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Using the phrase "drinking Kool-Aid"

Posted By: Myrtle on 2009-02-26
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On November 18, 1978, 909 inhabitants of Jonestown, 276 of them children, died of apparent cyanide poisoning, mostly in and around a pavilion. This resulted in the greatest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the September 11, 2001 attacks. Jones and several members argued that the group should commit "revolutionary suicide" by drinking cyanide-laced grape flavored Flavor Aid (often misidentified as Kool-Aid) along with a sedative.

Out of respect for the nearly 1000 innocent Christians who tragically died in Jonestown, I would like to ask the posters of this forum to find another phrase to use other than "drinking Kool-Aid" to describe a person's political beliefs. It is insulting and disrespectful to the memory of those that died in Jonestown to use this expression so flippantly.

JMHO


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he used a phrase - the same phrase that McCain used several times against Hillary - nm
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key phrase

" as far as I am concerned. . . "  Remember Britney Spears and Paris Hilton everybody!!!!


 


You like that phrase it seems. He WAS on vacation. sm
I don't know where you have been but he has been making speeches about the Hurricaine all weekend before it even hit and pledged support, etc.  So obviously, he may have been officially on vacation, but he wasn't in any way.  Do you watch TV.  He's been all over it.  Get over your own bad self.
I have never personally used that phrase myself. sm
But then, I am sure someone will expend a huge amount of energy to prove me wrong.  
I'm thinking of a phrase...
oh yeah - "When pigs fly."
The second amendment phrase that

gun control supporters always fall back on is ''well regulated militia''.  But the militia back then was considered to be all able-bodied males capable of fighting.  Also, having had such recent experience with the tyranny of an out-of-control government, our founders wiisely built the right to possess and bear arms into our constitution to make sure our new government did not become too big for its britches. 


I believe it was in Justice Scalia's opinion on the Heller case (or maybe in his questioning of the pro-gun-control attorney)  that I read something to the effect that in revolutionary war times firearms were necessary to procure food and also to protect ourselves and families from hostile attacks, bears, wolves, and other predators.  Nowadays most of us don't have to fight off wild animals anymore; the predators have become.....us.


One phrase cracked me up in your post - sm
"whether you believe in God or not as a liberal" - What? If someone is liberal, they don't believe in GOD?...
I may not believe in the same God as you (or the same concept of God is probably a better way to put it), but I don't believe liberals are any more "godless" than anyone else. I know this is off topic and I don't mean to create a stir by posting it, but it seems so "typically conservative" to make assumptions such as this.
Just google the phrase, JTBB.......sm
There's lots there.

Nothing personal, but I don't feel like being derided by anyone today for my opinions.

In fact, I'm thinking of taking a break from this board, as I doubt I would really be missed, anyway.


Salisbury is the one who first coined this phrase,.
So he probably knows what he is talking about, at least from that liberal viewpoint you are so quick to deride. Michael Savage has a different, more conservative interpretation. Good for him. Now that we have established the fact there are at least two opposing views on the same concept, the logical next step would be to respectfully discuss the pros and cons of each and get beyond the tacit dismissal.
Well, at least you have a new catch phrase. Don't wear it out now, ya hear? nm

McCain did say this in the primaries several times - same phrase exactly - nm
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Okie dokie. I am just reminded of the old phrase...
be careful what you ask for. But I do have a question...Obama has said forcefully that if he ends Iraq the war will go on in Afghanistan...so you are still going to have a war. Where the war is makes the difference? We are still going to be spending billions. The fact that it will be in Afghanistan and not Iraq makes the difference?

We are getting ready to spend billions bailing out the mess that Democrats created. No, Republicans have actually been bringing this mess up, screaming warnings about it, and the only thing this Democratic congress has done was pass a housing bill this time that further encouraged giving out those bad loans. Republicans were against it, but the Dems have the majority. Soooo...here we are. I do blame one Republican, George Bush, for signing it. He should have vetoed it.

How you can ignore something that huge and trust the fox to run the chicken house...I will be the first to say...I certainly do not understand it. But your vote is YOURS, and you should use it however you wish to.
A phrase rings in my ears too...Can't see the forest...
for the trees. And they can't.
The operative phrase "due to no fault of their own"
and then there's the millions of others that are just LAZY

I have no problem helping the disabled or even someone that lost their job and has some hard times...

My problem is those that choose not to better themselves BECAUSE of these handouts.

Dont tell me I deserve to work my ASS OFF to pay for these people to live.

I have a huge heart, and I don't make much money even after working hard, and I choose to give it to the charities of my choice, which is the way it should be, not TAKEN from me to give to people that DONT want to better themselves.
You lost me at Dems coined the phrase

If you didn't realize that the expression voodoo economics wasn't coined by Dems, then it makes me wonder how many other things you just don't realize this administration, the previous administration, or politics in general. 


The phrase voodoo economics was coined by George H.W. Bush in a debate with Ronald Reagan.  The phrase trickle-down economics is not a good thing, as you might have it sound.  It's a derogatory phrase that was first used by Republicans as a criticism regarding a dam project John F. Kennedy had planned.  He actually was the one who initiated this theory that when the GDP grows, the incomes of all American's will grow.  He coined the phrase "a rising tide lifts all boats" when referring to this economic theory, and it was the GOP that countered saying it was trickle-down economics. 


If you can't get that right, it makes me wonder how you can judge what is right or wrong with what this administration or the last administration does or has done. 


You always forget the phrase *under oath*, which is what lost him his law license sm
and the respect of the Supreme Court Justices who for the first time in history, did not attend the State of the Union address of a sitting president.  But I guess all that is okay, too.
We were, you changed it to Bush hatred, another bin Coulter phrase.nm
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That "my friends" phrase, so oft-repeated, made him

Nobody called SP a pig. Phrase means JM can call change "change,"
You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. JM can call change "change," but he is still 4 more years of W. SP is the one who is running on the lipstick platform. That's why her supporters are trying to accuse O of calling her a pig.
how about kool-aid?
nm
Kool-Aid
You do realize Kool-Aid was a term started by the Pubs to laugh at you?  Why are you using our lines?  Get your own!
kool aid
This phrase seems to mean making a horribly bad decision and doing the decision. Those poor people at Jonestown were deceived into suicide by an evil man.
Does Kool-Aid
come in chianti flavor?
tastes like.....Kool-Aid
Big gulp, come on..it tastes almost as good as the republican Kool-Aid that you'all have been drinking for years..here, I can even flavor it if you want..some Sweet and Lo and it tastes just like republican Kool-Aid..you know the stuff that makes your mind go all blank and then think only conservative hurtful to America ways.
drink the kool aid
Thank you for your post!  They drink the Kool-Aid, dont ya know?  They are brain washed.  To come up with an independent idea would be something they could not do.. As much as I look on neocons with distain I actually pity them. What a narrow look on life they have..so sad..
Bush Kool-Aid.nm
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Just don't drink the Kool Aid...sm
I don't want ice cream either.....lactose intolerant, don't ya know.
I see the Kool Aid is working. nm

Soon, Kool-Aid may be all you can afford.
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Can I offer you some Kool-Aid?
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Oh brother - get off the kool-aid

This is even weirder than the OP message.


Where's that icon of someone throwing up!


Whether we drank the kool-aid or not........sm
we still have to put up with this lame excuse for an administration. Granted, that is the case regardless of the party in office, but what we are up against is a pretty dismal prospect. It's gonna be a long 4 years.
Okay,kool-aid drinker......
I suppose you're gonna tell me giving free birth control and condoms will create jobs too? You don't need the government to create your jobs; well, maybe you believe we do, but that is not what this country is all about. Government spending money has NEVER helped us before; you suddenly think that will change anything?

This is a pork barrel spending plan............this is no stimulus plan.....

Please stop repeating Obama's words. Think for yourself.

Just because O grins sarcastically and says the words, doesn't mean a thing positive except he has white teeth.......geeeze!

MORE GOVERNMENT = MORE TAXES = MORE SOCIAL PROGRAM = MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL = MORE DEBT = NOTHING GOOD FOR THE WORKING CLASS or even the idiots who don't know they've been had!
Whose been drinking the kool-aid now?
Whoever told you Democrats do not believe in the same things you listed above as the so called right-wing "true patriots?"

The people perpetrating these misconceptions are the traitors.

People can be Democrats or Republicans and ...gasp...even independents and still be patriots.

We can agree or disagree - THAT is what this country was founded on and THAT is what makes us great.
"Cyanide in the kool-aid?"....sm
as in political genocide?  Hmmm.....now who does that remind me of......
Kool-aid drinkers. nm
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Obviously..keep drinking the kool-aid, BB.

I'd like to know what kool-aid she was drinking!!
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Drink some more Kool-Aid!!

Freeze...step away from the Kool-Aid. nm
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Yes, God deliver us from the evil Kool-Aid

Wow, you've really drank the kool-aid
I say that because you honestly don't think there's a terror threat in the world. You seem to think that everything that happens in the world is a scheme concocted by some shadow government. You can't deal with the reality that there are evil people in the world who actually want to hurt people. Well, you do believe that, but you think it's your own government. While I do believe there is some of element of corruption in all governments I do not believe my government is generating terror threats. The terror threat did not come from with the U.S. this time. It came from Great Brittain. It has also happened in Spain and other non-U.S.-run governments. I'm sorry you are so deluded by conspiracy theories that you cannot see the forest for the trees.
I'll pass on the kool-aid (nm)
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kool-aid drinkers? Obama did a lot more than
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They are drinking that Kool Aid that suspends...
reality and keeps them from understanding anything bigger than hope and change, can't see the forest for the trees. It may be nice to sit back and watch the debacle that is sure to come once O is the new dicta...sorry, president. We will have the last laugh; too bad the country is going to suffer even more before any one of them wises up.
Hmmm...Kool-Aid or lemons?

We will continue drinking Kool-Aid, and you can continue sucking on lemons.  Who do you think will be happier?  By the way, sucking lemons makes you a sourpuss!



Boy, talk about drinking the Kool-Aid.
Israel would not even exist were it not for western powers high-jack of historical Palestine dating back thousands of years. They have been sustained by US tax dollars from the get go and absent that, they would be consumed by all the hatred they and their accomplices have generated over the past 60 years with their neighbors, since nobody on the face of the earth other than the imperial global bully would think of propping up its barbarism.

You can quote your Holy book all you want and they will quote theirs. Neither side will score any semblance of lasting peace in that futile exercise, especially since they originated from the same pooled blood of the Semitic tribes, and besides, this is not 1000 BC. No amount of preaching is going to make a dent in this disaster.

The only squatters in Palestine these days are the greedy settlers who cannot be satisfied with their own real estate agreed upon in Peace Accord, but then again history shows us that the Zionists could not keep their own word if their lives depended on it. They are now continuing their land grab within the shrunken borders of the West Bank, with their most violent factions being found in Hebron, where they pillage and murder with impunity. I've got video, if you are interested.

God was taken WAY out of this equation in 1948.

If you doubt my word, just let me know and I will post a link to a 9+-minute raw video out of Gaza showing the aftermath of one of Israeli's air raids on an open market full of families and not a militant in sight. Featured there are women, children, teens and elders writhing in piles of human carnage on a field piled high with human body parts, some remains no bigger than a 3rd-grader's back pack. But a word of caution, the video is not for the faint at heart. Do not view if you have just recently eaten and NEVER play it in the presence of children. Better still, Google it yourself..."Gaza Massacre market" and select the third hit from Sabbah TV, then get back to me and show me where God is in that clip.
some of us only saw a mob of slackeyed kool aid drinkers at that
the vast majority of them, that is.
These guys don't drink Kool-Aid.
Here ya go. Just a few examples for you to mull over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAieKGwQp-s
In the flesh interview with Dr. Larry Hunter, influential conservative economist, talks about why he endorses Obama. Interview starts @ 1:25 into the clip.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2009-01-08-obama-economy_N.htm
Conservative economist Martin Feldstein agrees that "reviving the economy requires a major fiscal stimulus from tax cuts and increased government spending."

For now, most conservative Republicans who could try to block the new Democratic president's plan are willing to boost red ink. Armed with an electoral mandate and faced with a mammoth recession, Obama is being given a wide berth by the GOP. "We need to govern," says Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee. "These issues are so huge and are going to have such a devastating impact on our nation if they're not aggressively and boldly addressed, that we can't afford for this just to be a party-line event."

... but even conservative economists agree a huge stimulus package with a variety of spending initiatives is needed. "I have just two words: big and everything," says Martin Regalia, VP, Economic and Tax Policy and chief economist for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE49U3DC20081031
The endorsement from the Economist (a virtual bastion of conservatives) raised a few eyebrows.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113701/Majority-Americans-Favor-775-Billion-Economic-Stimulus.aspx
This kind of support is at least as significant as that of conservative economists.

Do you work in the Kool Aid Factory?
Or just distribute its products?
Me too - I told her don't forget the kool-aid
We need a good sense of humor to get through the next four years.