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You're still eating aren't you? Lets pick this back

Posted By: up in four if O steals the votes on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: You mean like it's been doing for the last - EIGHT years?

Or maybe you know enoug folks that will be getting the free handouts and can live off of them, like I see going on around my town already.


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But you're asking for it, aren't you?

How many other boards do you go on and play devil's advocate?  Do you go on the Christianity board and give the atheist's point of view?  Do you go in the smoker's sections and preach quitting?  Do you go to bars and brag that you're a teetotaler?  How popular do you expect to be when you go to where people are happily doing their thing and start messing with them?  You're mainly here to make trouble, IMHO.  So when some of it comes back on you, stop whining!


You're on the wrong board, aren't you?

LOL - geez, we're getting desperate, aren't we?

you're posts aren't positive either
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You're stuck on pub thing aren't you.... not
prefer to think for myself unlike you who obviously needs someone to do it for ya. I don't care for government, let alone more of it.
you're full of assumptions aren't you?
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Hot? Hardly. Those aren't pecs, people. They're
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You're just a tad bit ummm....CONCRETE, aren't you?!?
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Now McCain is 80?! You're a real fountain of information, aren't you? nm
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So does this mean you're going back to your own board now, as you were

Hey LR, guess you're back?nm
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We won. We're back to work now....(NM)
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The smart ones are giving the $$ back. They're
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GOURDPAINTER!!! I'm so glad you're back! I

agree with every single point made by Backwards Typist!!!


It's so good to see you return!    I hope you don't leave again. 


You're the one shooting back answers rapidfire.
That's an obvious defense tactic, when you try to turn it around on the other person despite doing the same thing yourself.
Since everyone is eating
and you can't find a place to park, can you explain this: 57% disapprove of Bush's handling of the economy? Oh, no, people aren't struggling.

The Associated Press/NEW YORK
By ANNE D'INNOCENZIO
AP Business Writer

Consumer confidence sinks in September

SEP. 27 4:27 P.M. ET Consumer confidence suffered its biggest drop in 15 years in September as Hurricane Katrina made Americans anxious about the rising costs of heating their homes and filling their gas tanks. The decline raised questions about consumer spending for the rest of this year, including the holiday shopping season.

Meanwhile, the government reported Tuesday that new home sales plunged in August by the largest amount in nine months, continuing a string of mixed signals about the health of the housing boom.

The Conference Board said its Consumer Confidence Index, compiled from a survey of U.S. households, dropped 18.9 points to 86.6 from a revised reading of 105.5 in August.

That marked the biggest slide since October 1990, when the index fell 23 points to 62.6 amid the onset of the recession, the buildup to the first Gulf war and a spike in gasoline prices. The September reading was also the lowest level since October 2003, when it registered 81.7.

Analysts had expected the September reading to be 98.

Wall Street took the news of both reports fairly well. The Dow Jones industrial average, up about 30 points before the index was released, fell into negative territory but was only marginally lower.

The Commerce Department said new home sales fell 9.9 percent last month to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 1.24 million units. Even with the slowdown, the median sales price rose 2.5 percent from July's level to $220,300. The bigger-than-projected drop in new home sales could signal that the nation's red-hot housing market is starting to slow down, but reports so far are mixed.

In Washington, Republicans were assessing the political impact of the numbers, particularly the drop in consumer confidence, saying it gives them more reason to worry about next year's elections.

These are serious numbers, said Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., a political operative-turned-congressman, referring to the consumer confidence figures. The question is whether this is a trend or a reaction to Katrina and Rita.

Cole said he suspects the public's mood will improve by this time next year when Republicans, who control Congress and the White House, will face the judgment of an uneasy electorate. But in the intervening months, he said, the political consequences of consumer anxiety are real serious.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., said Republicans are on the defensive. Any time our approval ratings go down we have problems. That's why we're working on Katrina. That's why we're working on Rita, he said.

The latest AP-Ipsos Poll, conducted Sept. 6-8, showed more Americans are uneasy about President Bush's handling of the economy. The poll found that 41 percent of respondents approved the president's handling of the economy, while 57 percent disapproved and 1 percent were not sure. That rating is the lowest since January 2002, when Ipsos began tracking Bush's approval ratings.

The drop in consumer confidence, which followed an unexpected gain in August, also raised concerns about shoppers' ability to spend in the critical fall and holiday seasons with gas prices expected to remain at $3 per gallon. That's due to tight supplies and the fact it may take weeks to restart refineries that closed due to Hurricane Rita.

Even before Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast Aug. 29, consumers were struggling to fit higher gasoline prices into their budgets, with that strain showing up in August's modest retail sales gains. Sales have been disappointing again this month, and analysts are concerned that consumers will further retrench when they start paying home heating bills.

Economists closely track consumer confidence because consumer spending accounts for two-thirds of all U.S. economic activity.

Today's numbers show that consumers are not very optimistic about the economy. As a result, we will see consumer spending reduced until we see some relief on energy prices, said Gary Thayer, chief economist at A.G. Edwards & Sons. He added, If we don't get some relief, it looks like it will be a very weak holiday season.

Thayer wasn't as concerned about home sales report, saying the sector was due for a cooling off. However, he doesn't think the housing market is headed for a bust.

Scott Hoyt, director of consumer economics, at Economy.com, was more upbeat about consumers, warning against reading too much into September's confidence figures. He noted that the key fundamentals for spending -- employment and income -- are holding up.

We need to be careful not to overstate the potential (of consumer confidence) on consumer spending, he said.

While there have been job losses along the Gulf Coast as a result of Katrina's fallout, economists predict overall healthy job gains of 169,000 when the Labor Department reports its figures Oct. 7.

Still, how fast consumer sentiment will rebound to the 100 reading seen over the past year remains to be seen.

Lynn Franco, director of The Conference Board's Consumer Research Center, noted that as rebuilding efforts in the aftermath of Katrina take hold and job growth gains momentum, confidence should return to more positive levels by year-end or early 2006.

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AP Political Writer Ron Fournier in Washington contributed to this report.

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On the Net:

http://www.conferenceboard.org

Commerce Department: http://www.doc.gov

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8CSQMEG0.htm?campaign_id=apn_home_down&chan=db
Nothing's eating at me
I'm just having fun watching the wacky reactions of an unhinged leftist.  It's kind of like watching a nature show...entertaining.
He IS EATING IT UP!
He loves making his speeches and being in the center of attention. He is a ME, ME, ME.
crow eating
that was me :-P lol

I hope you didn't take it offensively!
Crow eating s/m
Well, may as well start cooking up the crow.  When Obama appoints Hillary SOS I'll start eating.  HOWEVER, I still maintain that McCain would also have been  more of the same.  I fear we're under Bush/Clinton dictatorship and any "change" Obama makes is likely to be just to carry on their agenda which is to sell out American IMHO.  Maybe we'd all better develop a taste for real crow as that may be all that's left for us to eat.
Sorry you don't like eating your words
You said that God takes life because the the person made the wrong choices. Obviously, that bike you ride doesn't pedal as comfortably backwards, does it?
Well we were talking about eating and manners. sm

At least I was.


the snack you can't stop eating
slime
I hope that in 4 years you will be eating your words. nm
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Turkeys are for eating. Embryos and fetuses are

for loving, growing, giving birth to, nurturing, seeing smile for the first time, seeing walk for the first time, celebrating birthday parties with, chasing butterflies with, reading books to, hugging and kissing daily, taking to preschool, graduating kindergarten, running with friends on the playground, learning and developing opinions, going to camp with, fishing with, swimming with, sledding with, snowball fighting with, celebrating report cards with, taking to his/her first dance, first kiss, first date, surviving high school with, graduation, college/military/vocation, finding that special someone, landing a great job, getting married themselves, having more babies to continue that love......


It's called the next generation.


I suppose that you personally "know" he's eating it up. Get real!
Geez, I guess if negativity were wealth, you people must be stinkin' rich. LOL
So Christians aren't supposed to political? Or we aren't supposed to let our morality, faith

our conscience guide us politically?


I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make.  My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am.  I vote my conscience.  I want political leaders who reflect my morality.  I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me.  There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial.  There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial?  The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!


Number one, less peole SHOULD eat at McDonalds, some of the most unhealthy eating habits...sm
of this country, contributing to the obesity problem and the rising cost of healthcare. Come on, EVERYONE deserves an honest living wage where they can feed, clothe, and house their families, and that is just not happening, in the NorthEast I see it every day, most families are working two or three jobs, really good for the children and marriages, I respectfully think that is Bull (which it tastes like McDonald's and other fast food places put in their burgers). JMHO
So now with my taxed insuring kids -- I can supervise their lifestyle, eating habits, etc.

Insurance premiums for kids only are not that expensive, adults can go without if they want their children to have insurance.  Why should I pay for that.  So now, if my tax dollars are going for that, can I go up to an overweight kid and start monitoring their diet, can I watch what they eat, make sure that they get enough exercise, not be exposed to second hand smoke, etc.  Because if the government starts to provide everything for these kids, pretty soon they will be telling everyone what to feed, how to exercise, and everything else.  Why don't we just hand over our paychecks to the government and they can just take care of us. 


Who to pick?

I truly do not like either McCain or Obama.  I don't want to NOT vote.  I don't want to stay in the same course we are in.....which counts McCain out.  But I don't want to vote for change just for the sake of change.  If it were a change I could believe in and have faith....okay....but I don't and so that counts Obama out.  So now what?


VP pick
I don't know anything about her really, but I was just telling my husband last night that the only way McCain is going to be able to keep this race competitive at all would be to pick a pro-life woman. I didn't think he would really and my husband couldn't think of any (and he's a repub). As a Democrat I of course would have loved it if McCain would have picked Lieberman to demoralize the base or Huckabee to demoralize the independents, but ah well. It's a smart pick, I have to say.
I'd pick you to mod if I had the say
just to prove that it wouldn't matter who was moderating to me.  I'm confident in my party, how 'bout you?
Take your pick from above.........
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where is my pick my up?
I pay and pay and I never get any pick me up. Since you would much rather pay for it, go ahead, pay for it. Don't ask me to pay, though, because I would much rather not. I think I paid enuff all ready.
Don't we pick and choose

Don't we pick which Bible adages we follow?  The Bible also says turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor as thyself, do unto others....yet many Christians in various venues (including these boards) chide others for being advocates of peace, tolerance and love for all citizens of the world. 


The Bible has contradictions, it was written by men, after all and seems incredibly subject to interpretation.


He should pick Hillary
They are two peas in a pod. It was evidenced by his speech tonight he thinks she such a great person. I could just feel the love he has for her. Seriously...they voted alike on almost everything. I think his speach tonight was more of him trying to pull her votes away from Barack to vote for him.
that should be "who" is your pick... duh (nm)
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Well said. If we could only pick and choose who to help..
someone as yourself would be on top of my list!
You know, at this point he could pick

Jesus Christ to be in his cabinet and you people would find some something to b**ch about that, too.  Good grief!!


You can't pick and choose WHEN you
want majority rule to count. The people have spoken, they don't want it, try again next time.
He wasn't my first pick....(sm)

However, we are now at a point where time is the word of the day.  Here's my problem with the situation.  If he's so terrible, why are they voting him in?  That applies to dems and pubs, as both sides have expressed concern.  So, we know they're going to vote him in, so what's the point in all the delays?  I think at this point it's just political grandstanding by the pubs.  They did the same thing with Hillary.  The guy that held that one up actually voted for her, and said he was going to vote for her, but still delayed the process. 


For that matter, check out the attorney general position.  What's the problem with Holder?  On this one the pubs want to *question* him more about torture.  Exactly what do the pubs want to hear?  Maybe *torture is wrong, but we won't prosecute?*  More pollitical grandstanding.


May we pick which finger??
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I'll pick one...LOL...(sm)

You said:  "What about the voters of CA voting against gay marriage and now it's supposedly going to the Supreme Court? That's ridiculous. Since when is the Supreme Court allowed to overturn the voter's wishes? "


My question to you would be when was the last time it was okay for individual rights to be taken away with a popular vote?  Individual rights are guaranteed by the constitution (which discourages discrimination), not subject to the vote of the day.  That is why it needs to go to the supreme court.  Do you think it would be okay to all of the sudden pop up and have a vote in 2009 on whether or not women can vote when we already have that right?  On top of that, the state supreme court has now ruled that prop 8 stands, so at this point LGBTs cannot get married.  However, (and here comes the double standard), LGBTs who are already married can stay married?  What kind of reasoning is that?  As far as I'm concerned, this is a textbook case of discrimination.


a pick-me-up for Congress???
you're kidding right?? Pick them up from what? all the hard work they have been doing finding new ways to spend our money??
It isn't fair to pick out a few bad apples...
...and characterize a whole group based on them. And you're also right about Conservatives (loosely put) not always agreeing with one another, especially these days. Seems dissent among the ranks is breaking wide open.

But regardless of degree of badness of the apples in general - any group as a whole who supports Bush remains suspect as a whole because there is simply no reason left for an intelligent person to do so. Most who still do, do so because they aren't aware of the facts and aren't very good judges of character. Just my opinion, but I stand by it, and see more proof of it every day.
No, but I do hear him saying "don't pick
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Okay Republicans, you is YOUR pick for McCain VP?
I'm not looking to start either a we-love-McCain or we-hate-McCain thread (same for Obama), just curious to hear from the Republicans here who they would like to see McCain pick.  It sounds like he may announce Friday.
Dems are also ecstatic over this pick.
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No. It was sexist of him to pick a token fm
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anyone else insulted over the Palin pick?
As an American woman I am insulted over the cynical pick of Sarah Palin as the Republican VP. She has a vaginia and everything I believe is supposed to suddenly escape my female pee sized brain?! I am suppose to want to vote Republican because they pick a woman? This proves the Republicans are insane.



Sarah Palin is against abortion and does not believe in birth control.


Sarah does not believe in evolution and thinks all schools should teach creationism.


She doesn't have an opinion on the Iraq war.


She is a pro gun person.


She doesn't believe in global warming.


She oppose gay marriage.


She is against putting polar bears on the endangered species list.


She is an advocate strongly for drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.


Her husband works for BP (British Petroleum) and she pushed for another pipeline to be built in Alaska.


At the age of 45, since she does not believe in birth control, had another baby and he has down syndrome. This seems to me to be pretty poor judgement on her part.


She says she has family values, she is a Governor and her husband works on the North Shore full time, who raises the Palin kids?
Palin has her sisters ex husband fired from the Alaska State Patrol.

Can anyone say abuse of power?
Palin was a Mayor of a 9,000 person town and has been Governor for only 20 months.


She voted for pat Buchanan over George Bush in 2000. If you think Bush is bad Buchanan is even worse.


She stated on 7/30/2008 she does not know what the VP does every day.


Gos is named her kids Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.


The major newspapers in Alaska do not think she should be the VP pick.


Her mother-in-law said she is voting for Obama.



So America, is this this a responsible pick from a 72 year old man who has had repeated bouts of cancer? Do you want Palin running our country? Does being a lucky beauty queen now give people the credentials to be the VP?
Look....if liberals can pick and choose...
statements of what someone said once and once they say now...so can conservatives. You can't have it both ways.