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And it's not their fault you offend them.

Posted By: Moderator on 2008-04-11
In Reply to: And I thank you for being fair. - nm

But--this is another reason. It was very nicely explained, and yet the arguing continues. Sometimes you just need to state your opinion and move on. There are some you just won't win. Like this one--or the puppy mill one. Somtimes people just don't want to hear it, let alone hear it over and over again. Just step away from the situation.


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    I wrote them a letter all about my opinion of that site too!!! 


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    Really didn't mean to offend. DD's friend SM
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    There are strange names associated with various parts of the country.

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    He is 100% at fault.
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    nnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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    but that is not you daughters fault sm
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    I meant before now- you sound like it's my fault
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    It is not my fault others get offended at my opinions
    x
    maybe it's the post office fault.
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    That said...

    If a person who has been cheated on just sits and lets nature take its course, almost always they are vindicated.

    If Princess Diana had just let Charles be Charles, he would have become and STAYED the laughingstock of Britain. And she would have become Queen. (Okay, maybe not Queen, but she was then and is still an icon in Britain, and he would have never recovered from his cheating on her).

    In looking at the John Edwards scandal - it's very similar. Elizabeth never did anything wrong. If she continues on that path until her death, ultimately John Edwards will probably NEVER recover politically speaking.

    When you do the RIGHT thing instead of the convenient thing, you will ultimately be vindicated.
    I also disagree that it is never the woman's fault.
    I do not know what your circumstances are, but there are a lot of wives out there whose fault it is that their husbands leave them.

    There is something I would never, never do and this is cheating with a married man.
    This is downright despicable, ruining marriages.
    I say it's her mother's fault. Supposedly she was stage mom from
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    It was the OWNERS' fault for allowing the dog to run loose.
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    Nothing makes it the woman's fault - not even if she also cheats. sm
    Two wrongs don't make a right. Men need to act more like humans and less like animals, and keep themselves under control.
    On the subject of fault. Dont read if easily

    If my opinion upsets someone, I think it is their "fault" (for lack of a better word) if they get upset.  Everyone owns their own feelings and should not let someone else's opinion have so much power over how they feel.  As far as lemmings and masses, those are generalities, a comment on society as a whole, not aimed at any one person.


    I am sorry if my opinions have so much influence over others. I will try to keep my thoughts in check.


    It's not the worker's fault. She has to follow the rules or be fired. sm
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    Doesn't offend me to hear Happy Holidays, Happy Hannuka...sm
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    Merry Christmas to all.
    How is the school's fault if Johnny comes to school armed?
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