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i think for one reason it shows he is not a judgmental...

Posted By: sam on 2008-09-01
In Reply to: McCain knew about Bristol before he picked her so what on Earth does that say...sm - worst part

hypocrite like some of you posting here. This from the party of tolerance? What a load of bullhockey.


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You are really judgmental...
I am honest.  You are judgmental.  This is getting boring. 
There are insuling and judgmental
You only have to read the posts here to see that for yourself. The only thing that changes are the buzz words.

Not so long ago, it was the liberals being called un-American for railing against the Bush administration. It was the liberals calling Bush a fascist and saying his policies took away citizens' rights and were dangerous for our country. I believe they were told something along the lines of if you don't like it here leave and that only conservatives were "real Americans."

Now apparently, the roles have been reversed. I guess it all depends on whose party holds the majority.
It absolutely is judgmental!
It is not YOUR place to say if it is right or wrong.  It is YOUR place to refrain from homosexuality because that is YOUR belief, that's all you get. 
No, my dear, I am not a judgmental fool. If I am, and in your
opinion it seems I am, then I will direct you to God's Word that stands in judgment and condemnation of Osbambo.

You got a problem with my judgement, then you have a problem with God, and to be frank, that is obvious.
The left is the most insulting, judgmental
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You're calling someone else judgmental?

You're calling someone else judgmental?
Wow...super pot/kettle moment. Gay kids are tormented in schools all the time. Back when I was a kid (many many years ago), they weren't yet called gay. They were the sissy. They were the ones the football team would nail in gym class and smear BenGay on them. They were the ones that got so abused in Dodge Ball that it's no longer considered appropriate in many schools. These poor kids suffered through all kinds of mental anguish because they couldn't really understand what made them a target. You may like to think gays choose to be homosexual, but there is nobody that would choose to go through the crap that those kids went through then and still go through in many areas of this country.

And you go ahead and stick your head in the sand. And maybe you better rethink who you think is the pervert murderer. Most of them are nice straight heterosexual, boy scout troop leading, baseball team coaching, family men who had this sudden lapse where boys started looking good. You don't suppose they maybe developed latent homosexual tendencies because a closed-minded judgmental zealot parent made them repress it all their life, do you?
Why are "Christians" so judgmental when Christ wasn't that way
shame on you gay haters
This is the reason we are in Iraq and it's the same reason I didn't vote for him in 2000: Didn't

his own personal reasons.


http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050620/why_george_went_to_war.php


The Downing Street memos have brought into focus an essential question: on what basis did President George W. Bush decide to invade Iraq? The memos are a government-level confirmation of what has been long believed by so many: that the administration was hell-bent on invading Iraq and was simply looking for justification, valid or not.


Despite such mounting evidence, Bush resolutely maintains total denial. In fact, when a British reporter asked the president recently about the Downing Street documents, Bush painted himself as a reluctant warrior. "Both of us didn't want to use our military," he said, answering for himself and British Prime Minister Blair. "Nobody wants to commit military into combat. It's the last option."


Yet there's evidence that Bush not only deliberately relied on false intelligence to justify an attack, but that he would have willingly used any excuse at all to invade Iraq. And that he was obsessed with the notion well before 9/11—indeed, even before he became president in early 2001.


In interviews I conducted last fall, a well-known journalist, biographer and Bush family friend who worked for a time with Bush on a ghostwritten memoir said that an Iraq war was always on Bush's brain.


"He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999," said author and Houston Chronicle journalist Mickey Herskowitz. "It was on his mind. He said, 'One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.' And he said, 'My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.' He went on, 'If I have a chance to invade…, if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency.'"


Bush apparently accepted a view that Herskowitz, with his long experience of writing books with top Republicans, says was a common sentiment: that no president could be considered truly successful without one military "win" under his belt. Leading Republicans had long been enthralled by the effect of the minuscule Falklands War on British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's popularity, and ridiculed Democrats such as Jimmy Carter who were reluctant to use American force. Indeed, both Reagan and Bush's father successfully prosecuted limited invasions (Grenada, Panama and the Gulf War) without miring the United States in endless conflicts.


Herskowitz's revelations illuminate Bush's personal motivation for invading Iraq and, more importantly, his general inclination to use war to advance his domestic political ends. Furthermore, they establish that this thinking predated 9/11, predated his election to the presidency and predated his appointment of leading neoconservatives who had their own, separate, more complex geopolitical rationale for supporting an invasion.


Conversations With Bush The Candidate


Herskowitz—a longtime Houston newspaper columnist—has ghostwritten or co-authored autobiographies of a broad spectrum of famous people, including Reagan adviser Michael Deaver, Mickey Mantle, Dan Rather and Nixon cabinet secretary John B. Connally. Bush's 1999 comments to Herskowitz were made over the course of as many as 20 sessions together. Eventually, campaign staffers—expressing concern about things Bush had told the author that were included in the manuscript—pulled the project, and Bush campaign officials came to Herskowitz's house and took his original tapes and notes. Bush communications director Karen Hughes then assumed responsibility for the project, which was published in highly sanitized form as A Charge to Keep.


The revelations about Bush's attitude toward Iraq emerged during two taped sessions I held with Herskowitz. These conversations covered a variety of matters, including the journalist's continued closeness with the Bush family and fondness for Bush Senior—who clearly trusted Herskowitz enough to arrange for him to pen a subsequent authorized biography of Bush's grandfather, written and published in 2003.


I conducted those interviews last fall and published an article based on them during the final heated days of the 2004 campaign. Herskowitz's taped insights were verified to the satisfaction of editors at the Houston Chronicle, yet the story failed to gain broad mainstream coverage, primarily because news organization executives expressed concern about introducing such potent news so close to the election. Editors told me they worried about a huge backlash from the White House and charges of an "October Surprise."


Debating The Timeline For War


But today, as public doubts over the Iraq invasion grow, and with the Downing Street papers adding substance to those doubts, the Herskowitz interviews assume singular importance by providing profound insight into what motivated Bush—personally—in the days and weeks following 9/11. Those interviews introduce us to a George W. Bush, who, until 9/11, had no means for becoming "a great president"—because he had no easy path to war. Once handed the national tragedy of 9/11, Bush realized that the Afghanistan campaign and the covert war against terrorist organizations would not satisfy his ambitions for greatness. Thus, Bush shifted focus from Al Qaeda, perpetrator of the attacks on New York and Washington. Instead, he concentrated on ensuring his place in American history by going after a globally reviled and easily targeted state run by a ruthless dictator.


The Herskowitz interviews add an important dimension to our understanding of this presidency, especially in combination with further evidence that Bush's focus on Iraq was motivated by something other than credible intelligence. In their published accounts of the period between 9/11 and the March 2003 invasion, former White House Counterterrorism Coordinator Richard Clarke and journalist Bob Woodward both describe a president single-mindedly obsessed with Iraq. The first anecdote takes place the day after the World Trade Center collapsed, in the Situation Room of the White House. The witness is Richard Clarke, and the situation is captured in his book, Against All Enemies.



On September 12th, I left the Video Conferencing Center and there, wandering alone around the Situation Room, was the President. He looked like he wanted something to do. He grabbed a few of us and closed the door to the conference room. "Look," he told us, "I know you have a lot to do and all…but I want you, as soon as you can, to go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way…"


I was once again taken aback, incredulous, and it showed. "But, Mr. President, Al Qaeda did this."


"I know, I know, but…see if Saddam was involved. Just look. I want to know any shred…" …


"Look into Iraq, Saddam," the President said testily and left us. Lisa Gordon-Hagerty stared after him with her mouth hanging open.


Similarly, Bob Woodward, in a CBS News 60 Minutes interview about his book, Bush At War, captures a moment, on November 21, 2001, where the president expresses an acute sense of urgency that it is time to secretly plan the war with Iraq. Again, we know there was nothing in the way of credible intelligence to precipitate the president's actions.



Woodward: "President Bush, after a National Security Council meeting, takes Don Rumsfeld aside, collars him physically and takes him into a little cubbyhole room and closes the door and says, 'What have you got in terms of plans for Iraq? What is the status of the war plan? I want you to get on it. I want you to keep it secret.'"


Wallace (voiceover): Woodward says immediately after that, Rumsfeld told Gen. Tommy Franks to develop a war plan to invade Iraq and remove Saddam—and that Rumsfeld gave Franks a blank check.


Woodward: "Rumsfeld and Franks work out a deal essentially where Franks can spend any money he needs. And so he starts building runways and pipelines and doing all the necessary preparations in Kuwait specifically to make war possible."


Bush wanted a war so that he could build the political capital necessary to achieve his domestic agenda and become, in his mind, "a great president." Blair and the members of his cabinet, unaware of the Herskowitz conversations, placed Bush's decision to mount an invasion in or about July of 2002. But for Bush, the question that summer was not whether, it was only how and when. The most important question, why, was left for later.


Eventually, there would be a succession of answers to that question: weapons of mass destruction, links to Al Qaeda, the promotion of democracy, the domino theory of the Middle East. But none of them have been as convincing as the reason George W. Bush gave way back in the summer of 1999.



 


No it shows that I know something
you haven't bothered to check out for yourself.

France was right about IRAQ.

And WE IGNORED HITLER's atrocities until OUR economics were at stake, THEN we did the right thing, but NOT BEFORE.


Maybe it shows
how "frugal" the McCain/Palin ticket would be in the White House, you reckon???  So Mrs. O's dress looked like it came from a yard sale?  So what?  She is clean and she is neat, that's all I require.  Why should candidates have to "look like they came from Saks Fifth Avenue to impress people?"  I used to like to go in Saks in Houston when I lived there just to see how the upper crust lived.   I did actually make purchases...............they had the most fabulus truffles you ever sank your teeth in........my weakness. t I would indulge even though they cost $6 EACH and that was back in the 80s.  Lord knows what they cost now.
It just shows the

true character of our president-elect.  He is stepping up to the rudderless ship regardless of the consequences.  His presidency is not a desire for power, a desire to upstage daddy, or a way to ensure future big bucks giving speeches or sitting on a board of a corporation.  He is doing it simply for the love of his country.  Bless him.


 


Where would we end up if everyone of us shows off
what looks good on us???????
I think this shows...
how ignorant so many in this country are to our own history. I guess that's why we keep making the same mistakes over and over again.
This shows you exactly how much you know about the terrorists. sm
And THAT has been the worst part about all this.  Bush hatred has not only fried you to crispy critters, it has made you dangerously ignorant. 
i'm trying to pull that up and it shows
not sure what is going on.

You ask me about fear? I do believe things can and will get better. This is not something that is going to happen overnight and to be honest with you, I believe it will be worse with Obama.... Regarding the economy, there is a lot of fingerpointing and obviously I myself cannot be sure where exactly this started but we have had a democratic congress.
Pretty much shows
what we could expect from his administration.  More lunacy.  He wanted to win at all costs and he no doubt thought Palin would deliver Clinton supporter's votes.  After that fiasco how anyone can think he will turn this country around is beyond me.
This one shows him more clearly - he says it toward the end of the clip (sm)
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=pf0XIRZSTt8&NR=1
why delete? it shows a pic
of a radical looking Obama and a soldier McCain???? What's the matter my liberal friend? Don't like the truth? Is it NOT obama in his true form and not mccain in HIS true form? Maybe you object to them using a picture that doesn't portray a Messiah look?
Nope, sure can't. When God shows me
I just gotta plow right on through.
Class certainly shows.

The UK presents diplomatic gifts of great antiquity, value  and meaning and in return we  hand them, what?  Plastic model planes?   Talk about a low-rent reception!  Yeah, I guess we  really are illustrating that we don't care enough to give the very best.  


Is also shows how much you know about ethics and morality....
You appear to be a fool.  An unethical fool.
I find most politicians on these shows

respond with rehearsed speech, or just do not answer the question. On Hardball, Chris will say answer the question, yes or no, over and over and over and whoever just goes off on whatever tangent.


 


That just shows the level of insensitivity....
this is an anonymous posting board. You people have posted nastiness about someone and named them. Dailykrap posted it where the entire nation can look at it. You have invaded the privacy of a 16-year-old girl who has done nothing to deserve it and made her public fodder. Perhaps you are proud of that. I cannot imagine that you would be, yet you attack me and support those who would do such a thing. Amazing.
definitely shows poor judgement
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Just shows Fox DOES show both sides....
she let the other side have it too about their dishonest ads...though you probably won't find that part on Huffington Post.
It seems to me that this study shows that conservatives (sm)
are MORE concerned about others than democrats. They see a picture of SOMEONE ELSE who is hurt or dead and they react more than the democrats. I used to think of myself as being fairly liberal, but if that means being associated with the type of people many of the democrats who post on here appear to be, then no thanks, I'll call myself conservative. Actually I always vote for the candidate I agree with most, regardless of party.
Knock yourself out, there. Shows just how much respect
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Just shows that majority of USA no longer truly
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i didn't write that - shows what you don't know
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All talk shows gripe about everybody, not just him

They griped about Bush, McCain, Palin, the other Bush, Clinton, you name it. They are fair game and you should know that. The pot shots are to get more viewers, get laughs, or just let their own feelings out.


They are not griping about O. In fact, most of the news media has put him in a pedestal since the beginning. 


Another pub shows his true colors....(sm)

check this out:


http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/01/29/armey/


I agree President should not be on TV shows
I was thinking this last night...how can we have respect for the Office of the President the president is not acting like a president but rather like a movie star.  It is really unbecoming. 
Just shows your ignorance of the military then..
period. Just because you might not like it, does not change the fact that that's how it works. Nobody acts alone in the military. Any action must be approved by the Commander in Chief - who is the President. So, as much as it KILLS some people to give Obama any credit whatsoever, I'm afraid that is where the credit is due in this case.
Just shows your ignorance of the military
period. Just because you might not like it, does not change the fact that that's how it works. Nobody acts alone in the military. Any action must be approved by the Commander in Chief - who is the President. So, as much as it KILLS some people to give Obama any credit whatsoever, I'm afraid that is where the credit is due in this case - along with the brave men who did the actual physical rescuing.

They were ALL brave and they ALL acted with bravery and intelligence.
A quick look at this board shows...
me exactly where they are.
Funny shows typically do...(sm)
get pretty decent ratings, but that's not exactly what most are looking for in the news.  That's why CNN sent him to the cartoon network  -- FIXED NOISE.
Post the name of the other liberal talk shows here...Thanks! sm

BGlobe thread just shows how interested U R
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It means that JM's voting record shows he has...sm
voted against veteran's interests the majority of the time.
I just heard on one of the morning money shows...sm
that the tax breaks that are in it for some business entites, whether they be in American Samoa, or Puerto Rico, and the ones in the U.S., even though they appear to be pork related....they will bring home "the bacon."

In other words, designed to have revenue here, home in the U.S.


That's what I know about that....


don't know other details yet.
This silly diversion only shows just how hard
Do you not care anything about death threats and assassination plans against the president-elect of your country? Does it mean anything to you at all that there is a visible, palpable cause to this effect? Would you be this dismissive were the shoe on the other foot and it was McCain we were talking about? Grow up, for God's sake. This is serious business this threat to life thing.
No danger of no shows. Media coverage alone
imagine that. W being upstaged by an elite, Islamic, racist, terrorist, socialist, commie pinko Nazi.
I guess that's kind of like news shows........sm
depends on your point of view. Personally, I think you are the one being "snarky."
Here is a site that shows the federal budget

over the past 3 years, including charts. This is by the National Debt Awareness Center. There are lots of other links on there to check out too but, again, I am short on time today.


http://www.federalbudget.com/


This is an article from U.S. News about the budget outlook:


http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2009/02/25/hot-docs-bleak-and-uncertain-federal-budget-outlook-as-deficit-climbs.html


I saw today where they passed a budget to take us through the next couple months to the tune of $896B. Filled with pork. Hopefully, I'll get a chance to look it up tomorrow.


 


Looking back on the liberal conservative board shows you for what you are.
Liar.
This statement shows ignorance of basic economics
You are misinformed to such an extent that it makes you unable to recognize your own best interests. If you candidate wins, look for your profession to decline by leaps and bounds, if it survives at all.
Drives you crazy when a candidate shows conviction
a steady hand, a good head on his shoulders and the crowds respond enthusiastically, doesn't it?
Secret Service Shows Up At Texas Mom's Door...














Quote:
They came first for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.

Then they came for me,
and by that time no one was left to speak up.








Quote:
Last week, here in America, they came for Jessica Hughes, and I will not be silent. I will not turn away, hoping, in the end, they will not come for me.

Jessica Hughes of Lufkin, Texas, former Marine, mother of three, answered her cell phone in the car, coming home from the emergency room. Her 9-year-old had suffered a mild concussion, but was OK.

The caller was a female Obama volunteer who asked if Jessica would support Obama for president.

Jessica replied, "No, I don't support him. Your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the state Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time." Then Jessica hung up.

The next day, a man and a woman in suits showed up at the door of her home, identifying themselves as members of the Secret Service.

The Secret Service agents stated that the Obama campaign had complained of a death threat. They had quoted Jessica as saying, "I will never support Obama, and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor."

Jessica's husband had heard Jessica's side of the original phone call and verified the actual quote. To which the female agent replied, "Oh? Well why would she (the Obama volunteer) make that up?"

Jessica replied that the Obama volunteer was probably unhappy about what Jessica had said about her candidate. The female agent then said "That's right, you were rude!"

The male agent then displayed a file with Jessica's full name prominently printed on it and asked her how she felt about Obama. At this point, the former Marine told the agent "in no uncertain terms" (as she later recounted) that this was America and that the last time she checked, she was allowed to think whatever she wanted without being questioned by the Secret Service. And was being "rude" a federal crime now too?

The agents then admitted they had no tape of the conversation, just the quote from the Obama campaign.

Responding to Jessica's questions, the agents would not identify themselves by name, nor reveal the name of the Obama volunteer who had made the complaint. The agents did indicate that Jessica was not in a court of law yet, and that they were trying to not embarrass her "by going to all her family and neighbors."

To these implied threats, Jessica invited the agents to speak to whomever they wanted, and stated she would happily go to court since she had done nothing wrong.

Jessica asked the agents, "Look, someone calls me unsolicited on my cell phone to ask me to support their candidate, and I can't tell them why I don't?"

The Secret Service left Jessica that day, but she could not get the "visit" out of her mind.


Source:http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=77825

First, Israel is not committing genocide. History shows

that it has been the Palestinians who have been the aggressors.  Israel goal is protect its people from suicide bombers and the palestinians' so-called "intifada." 


But this argment is getting tired and obviously you cannot see where using Hitler to emphasize your point is a poor choice and would make a Jew view you as an anti-Semite.  If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...


Yup, forgot Glenn came over from CNN, yes, he has great informative shows....nm
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