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compound modifiers preceding the subject

Posted By: s.tate on 2008-11-05
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Subject: compound modifiers preceding the subject

When the following phrase is dictated:


"He is a well nourished appearing patient,"


What is the most appropriate transcript format? With, or without hyphens? One of our staff Doc.s keeps dictating this phrase and we are stumped. Of course, this one phrase does not appear to be in BOS!


Thanks for your help!




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Compound modifiers (small to moderate amount vs. small-to-moderate amount...sm
Subject: Compound modifiers (small to moderate amount vs. small-to-moderate amount...sm

I'm stumped and probably should really know this, but can anyone tell me why small to moderate amount is not hyphenated? Why it does not meet the criteria for a compound modifier?
Thats how I've done modifiers - not sure if I am correct though
Subject: Thats how I've done modifiers - not sure if I am correct though


no hypens needed as they're not modifiers. Take them all out. nm
Subject: no hypens needed as they're not modifiers. Take them all out. nm

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What are the words preceding and following your S/L? nm
Subject: What are the words preceding and following your S/L? nm

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with or without the preceding apostrophe
Subject: with or without the preceding apostrophe

Excerpts from Webster's:

Main Entry: 1-s

-- used to form the plural of most nouns that do not end in s, z, sh, ch, or postconsonantal y , to form the plural of proper nouns that end in postconsonantal y , and with or without a preceding apostrophe to form the plural of abbreviations, numbers, letters, and symbols used as nouns <4s> <$s>
Not sure about that part, but it is preceding.
Subject: Not sure about that part, but it is preceding.

nm
Could you please give the preceding and following sentence
Subject: Could you please give the preceding and following sentence

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preceding symptoms such as visual disturbance, s/l comoda.
Subject: preceding symptoms such as visual disturbance, s/l comoda.


yes, those are both compound adjectives (nm)
Subject: yes, those are both compound adjectives (nm)


compound modifier.....sm
Subject: compound modifier.....sm

Not all words that are placed in front of a noun are compound adjectives or compound modifier and need a hyphen.
This would be too easy!
You hyphenate when it is a compound modifier sm
Subject: You hyphenate when it is a compound modifier sm

I know that MT50 says when it is an adjective and she is right, but I think it is better to give you the compound modifier rule instead.

You hyphenate before the noun in the sentence, but not after.

So...I used an 18-gauge needle.
But no hyphen after the noun...The needle I used was 18 gauge.

Well-preserved left ventricular function.
Left ventricular function was well preserved.

Well, gauge, appearing and there are others that you will frequently see as part of a compound modifiers, so that is a clue too for whether you are seeing one or not.

To be honest, hyphens do not actually change the meaning of the sentence, or at least very rarely do they change the meaning. It is just that right is right and we have to be right. Knowing how to use them properly makes you look good.
couldn't find compound but
Subject: couldn't find compound but

after reading the above discussion did find neural and the following statement in my office's edition of Stedman's Med Dict.


Avoid forming incorrect compounds, such as neuroformamina instead of n. foramina.


I've been doing it wrong all along.  Thanks for helping me clear this up.


Since ipsi- means same, maybe is it just a compound word. nm
Subject: Since ipsi- means same, maybe is it just a compound word. nm


pleural form of compound nouns
Subject: pleural form of compound nouns

the pleural form of noun phrases is generally to pleuralize the first component and leave the second component singular, e.g. statues of liberty, bills of lading, and - extrapolating - globi pallidus... note, this is merely speculation.
Also when used as a compound modifier describing a noun or pronoun, it is follow-up - sm
Subject: Also when used as a compound modifier describing a noun or pronoun, it is follow-up - sm

For example, follow-up MRI or follow-up examination. I hope this helps you!
only hyphenate when used as a compound modified, like beta-blocker therapy, but if
Subject: only hyphenate when used as a compound modified, like beta-blocker therapy, but if

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Subject: could it be a compound solution using both Oxy and Stanford Mouthwash combined, e.g. "Oxy-Stanford Mouthwash?... nm


What does *S* mean in your subject line? nm
Subject: What does *S* mean in your subject line? nm

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write it just like you have it in subject
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If all that is there is the subject line,
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then that is all there is. They did not write anything else.
Subject: DTAD??
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don't know your subject matter but probably "biestrogen"...nm
Subject: don't know your subject matter but probably "biestrogen"...nm

nm
always speculating way off the subject...sheesh. nm
Subject: always speculating way off the subject...sheesh. nm

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see post below - one subject, many replies...nm
Subject: see post below - one subject, many replies...nm


Okay, the subject line looks perverted
Subject: Okay, the subject line looks perverted

so I had to post again to so that would not be the first thing people see when coming to this board. LOL
not sure what your subject line meant but
Subject: not sure what your subject line meant but

I have one account in particular which states "omit sincerely even if dictator states sincerely"
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DIAGNOSTIC STUDIES: AP, lateral and oblique of the left ankle was/were obtained in our office.

I know this is very basic but I also type it as "were" and the spell check always wants me to change it to "was" and now on my last report my manager changed it to "was".

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See inside for what the AAMT BOS says on the subject. sm
Subject: See inside for what the AAMT BOS says on the subject. sm

RBC, rbc -  RBC is preferred abbreviation for red blood count; rbc for red blood cells.


WBC, wbc - WBC is preferred abbreviation for white blood count; wbc for white blood cells.


The way I remember it is WBC for whenever they are giving like CBC result; wbc for urine or CSF results. 


I used to have a big problem with this, but I finally got it! :)


 


 


Percocet is very subject to abuse, so probably correct.
Subject: Percocet is very subject to abuse, so probably correct.


Post S/L directly in the subject line
Subject: Post S/L directly in the subject line


all I could find relating to this subject was dysarthria. nm
Subject: all I could find relating to this subject was dysarthria. nm

nm
we're not talking about that; wrong subject.
Subject: we're not talking about that; wrong subject.

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Was completed. Remainder is the subject here and is singular not pleural. nm
Subject: Was completed. Remainder is the subject here and is singular not pleural. nm

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I'm sorry I wasn't more help. I saw your subject line and didn't read further
Subject: I'm sorry I wasn't more help. I saw your subject line and didn't read further


Lying is correct in this case. Laying takes a subject, sm
Subject: Lying is correct in this case. Laying takes a subject, sm

Laying is correct if she is laying an egg or laying a baby down for a nap. If you recline, you are lying. Sounds like a insult, doesn't it, like she isn't telling the truth.
If you goggle bihemispheric, there is a huge amount of information on the subject.
Subject: If you goggle bihemispheric, there is a huge amount of information on the subject.


Give us hint in the subject line, rather posting every message
Subject: Give us hint in the subject line, rather posting every message

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#50 French (alone) #50-French (preceding a noun)
Subject: #50 French (alone) #50-French (preceding a noun)

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