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You're stuck on pub thing aren't you.... not

Posted By: one of them myself.......I prefer on 2008-10-17
In Reply to: Why should O be desperate? Pubs have been spoiling for a fight - and now they're gonna get one...sm

prefer to think for myself unlike you who obviously needs someone to do it for ya. I don't care for government, let alone more of it.


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You're stuck on names instead of facts
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But you're asking for it, aren't you?

How many other boards do you go on and play devil's advocate?  Do you go on the Christianity board and give the atheist's point of view?  Do you go in the smoker's sections and preach quitting?  Do you go to bars and brag that you're a teetotaler?  How popular do you expect to be when you go to where people are happily doing their thing and start messing with them?  You're mainly here to make trouble, IMHO.  So when some of it comes back on you, stop whining!


You're on the wrong board, aren't you?

LOL - geez, we're getting desperate, aren't we?

you're posts aren't positive either
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you're full of assumptions aren't you?
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Hot? Hardly. Those aren't pecs, people. They're
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You're just a tad bit ummm....CONCRETE, aren't you?!?
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Now McCain is 80?! You're a real fountain of information, aren't you? nm
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You're still eating aren't you? Lets pick this back
Or maybe you know enoug folks that will be getting the free handouts and can live off of them, like I see going on around my town already.
You're right about one thing

People had better smarten up but I doubt that's likely to happen.


So we don't have socialism now.  What exactly do we have?  Our government (Democrats AND Republicans) support more illegal immigration and rewarding the criminal illegals with citizenship, never mind what the people want.  Didn't they both support the huge bail-out?  BOTH parties.  How many of the people supported that?  What good is it going to do?  None.  Now aren't they saying that we'll have to wait and see if it works and more bail-outs may be necessary. 


So will someone tell me just exactly what kind of government it is we have now?  The Republicans had rule for the past few years.  Very recently both dubya and McCain...didn't they say the "economy was fundamentally sound?"  LIES???  Youbetcha.


How any sheep can follow either of these parties to the slaughter is far beyond me.  And sheep is what most Americans are.   I'm tempted to say that those who enthusiastically support EITHER candidate deserve what they get. The problem is, I, myself, don't particularly want to go along for the ride.


You're right about one thing...(sm)
there will be 2 parties, but the current religious right wingnuts won't be one of them.  There were only 3 moderate pubs left in the senate.  With Specter moving to the dem side, there are only 2, and they vote more like independents.  What does that leave the GOP with?  The religious rightwing nutjobs...and yes, they (you) are losing ground on a daily basis. 
Well, you're right about one thing....(sm)

He doesn't call himself a republican.  He calls himself a "conservative traditionalist."  What does that mean?


Definition: 


Traditionalist conservatism, also known as "traditionalism," is a political philosophy that developed in the United States. It tends to emphasize cultural renewal and is characterized by an adherence to the principles of prescription (law), custom (law), social order, hierarchy, faith, the natural family, ordered liberty, and tradition. It may be said to have affinities with reactionary thought, and some adherents of this movement perhaps embrace that label, defying the stigma that has attached to it in Western culture since the Enlightenment.


Traditionalist conservatism emerged after World War II in the writings of a group of university professors (labeled the "New Conservatives" by the popular press of the time) who rejected the notions of individualism, liberalism, modernity, and social progress[1] and revived interest in what T. S. Eliot referred to as "the permanent things" (those perennial institutions that ground society: the church, the family, the state, community life, etc.).


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In other words, far right republican.  And no, he doesn't defend "anybody."  He is notorious for promoting the far right's agenda and has been for years.  Believe me, he's not laying off of Sotomayor because he doesn't want to discriminate.  He's laying off of her because he knows it will hurt his party.


You're right - the whole SP thing is the 'pubicans
tactics for distracting the public so that they won't notice that by voting for Sarah (and oh, yes.... JM goes along with the package as a 'token' presidential figure), they'll be voting themselves another 4 years of economic misery, and world instability. If that happens, then the US deserves whatever nastiness is waiting around the next corner.
For one thing, that you're not informed

of the truth (which I posted below) and are spreading the "mandatory" myth, which inflames and upsets people.


Obama's programs are inclusive and designed for those who choose to participate for the good of the country, to bring us closer together.  If you want no part of that, then, that's your choice, and though I personally think it's sad, it's probably for the best.  Either way, it's your CHOICE and is NOT MANDATORY.


The thing is you're not giving him
I agree, we were brutally raped by the last adminstration and I am also wary, but for crying out loud, you are making these statements after less than a week in office. You can't justify that by saying you're "keeping an eye" on the government? If that statement is true, then you have to give the man a REASONABLE amount of time to implement his agenda. The engine hasn't even cooled down on the moving trucks yet. Don't be unrealistic, you lose credibility that way.
You're right about one thing, Patty.
Your mental disease is downright UGLY!!
Yes, you're right. It's the kindest thing to do.
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"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.

"We" did not do the righ thing...


Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....


We may never recover from President Obama, at least not in my lifetime.


I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren.


Libs refuse to call it socialism.


But that's what we're putting into office.


Bush opened the door a crack.



Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.



Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.
"we" did the right thing....no, you're wrong there.....a lot of
people, mostly young, were bamboozled.

"We" did not do the righ thing...


Unless you like total government control, and social medicine, and social economics.....etc......


We may never recover from President Obama and his "change", at least not in my lifetime.


I did not vote for him. I wish him well, but his choices as he is leading up to his inauguration do not bode well for our country on a whole, especially our children and grandchildren, who will be left to foot the bill, and have less rights than we do now.


Libs refuse to call it socialism.


But that's what we're putting into office.


Bush opened the door a crack.



Obama intends to play on our fears and take full advantage of them.


The barn door is wide open, and the winner take all (Obama). "Never let a good crisis go to waste" as his team has recently stated.


He has, and will, take full advantage of our fears, as even he, Obama, was the fear monger today.



Maybe when all your rights are gone, when govt has total control over your healthcare, your mortgage, your loans, your 401K, (and other things I can't even imagine as of yet unveiled b....maybe then, you will understand what is happening right under your nose, and finally see what you have lost.
ROFL! I guess the same thing you're doing.
  Have you noticed that your neck hurts from shaking your head a lot??? 
They're always putting out this sort of thing, actually.
...just round-file it.
I think you are saying the same thing. No need to argue when you're making the same point...nm
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LOL, stuck to or stuck WITH??


Did you even read what you stuck out
You put the article out there, it was read and I simply pointed out the person writing it is very biased. He/she obviously does have a bone to pick with whites, but as usual, when someone refuses to actually read what was written, I said nothing about having a problem with whites being a minority. You seem to be the only one obsessed with that view. Having Hispanic presence in this country does not "disturb" me, even though you seem to, as you didn't say it didn't bother you; you said it didn't "particularly" disturb you, meaning it obviously does in some way. Anyhow, you seem to be caught up in thinking illegals mean only Hispanics. Illegals are coming over from a lot of places, many many are criminals. Do you think 8000 (thousand) violent gangs in LA alone from foreign illegals is a good thing? Eight THOUSAND in one city alone multiplied by thousands more in the border states spells BIG trouble. You need to get off the "white" bandwagon and stand up for the sovereignty of your country. I'm assuming you are legal.
Regardless, it's still there, stuck on our shoes...

Aah, don't get stuck on color here.... Terrorists
they have been home grown right here in this country.....Ayers, Dohrn, just to name a couple. You know, Obama's pals that his supporters keep hearing the news media they get their info from tell everyone how he hasn't had any dealings with these two or the corrupt white multi-millionnaire realtor he has many associations with AND bought his 1.6 million dollar home from at a STEAL!

His name is Muslim. You want to pretend it's not? Now, that alone is not the issue...his Islamic relationship with terrorists in terrorist countries is the problem, of which you want to ignore. His Islamic teachings is also an issue, of which you also choose to ignore. His own family members say he is Muslim through and through. They say he is NOT a Christian, but of course, you know more than they I'm sure.


Is Cheney your president? Why are you stuck
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Doesn't matter.....she stuck her nose out first
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Grow your own. It's stuck in your little poor me world...nm

And again, they fall silent.....stuck her foot in
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If John McCain had stuck to his guns and been...sm
able to run as himself instead of being remolded by the right wing of his party, he probably would have sailed over the finish line. He killed any chance of winning the election when he gave control away.
They'd never make fun of killing W....cuz then we would be stuck with CHENEY!!!!!

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So Christians aren't supposed to political? Or we aren't supposed to let our morality, faith

our conscience guide us politically?


I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make.  My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am.  I vote my conscience.  I want political leaders who reflect my morality.  I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me.  There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial.  There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial?  The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!


Republicans are Stuck to Bush - See RNC Memo Link

Republicans are Stuck to Bush

In a memo to RNC chairman Ken Mehlman, GOP pollster Jan van Lohuizen argues that it's dangerous for Republican congressional candidates to distance themselves from President Bush.

President Bush drives our image and will do so until we have real national front-runners for the '08 nomination. Attacking the President is counter productive for all Republicans, not just the candidates launching the attacks. If he drops, we all drop.
Good grief! Taxpayers get stuck with the bill...

and Franklin Raines gets a over a million per year in "retirement..."


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/12/28/national/main663502.shtml


 


It's like trying to discuss Dante's Inferno with someone stuck in My Little Red Reader. nm
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Not to mention her ritzy hotel bills she stuck the state with.nm

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You have to check and double check every single thing they say. They're not capable of telling t
truth about anything.  It's getting very boring and tedious to read their crap.  Why won't they stay on their own board like they tell us to do?
But valuing over the price of a dollar is a right thing wing thing, so you are on the wrong board. n
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You're entitled to your opinion. I guess it depends on what side of the spectrum you're on.nm
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We're not defending Bush we're pointing out the obvious
All you see in your view is Bush, Bush, Bush. Nobody else exists. You have yet to answer any of the questions I posed yesterday. We're not the one obsessing about Bush. I'm sure you'll counter that with I don't owe you any answers! It's really telling that for five or six days this board was mute about the Israel/Lebanon situation. You were too busy posting trash news about Bush like nothing was even happening, but I know that the left has wait for its talking points. You all cannot formulate opinions on your own. You have boilerplates ready to go though. *This is Bush's fault because _____________ but you have to wait on Howard Dean, Bill Clinton, etc. etc. to fill in the blanks for you. It's not just a phenomenon here but with all the left. You can count on at least two days of silence when something unforseen breaks out in the world, because they have to retreat to their bunkers to get their talking points straight, but it will always start with *This is Bush's fault because....
Hey, if they're smoking cigs, they're paying for SCHIP.
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They're too lazy to show patriotism......they're waiting
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Probably because there aren't

nearly as many of them.  And I noticed the tally keeper yesterday was only tallying those posts she wanted to count.  Sound like politics?


As for rabid, thanks for the enlightenment but the definition I prefer is 1 a: extremely violent : furious b: going to extreme lengths in expressing or pursuing a feeling, interest, or opinion <rabid editorials> <a rabid supporter>


CERTAINLY NOT:


2: affected with rabies


Well, though, I would hope none of the "rabid" Republicans (or Democrats) are "affected with rabies" but hey, maybe that's something to ponder.  After all, rabies does affect the brain. LOL


aren't

YOU special . . .


 


They aren't done yet. This is just day 1 of

cutting the pork. Let's wait and see what they will do by Friday.


My calculator doesn't go that high for adding up the pork they want to cut, but I think it's more than 2%.


I will take a wait-and-see attitude with my finger on the "favorites" key to renounce them if they don't cut all the pork out.


no, they aren't.
I hate this discussion. Do you actually know any gay people? I doubt it or you would not think that way. Most people, regardless of their sexual orientation, are just trying to go about their business and live their own lives. There are always people making a big issue of something or another, whether gay or straight, and the gay population does not do so anymore than any other group. As is always the case, only those making an issue get the attention thus painting a whole population. If everyone would just keep their nose out of everyone else's business we would all be better off. Truly, another person's lifestyle is no one else's business unless it infringes on the rights of others.
Since we obviously aren't going to be able to have..(sm)

any meaningful conversation today, how about this?  Keep in mind he was one of the main ones going after Clinton for having an affair.  Hmmmm....


Top Republican resigns leadership post over affair


WASHINGTON (AFP) — Republican US Senator John Ensign has resigned his Senate leadership post one day after admitting to an extra-marital affair, the chamber's top Republican said in a statement Wednesday.


"He's accepted responsibility for his actions and apologized to his family and constituents. He offered, and I accepted, his resignation as chairman of the Policy Committee," said Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.


The post is the fourth-ranking leadership position among Senate Republicans.


Ensign, a rising star of the Republican Party regarded as a possible contender in the 2012 presidential election, admitted to the affair at a news conference Tuesday in his home state of Nevada.


Ensign, 51, a staunch conservative with a record of strong family-values stances, vowed to remain in office after describing the affair as "absolutely the worst thing I've ever done in my life." 


 


So you're not racist but you're most definitely SEXIST and AGEIST!!!
"Someone more in our age group..."

"She should be taking care of her family."

Your true colors are showing, and they're truly ugly.
Just because they're LOSING doesn't mean they're VICTIMS.
What is it with people these days? You think that just because Hamas is getting its fanny handed to it that that magically makes them victims, and we should all weep and throw cash at them?

From the dawn of time, lesser civilizations have fallen to stronger ones.

It's why the human species survived and the neanderthals didn't.

It's why Rome conquered the Celts.

It's why the Barbarians conquered the Western Roman Empire.

It's why the British conquered the American Indians.

It's why the Spanish conquered the Aztecs.

It's why the Muslims conquered Israel the first time. But, since their societal progres seems to have permanently parked in the Stone Age, now Israel is conquering them right back.

Deal with it.