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But some of it He does allow to happen - my friend died (sm)

Posted By: Ella on 2007-08-17
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of lymphoma and left behind her six month old baby. She never had a single normal day with her child as she got sick during her pregnancy. Many of us prayed so hard. Maybe it was God's will for her to die, I don't know, and I know that we don't understand everything he allows. But he DOES ALLOW things. Her illness had nothing to do with people being evil. I am a Christian, as in I believe in God and Jesus, but I don't pretend to understand everything, because I really, really do not understand.


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the woman never did get to testify - she was found dead..........


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My son had this happen to him, as well--sm
and he did report it to the bank. however, he only got half of his money back (I don't know why) even though the woman who stole his cc# was caught. I had the same bank as he did and apparently they told him they would only reimburse half of the charges. To this day, he will not buy items on line.
me too but I don't think that's going to happen...sm

GOP-democratic ongoing battle will make it political, but if WE can resist all that.....it would be good.


Just as an aside, us older MTs...are really going to be the largest senior group ever.......in the USA - something like 70+ million - and we, politically, are a HUGE voice (in numbers)....so I still believe WE CAN change the world.......that we CAN make the difference.


just as I believed 40 years ago too.......


perhaps I'm deluded.....*winks*


sure hope not......



p.s.  please don't burst my bubble....


Did this happen already?
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Happen to be in
or is this something happening all over Indiana, thanks to our MITCH????
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You could have this happen to you sm

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