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A vet could determine if poisoned or heat stroke.

Posted By: nm on 2007-07-05
In Reply to: Update on dog from below sm - mlstoo

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Yeah, poisoned by the owners, the sun and heat - sm
what total i*d*i*o*t*s - don't they know an autopsy will prove them wrong. I hope they owners both get locked up and heavily fined to boot. My own dogs are out a lot but I am home and when it is too hot they are in. Neither has ever had heatstroke. They have plenty of shade (they go under the deck sometimes and lay in the dirt, nice and cool down there) and water when they are outside. My neighbor has a boxer and has to be real careful with her dog, she has had one attack of heatstroke already this summer. Luckily she knows what to do as it happened once last summer; but it comes on very quick with boxers since they have such short snouts. Let us know what happens to the owners.
heat stroke
Treatments
Heat stroke occurs when a pet has an extremely high body temperature, usually more than 41 degrees C (106 degrees F). Signs include rapid panting, warm dry skin, bright red gums, vomiting, and an anxious expression or staring appearance. Collapse, coma and death follow shortly thereafter. An animal with heat stroke must have its body temperature reduced quickly. Most effective is immediate immersion in a cold water. If unavailable, hosing it down with a garden hose may be effective. Ice packs should not be used because overcooling often occurs. The skin should be massaged gently, and the legs flexed frequently to encourage blood circulation. While this is being done, it is essential that the pet be transported to a veterinary hospital as quickly as possible.
Heat stroke can occur surprisingly fast, even when animals are left for only short periods of time in cars with the windows partially rolled down. Since prevention still remains the best alternative, animals are best not left alone in unattended cars or in a yard without shade and water in warm weather.
http://www.animalhospitals-usa.com/dogs/heat_stroke.html
Is fireplace on same floor you want to heat? The heat will rise up from a lower level unless you
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Amicable? Only you could determine that since you know his temperament, etc. sm
No one knows but you how you think he will react.

I don't think we should give up on our spouses due to alcoholism, in my opinion. He needs help. But, he needs to want him and I understand that. Can you sit him down, look him in the eye, tell him how much you love him (or don't you?) and beg for him to change and get help and then you would consider staying? Maybe it will take that and unconditional love instead of, and I quote, being a miserable "bit**." Maybe that is why he is drinnking. I'm sorry to have to say that.

I would stay focused on helping your husband get the help he needs. Your kids will love you for it in the end and he will too if he comes clean. don't give up hope. Don't give up on him yet. I'm all for making it work with all you've got. I was in a miserable marriage until I took action and he changed completely. We couldn't be happier. It takes a strong woman and not many can do it or stomach it because it's so easy to give up. Good luck.
Zoey movie will probably determine it

There's a movie coming on Nick with her staring (Goodbye Zoey?) and I think the ending of that movie will really determine whether they are staying on the air or not. That's probably why they won't say for sure, holding suspense!
My cat is in the ICU due to poisoned food.
My cat is in the hospital with an IV due to kidney failure.  I have tried twice to call Menu Foods to find out about filing a claim to cover the vet bill, but no one has called back.  My poor cat is the innocent and has to suffer at the hands of whoever put the poison in the wheat gluten.  Has anyone who is experiencing this with their pet been able to get through?  I'm heartbroken that I may lose her.  Even though I have two dogs, the house seems lonely. 
Poisoned Food
My heart aches for you. I hope your cat pulls through and you get the vet bills paid by the people responsible. This is just horrible. I am lucky, my furkid didn't eat any of the brands that were in question. I was so scared until I had gone over the list. We rescued our baby girl 4 years ago and she is like the baby of our home now. We think of her as one of our children (she acts like one of our children) I don't know what in the world I would do if we lost her. I would be sick. You will be in my prayers. I pray it the outcome is good. Bless the furry ones. :)
My dad had a stroke at age 46 - sm
He is like your dad. Stubborn!

My mother finally convinced him to let her call 911 and they took him to the hospital. He had multiple small strokes and then a larger one. Sounds very much like your dad.

Dad spent about 1 week in the hospital then 3 weeks in a rehabilitation center. Following that, he spent about 6 months at home after having bilateral carotid endarterectomy and then also doing physical therapy on an outpatient basis 1 to 2 times a week (if we could get him to go.)

This was 15 years ago. My dad went back to driving truck and is doing pretty well.

He still needs to be reminded to take his medications so he doesn't go through this again.

There is hope. Just keep encouraging him.

P.S. My dad was never one for gadgets and video games but when the therapist recommended having him play video games to stimulate hand-eye coordination, it made his recovery a bit more tolerable for him and helped him a lot too.
Anyone else with cat who has had a stroke?
Know lots of you off on the weekend so trying to post during week. I am sure my older girl had a stroke- has been blinded and cannot hear- took her to veterinarian Monday and he gave her shot of penicillin and cortisone. Her walking is not so staggered now but still has not recovered (and she may never, know this) the sight nor the hearing. I thought she was dying the other day but apparently this was what was going on. Bad mother!! I did not even know until later. She wanders around aimlessly but now is resting ok and her appetite is strong. Have any of you had similar situation with your cat and if so, did their senses return?  I do not feel she is in pain, not willing to put her to sleep, not an option at this time.
Well, I think she might be upset enough to stroke out or something (sm)
That's good enough for me!
You need to lighten up before you have a stroke - nm
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Think my older girl cat had a stroke
I posted about the strange behavior the other day with my cat. I now think she probably had a stroke. She does not seem in pain but almost sure she has been blinded and when I call her, see no response with the ear motion that you see with cats listening. She does not come to me, another sign she is not hearing. She and I have spent a lot of time together since the other day with my holding her and telling her how much I love her. I will be at the vet's office the first thing in the morning. Putting her down is not an option right now for me because I do not feel she is in pain. She wanders around the house and circles things, staying close to the perimeter of the house. I have closed off doors and also made the house more cat safety, just as you would with a baby to make sure things are put up and out of the way for her. If I had to hand feed I would but she finds her food, her appetite is good and also put her liter box out of a room she had an obsticle in so now everything in the outer hall near the garage easier for her. I have read on the internet that cortisone sometimes helps in cat strokes, also sometimes the blindness may be temporary. What I want to know is has anyone else had a cat that they think may have had a stroke, if so the treatment, improvement and anything you can tell me. She is, like I said before, my older girl who was born at my home and has been around for a good long while and of course I love her dearly. I again am not thinking about putting her down, only if and when I thought she was in pain or just unable to cope with getting around, etc. Any thoughts you can give would be most appreciated. I will get back on board as soon as I can but now my #1 priority is for my much beloved older gal. Thanks!
Maybe he had some kind of a mini-stroke or something, and it

My 17 yo girl had a stroke and went blind - see inside
This kitty also had renal failure but had been doing great with supplemental fluids with potassium for a year. She got around the house just fine and continued doing her normal cat stuff for another week after the stroke. She was very happy and ate heartily during that week. She never lost an ounce or her will to keep going. At the beginning of the following week she seemed to be having problems breathing and, we believe, had suffered another stroke and could not get around well at all. We chose to let her go. :-( Talk with your vet and see what they recommend as far as supportive care. You know your cat better than anyone and will know when she has had enough. My heart goes out to you because the loss of any pet, especially one who has been with you a long time, is so very hard. Cherish your time with her and take pictures. Best wishes...
Dog in heat!

Now that I have your attention...


Actually, my dog really is in heat! This is her second time. She's still a pup at about 1-1/2 years old (Golden Retriever). The first time she went into heat it was summer and we could keep her mostly outside so as not to mess up the house. Wouldn't you know it, she went into heat right at the beginning of our rainstorm here (in California) that is supposed to last a few days. My question is, I know that there are doggy kotex pads you can strap on them, but do they really work? My dog loves to chew and she will tear apart a new dog toy in a matter of minutes. I don't want to waste my money if she is just going to chew the pad off. Anyone have any experience here?


AND DON'T USE HEAT!!!
Don't use heat on that area because you can't see what's going on in there. Not to scare you, but if that puppy is getting close to rupturing, I think the heat might make it even worse.

C'mon, go to the ER. A nasty case of perotinitis will keep you under the weather and out of work and be far more costly in the long-run than just going to the ER now.

I'm worried about you, and I'm sure many others of us are as well. PLEASE GO TO THE ER FOR THIS AND DO NOT PUT IT OFF.
97 here (GA) w/ heat index of 103
And I have a ham on! I meant I wanted that ham! I did put it in a counter top GE roaster, which gets just as hot but I have the vent on and can't tell a difference.
Do you wonder if this heat will ever resolve? sm
We sure could use a good, soaking rain storm.
I would think heat, but I'm certainly not an expert
Nerve pain I think does better with heat. When I broke my foot and had nerve damage, I couldn't even touch my foot with ice. I haven't had a toothache in a long time (knock on wood), but my guess would be heat.
You want it surrounded by heat, sm
not close to heat source.  That would scorch the bottom.  Middle rack.
A woodstove is all we have for heat too.

I just love that silly little thing.  NOTHING takes the chill out of the bones better.  We would be so screwed without it--oil is officially out of our budget and haven't filled the tank in over 2 years now.  In fact, most people around here heat with wood in some form or another...either wood stoves, pellet stoves, or outdoor wood boilers.  I'm looking forward to getting 2 more cords of firewood tomorrow that will need prompt stacking before more snow hits. Yep, wood...warms ya at least twice! 


Lots of people cook on them using dutch ovens.  I've heard fantastic stories of people who cook baked beans and stews/potroasts all day on them...imagine coming home to a hot meal like that!  Mmmm....  I've personally never tried it because I don't have anyone to show me how.  I think it's an artform that has to be handed down through the generations or something.


The heat of anger...
Some people just get so angry that they say what comes to the top of their head at the time, true or not. Others lose their ability to empathise in anger. Either of those, I can deal with (so long as it stays verbal only), and that's what DD experiences when she's "losing it". As I said, she has some pretty serious PTSD issues to deal with, so we may or may not put up with it if they weren't there. They are, so I don't know the other side of the coin. We can also joke around with things that might hurt feelings or be embarrasing, so long as they are not done in an attempt to hurt those feelings (sometimes the truth DOES hurt). Even with her issues, we do not tolerate being cruel and hurtful just to be cruel and hurtful or anything physical beyond slamming doors, and there is a numerical limit to how many, and if the pictures rattle, it's too hard. We also have a hard and fast rule that all people are allowed to "respond in kind" because none of us are superhuman, especially when angry.

Personally, I think the world was a better place when we weren't so concerned about hurting somebody's feelings - back when we could hold a normal and sometimes emotional conversation about differing viewpoints. Of course, that was back when people were responsible for their own feelings instead of making everybody else responsible for them.
My 2 females were in heat last week
and were jumping on each others backs and what is worse is they are mother and daughter!
why pay for him to have heat, bed, shower, food.
nm
Heat or cold for a toothache?

Advil isn't working much anymore.  Heat or cold to the outside?  It's going to be a long weekend.


Heat for outdoor pets? Anyone know? (sm)
We have two outdoor dogs and I want to be able to keep them warm at night - if we bring them inside in their crates they cry all night - and if we let them loose they go wild in the house.  They love to run and play outside all day and are very loving and friendly and happy - but not indoor types of dogs.  We have a barn they can go in at night but I still would like some type of heat for them.  I am afraid they might chew the electrical heated mats.  Anyone have ideas?  Thanks
We live in Michigan and we keep our heat set at 68. sm
I live in Michigan and it gets COLD!!!. Not as cold as Wyoming, but I swear, sometimes....lol.

The only time the heat gets turned up any higher than 70 is on bath night. Then we also have a little propane heater we got from our local surplus store that helps in the bathroom.

In my office upstairs, I have an old heat lamp from our turtle tank that has a clamp type base and I have that clamped to the shelf over my keyboard. I have it aimed so it hits my hands and helps keep them warm. I figure if it works for our turtle, it will work for me. LOL.

We dress in layers too, even the 12 yo son. DH has some problems as he is diabetic, but Eddie Bauer Ragg wool socks are worth every penny you pay for them.

We do the plastic on the windows and we also spent some big bucks on plexi-glass and got two 45 x 64 pieces for our DR and KIT. We hold them in with double faced tape and then seal them with the same kind of tape they use on ductwork for trailers and RV's.

I agree with other posters too, get your thyroid checked. My doc told me that was one of the reasons for people being cold all the time.

Good luck.
I am on my way to Phoenix AZ for the weekend, cant wait for sun and heat


at 5 p.m. it was 107 degrees before the heat index where I live in NC
NM
45 here; heat on or windows open today? (nm)

I have a Eureka Atlantis Opt-Heat and love it...sm
we have 3 dogs and a cat that live in the carpeted area of the house, as well as 4 people in the house, so I'm sure you can imagine the beating our carpet takes. I love this carpet cleaner because it has an easily removable plate over where the yucky water, animal hairs, etc. is sucked up and it's easy to clear it. Prior to this unit I had a Bissel heat steam cleaner that worked great except it would jam easily with pet hair and was harder to clean the jams between the layers of the cleaner. My sister now has that cleaner as they only have 1 small dog so the pet hairs aren't a major problem for them to deal with.

The unit I have sells at Walmart for $136 online is what I'm seeing now. It also has a collapsable handle which makes it easy to store.

Consumer Reports a few months ago rated the home carpet shampooers and found that they usually do as good if not better than RugDoctor or professional cleaners. If you have stains on your carpet there are pre-treaters you can use and oftentimes get them up, depending on how long the stain has been there and what the stain is. If I ever got a significant stain on my carpet I would call the pros so they could work it out with their high powered chemicals.

We clean our carpets every other month and it's amazing the dirt the cleaners pull out of the carpet. We vacuum every couple of days but that never gets as deep as the crud gets from everyday walking on it.

Another beauty of buying a carpet cleaner is the cost. After using it about 3-4 times it's paid for itself when you look at the rental fees for other cleaners, or what the cost of having a professional come out once runs.
To Backward Typist regarding Heat Surge
You wanted me to post when I got my first electric bill after having the heater. It was used for the full month of the billing cycle and my bill went down $10. I run it from around midnight until 8 or 9 am, sometimes I will run it more if I'm to lazy to start a fire and its not that cold outside.
We are having a heat wave today!! It's going to be 38 degrees!!! NM
nm
They like heat. Will tend to find warm place to
xx
so, you think we should reward them by paying for their bed, heat, water, food?
nm
Heat Surge electric fire place

I posted a few weeks ago about an article I saw for a Heat Surge electric fireplace with a wooden mantle built by the Amish.


Well I received it about 1.5 wks ago and I must say that it is absolutely beautiful!  It is virtually noiseless, I seriously cannot hear it running at all.  The brightness of the flame is adjustable and it has a low and a high heat setting.  Best of all, it works!  It does exactly what I had planned on and keeps the back of my house at a reasonable tempurature during the night so I do not have to worry about keeping the wood stove in the front going full blast all night.


The kids turned it on one evening when they were playing pool and they actually ended up turning it off because it got to warm.


So in my opinion, if you want something that is beautiful, well built, safe, and does provide more than enough heat for a room or two (mine is between the family room/kitchen which is all one long room) then it is absolutely worth the money.


Anyone in the PA area that has had a heat pump installed recently with Puron that can comment on
which brand they went with.  I cant find anything to compare reliable heat pumps for some reason.  Mine will need replacing soon and I dont want to deal with a lot of problems with the cost of heat pumps today.