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I was always taught that types & grades are arabic and classes & stages are Roman numerals. nm

Posted By: Territ on 2008-07-24
In Reply to: Latex Allergy Question - LilB

Subject: I was always taught that types & grades are arabic and classes & stages are Roman numerals. nm




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III (stages and classes are Roman numerals, grades are Arabic) nm
Subject: III (stages and classes are Roman numerals, grades are Arabic) nm


Grades are arabic numbers and classes and stages are roman numerals.
Subject: Grades are arabic numbers and classes and stages are roman numerals.


most of the time grades are Arabic and classes are Roman, but I'm sure there are exceptions to th
Subject: most of the time grades are Arabic and classes are Roman, but I'm sure there are exceptions to that NM


Stages = Roman; Grades = Arabic --- all per the
Subject: Stages = Roman; Grades = Arabic --- all per the

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grades are numerals, stages always Roman
Subject: grades are numerals, stages always Roman

stage II-A but I don't know anything about that little *y* you left there - so I'd give them a blank there.........


stages are always roman numerals and grades are always numbers


stage IV, grade 4


Hope this helps somewhat - I've been doing oncology for 20 years..........next year....but MT'g for much longer  *lol*


grades = numbers; stages = Roman numerals....
Subject: grades = numbers; stages = Roman numerals....


jGrade is arabic such as grade 1, and stages are Roman numerals.
Subject: jGrade is arabic such as grade 1, and stages are Roman numerals.


grades use 1, 2, 3...stages use Roman
Subject: grades use 1, 2, 3...stages use Roman

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it is probably 2, usually Arabic numerals w/grades, but that is JMO NM
Subject: it is probably 2, usually Arabic numerals w/grades, but that is JMO NM


as I know it all stages are in roman numerals
Subject: as I know it all stages are in roman numerals


Roman numerals for stages are used
Subject: Roman numerals for stages are used

only for cancer the majority of the time. There are some exceptions, but the majority of the time it is roman numerals. For example, kidney disease is arabic, fractures are arabic. If it is not associated with cancer then it is more than likely arabic. You can always look it up and tell which is which, which is BOS2 suggests.
Not all stages are roman numerals, depends.
Subject: Not all stages are roman numerals, depends.

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grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).
Subject: grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).

Beaking is correct. I usually use a hyphen for in-between.
grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).
Subject: grade 2 to 3 (grades are roman numerals).

Beaking is correct. I usually use a hyphen for in-between.
Wrong. Not all stages are roman numerals anymore.
Subject: Wrong. Not all stages are roman numerals anymore.

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Stages are II, IV, etc. Grades are 2, 3, etc and
Subject: Stages are II, IV, etc. Grades are 2, 3, etc and

types are 1, 2, etc.
I know it as grades using numbers and stages
Subject: I know it as grades using numbers and stages


Grades and stages formatting
Subject: Grades and stages formatting

How should you format the following:


chronic hepatitis at grade 2 and portal fibrosis that is stage 1?


Grades are arabic such as 1 or 2.
Subject: Grades are arabic such as 1 or 2.

Stages are roman numerals.
grades are arabic.
Subject: grades are arabic.


Grades are arabic.
Subject: Grades are arabic.

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I have sticky notes everywhere with different stages, grades, etc. sm
Subject: I have sticky notes everywhere with different stages, grades, etc. sm

I think I used to think most stages were roman numerals and most grades were arabic but there are way too many exceptions so I try to figure out which one it is for each specific instance and then write it on my growing list.  BOS says types are arabic, roman numerals, or capital letters depending on type referred to. I WISH there was a website with all of the different stages, grades, types, etc. listed.  Does anyone know of such a thing?? 
Grade 2 (arabic for grades)
Subject: Grade 2 (arabic for grades)


That's what I said: Stages = Roman. ???
Subject: That's what I said: Stages = Roman. ???

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grade 4. All grades are arabic. Fractures and
Subject: grade 4. All grades are arabic. Fractures and

stages are Roman numerals.
Arabic numerals.
Subject: Arabic numerals.

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Use arabic numerals for all numbers.
Subject: Use arabic numerals for all numbers.

The current standard in transcription is to use arabic numerals (1, 2, 3...)for all numbers, even under the number 10, because they stand out on the page and are less likely to be overlooked or misinterpreted.
(BOS 3rd)
roman versus arabic
Subject: roman versus arabic

Does anyone have a good reference or way to remember when to use arabic versus roman numerals?  Specifically for class, stage, grade - cardiac, oncology, podiatry?
roman versus arabic
Subject: roman versus arabic

A good tip that I rcvd either here or on MTNetizens email group.....

In oncology at least:
Staging is in Roman numerals, and remember by reciting "The Romans are on the stage"....
Hence stage III breast cancer, etcetera...
Class, grade, etc, are with Arabic numerals...

I cannot speak, though, for other specialties..

Have always seen it as Roman numerals. nm
Subject: Have always seen it as Roman numerals. nm


Used to be roman numerals, now it is 2/6.
Subject: Used to be roman numerals, now it is 2/6.

NP does not know transcription rules.
grade would be arabic, type would be roman.
Subject: grade would be arabic, type would be roman.

Garden is capped per my ortho book.

From googling I suspect it should be Garden type IV fracture. There are hits where it is referred to as grade, but the ones that call it a type look more authentic to me. More research might be in order.
Roman numerals not used much today...nm
Subject: Roman numerals not used much today...nm

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I've always used Roman Numerals.
Subject: I've always used Roman Numerals.

A good example are Salter-Harris fracture values which are always Roman Numerals.


I believe the type is in Roman numerals II nm
Subject: I believe the type is in Roman numerals II nm

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Through Wheeless it would be Roman numerals.
Subject: Through Wheeless it would be Roman numerals.


When I started, it was Roman Numerals
Subject: When I started, it was Roman Numerals

That was 30 years ago. Now they prefer Arabic numerals. I was rather disappointed; it was one of the few times you could trot out Roman numerals!

Certain conditions, etc. still use roman numerals
Subject: Certain conditions, etc. still use roman numerals

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Factors are written in roman numerals
Subject: Factors are written in roman numerals

I found this on google and in Vera Pyle's Current Medical Terminology. This is a great book. I have found a lot in here.
Schatzker II fracture (Roman numerals for this)
Subject: Schatzker II fracture (Roman numerals for this)

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TIMI III (roman numerals) flow.......nm
Subject: TIMI III (roman numerals) flow.......nm

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Cranial nerves are roman numerals II-XII. (nm)
Subject: Cranial nerves are roman numerals II-XII. (nm)

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aren't leads in Roman numerals?
Subject: aren't leads in Roman numerals?

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Stedman's says Roman numerals, such as Gravida I
Subject: Stedman's says Roman numerals, such as Gravida I


heart murmur with roman numerals?
Subject: heart murmur with roman numerals?

I have always typed heart murmur (ex: 2/6 ejection murmur).  However, I have a new NP who states it using roman numerals (II/VI ejection murmur).  Which is correct?  Thanks!
Not sure, but cranial nerves are Roman numerals.
Subject: Not sure, but cranial nerves are Roman numerals.

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leads = Roman numerals if I remember correctly
Subject: leads = Roman numerals if I remember correctly


Standard leads are typically denoted by roman numerals.
Subject: Standard leads are typically denoted by roman numerals.


A search of several web sites shows staging with numbers, not Roman numerals. nm
Subject: A search of several web sites shows staging with numbers, not Roman numerals. nm

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All data that I can find on ECT leads (not EKG leads) are in arabic numerals.
Subject: All data that I can find on ECT leads (not EKG leads) are in arabic numerals.


FIGO staging is typed using roman numerals, such as FIGO I, II, etc., see inside.
Subject: FIGO staging is typed using roman numerals, such as FIGO I, II, etc., see inside.

Table 2: Carcinoma of the Vulva – Stage grouping
FIGO UICC
Stage T N M
0 Tis N0 M0
IA T1A N0 M0
IB T1B N0 M0
II T2 N0 M0
III T1 N1 M0
T2 N1 M0
T3 N1 M0
IVA T1 N2 M0
T2 N2 M0
T3 N2 M0
T4 Any N M0
IVB Any T Any N M1
1.1.2.3 Histopathologic types.
Squamous cell carcinoma is the most frequent form of cancer of the
vulva. Malignant melanoma is the second most common tumour and
should be reported separately. Other histopathologic types are:
– adenocarcinoma underlying Paget’s disease of vulva, verrucous
carcinoma, Bartholin gland carcinoma, adenocarcinoma not otherwise
specified (NOS), basal cell carcinoma.
• Histopathologic grades (G).
• Gx – Grade cannot be assessed;
• Gl – Well-differentiated;
• G2 – Moderately differentiated;
• G3 – Poorly or undifferentiated.

www.figo.org/docs/staging_booklet.pdf