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Well surely Obama doesn't fund all sources

Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-11-29
In Reply to: One that is not funded by Obama, Anneberg Foundation - Factcheck is not a credible source

a name please of a source you would consider credible.


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Obama also voted not to fund troops in combat....
It should be apparent to all of us by now that whatever you can find on one politician you can find on another... :)

http://www.johnmccain.com/informing/news/PressReleases/454ad652-5f6d-4cb1-808d-d52a8aa6f4ac.htm
Hillary looking to Obama for guidance? Surely you jest. n/m
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Factcheck.org link inside - Obama birth certificate - nothing wrong with reputable sources for your

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html


Either that or this is one heck of a fake, plus someone planted an announcement back in the 1961 Honolulu newspaper....


!!!!!


It is what Obama DOESN'T say....
that I am concerned about.
Obama doesn't even know how many

He said he has visited 57 states in this country, had 2 more to go.  Now, if this had been Hillary or a reb candidate, the media would still be dragging this through the mud.   Maybe it was just a freudian slip?  Organization of the Islamic Conference?


A little curious.


Why doesn't Obama let Biden take over for him...
and go to DC and show leadership like McCain is? Didn't hear Letterman making that point. And you won't either. lol.
Yes, Obama won the election. That doesn't mean he's the best man

for the job.  It just means he's good with deception.  Talk about smoke and mirrors! 


I don't know who or what Obama is and I don't know what role he will play in the years to come.  What I do know is our days are number and he will set the stage for certain prophesy to be fulfilled.  Watch and see.


Is Obama The Antichrist?  I don't know.  But the spirit of the antichrist is already in this world.


You're the one not getting it. Obama doesn't not have to do much of anything

in order to win over a "moderate muslim" because they are by definition open to Western ideas regarding politics and general ideas.  They embrace a sort of liberal Islam in sharp contrast to the extremist or fundamentalist muslims who have zero tolerance and believe in and embrace the concept of Jihad against the infidels. 


I'm not just talking about muslims who live in the U.S., but muslims around the world.  For example, President Karzai of Afghanistan has been deemed a moderate muslim because of his political ideas which is why he fears violence against him from the extremists in his country.


Get it?  Obama saying that he wants to "win over" moderate muslims is akin to a MTSO saying they want to "win over" Indian MTs to work with them.  It won't be hard and will take very little convincing.  Not to mention King Obama is the "world's president."  Like I said, he's just posturing of the media.  The liberal media loves him and his pretty speeches.  Journalists have become babbling idiots since O burst on the scene. 


Iraq war fund

Iraq War Funding Imminent, Timeline Absent



After months of ranting and raving, congressional Democrats have backed down and approved funding for the war in Iraq without a troop withdrawal provision.



2nd Democratic lawmakers and staffers privately say they’re closing in on a broad budget deal that would give President Bush as much as $70 billion in new war funding.


The deal would lack a key provision Democrats had attached to previous funding bills calling for most U.S. troops to come home from Iraq by the end of 2008, which would be a significant legislative victory for Bush.


Democrats admit such a move would be highly controversial within their own party. Coming just weeks after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, vowed the White House would not get another dollar in war money this year, it would further antagonize the liberal base of the party, which has become frustrated with the congressional leadership’s failure to push back on Bush’s Iraq policy.


“The base will not be happy,” said one senior Democratic aide, who requested anonymity to candidly discuss budget negotiations that have not been completed.


The Democratic aide acknowledged the president is likely to get new money for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan before Congress adjourns for the year. “Yes, in the end, that’s where we will be,” the aide said.


The bizarre thing is that everybody knew that months ago. Of course the president was going to “win” on this issue. No Congress is going to pull funds from an army currently in harm’s way. That Pelosi and company allowed this to be framed as a partisan issue was amazingly incompetent.




Why not? Pacifists have to fund
Get a grip.
Taxpayers do not fund PBS
You obviously do not watch PBS. It is solely viewer funded and publicly owned. (Although lately I HAVE seen paid commercials on there)

I'm beginning to see the reason some of the posters here sound so ignorant.
and Obama DOESN'T mis-speak?-dont go there
Don't go there unless you are ready to hear it back. Obama thinks there are at least "57" states and talks of when the "bomb was dropped on Pearl Harbor". He is also the king of "uhhh" and "ummmm". He reads a teleprompter well. Otherwise, he makes many mistakes when speaking.
So what? Biden doesn't know the half of what Obama does....nm

Why doesn't Obama come clean about socialism?
And if you wanted to know what McCain wants to do for the country you could go to his website and read it if you have room in your brain for anything not Barack Obama.
i bet hillary doesn't vote for obama
will snicker as they push that button for mccain
I just hope Obama doesn't make use of them...
for political dissidents. You can't tell me that Congress, including Mr. Obama, do not know they exist. Come on now.
If the cigarette tax would completely fund...
the 6 billion in revenue expanding this program is going to cost,that would be one thing. It won't. You say you wouldn't mind "having your taxes raised a little." Isn't 35-40% off the top of your gross now enough? I think it is. I think they need to proritize the spending, that is all I am saying. It seems the consensus here is that health insurance for children is the most important. Then that program should be funded first. Then decide what is the next most important issue, and fund that, and on down the line. We cannot keep adding programs, adding taxes, adding programs, adding taxes. At some point it has to stop, or those paying the taxes are going to need help from a program to eat while they are working for taxes for programs. And as more and more people opt for programs and not working and paying into the system...the situation will only get worse. You do realize that realistically this cannot continue forever....right?
401K/retirement fund

You can't "take" your pension and 401K out of the stock market if you are not retirement age.  We are stuck with whatever the companies we work for invest in. my husband and I have some choices about where we invest our 401K but they all involve mutual funds, stocks, bonds, etc.


 


Borrowing from the fund is not the only problem --
I don't want to start an argument, but part of the problem is people like my grandmother (God bless her). She drew social security benefits off my grandfather for at over 20 years. She had never paid a penny into social security. Before that, he had drawn for at least 15 years. I know that he only paid in for very few years before he started drawing. So, just the two of them drew out many more thousands of dollars than they paid in.

Now think of all the people who never paid in and are drawing and the people who paid in very little and are drawing. Then think of how many more people are drawing than are paying in right now.

The funds are just not there for people to draw all their lives. I mean get real, when it was set up, people did not live as long, they did not pay in very much at all (in fact, my grandfather regularly paid in 10 cents a week before retirement), it just does not balance out. Now with the baby boomers getting ready to draw, we are really in trouble because the days of having 6-10 kids that would be contributing are over. Most of us only have 2 or less... Do you think we will ever get back the money we have contributed? No way!!!

That's why even though I feel bad for people having to go without a raise for a couple of years, I am not going to really get too upset because at least they are benefitting somewhat - My money is just lost!

Some things to think about....
RNC fund-raising letter

Michael Steele, Chairman


Republican National Committee


310 First Street, Southeast


Washington, DC 20003


 


Mr. Steele,


 


In response to your urgent ''roll call'' of Americans... (and solicitation of a donation) I can assure you that I certainly am fed up with the Obama administration and congressional Democrats.  But I must inform you that I am equally fed up with the Republican party as well.  What’s more, I feel great sense of betrayal because I expect Democrats to act exactly as they have, but not Republicans.


 


TARP and other bailouts were not a good idea just because they were begun by Bush.  The further bailouts, stimulus, deficit increase, nationalization of American business, universal healthcare and other travesties against capitalism are not bad ideas simply because Obama owns them.  These are wrong, no matter who is in charge.  Bush threw the ball, Obama knocked it over the fence.  Way to go.


 


Only in Washington, DC does it make sense to say, ''I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system.''   What makes our free market possible is the freedom of  losers to fail and winners to succeed.  No one and nothing is too big to fail. It’s how we weed out bad ideas.  You might remember this next time you are tempted to run a RINO for president.


 


The Republican party allowed Obama to be elected by fielding such a poor presidential candidate.  McCain:  Heck of a guy, admirable character, but not a true Republican.  By the time I voted in my state Ohio primary, any other appealing Republican candidate had dropped out.  In November I was forced simply to vote the NObama ticket.  I did not want a candidate who would ''reach across the aisle.''  I wanted a conservative Republican candidate.  Had it not been for Sarah Palin, I might as well have stayed home. 


 


I will not be attending the Republican ''listening tour.''  Listen to this:  The dismantling of the American way of life is on Republican as well as Democrat heads.  I now consider myself an Independent.  In 2012, if the Republican party manages to run a strong conservative candidate I will vote for that candidate. If the party persists in ''moving to the center'' and watering down its traditionally conservative principles, it will find itself in this identical situation.


 


Thanks for asking,  I feel much better now.


RNC fund-raising letter

Michael Steele, Chairman


Republican National Committee


310 First Street, Southeast


Washington, DC 20003


 


Mr. Steele,


 


In response to your urgent ''roll call'' of Americans... (and solicitation of a donation) I can assure you that I certainly am fed up with the Obama administration and congressional Democrats.  But I must inform you that I am equally fed up with the Republican party as well.  What’s more, I feel great sense of betrayal because I expect Democrats to act exactly as they have, but not Republicans.


 


TARP and other bailouts were not a good idea just because they were begun by Bush.  The further bailouts, stimulus, deficit increase, nationalization of American business, universal healthcare and other travesties against capitalism are not bad ideas simply because Obama owns them.  These are wrong, no matter who is in charge.  Bush threw the ball, Obama knocked it over the fence.  Way to go.


 


Only in Washington, DC does it make sense to say, ''I’ve abandoned free-market principles to save the free-market system.''   What makes our free market possible is the freedom of  losers to fail and winners to succeed.  No one and nothing is too big to fail. It’s how we weed out bad ideas.  You might remember this next time you are tempted to run a RINO for president.


 


The Republican party allowed Obama to be elected by fielding such a poor presidential candidate.  McCain:  Heck of a guy, admirable character, but not a true Republican.  By the time I voted in my state Ohio primary, any other appealing Republican candidate had dropped out.  In November I was forced simply to vote the NObama ticket.  I did not want a candidate who would ''reach across the aisle.''  I wanted a conservative Republican candidate.  Had it not been for Sarah Palin, I might as well have stayed home. 


 


I will not be attending the Republican ''listening tour.''  Listen to this:  The dismantling of the American way of life is on Republican as well as Democrat heads.  I now consider myself an Independent.  In 2012, if the Republican party manages to run a strong conservative candidate I will vote for that candidate. If the party persists in ''moving to the center'' and watering down its traditionally conservative principles, it will find itself in this identical situation.


 


Thanks for asking,  I feel much better now.


I don't believe Obama doesn't want town hall meetings....
because of the format...not to snub any particular town. He does not do when the questions are not scripted. No one knows what is going to be asked at a town hall meeting, and they are asked by regular folks, not paid commentators. Not enough control to suit Mr. Obama. I don't blame him. He doesn't have the experience to handle one, he would come off looking bad and he knows it. Politics 101. You would think, though, as much as he talks about hope and change and the people, he wouldn't mind answering a few questions from the people...?
Why doesn't Obama impose a windfall profits tax on the...
Hollywood bunch and redistribute some of THAT wealth if he is so he11 bent on redistributing wealth?? At least THAT windfall profits tax wouldn't raise gas at the pump!!
Repeated? Obama doesn't want to repeat tax cuts

for the rich -- and "rich," by the way, is anyone earning more than a quarter of a million dollars a year.


Obama wants to give tax CREDITS to businesses that keep jobs in the USA, instead of exporting them out of the country.


These huge greedy corporations may be creating jobs, but they're not creating American jobs.  Obama wants to try to slow that down and wants to reward companies who don't turn their backs on Americans.


Doesn't change the fact....Obama is a socialist....
and you are condoning trampling all over someone's civil rights because they asked a question and Obama answered it honestly. Why would that upset you so much? Ohhbaamaaa is socialist, he said he was in his answer, explained it very clearly. So you should just embrace his socialism and stop shooting the messenger, right?

Slurs? Unfounded accusations? You mean like doing a law enforcement background check on someone for asking a question?

That is HONEST?? pUleezzeee.
Double standard doesn't cover Obama
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Who says Obama doesn't have a good sense of humor?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090510/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_correspondents


At the bottom of this article, there's a link to watch the video - it's a hoot!!!!


Who says Obama doesn't have a good sense of humor?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090510/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_correspondents


At the bottom of this article, there's a link to watch the video - it's a hoot!!!!


Err, you mean the link to Commonwealth Fund report
"It has to do with Medicaid." Yes, Medicaid is mentioned in the report, but ONLY within the context of expanded eligibility (by various states) based on INCOME, not on age. Furthermore, the feds are actually trying to limit, as in RESTRICT, this type of expanded Medicaid coverage.

It also talks about the interplay between Medicaid and private companies and how it is picking up some but not all of the fallout from private insurance eligibility restrictions. The report goes on to say that Medicaid is functioning AS IT WAS INTENDED, thus lending credence to the assertion in the OP that the SCHIPS program being administered like Medicare and Medicaid is a good thing.

Here's a suggestion. Do a find/search on Medicaid within the article and then try to identify any single statement that indicates Meicaid AGE guidelines have been revised upward. Certainly, you will find nothing anywhere to support the hogwash in the other post that suggests it is now or ever going to be 30.

Here's a few more clues for you. In the excerpt from the other post, terms and phrases such as "nothing to do with federal mandate, their parents' INSURANCE POLICIES and allow INSURERS to set their own dependent age limits" can in no way be interpreted as referring to state funded insurance programs.

Bottom line, once again, is that the aim of health care reform is to INSURE folks, not EXCLUDE them. Raising age (and other) restrictions by private insurance companies is one of many creative ways of keeping folks OFF of state and federally funded health insurance programs.
Why shouldnt gov fund religious programs?
I should be able to get some funding just like everyone else if I have a religious program.  I mean we fund abortion here in the US and abroad.  We fund wars, we fund all kinds of CRAP so why NOT religion?  Isnt it supposed to be equal and fair?  Why is it the religious people of this world, namely the Christians get the short end of the stick? 
I guess because they/we fund it maybe? Not a birthday gift. nm
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Commentary: Voting against Obama doesn't make you a racist...sm


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/beck.issues/index.html
The congress which raided the SS fund was republican at the time
and at the rate the republicans are carrying the country, in ten years, it will resemble Argentina (who also ended up in the same place, as a debtor nation).

Israel has the republican party as it stands in his back pocket as does corportate america. The republican party isn't conservative anymore. It is a giant siphon of American assets into the pockets of the rich, at the expense of the taxpayer. Anyone can see this but the sheople who voted these clowns into office and didn't benefit from the tax cuts ::rolls eyes::.
the drug companies that fund the research for new drugs
really don't have all that much time to make money on the drugs before generics are allowed. Do you think generic companies are going to start contributing to research? For all those people who gripe about the drug companies, I would like to see the day come when the drug companies aren't willing to spend another dime on the research. The gov can pay for all the research then. They still pay for the meds, and it might be more, factoring in the waste for the gov being involved.
And govt shouldn't fund religious programs....
schools, facilities, etc.
A socialist country doesn't seem like such a bad thing?!? Then vote for Batista Obama.
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Sam........surely you know where all this
I haven't made up my mind about either party, even though I must say Palin has certainly spiced things up and it's about time.

It's only when a party feels really threatened that they might lose do they come out swinging and we would all have to be living under a rock to not see the biased opinions of our media. After Palin spoke, you immediately knew which reporters liked her and which ones were put there to cover the RNC and couldn't stand it. All I had to do was change the channel ONCE to know who the liberal media pulls for and see how the reporters remarked about her speech. And because, unfortunately, so many get their biased views from their TV set, that is all they know and follow like little sheep behind the liberal media.

You do come out swinging when you're wqrried you won't get your way!!!!!
Surely (sm)
http://newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm
Surely with

such world-wide interest and buzz about this issue, you could find a more specific board to spread and discuss with other like-minded thinkers the minute details of this vast conspiracy.  I feel a little sad that you are wasting your time here when you think this is such a major crisis.  I am not clear what great disaster you intend to divert by blowing the lid off this story, but your efforts seem to be wasted here.


 


Yuppers, I surely think you are right!!
dfd
You aren't serious, surely. SM
This is the man who told the biggest lie of all time, i.e., the lie that launched the Vietnam War.  HIs presidency was filled with graft and collusion.  You can't be serious!
You surely know how to debate.....not

....and you are one high quality person.....not.


Someone we'd definitely want to listen and debate with.....not!!


Surely this can't be the same Bush...the one who never...
had an original thought and can't find the exit...surely this isn't the same Bush you all think deceived the whole country, plus the congress, plus the WORLD, into a war?? ROFL. Can't you guys even remember what you post??
Surely you are not advocating........ sm
allowing the elderly and sick to just die. You are referring to insurance companies, right?

I agree, however, that it is mostly the little guy (although auto workers with their exhorbitant salaries and benefits could hardly be called "little") that suffer the most when a company fails. In this case, though, the CEOs of all 3 of the auto companies are working for $1 a year. One of them, maybe Ford, was already doing that which may be the reason that Ford does not need immediate infusion of cash in order to keep going.

I wonder if this will be revisited after the first of the year when Congress returns from Christmas break. Now THERE is somewhere the fat should be cut. Why doesn't Congress cut the Golden Fleece plan and some of the salaries of lawmakers and legislators in order to help our country's economical picture? You won't be seeing that happen!!
you surely are jesting
Pick Hillary? Now there's a sure fire way to lose the election. That woman has so much bad baggage. We need a person with character. I like Joe Biden. I can trust Joe Biden. Hillary you can't trust her as far as you can throw her. Yea, right, pick a VP that says she staying in the race because there could be an assissination. Talk about always having to look over your shoulder through your whole presidency and she'd be just the person to do it. What better way to waltz right into the presidents seat. Then there were all of her dirty campaign tricks she pulled and the lies (talk about deja vu of Billy). And then on top of that you put her lack of experience along side of Obama's lack of experience and you've got 2 people in the white house that don't know what their doing, with Billy Bob roaming around on top of that.

Pick Hillary??????? Give me a break.
I surely will, good or bad. n/m
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Surely he's jesting!

Former President George H.W. Bush said his son Jeb should run for president and blasted the New York Times for its grossly unfair criticism of another son, President George W. Bush.


During an interview on "FOX News Sunday," the nation's 41st president said Jeb, the former governor of Florida, is "as qualified and as able as anyone I know in the political scene" to be president.


"I'd like to see him run," Bush said. "I'd like to see him be president some day.


"As president, it's about service, service for the greatest country on the face of the Earth and the honor that goes with it," Bush said. "I think Jeb fits that description."


He added: "I mean, right now is probably a bad time, because we've got enough Bushes in there."


In the meantime, Jeb could take another job, his father suggested.


"If Jeb wants to run for the Senate from Florida, he ought to do it," Bush said. "He'd be an outstanding senator. This is a guy that really has a feel for people, the issues in Florida and nationally. And his political days ought not to be over, says his old father."


But the current President Bush's political days will soon be over, prompting the former President Bush to unburden himself about what he calls unfair criticism of his eldest son.


"It's been tough on his father and his mother," the ex-president said. We're not very good sports about sitting around and hearing him hammered, I think, unfairly.


"Now, there were some things that clearly he deserved criticism for," he said. "But I think the idea that everything that's a problem in this country should be put on his shoulders -- I don't think that's fair. And I'm not trying to get back in game by criticizing people, for example, the New York Times, but you know, it's just grossly unfair."


Bush said "it burns me up" when critics suggest he and his son are presidential rivals.


"There isn't any such competition," Bush said." We're very close, and we remained close for many, many years. People don't quite get that. But we are very close as father and son."


On Wednesday, Bush will join his son for a White House lunch that will also be attended by former Presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, as well as President-elect Barack Obama. Bush does not know the incoming commander-in-chief well, but spoke highly of Obama.


"I talked to him right after the election and... assured him that he was my president," Bush said. "I've very impressed with his style on the campaign and his coolness and his articulate nature. I think he can give a sentence and it'll sound like it's been thought out by Shakespeare or something


Ummm...you surely know!!
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Surely you have a better come back
no shame on me!
I'm surely NOT RICH and I want no part of it in my

country.  Like the other poster said, Cuba has real estate for sale.  How many Cubans (besides that little boy that was adrift and landed in the US) actually want to go BACK to Cuba??


That surely should open some eyes. (sm)

I sure hope the constituents of those candidates see these videos and boot the jerks out. I also think they should be arrested and put in the slammer, plus pay back all the money they received from FMFM, and definitely never be able to run for public office again.


Stuff like this makes me furious. They are supposed to be working for us, not themselves.


Maybe it's time to dig deeper into the whole government, and weed all these guys out, whether pubs or dems. Don't matter.