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You have real issues and I've never killed an abortion doctor

Posted By: Rep on 2005-10-06
In Reply to: LOL. *Liberal Religion* = ANY religion that isn't YOURS. - JR

nor have I condoned the very few that have. We are not all murderers. I'm sorry that something has has happened in your life to make you so against God, but demonizing us will not make your issues go away. We are not trying to be superior, but if you want religion to stay out of schools then all religion and theories (which liberalism is full of) needs to stay out too. If you want it vanilla and equal well then it works both ways.


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The guy who killed the doctor isn't an extremist.
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How could there be doctor/patient communication issues during a preventative healthcare visit if -
the patient isn't participating in preventative healthcare?  The reason I offered is not something I came up with myself.
And the part that would apply to issues other than abortion? (sm)
You might as well just go ahead and do away with the hippocratic oath.
real issues

such as celebrity, Ayers, etc.??


 


you have real issues
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Real issues
Read or heard on the news yesterday that in 2009 it will be the big investors in the commercial real estate market who will be facing disaster.  Will they be the next to get a bail-out?  I'd bet they will be trying.  I hope Obama and the Congress will put a big fat NO to any more bail-outs.
Must be real low on issues at the moment, huh....nm
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Don't you even understand the real issues here?
All this hooplah on either side means nothing to me. I look for the facts of each candidate, which is what you should be doing instead of grasping at reports such as these.

Do you believe you won't be taxed? Sure you do because for reasons that escape me, you refuse to look at his voting record on taxes. Just this past March, in the middle of the night, he tried to pass a bill to tax YOU, the middle class, along with Hillary Clinton. I don't call the rich those making 31K - 63K a year, so you keep believing in a lie if you want until your paycheck is gone.

It's in black and white or are you not aware how to actually find facts for yourself.
Sam leaves us no room for real issues.
It has been nothing but a sam Blitzkrieg on the political board these past few weeks. Sam posts messages with the express intent of wreaking havoc and instigating arguments, as evidenced by her comments such as, "Let the games begin." If sam would be so kind as to step away, we might be able to discuss the issues that are important to all of us in an intelligent and adult manner. I for one will no longer feed the sam troll by by acknowledging any post by her.
Yeah...almost asridiculous as yours, I admit...so shall we cease and desist and stick to real issues
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My belief? "late-term abortion" or partial-birth abortion" = infanticide, it is sickening
So in these cases I do think, as in most things, there is no ABSOLUTE, but a judicious guideline for this should be investigated and established by the medical community, as far as survival/outcome, but then we must be willing to prosecute mothers and doctors who go outside the guidelines...with established jail terms....and more money to house these "criminals" for years. Why not let God by the ultimate judge, He has the wisdom and the power, and eternity without God is worse than anything we as humans can mandate, don't you think?
meant is against abortion...didn't mean supports abortion (NM)

Issues people, issues. I need issues

I'm not seeing any discussion about issues.  Can we stick to the issues.  Jeeze - I want to hear good and bad about both candidates but with facts to back whatever is being said.


P-L-E-A-S-E.....I want issues.  How can I make any kind of determinatons about who I'm going to vote for if I don't hear about the issues.  Reading some of this I'm thinking I'd get more truth if I read the National Enquirer.


Considering he is a doctor,,,,,,
he probably has a different slant on things. You're one of those glass half empty people, aren't ya?
Doctor
Yes, you are indeed truly blessed.  That man is a true Physician!!.
No, goofy. Republicans are REAL people, real
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If the real folks, with real hope, faith, and
and for our country's future who participate here on this forum were just a tad as healthy, wealthy and wise as this poster considers herself, we probably wouldn't be sitting in front of these silly computers trying to make a living!! Can't figure why she is here other than tell us how healthy, wealthy and wise she is and we are not!
I'm just glad she's not a doctor, and I don't
no/msg
so you think the doctor is going to let me walk out and not pay?
Even if I cannot go in the room with my daughter, they are still going to expect me to pay for the visit!
The Doctor Will See You—In Three Months


The health-care reform debate is in full roar with the arrival of Michael Moore's documentary Sicko, which compares the U.S. system unfavorably with single-payer systems around the world. Critics of the film are quick to trot out a common defense of the American way: For all its problems, they say, U.S. patients at least don't have to endure the endless waits for medical care endemic to government-run systems. The lobbying group America's Health Insurance Plans spells it out in a rebuttal to Sicko: "The American people do not support a government takeover of the entire health-care system because they know that means long waits for rationed care."


In reality, both data and anecdotes show that the American people are already waiting as long or longer than patients living with universal health-care systems. Take Susan M., a 54-year-old human resources executive in New York City. She faithfully makes an appointment for a mammogram every April, knowing the wait will be at least six weeks. She went in for her routine screening at the end of May, then had another because the first wasn't clear. That second X-ray showed an abnormality, and the doctor wanted to perform a needle biopsy, an outpatient procedure. His first available date: mid-August. "I completely freaked out," Susan says. "I couldn't imagine spending the summer with this hanging over my head." After many calls to five different facilities, she found a clinic that agreed to read her existing mammograms on June 25 and promised to schedule a follow-up MRI and biopsy if needed within 10 days. A full month had passed since the first suspicious X-rays. Ultimately, she was told the abnormality was nothing to worry about, but she should have another mammogram in six months. Taking no chances, she made an appointment on the spot. "The system is clearly broken," she laments.

It's not just broken for breast exams. If you find a suspicious-looking mole and want to see a dermatologist, you can expect an average wait of 38 days in the U.S., and up to 73 days if you live in Boston, according to researchers at the University of California at San Francisco who studied the matter. Got a knee injury? A 2004 survey by medical recruitment firm Merritt, Hawkins & Associates found the average time needed to see an orthopedic surgeon ranges from 8 days in Atlanta to 43 days in Los Angeles. Nationwide, the average is 17 days. "Waiting is definitely a problem in the U.S., especially for basic care," says Karen Davis, president of the nonprofit Commonwealth Fund, which studies health-care policy.

All this time spent "queuing," as other nations call it, stems from too much demand and too little supply. Only one-third of U.S. doctors are general practitioners, compared with half in most European countries. On top of that, only 40% of U.S. doctors have arrangements for after-hours care, vs. 75% in the rest of the industrialized world. Consequently, some 26% of U.S. adults in one survey went to an emergency room in the past two years because they couldn't get in to see their regular doctor, a significantly higher rate than in other countries.

There is no systemized collection of data on wait times in the U.S. That makes it difficult to draw comparisons with countries that have national health systems, where wait times are not only tracked but made public. However, a 2005 survey by the Commonwealth Fund of sick adults in six nations found that only 47% of U.S. patients could get a same- or next-day appointment for a medical problem, worse than every other country except Canada.

The Commonwealth survey did find that U.S. patients had the second-shortest wait times if they wished to see a specialist or have nonemergency surgery, such as a hip replacement or cataract operation (Germany, which has national health care, came in first on both measures). But Gerard F. Anderson, a health policy expert at Johns Hopkins University, says doctors in countries where there are lengthy queues for elective surgeries put at-risk patients on the list long before their need is critical. "Their wait might be uncomfortable, but it makes very little clinical difference," he says.

The Commonwealth study did find one area where the U.S. was first by a wide margin: 51% of sick Americans surveyed did not visit a doctor, get a needed test, or fill a prescription within the past two years because of cost. No other country came close.

Few solutions have been proposed for lengthy waits in the U.S., in part, say policy experts, because the problem is rarely acknowledged. But the market is beginning to address the issue with the rise of walk-in medical clinics. Hundreds have sprung up in CVS, Wal-Mart (WMT ), Pathmark, (PTMK ) and other stores—so many that the American Medical Assn. just adopted a resolution urging state and federal agencies to investigate such clinics as a conflict of interest if housed in stores with pharmacies. These retail clinics promise rapid care for minor medical problems, usually getting patients in and out in 30 minutes. The slogan for CVS's Minute Clinics says it all: "You're sick. We're quick."



Keep this up and your doctor appointments will increase - sm

There are so many ways to cut food costs and eat healthy.


Cook, repeat cook oatmeal for breakfast. Eggs anyway


One pound of ground turkey, chopped onion sauteed, mix with 1-2 cans of diced tomatoes, 1-2 cans of beans (pinto, black, etc.) seasonings like cumin, chili, etc. serve over brown rice that you cook - or over a small pasta, or in a tortlla.


Soup - homemade - diced tomatoes, onion, celery, carrots, any type of beans, frozen cut okra, etc. add water and seasonings - add Butterball smoked turkey sausage cut into half slices


I make a pot of soup every week and eat until gone, then a new one.


I also cook my beans from dry - very inexpensive and very nutritious


Hope you think this is helpful for that is what I want to be. Your present eating program is soooo unhealthy. I would be glad to share any of my other low-cost recpies with you.


Best wishes.


 


 


 


Kissinerger Spin Doctor?
Palin, Kissinger Split on Talks with Ahmadinejad
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ABC News' Teddy Davis, Arnab Datta, and Rigel Anderson Report: During an interview with CBS News' Katie Couric which aired Thursday evening, Sarah Palin called Barack Obama "beyond naïve" for wanting to talk "without preconditions" to rogue leaders.

"I think, with Ahmadinejad, personally, he is not one to negotiate with," said Palin, referring to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. "You can't just sit down with him with no preconditions being met."

"Barack Obama is so off base in his proclamation that he would meet with some of these leaders around our world who would seek to destroy America and that, and without preconditions being met," she continued. "That's beyond naïve. And it's beyond bad judgment."

Asked if she considers former Republican Secretary of State Henry Kissinger to be "naïve" for supporting talks without preconditions, Palin said, "I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, 'Yeah, I'll meet with these leaders without preconditions being met.'"

Palin was overlooking that Kissinger (with whom she met earlier this week) has backed negotiating directly with Iran over its nuclear program and other bilateral issues -- a point which Couric reconfirmed at the closer of her interview.

"Incidentally," said Couric, "we confirmed Henry Kissinger's position following our interview, he told us he supports talks if not with Ahmadinejad, than with high-level Iranian officials without preconditions."

When contacted by ABC News about the split in position with Kissinger, the McCain-Palin campaign had no immediate comment.


I'm just glad she's not a DOCTOR... I hate
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IMO the doctor is as much to be blamed as this woman....sm
Her motivation to undergo IVF, while having already 6 children whom she can not maintain and care on her own, was manipulative. I do not understand how the doctor could accept to go through with this procedure, even 1 child would have been 1 too many.
I suspect that the woman made a pact with the doctor to screw the system and he profits also from this.
I have no other explanation.


Make an appointment with a a doctor
who is specialized in 'treatment of mental derangement'.
Lu-natic? Call your doctor..............nm
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Doctor's take the Hippocrates oath and have to abide...sm
by it or have their license pulled. It may not be illegal but is unethical. It is hard for me to believe a doctor would risk his license by talking about this on tape on the record. Do you have a verifiable source?
If a doctor truly believed his hippocratic oath he would not be...
killing babies for ANY reason other than to save the life of the mother.
The hype doctor's experiment and its data
Personally, if I had electrodes hooked up to me, I am sure if I were forced to listen to the Obama hype, I would sent my lines so low they would fall off the scale...in disgust for the content of the slur and the attempt to run a campaign that centers around drumming up hatred for a presidential candidate....no, let me amend that statement...our next President.
Extreme medical situations is NOT what this doctor
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None. But I have not killed any either. sm.
with an organization who facilitates adoptions and alternative choices to abortion. Many girls have decided to not abort and keep their child when they have a support system and don't feel so alone. It is important work. I do put my money where my mouth is. Sometimes the easy fix is not the best fix. Why not go to the net and Google children of rape or children of incest or read some of the positive stories for people who chose life for the child. In the grand scheme of things, what is nine months of pregnancy for an entire lifetime of another person? To the tune of almost 2 million a year? If we can help ONE girl choose not to kill her baby I consider that a victory.
They killed themselves!

Good grief!  Is there anything else that hurts your feelings?  Just let us know so we can walk on eggshells for you. 


People take for granted being able to have any choice whatsoever in what doctor they see
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What if the protesting is getting them killed. sm
Like it did in Vietnam? 
Who Killed The Electric Car?

Wow, I just watched that documentary and it was very eye opening!  The movie just talks about automotive manufacturers and oil companies crushing electric car manufactuing in the 1990s.  Cars can run off of electricity alone, but of course the oil companies would lose trillions of dollars if electric cars became the norm for most Americans.  I highly recommend watching the movie.


I also recommend replacing at least one regular light bulb in your home with an energy-saving model.  If every household in the US did this, we could reduce global warming pollution by more than 90 billion pounds over the life of the bulbs; the SAME AS TAKING 6.3 MILLION CARS OFF THE ROAD. Wow!  Just a small thing we can all do to make a big difference.


I have believed for years that big companies are running this country.  They seem to have most politicians in the palm of their hand.  It's sickening, really.  Greed is such an ugly destructive thing, and these big corporations will never feel that they have enough money.  They want more, more, more and will crush anything to get it.  Many politicians are their puppets, and big corporations have entirely TOO MUCH power over this country and do not have the average American family's best interests at heart.  We all need to stand up and demand more freedom from foreign oil.


my son was delivered and almost killed
by Amy the Bryman student nurse midwife.
who killed the electric car?
I love this documentary. I think GM has bad karma.
Coulter says Murtha should be killed.

It's apparently acceptable to advocate assassination as long as you're a darling of the Republican party.


http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002689569


Latest Ann Coulter Outrage: On Fragging John Murtha

By E&P Staff

Published: June 15, 2006 11:55 PM ET


NEW YORK With the brief debate over Iraq in Congress producing such acrimony this week that one congressman suggested opponents of the war support al-Qaeda, it should come as no surprise that columnist and author Ann Coulter would top them all.

In an email interview with John Hawkins at the Right Wing News web site, Coulter was asked, among other things, to offer short comments on several individuals. After harmlessly dismissing former Ambassador Joseph Wilson as the World's most intensely private exhibitionist, she said of Rep. John Murtha, the hawkish ex-Marine and now antiwar congressman: The reason soldiers invented 'fragging.'

Fragging, which became a well-known expression --and occurence -- during the Vietnam war, means soldiers attempting to kill their own officers for one reason or another.

This was so over the top that conservative Mike Krempasky at RedState.org posted, I've said before that's its kind of ironic that just about every phrase Stewie from Family Guy uses to describe Lois could easily be applied to Ann Coulter. Well - once again, Ann proves us right. He went on to call her fragging remark absolutely disgusting....there's no excuse - NONE - for the allusion to soldiers who kill other soldiers. It's despicable - and frankly, so is Coulter.

Coulter's column is syndicated by Universal Press Syndicate. On its home page, Universal hails her witty, no-holds-barred commentaries on the Washington scene. She tackles the hot issues with fervor and stands up for the things that she believes in.




E&P Staff (letters@editorandpublisher.com)


Never said Bush killed anyone. Complicit, yes.nm
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Would you like me to quote how many children killed TI
by Hamas Muslim suicide bombers?  Children have been dying all along. You have so little scope of this picture, it is insulting.
Democrats killed our economy when they took
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How many Hamas do you supposed they killed
when they bombed the women's dormitory at the University? Explain to me what threat the five Ba'lousheh sisters, ages 17, 14, 8, 4 and 2 and residents of Jabalya refugee camp, posed to Israel? All five were buried today. It is not enough for Israel cripple and starve the refugees with its ongoing strangling blockade of food, supplies and medicine and turn Gaza and he West Bank into one huge armed prison camp. These blood thirsty barbarians will not rest until they have satisfied their appetites with their latest fix of Arab slaughter. After all, it's already been 2 long years since Lebanon....way too long for the more ravenous among them to endure.
No, it was over 1,000. killed. Check YOUR facts.
I am not sure how reliable this source is, but here goes:
http://links.org.au/node/823

Occupied Ramallah, Palestine -- December 27, 2008 -- Today, the Israeli occupation army committed a new massacre in Gaza, causing the death and injury of hundreds of Palestinian civilians [latest reports place the death toll at more than 200].

They did not state the number of wounded, but that is a far cry from the "over 1,000 killed" that you quoted. And if you do any Google searching at all, the number varies by whatever web site you go to.

And why does Israel have to kow-tow to the world? Why does Israel get blamed for all the troubles in the middle east? Ask yourself what provoked Israel to do that? I just can't see Israel waking up and saying, "Oh boy, what a beautiful day, let's go kill ourselves some Palestinians." Everybody knows that Palestine is a Hamas stronghold and that any terrorist groups in the middle east get their money and weapons from Hamas by way of iran and other countries that hate the USA. And that is most of them.
Cigarettes killed my dad but he still would HATE this
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What facts do you have that Bush killed this woman
I think the onus is on you here to prove that Bush killed somebody, not for me to prove he didn't.
Eventually, Saddam would have killed enough of his own people sm
maybe we wouldn't have to worry about it, right?  I mean, really, he was only killig his own people, so what is the problem.  He was persecuting his OWN people.  What a guy.
You man after Israel killed 6 Palestinians on November 5 and
failed to lift the blockade, a condition of the truce they ignored the entire time? Your ignorant statement about the Kool-Aid is completely illogical since Obama voiced a fairly unequivocal sympathy for Israel back in June during his visit there. My thoughts are completely my own and are based in reality, one shared by pretty much the rest of the world outside the homeland, and on my own experiences, not 60 years of US and Israel lies and propaganda.
Do you know how many young people BUSH KILLED FOR OIL? sm
Even Palin admitted in her interview with the moron Glenn Beck that the war was at least partially about energy resources. Wise up!

Tiller the Baby Killer -- Killed

Gunned down at church this morning.


Iraqi Colleagues Killed U.S. Soldiers, Military Says

And 19 Republican senators and a conservative poster crashing this this board think that monsters like this should receive amnesty for killing our soldiers.  Unbelievable.







Iraqi colleagues killed U.S. soldiers, military says





SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- Two California soldiers shot to death in Iraq were murdered by Iraqi civil-defense officers patrolling with them, military investigators have found.


The deaths of Army Spc. Patrick R. McCaffrey Sr. and 1st Lt. Andre D. Tyson were originally attributed to an ambush during a patrol near Balad, Iraq, on June 22, 2004.


But the Army's Criminal Investigation Command found that one or more of the Iraqis attached to the American soldiers on patrol fired at them, a military official said Tuesday. (Watch a mother's quest for truth -- 1:26)


A Pentagon spokesman knew of no other similar incident, calling it extremely rare.


The Army has conducted an extensive investigation into the deaths but declined to provide details out of respect for relatives of the soldiers, spokesman Paul Boyce said Tuesday evening.


It was unclear whether the investigators had established a motive or arrested any suspects.


The families of McCaffrey and Tyson were to be briefed on the report's conclusions Tuesday and Wednesday by Brig. Gen. Oscar Hilman, the soldiers' commander at the time, and three other officers.


When they come I have my list of questions ready, and I want these answers and I don't want lies, McCaffrey's mother, Nadia McCaffrey, said.


Soldiers who witnessed the attack have told her that two Iraqi patrolmen opened fire on her son's unit. The witnesses also said a third gunman simultaneously drove up to the American unit in a van, climbed onto the vehicle and fired at the Americans, she said.


Nothing is clear. Nothing is clear, she said. Her son was shot eight times by bullets of various calibers, some of which penetrated his body armor, she said. She believes he bled to death.


Nadia McCaffrey has become a vocal critic of the war in Iraq, and said her son had reservations about it, too, though he served well and was promoted posthumously to sergeant.


I really want this story to come out; I want people to know what happened to my son, she said. There is no doubt to me that this (ambushes by attached Iraqi units) is still happening to soldiers today, but our chain of command is awfully reckless; they don't seem to give a damn about what's happening to soldiers.


Iraqi forces who had trained with the Americans had fired at them twice before the incident that killed Patrick McCaffrey, and he had reported it to his superiors, she said.


Boyce said the U.S. military remained confident in its operations with Iraqis.


We continue to have confidence in our operations with Iraqi soldiers and have witnessed the evolution of a stronger fighting army for the Iraqi people, he said.


Patrick McCaffrey joined the National Guard the day after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, his mother said.


Tyson's family could not be located, and a message left with his former unit was not immediately returned.


McCaffrey, 34, and Tyson, 33, were members of the California National Guard. Both were assigned to the Army National Guard's 579th Engineer Battalion, based in Petaluma.


Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-California, pressed the Pentagon for answers about the case when Nadia McCaffrey was unsatisfied by explanations from the military.


Mrs. McCaffrey is set to receive a briefing from Pentagon officials (Wednesday) afternoon in California, during which we hope they will provide her with a full report of the facts surrounding Sgt. McCaffrey's death, said Natalie Ravitz, a Boxer spokeswoman.



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NOBODY WHO SAYS THEY ARE GLAD A HOMOSEXUAL WAS KILLED IN PHILADELPHIA IS ENTERTAINING EITHER...
yet one the liberals who post here told me that AL Franken was an entertainer and he said that...soooo....is PERFECTING JEWS any WORSE than I WAS GLAD THE PUDDING HOMOSEXUAL WAS KILLED IN PHILADELPHIA? DO YOU UNDERSTAND?????

And if you would read my posts, you would see that I do not agree with what she said, and I do not WATCH her...because someone does not watch her does not change what she is. I did not say I was personally entertained by it...far from it. But others are...they buy her books, they go to her lectures...and an amazing number of liberals do it to heckle her or read her books just so they can slam her...but their money spends just like anyone else's...they are the ones who keep her on the front page. I also said people would ignore her she would go away. She needs an audience, and liberals make up a good deal of that audience. Geez....dial it back a notch, will ya???