mean....
Kinky. I think you're on the wrong message board.
Sicko!
Then you're apparently listening in the wrong places. nm
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Yep, you're right....it was probably that pesky "sm" poster typed in wrong....my bad.
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You sure know how to twist things up...sm
I know you are confused on the definition of patriot and freedom. An antisemite is someone who hates jews. This would not be me. What was antisemitic about any comment I made? Israel should not have a blank check to do whatever it pleases and be free of criticism.
Interesting twist
I heard on Face the Nation today that Chuck Hagel and Mayor Bloomberg were considering running together, perhaps on an independent ticket; did not indicate who would fill the top spot. Nebraska and New York, velly velly interesting. I personally would LOVE to see a viable third party. The same old same old has not been working well for quite some time; ergo, Obama's popularity. Even tho Bloomberg and Hagel are not new commodities, running as a third party ticket would certainly be different (one can only hope).
Like I said, no matter how you try to twist it,
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People twist
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Twist words much
The school closing was because of the ice on the roads (a wise safety precaution) not because of he cold temperatures. No one was complaining. Rather, he was having a casual conversation about how his daughters were adjusting to their move (they are allowed to have their own perceptions, aren't they?). No scandal there so I guess you felt compelled to introduce tardy to his list of mortal sins. Contradictory? Hardly. He's been right on his same message ever since the first hour of the primaries. No surprises to those who have been paying attention.


My twist on your situation
I was a democrat who became a republican and will probably reaffiliate as an independent in the not-too-distant future. I find the assumptions made on this board amusing and likely as not completely off base.

I think Obama is a likeable guy, but his starry-eyed supporters drive me up a wall. If not for the lunacy surrounding him and his office I probably wouldn't feel as apprehensive and insecure about his presidency as I do. Okay, I don't agree with him on much so far, but I so believe he's intelligent and sincere.

Try not to take the categorizing too seriously; it's just more silliness.
LOL...I didn't twist anything...(sm)
That's Fox's shining star with the gas can.  He did that with no help whatsoever from me.  That's your hero...not mine. 
Another twist/question...(sm)
Since Israel was poised before the election to sling some rockets towards Iran, do you think they'll be butting in, and do you think Obama can hold them back?
I said that was one reason. Don't twist my words. sm
Typical liberal ploy.  I can't believe how ignorant of history you are! 
No, and please don't twist my words. The conversation is sm
that Hitler founded his total belief system on the three pillars I posted here, the first being Jews and Communism.  I don't know how much more clear I can be frankly!   Where in the world did I EVER say he was sane.   I am talking about HISTORY.  I am not quite sure what you are talking about!
Why is it that you always find a way to twist things...sm
to your advantage? We went from Michelle Obama's thesis to Rev. Wright. Of course he is a racist. Has anyone here said he isn't?
No they were not....don't twist what little facts that were in those links..nm

You shouldn't twist people's words.

Don't you just hate the way they twist facts - see message
To hear them talk they act as thought every single soul in America voted for Obama. They did not. More people didn't vote than those who did. The ones who are so adamanet and hostile are the ones who drink the kool-aid.

I do feel better about the whole thing as time goes on because I'm hearing Rap singers and other people of color, and even a lot of democrats standing up saying what in the world??? Many are questioning the decisions and what is going on. But all I say is if it keeps going the way it is 2012 is going to be a very good year for republicans. Probably even 2010 when the next election of senators and congress people are voted in/out.

There are a few people I am hopeful for to run. I think American will also wake up and say, this is why you don't vote someone in with no experience.
Really? Yeah, try to twist common sense into
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You related to Michael Moore? You twist
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The truth sounds rude when put bluntly but still is the truth. nm
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McCain's theme song - Twist and Shout.
Biden's point was that whomever is elected President will be tested, and he feels that Obama is more qualified to deal with it than McCain. Once again, the McCain camp has twisted Biden's words to suit their own agenda.
For those who haven't read FOCA w/o a republican twist...

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c108:S.2020:


below is an exert.  The link above is the bill.


SEC. 4. INTERFERENCE WITH REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH PROHIBITED.



    (a) STATEMENT OF POLICY- It is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child, to terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability, or to terminate a pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect the life or health of the woman.


    (b) PROHIBITION OF INTERFERENCE- A government may not--



      (1) deny or interfere with a woman's right to choose--




        (A) to bear a child;




        (B) to terminate a pregnancy prior to viability; or




        (C) to terminate a pregnancy after viability where termination is necessary to protect the life or health of the woman; or



      (2) discriminate against the exercise of the rights set forth in paragraph (1) in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information.


    (c) CIVIL ACTION- An individual aggrieved by a violation of this section may obtain appropriate relief (including relief against a government) in a civil action.

Careful! Some neocon troll might twist your post into a threat!!!