talking point #1
Posted By: menula on 2008-09-21
In Reply to: Republican control - Long time MT
Dems have had congress since 2006.
The posts on this board remind me of the joke about prisoners yelling out "Number 13!" Everyone laughs because they have all heard the same jokes so many times. The prisoners decided just to number all the jokes and yell out the number instead of repeating the joke over and over.
Hence, this Dems have controlled congress since 2006 will be deemed #1.
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Liberal talking point for the day
Pro-war. Tell all the little neocons they are pro-war because they want victory in Iraq. You're so transparent.
Point taken, although I was not talking just about SCHIP...
I was talking about any government administered health plan. You can choose to ignore the VA system or Canada's government controlled health plan if you want to....I choose not to. With that being said...no more on government health care.
guess another talking point
Obama wants to talk to terrorists is down the drain. SP just wants to give speeches to them telling them how important they are.
You're missing the point. She's not talking about
people like your stepdaughter. She's talking about all the free loaders who won't get off their lazy butts and get a job even when they are more than capable of doing so.
When I was little my mom struggled to feed the two of us because my dad was a deadbeat. She went to the welfare office asking for just a little help to feed us. They told her that she made too much money but if she quit her job, they would pay for everything: housing, food, everything. She could have easily taken the easy route and taken them up on their offer but had too much integrity. Here she was making too much money in their eyes but many weeks only had $5 after bills to feed herself and her only child. Now that is a messed up government. I'm all for helping people help themselves. Pay for day care while they get an education, pay for food while they work to better themselves but NOT pay for them to drive fancy cars, have satellite that they watch on big screen TVs, and eat potato chips and ice cream. Get real, open your eyes, and quit making excuses for the lazy! We're not talking about the needy. Yes, there are people are mentally or physically unable to work. That is NOT who we are talking about!
Thank you for answering her post with a liberal talking point. :-) nm
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Wow, they squeezed every Democratic talking point in that article. Congrats. How is this helpful?
When McBush is talking, he isn't talking to you unless you are wealthy or CEO
who provides campaign funds. Do you know why lobbyists are making the headlines? Because they are bribing the politicians of both parties - lobbyists work for private interests (AIPAC) along with the pharmaceutical company ($280.00 for a bottle of pills? Only in America, folks), oil industry (record profits at your expense) credit card companies and unethical banking procedures (Funny isn't it how Visa wrote the reformed BK bill, making virtually everyone end up in ch 13 (garnishing income, including SS) after raising credit limits and offering transfer balances at 0 percent to everyone with a last name and a roof over their head? Along with mtgs that were bound to turn into bad loans when house prices dropped which they always do after a bubble. God, I could go on and on here but I get tired. The nation is in such trouble. Serious serious trouble. There is a huge loan to an unfriendly country (did you watch the Olympics? did you ever see Bush look more uncomfortable other than during the Stephen Colbert roast during the national press conference. lol.
Well I want you to know what fascism. And I want you to know that those treasury notes are backed up by the taxpayers (you) and real estate including roads and govt buildings and parks. Have you noticed why Save-Mart Center is owned by savemart and not a community business or the community itself? There is somethign happening slowly and surely and it is NOT going to benefit middle class america one iota. You must know that as a poor person, you have no power, no voice. Elections are rigged and the politicans cease to care whether you like them or not - oh wait, that has already happened.
THINK ABOUT THIS!!!! Your 401Ks and investments/assets are what at are stake!
Fascist governments nationalized key industries and made massive state investments. They also introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of Soviet-style economic planning measures.[12] Property rights and private initiative were contingent upon service to the state.[13].[14] Fascists promoted their ideology as a "third way" between capitalism and Marxian socialism.[15] Fascists in Germany and Italy claimed that they opposed reactionaries, and that they were actually revolutionary political movements that fused with conservative social values.
Talking to them is talking to a brick wall.
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I think BB has a point here in that the main point on the board is political discussion, and let'
face it, there is SO MUCH going on right now, changes, problems, disasters, and so much debate on what should/could be done, but so many tims the political discussion disintegrates in a finger-pointing, name-calling exercise, spouting religion all over the place. Yeah, our spiritual beliefs are dearly held and we would all strive to be the best we can be, and do whatever we can whatever the ideology is, but sometimes I wonder, since we have a board EXPRESSLY for Faith isuues, where relgious debates/discussions/forums, etc are welcome, why does THIS board have to be turned into RELIGION BOARD PART II, especially if one ideology wants to dominate or ridicule/condemn those who come on here for lively inteligent discussion, debate of issues in Congress and in our lives, and just want their beliefs held separately? CNN is not EWTN or any other Christian network, and there are constant informative, bright, lively, balanced discussions from all over the political spectrum on the credentialed news stations, as well as C-Span, but they are not constantly hiding behind a cross, rosary, bible, star of David, or whatever....can we not strive to do the same and put religious debate on the Faith board?? Just a thought to ponder, MHO, it might work beter, who knows?
I am, not talking about Clinton, I am talking
about the torture of prisoners, crimes against the Geneva conventions.
It seems that you did not read the last sentence in my former post.
Are you saying that crimes from the near past should all be forgotten?
is the the starting point or the end point for the middle class?
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I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.
Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming my world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction. They are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say?
I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.
Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming a world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not exactly have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction they employ in order to "secure" themselves.
The Palestinians are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say? This might just account for the lop-sided fatalities/injuries ratios between the Israelis and the Palestinians. In closing, it is worth noting that even with the advantage of all those terrorist toys and tools our tax dollars have bestowed upon them, security and peace of mind just seem to be further and further beyond their reach. Wonder why that is?
If your point is that it was 7 years ago, that's not much of a point is it? sm
Not long ago at all in the scope of things. The point is that the same thing could and probably would happen here. 9-11 happened 7 years ago too....I guess that couldn't happen again, huh?
I get your point, but my main point is -
why should the government be allowed to tell people what they can and can't eat? Everyone says the government is too involved in our business anyway, so if they should stay out of one part of our lives, they should stay out of all parts of our lives!
Not really, you'd have to know what they were talking about
which I didn't know about the incident of the soldier accidentally killing other soldiers.
Thanks though.
Wow! what are you talking about???nm
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What are you talking about?
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I was talking about myself when I said that.
You might want to re-read my post.
What are you talking about?
I am sure I don't know. I know your game though.
Not what I was talking about
Wasn't referring to WMD, as stated in my post.
Saddam had gotten rid of the WMDs, said his son-in-law, quite a few years earlier. If your theory of invading a country that no longer is a threat, then would you also advise invading Germany since they used to have a Nazi regime?
If you are talking to me...
which question did I not answer?
who are you talking to?
I don't understand the anonymous post... there are plenty I think it could be addressed to, why did you not point out what you mean? PS you are just stirring the pot more right?
Exactly what I am talking about. Think for yourself.
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Talking about yourself again, huh?
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what are you talking about?
straight out of left field... you random people!
Yes the baby has Down's syndrome...
He is so adorable did you see him when she held him on stage?
Babies are so amazing!
Okay, what are you talking about?
I just mean in terms of the baby being passed around. That's what people do with babies. They share the love.
Doncha have any babies in your family?
What are you talking about??
And you still have nothing positive to say about Obama.
All I'm asking for is something positive and you can't even do that.
You know exactly what I'm talking about; no need
You'll just produce your own figures (be they real or imagined) to 'back up' your own claims. But if you truly think the number of priests who have turned out to be sexual predators isn't a little fishy, then maybe that blindness is part of the problem.
No, I don't think he is talking about ...
the same sex ed for high school as he is kindergartners. However, it did describe talking about "sexual intercourse" and how HIV-AIDS is spread. I don't know how that is appropriate in any case for a kindergartner. The bill was specifically intended to open it up to the lower grades...it was already being taught in the upper grades. Why would you open that up to elementary school kids, let alone kindergartners? That was my point. If you want to establish a program for elementary school children about right and wrong touches, I am all for that. But introducing sexual intercourse and how HIV-AIDS is spread makes no sense to me for elementary school children. If they did not intend to teach it to elementary school children and kindergartners, why pass a bill to open it up to them?
Apparently many in the state senate agreed, because the bill did not pass.
That was my point. He in essence did vote for sex education for kindergartners and it was not just right and wrong touching. Thankfully, at least in my estimation...it did not pass. You saw the video...if he meant limited to "right and wrong touching" he would/should have said so.
I was talking about
appointing new justices to the supreme court. I would love to have lots of liberal justices seated on the bench. Has nothing to do with put babies in a closet, but hey, whatever.
Now that's what I'm talking about!
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This is exactly what I am talking about. nm
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Who do you think you are talking to?
from the experts to figure out tax structure, credits, cuts, deductions, incentives, etc, and certainly know myself, my beliefs, my principles and my values by now. I also know my party, their platform, my candidate and my choice.
Well am I talking to myself LOL
I meant this to go under the post of sm-m!
So, what will you be talking about
just curious
What are you talking about?!
Biden answered each and every question very completely and very eloquently. They were more like accusations than questions, and the whole thing resembled an ambush more than an interview. Please WATCH THE VIDEO OF THIS INTERVIEW (link below) and tell me just which question Biden DIDN'T answer.
I wouldn't waste my time being interviewed by this woman, either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X346U109Chs
What are you talking about
"Fox news is barely legal"
He's right, we ARE talking only to each other now UH OH, what now?
Seriously, what do we do now?
What R U talking about? sm
Joe Biden has been out doing rallies every day! Did you not know about Joe the Plumber standing up John McCain at his rally today? Oh, yeah, guess you were too busy looking up bogus trash about Obama online.
First of all, you don't know who you are talking to.
Second, the kind of ignorance displayed in your other post cannot strike any chord anywhere, except maybe a gag reflex. Obama has exactly the same "it" factor that JFK had. Furthermore, he challenges us to dig deep down inside to become our better selves. His faith in the American people to rise above division to unite is strong and unwavering.
His record of civil rights and community organizing belies your impotent claims regarding socialism...something I refuse to debate with someone who obviously has no clue as to the meaning of the word. It is your job to educate yourself, not mine.
I have lived long enough to understand exactly what I will be getting when Obama takes the oath and I am counting the days until we turn the corner on W's slash and burn and strike out on our journey to a better America. I am not threatened by the idea of equal opportunity for ALL Americans and I expect my leaders to fight to achieve that...that includes the poor.
I'm afraid I am not the one with disappointment in store, my dear. The pubs will not be able to steal another election, despite their best efforts. Third time is not the charm...not this time. They tried the same shennanigans in 1960...cried vote fraud, demanded recounts, which they got. The result? The original Nixon state of Hawaii moved over to the Kennedy side and he won 303 electoral votes to Nixon's 219. No need to defend an HONEST election. Why are the pubs always so paranoid to think that everythng MUST be rigged when they are clearly the losers? Sore losers, at that.
You are wallowing in negative energy whether you realize it or not. There is nothing "positive" about the pathetic witch hunt the pubs have been conducting now for months, all to no avail, currently in one last desperate attempt to save a candidate who cannot even put a decent campaign together. Try not to feel too badly. The party didn't really have a whole lot to work with from the get go.
She knows what she is talking about
and she knows how to deliver it. It is all in the delivery, not so much in the words. This is called charisma.
Smooth and velvety, like Obama.
What are you talking about?
http://www.economist.com/vote2008/index.cfm
You must be talking about....(sm)
The Financial Services Modernization Act (which really started it all).
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=1&vote=00354
Funny, I don't see a whole lot of "nays" beside the R's in the list.
about whom are you talking?..nm
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what are you talking about?...sm
It did not work for 8 years, so we try it differently, we needed change and we hope that it will work this way.
We were talking about this the other day...sm
But heck, then we got to thinking....we DO live in a foreign country, on the top of a mountain, in the wilderness....where no one can touch is if we don't want them to.
We're gonna hunker down for the next four years, and pray for the best.
If the worst happens, we'll be prepared.
Now that's what I'm talking about !
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That is not what we are talking about.
civil service where my 16yo daughter goes to the barracks for 3-4 months to learn training as if a war was coming. That is what Hitler used to do to his country.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80829
This was posted on 2nd page and already discussed the link above.
What are you talking about?
May I repeat myself again. The plan will operate like any other private group plan. O is only going to insure ACCESS to the existing plan that is now used by the House, Senate and federal employees. You choose your own doctor under a PPO or you can elect HMO which will function exactly the same as HMOs currently function. You choose from 4 or 5 different levels of coverage according to your desired deductible amount and level of coverage. This is NOT modeled after European socialized medicine. The government will not have ANYTHING TO DO with decisions regarding your health care. It is simply a plan to give all Americans affordable access to EXISTING plans.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????s/m
I just want to state that I am pro-abortion till the 3rd month.
THAT'S IT.
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