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Just days after the 9/11 attacks, Vice President Cheney, on “Meet The Press,” said the response should be aimed at Osama bin Laden's al-Qaeda terror organization not Saddam Hussein's Iraq. When asked if any evidence connected the Iraqis to the operation, Cheney said, no. But during that same time period, according to Bob Woodward's book, Bush At War, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was pushing for military strikes on Iraq and during cabinet meetings Cheney, expressed deep concern about Saddam and wouldn't rule out going after Iraq at some point. That point started to come 11 months later, just before the first anniversary of 9/11. The president and vice president had decided to redirect their war on terror to Baghdad. So, with the help of the newly-formed White House Iraq group, which consisted of top officials and strategists, the selling of a war on Iraq began and the administration's rhetoric about Saddam changed. On September 8, 2002, not only did White House hawks tell The New York Times for a front page exclusive that Saddam was building a nuclear weapon, five administration officials also went on the Sunday television shows that day to repeat the charge. He is, in fact actively and aggressively seeking to acquire nuclear weapons, Cheney told Tim Russert on “Meet The Press. But the White House started claiming that Iraq and the group responsible for 9/11 were one in the same. The war on terror, you can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror, said Bush on September 25, 2002. We've learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases, said Bush a few days later on October 7. He's a threat because he is dealing with Al-Qaeda. In pushing the Saddam-Iraq-9/11 connection, both the president and the vice president made two crucial claims. First, they alleged there had been a 1994 meeting in the Sudan between Osama bin Laden and an Iraqi intelligence official. After the Iraq war began, however, the 9/11 Commission was formed and reported that while Osama bin Laden may have requested Iraqi help, Iraq apparently never responded. The other crucial pre-war White House claim was that 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta met with a senior Iraqi intelligence official in the Czech republic in April 2001. Cheney stated, It's been pretty well confirmed that he did go to Prague and he did meet with a Senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service. Confirmed or unconfirmed by Vice President Cheney the 9/11 Commission said, We do not believe such a meeting occurred. Why? Because cell phone records from the time show Atta in the United States. None the less, the White House strategy worked. In March of 2003, one poll found 45 percent of Americans believed Saddam Hussein was personally involved in 9/11. On the eve of the Iraq war, the White House sent a letter to Congress telling lawmakers that force was authorized against those who, aided the 9/11 attacks. Yet the Bush administration continues to say it never claimed Iraq was linked to 9/11. I think I made it very clear that we have never made that claim, White House Press Secretary McClellan repeated on Sept. 17, 2003. The brutal irony is that while implications, innuendo, or false claims if you will about a 9/11 connection helped take us into Iraq. The Iraqi war itself has created a real al-Qaeda/Iraq link that may keep us from getting out. You're a liar. GT didn't curse. You're a filthy liar, but you are a gift from God. God sent you here to as a constant reminder of the kind of person I DON'T want to be and if I ever have a bad day when I feel temporarily stupid, all I have to do is read your posts, and I realize there are those out there who are much worse off than I am and for them it's not temporary. Yes, liar. You post 20 to my 1. Liar. nm 
Is there room for one more............sm I echo all the sentiments expressed here. I believe that God will put the man in this office that needs to be there. I have been praying for this election for some time and that God's will be done. Regardless whether "my man" wins or not, I pray God's guidance for the man that is in office because I believe he will have a lot of work to do. For the man who does not get in office, he will have a lot of work to do still in the Senate and can be a very effective leader from there. I'd like to see Ann escorted into a room .... ...of pie-bearing New York City first responders and let her explain herself to them. You got that right. Just imaging how much room nm BDayes gets at least as much room nm Never has been. Trying to make room su you should go to the emergency room x So I should stick myself in a room and never go anywhere because it's everyone's right to display sex drugs and violence everywhere? Where is my right to live in a society that doesn't bombard us day and night with those lifestyles? We do not have enough room for our own prisoners. x That's the elephant in the room... that very few posters on this forum are willing to acknowledge. They would much rather pay to kill people overseas than give a penny to the poor in this country. Pretty sickening, if you ask me! But he has so much ''wiggle room'' explaining the VAT. He can claim that he is not charging the people a new tax. He is charging the growers, manufacturers, haulers and merchants. (As if magically this is not a cost of doing business to be borne by the consumer.) I always have to laugh when people yell, ''raise taxes corporations.'' Who do they think ultimately pays that tax? It is the end user of any product. Raise corporate taxes and anyone who purchases goods or services from that company pays a higher price for it. So it is a tax on all citizens/consumers, just indirect and invisible. You and JTBB might want to get a room. nm Call me what you want, just don't call me late for dinner. LOL.... GP, I like your sense of humor. You call it hysteria, some call it concern for the nm My husband said....Put all the people in a room....sm that have known Obama for years and years and can vouch for his character and things he has truly done and been influenced by....put them in a room, these people from the last 25 years ago, from his college days until he ran for public office. Where are these people? Who are they? Where are they hiding? It just might be an empty room. That's another scary thing to me. You might have either have Rev. Wright, Ayers, and a bunch of socialists.....but he dumped them under the bus and says they never influenced him...so really...empty room? Where are they? Obama doesn't want us to know who they are maybe? So....No one in the room at all. I had to leave the room when NP and BF were speaking I absolutely got sick! Wow! There are people protesting outside the room. People were just yelling something about the bailout and somebody yelled "Put the money in the food bank so people can eat."!!! Sure, but I'd rather be in a small room with a caterpillar! nm Get a room? Something on my nose? Simply because I was polite to someone, chose to give one of the "nice" ones the benefit of the doubt while finding posts like yours uninformative, childish and a pure waste of keystrokes? I agree, given the never-ending bitterness and hatefulness you have, it will all come back to bite you in the butt some day. One usually gets back what they give. No thanks!. Was just checking on the kids room. nm How about A ROOM for JTBB & Marman! sm Apparently these 2 have more time than anyone else. The few times I even refresh the MQ section, they seem to have a leg up on the whole show. It's all the time! Honestly, it's just tiresome!
Sho you right. Not enough room in society for evil perverts. Keep it coming, you make plenty sense. I enjoy your posts so much :):) Not thinking logically....you have room to talk.... you obviously don't know squat about how the government is run, but I am sure some of your fellow Democrats (try Harry Reid) could explain to you how there is a budget, and there are certain monies that go into each budget and they don't cross over...although I have to agree in spirit, the way the Democrats have raped Social Security and pulled money from it to put into other entitlement programs that fell short...yeah, I am sure the Democrats could get the money from somewhere. And if you do not see the difference in funding our military and funding social programs...talk about a person without sound judgment. I don't know why when you Democrats (or some of you) get backed into a corner you want to start personally attacking people, telling them they are not thinking logically and without sound judgment and run the the favorite Dem backup, the war, the war, the war. As to the cigarette tax..I am not a smoker, never have been, but it seems erally arrogant to me to single out a certain portion of society to almost double a tax on to pay for this. In what alternate reality is that FAIR?? Many of them are ones who would be users of the SCHIP program. If you are asking THEM to fund their own "free" insurance, should you not be willing to do the same? You sign up to have an extra 3% taken off the top of your gross income to be dedicated to SCHIP. You are behind it 100%. Everyone who signs up to use it signs up to have an additional 3% of their income off the top given to SCHIP. All Democrats who want to expand the program, pledge 3% off the top of your gross income from now until you die. You fund it. Works for me. You won't hear me complain. Sam leaves us no room for real issues. It has been nothing but a sam Blitzkrieg on the political board these past few weeks. Sam posts messages with the express intent of wreaking havoc and instigating arguments, as evidenced by her comments such as, "Let the games begin." If sam would be so kind as to step away, we might be able to discuss the issues that are important to all of us in an intelligent and adult manner. I for one will no longer feed the sam troll by by acknowledging any post by her. Someone who understands that chat room bashing ? Guess he didn't have room for his beloved pie. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0ftD7Y7dCn1mI/340x.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.daylife.com/photo/0ftD7Y7dCn1mI&usg=__pkklKSLi37kzI-vyh3oHYNXbrzk=&h=425&w=340&sz=33&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=tiw8xBS9CFOXFM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=101&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dobama%2Blooks%2Bpie%2Bphoto%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den LOVE this shot of him. A man, alone with his pie. Obama has no room to talk about earmarks....and neither he nor Biden... have much room to talk about flip flopping. Ahem. Enter the elephant in the room not beind discussed Under the Obama administration, reform in trade agreements, incentives to keep jobs stateside and targets plans to make it easier to unionize will be changing that picture. Pubs have lost this grip, no matter how loud they protest, how many GOP alert memos they send or how hard they pretend otherwise. Look for the unions to make a long overdue comeback. Then we shall see just how outdated they are. Bush said Obama asked to see the room where his girls would sleep - Bush said it was obvious that Obama was going to be a family man even in office. You are a liar. SM I'm glad to say it and it is true. As far as Iraq, of course, you twisted that all out of context. Lurker asked if I would go to Iraq to help rebuild and I said yes, if I could I would, but please don't tell the truth and continue to twist because you are twisted. Now, that felt good to FINALLY call you a liar. You have used that word with every conservative poster and we are all pretty darn sick of it. 
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Liar? A conservative calling someone a liar? Pot-kettle-black Once a liar, always a liar!!!! . Liar, liar Politicians lie. Is everyone just figuring that out? Why get into an argument over who's lying. Just tell me what you're going to do for me, how I'm supposed to pay my mortgage when you keep sending my job overseas, how I'm supposed to send my kids to college when you keep sending my job overseas, how I'm supposed to pay these ridiculous prices for gas when you keep sending my job overseas. The first guy that can do that without mincing words and blaming everything on the other gets my vote. I don't care what color you are, whether you screwed around on your wife, who you have in your back pocket, whether your running mate is an old fart or a woman. GW is a liar......... So I guess that makes him a fake, too. WMDs, he really gave a rat's about Katrina, billions of dollars just "vanished." Harriet Myers for supreme court??? LOLOLOLOLOL - at least Obama isn't a freaking moron! What a liar! President Obama gave a speech in Illinois saying that if we pass this stimulus bill that the CEO of Caterpillar promised to hire back employees. After Obama's speech, the CEO of Caterpillar got up and said that he just wanted to clarify that whether or not the stimulus package passes, they will continue to lay off people for some time and this hire back will be further in the future and I'm sure that means if this package actually works.....which it won't. I'm sorry people but this stimulus will not work. Obama promised to look out for the middle class and the low class. So far, he is doing nothing but helping the low class and he is going to crush us middle class folk. The rich will survive but it will be the middle class that suffers.....once again. hotel room, like the guy said, the Alaska plane is not a famil station wagon. Sounds like fat cat to no message If a certain poster is a liar... (or if anyone is, from the president right on down)...and of course this is fully documented and there is no question about it...and then they ask us to believe a claim of high personal integrity...well, er, that's asking a little too much. One has to wonder, do they believe their own delusions? Do they really think the house of cards is never going to crash down? Or do they just want us to think it? Personally I prefer a far less complicated arrangement. You intentionally lie, you are bad and no one should respect you anymore until you learn how to tell the truth. I don't appreciate you calling me a liar and neocons liars in general (BTW, I'm not a neocon), and I refuse to discuss the gross inaccuracies in the article above with a person who thinks we're all liars. It's blatant waste of time. Again with the liar. Sheesh is right. NM 
Would a liar know the truth if they saw it? sm Nahhhhhhhh....I don't think so. Besides, you continue to skew things. Some of us know that. You aren't fooling anyone. No, my dear, YOU are the liar. Scarborough's record is public and well known. So is the objectivity and blatant refusal to ever tell the truth of Bush and his worshippers. Bush isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. I can see why you love him. Why don't you go back to the CON board? You're showing your colors more and more with each post, and they ain't a pretty sight. Wow, did I say Liar. I really meant sm deluded liar. Yes, that's much better.
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