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I must DISAGREE. I get paid for spaces!!! (nm)

Posted By: VA/MT on 2009-08-17
In Reply to: Spaces at K&R - Catgrrl75




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So, if not spaces paid, what cpl would be comparable to at least 9 cpl w/spaces, do you know??
Thanks.
I have to say I disagree. QA is not paid to find faults with your report. sm
QA is paid to make sure the report is as close to 100% correct before the client sees it. However, I truly agree with you that anyone on QA hold for more than a month is beyond ridiculous. Where I work, I have seen people on hold for more than a month but it was truly because of poor transcription work and has nothing at all to do with the QA people.
Disagree with this. Every company I've worked for paid for normals.
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paid for spaces
you can bet the companies are charging for spaces; and the buck stops where? not here, anyway.
Cy/Med and No spaces being paid!
MTS:  I applied and passed Cy/Med - they tell me they have over 600 people working for them - why are so many MTs out there working for companies that do not pay for spaces - to get 600 lines you have to work at least 20% longer - why are you working for no spaces - I am told that many clients are doing this now - this is really going backwards in the MT business I think - Your comments please!
We do get paid for spaces. sm
Employee handbook states 65-character line, including spaces and all characters necessary to create the document.  You must be mistaking Webmedx for another company?
You are not getting paid for spaces.
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Do you know if we are paid for spaces?

Yes we get paid for spaces.
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Getting paid for spaces versus not...
any good or bad experiences? Thanks
A post from May said they paid 7 cpl with NO spaces. That's all I have. nm
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YOU ARE WRONG!! We are paid for spaces. nm
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OP did not ASK if paid spaces, SAID didnt. Re your
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This is current, no spaces paid for

 


A response to my inquiry.  Not for me, we make nothing as is or what we should. 


 RE: MTJobs Probity Penn.





The line is a 65 character black and white line.


The line rates vary from 8 to 9 cents per line and will be discussed if you are granted an interview. 


Yes, not being paid for spaces would reduce your pay A LOT!
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Spaces, paid or not paid. Do you know? sm
I just started with a company and when I asked specifically if I would be paid for spaces, they said yes.  When I started using their program I noticed that the line count for each job did not include spaces.  I checked it with more than one program.  I called them and they said there was a glitch in the program that would be fixed.  It has been almost two months now and that glitch is still not fixed.  My checks do not include spaces either.  No one at the company knows what is up.  I can't believe I am the only one at this company who has deduced that they are not paying for spaces.  So, do you check your line counts to see if spaces are included?  You might be in for a surprise.  Man, I am tired of being burned when I am a reliable and honest IC.  Maybe time to do something else.  Thanks for listening.
What I meant by "making up" for not being paid for spaces was this.
I've been paid for spaces before but have had awful software (ex. - unable to refer to past reports, being down constantly, etc.) as well as no work situations and no pay for headers, footers, etc. Also, I've been assured of not running out of work. Based on the above, I accepted the position. Of course, if things aren't as described, I'll certainly look elsewhere. Other than the no spaces, everything sounds great - soo, gotta give it a try!
Yes I am happy, tho I'd be happier if I got paid for spaces - sm
I am very lucky I guess to have a good steady IC job, have about 22 hr TAT and take as little or as much work as I want (with notice). No minimums and can work whatever hours I want. Just have to finish all the work I am given whether it is 30 minutes or 90 minutes by the following mid-afternoon. Except for not being paid for spaces (I lose about $200-$300 a month due to this), it is very good and as close to perfect that you can get.
I just asked. We do get paid for spaces. If QA said that, they are wrong.
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Still need help on figuring what would be a good cpl if paid w/o spaces.
See my first message above. Thanks
Probably not getting paid for headers, footers, or spaces. Do you get
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In orig. post; she did not ASk if paid for spaces.
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Are you paid extra to compensate for no spaces?
I just went back to my old job, because they are compensating per line the amount I would have made with spaces. In other words, I get 8.4 c with spaces, and between 9 and 10 cpl without spaces. If you are compensated with cents per line, the only difference is how you would react psychologically to seeing the low line totals at the end of the period. I had a time adjusting to this, but just remember 7500 lines without spaces equals approximately 10,600 lines with spaces. So you are not typing poorly, you are on target and if you are paid the extra amount then all is fair. It is how the client would charge, I assume. Talk to the people who offered you the job to double-check, but when I cleared this up, my misconceptions regarding lower line counts with no spaces, and productivity with the difference in cpl, I happily returned to my original company on an account that did not count spaces. Good luck on whatever you decide! :)
Wasn't somebody asking about Probity?? NO SPACES PAID sm

Don't pay for spaces.


 


Subject: RE: MT jobs ad (Probity Pennsylvania)




0.08 and 0.09 cents per line.... somewhere between there.


 65 character black and white line. 


(black and white means pay only what shows up on the paper as black letters on white paper)


Paid for spaces depends on the account. Good company. nm
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Hired by Cymed and told they did not pay for spaces, but paid for headers and footers. Just did a

check on the line count, and not only do they not pay for headers and footers, they also pay for 2 lines less than I typed.


I agree, if you went to work knowing full well that the company paid 7 cpl no spaces
why on Earth did you accept the job?
If Ichart deducts 8% from ExText line counts, you are actually not getting paid for spaces

It is the equivalent of a 70.2 character line with spaces, 65  characters without spaces. 


Wonderful company, but you type letters and look up addresses and you do not get paid for spaces nm
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This is not true. I have been there a month and get a good line rate and paid for spaces. ??? nm
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Yeah, be careful. I worked for MTSO that "said" they paid for spaces. I had to work really S

hard for my lines.  Took a second job part-time with hospital, same platform (EXText), same font size, etc. and did the same amount of lines in half the time.  Decided to look closer at the MTSO and found out they weren't counting spaces.  I confronted them and all of sudden.  Got lots of apologies and will add to your next paycheck.  Long story short, never happened and I never had any work after that. 


There are a lot of unscrupulous MTSOs out there.  They lie, cheat, and steal!


I think most places pay for spaces. I work for TransTech and they pay for both spaces
as well as punctuation. I would never work for an MTSO that doesn't.
65 with spaces versus 65 without spaces; how to calculate?

Can someone tell me if you are getting 9 cents per 65-character line with spaces how much you would need to be paid per line to make the same amount per line if you are offered a ''65-character line without spaces?''  Thank you very much


All compaines count lines different--with spaces, without spaces, headers or no headers, 65 characte
a line, 75 characters, etc. I would ask each of them how they count their lines. Sometimes the way lines are counted does not make a company worth working for.
Training on the system, not paid, but if you are physically typing reports then you are getting paid
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Oh, yea -- PAID, too. Grandmother PAID LEAVE would be a great drawing card to TT !!

Just love that PAID TIME OFF !!


54 without spaces = 65 with spaces if you do the math nm
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Any company that makes you wait to get paid until they get paid by the client
is not a company you want to get involved with. That's part of being an MTSO, figuring out how to cover your payroll while waiting to get paid. I would stay away!
Is this a live count of lines paid for or same as CTRL I that we do not get paid for ?? nm
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Me too.. the outsourced company was paid for and paid me for headers, but OSI does/did not.
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I have always paid yearly and have never paid or been assessed a penaltly. nm
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Be glad you get paid tomorrow. We are paid on the 1st and the 15th, so sm
since the 1st is on a weekend, we don't get paid until Monday.  It will happen again on the 15th of August …sigh.  It is the only thing I do not like about the company, though, so I guess a few weekends of poverty a year is not too much. 
Lori never paid me and now ETC has not paid my friend.
What is WRONG with these companies?    
Is it still being paid on time if you are paid on the 1st and 15th.....
and if the 15th falls on a Saturday getting paid on the 17th?  My bank is open and posts on Saturday that means I am not being paid on the 15th doesn't?  This has happened a lot lately. 
At least you get paid, I would rather be paid late than not at all. Just my 2 cents.
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Yea, at least u got paid. Everyone who worked for TSI is STILL waiting to be paid

I don't understand how Jayne cannot pay us.  We have christmas coming up.  I bet her family has a fantastic Christmas because she is using OUR money to pay for it.  I worked so hard for her and I know the other girls did too.  How insulting that she will not return phone calls or emails or PAY us.  How does she look at herself in the mirror knowing that the MTs who did all the work FOR her did not get paid.  She even sent me an email saying I give you my word HAHAHA her word is nothing, obviously.  Well, I will call the attorney for the THIRD time and see what is going on. 


To the poster, at least you got paid even if it was late.  I sincerely hope you get your last check.


I disagree with you......sm
I've been working with them since July and have not had any problems with communication or having work available, and I'm an employee. 
Have to disagree

I am a hospital employee.  I like the platform, it is basically word.  I am making more lines here than I ever have anywhere else.  I only work on one account.  The equipment is fine, brand new Dell with flat screen.  No problems in particular with supervisors or QA.  Hospital can be picky about things, but it is the hospital, not DK.  Benefits are great through the hospital, very affordable.  


DK is no worse than anywhere else, you just have to find what is best for you.  They are working fine for me  


I disagree with you. sm

I have to say that the reason companies are offshoring is not completely their fault.  US MTs, over the  years, have gotten to where they want to make more and more money so that they have to produce less and less work every day. 


Any talented MT should be able to produce 1500 lines (accurately) in an 8-hour period.  At a rate of 0.075 cpl, this would total $112.50, which works out to 14.00 per hour.  If you want to earn more than that, you work extra to do so.  There are people coming out of college with degrees that do not start out at a wage like that and don't make that until they have many, many years experience in their field.  This would be though in an average area.


By asking for exorbitant wages, which you could also earn by increasing your line count and working just a bit harder, we are forcing companies to have to look at offshoring more and more work.  Yes they work cheaper over there.  However, they also don't mind working harder and doing everything possible to increase their line count.


Another issue bringing our wages down is the fact that now an Editor is used.  This has come about simply because the MTs that are coming into this business are not adequately trained.  Therefore, an extra cost associated with the higher wages.  The same editor can be used but editing India work and the company will make a better profit and turnaround times are much better.


I do feel that MTSOs should look at the cost of living of different areas and also pay MTs accordingly as any other job would.  For instance, an secretary in some parts of Texas start out at 6.50 per hour; however, a secretary in New York may start at 17 or more per hour.  This is an issue that has never been addressed by an MTSO and I am sure never will be.


Over the last several years, many schools have developed that teach MT.  However, they are not producing quality MTs.  To make it in this business and earn the big bucks, you have to have speed and accuracy.  You have to be able to remember medical terms.  Most of all, however, if you cannot produce 200-250 lines per hour minimum, you might should consider a new job.  This is a production job and if you can't produce, it is not the job for you. 


For those of you experiencing out of work problems, easy solution... find another company to work for/with.  There are too many out there, so don't waste precious time.  Find one.


 


 


Well, I disagree with YOU !
Here is your statement -Over the last several years, many schools have developed that teach MT. However, they are not producing quality MTs. To make it in this business and earn the big bucks, you have to have speed and accuracy. You have to be able to remember medical terms. Most of all, however, if you cannot produce 200-250 lines per hour minimum, you might should consider a new job. This is a production job and if you can't produce, it is not the job for you.
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Now, I am taking issue with this type of noncaring type attitude to those of us who are 50 and older, have a lot of physical problems, but you know what, I might not produce 220 lines/hour, but I do type 70-90 wpm, but I find I can only type for four hours, then have to stop, and then restart later on to finish up. Up to now, I have found employers out there who do understand this, and as long as I get my quota in for the day, they and I do not see anything wrong with doing the work this way. Well, you had your say, now, I had mine. Why don't YOU get to work, and stop chewing-out us other hard-working MTs, and there are quite a few of us left! I stack my medical terminology memory next to a doctor's, so there you have it, and I just could not sit by and read your comments without having some of my own to stick up for those us in my situation.
I disagree with you.

I disagree with you on a number of points.


 


First of all, as was pointed out by another poster, 1500 lines in 8 hours depends totally on the accounts and dictators you transcribe.  I have an (occasional) account where I can transcribe 400-500 lines an hour, and that, obviously, is due to the template.  I have another account on another job where I can only transcribe 120-140 lines an hour.  That isn’t due to my failings but due to the slowness of the company-provided computer and their platform.  When transcribing another dictator, I can usually transcribe 250-275 LPH.  The main reason I can do this is because I get this dictator all the time, have had the opportunity to become accustomed to his style of dictation and can make shortcuts based on his particular consistent phrasing of sentences.  If a person transcribes for more than 100 different dictators, the Transcriptionist never has the opportunity to become familiar with the dictator.  There are many variables in how many lines someone can transcribe per hour, and they don’t always involve the skill level or competency of the transcriptionist.


 


I also take issue with the fact that people coming out of college with degrees earning less.  Who cares?  Why should MTs who have been in this business for 20-30 years suffer just because kids who graduate from college make less money?  I’m sure most of these seasoned MTs would tell you that they made much more money 10 or even 15 years ago than they do today.  They are hanging in there with a deteriorating industry, just trying to make a living wage.


 


I especially disagree with paying transcriptionists different rates based on where they live.  Often that is the only recourse for those of us who have the ability to relocate to economically impoverished areas, just to keep up with steadily declining wages in the MT industry because we love this kind of work.


 


Although I agree that speed used to be a very important of a transcriptionist’s job, I also believe that with the evolution of VR, the need for typing speed in a transcriptionist is obviously going to diminish since it is no longer required.  Combine that lack of skill with the new graduates you mention who are basically clueless, and a whole new generation of incompetence is being created, leaving the more experienced, seasoned MTs out in the cold.


 


I personally am going to remain with the smaller companies, as I believe when it is all said and done, they are the ones that truly care about quality, and they may be the only ones left after all the big nationals outsource themselves into extinction through their new quantity versus quality standards.  They are also the ones who are less likely to cut the throats of their loyal, highly-skilled employees.