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I'm a child of the greatest generation.

Posted By: sm on 2007-09-27
In Reply to: Anybody hooked on the PBS War series? - Mimi

That's what we now call the generation that came through WWII. My dad had been a medic with the 82nd Airborne. He never talked about it much, but by studying history I knew what horrible fighting the 82nd endured. To see the pictures of those poor guys on last night's episode broke my heart. I even looked for my dad and cried a bit.
I grew up in a small town, a very close-knit community. All of the men my father's age had been in the war, my uncle, my dad, my friends' fathers. They were an amazing bunch of men. The others who were left at home told about life here in the US, the rationing, the stars hanging in windows, the terror of seeing the Western Union delivery man on his bike riding through town with the notices that loved ones were dead. Later, when I was in high school and college and studied the war, I'd ask my neighbors and family about what they knew back then, what did they know while it was actually going on. They never felt any animosity toward the government for withholding information. In their day, they didn't say the government lied to them.

You have to remember the context. This was a global war, people were sure that spies were everywhere, and in those days information was not immediate, as it is today. Why did the government not tell the American people how badly its fleet was damaged at Pearl Harbor? Because the Japanese were listening to the broadcasts, too. So by concentrating on the fact that carriers were not hit and were out to see at the time of the attack, the government was hoping more to mislead the Axis countries than our own, and to bolster the faith of the American people that we could win the war. Remember, the U.S. was not perceived to be a world power at that time. And, the war had been going on for several years before we were involved. We held a strong isolationist position while Hitler marched through Europe well before Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese.
Certainly, government secrecy would not be tolerated by the public today. That changed with Vietnam. News still traveled slowly in those days. It took two weeks for film to travel back to the U.S., be developed and broadcast. We received news very slowly in those days, and that gave the government more time to slant information. And today, the average person on the ground has access to mass communication. We can read blogs from Baghdad, listen to podcasts from around the world, and see news broadcasts from other countries via satellite.
Satellites, internet, cable technology have made the world smaller, and in a way, we can all "see" what's happening. The secrecy during WWII was meant to preserve the integrity of military intelligence. It was meant to keep up the morale of the American public, it was meant to mislead our enemies who were listening, just as we listened in on their broadcasts. It was definitely a different world in those days. And of course, I think the public was more forgiving of this secrecy, because in the end, we won the war. The lying that went on about Vietnam was such a different matter. The war went on for so long, and we weren't told how badly things were going. And with a mushy objective, eventually we were all fed up. The lies of the government were revealed. And of course there was Watergate. There's nothing like finding out that your President was in on a deal to break into the offices of his political opponents to shake your trust in politicians in general. Especially when such a thing had never happened before, to our knowledge, at least. From then on, the public attitude shifted toward a government versus the people perspective. It's definitely a different world now.


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I think nearly a half generation did that too *lol*
 
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will be at it sooner than you'd think, LOL.
lately? these stories have been around before this generation.
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meant *my* generation......
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unbridled generation--sm
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Since when is a nice looking clothes line such a taboo?...I mean its just for emergencies...you can make one pretty and descreet...

How many here still have use of a clothesline on occasion?...jeesh I'm going to get a dryer...

I can see where city and town ordinances might frown upon them...but heck...my house is nice and neat...no neighbors...granted won't be hanging up underwear....lol...

Those under 30 are the gimme now, I want it now generation....
they are the ones who will suffer because of their instant gratification needs. They spend too much, charge too much, have to compete with each other and think the free ride will last forever. We over 30 (more like 45) have houses that are almost paid for, no debt at all, money saved in the bank, don't worry about having the newest car, latest technology, biggest house, etc. In our case we have very nice electronics, clothing, vehicles, all paid for and buy what we want when we want with cash. I think we are headed to a depression, my own personal opinion, and the younger generation will not be able to deal with being told no, you can't have everything you want just because you think you deserve it.
I just think this younger generation just needs to be taught! sm
I am a woman in my 30s. Got married almost 10 years ago. I lived up north for a long time and married a man from the "true" south. Okay. Here I go - and I may get flamed for this, but here I go...When I lived in NY, I NEVER saw a thank-you note or even saw anyone in my family write one. Never. So, I was never "taught" that you write thank-you notes due to my upbringing.

I think it is a cultural thing. Maybe it's even a socioeconmic thing. Yes, we were very poor growing up in NY. Both my parents made around 26,000 combined with 3 children.

Fast-forward. I move down here, meet this amazing guy with a large family - most have money - lots of it - we have a huge wedding - I receive more gifts than I could even count - met people at my wedding I've never seen before in my life - the southern generosity has been overwhelming, and still is. We go on our long honeymoon and when I get home, my MIL calls and says to me, "Mrs. so and so (from the wedding shower), still hasn't received your thank-you note. Maybe you just forgot to send hers out. In any case, just thought I'd let you know! EMBARASSING! So, I pulled out my thank-you cards that came with my wedding invites and began writing thank you notes. That is where the LOVE of writing thank-you notes and just-writing-to-say-hello notes began. I LOVE doing it now. Love it. My family up north and around the country are amazed.

Here again, I was TAUGHT by my new mother-in-law, so to speak, and she did it in a very tactful manner.

Writing notes is just an amazing ministry and I love to do it. I get them printed off and personalized now with either my initial or my full name. You can get them on ebay, they will print 20 of them for you with corresponding envelopes for around 10 bucks.

Anyways, this was my experience.
He was trying to instill in the next generation that women
The guy sounds like a real JERK.
the younger generation will be the heros
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBUKRAE2O9c


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dying tradition would refer to the new generation
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consider the source - this generation of 20-something advertizine geeks.nm
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Should say the child found in Florida proved to be the Caylee child, homicide.
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Yes, with my second child.
He is now 13 and has never had any problems. Just pray, God will work it all out for you and I will keep you in my prayers also.
Tell me a little about your child, please
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Thank God. Having your child taken would be the
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As a child...
I never sucked my thumb and never had a pacifier. I had crowding of teeth as an adult because of wisdom teeth pushing on them. It really is the size/shape of your mouth/palate that determines crooked teeth, and that is determined by genetics.
More than one child
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Yes, have gone since I was a child.
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No H is an only child LOL.
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For dogs, you need to get to know them before you give them free reign of the house. Otherwise they might get into something we didn't think of to put up and die. This dog is in the age range of 12-18 months. We can already tell he is inquisitive. We don't know how much time he has spent in a house because he was abandoned at the shelter. We will observe him and train him and grant him more freedoms as he proves himself ready.

Dogs in the wild use dens. You are misinformed, probably by PETA folks who would have you release your Yorkshire terrier to the wild to fend for itself if they had their druthers.
I was 29, he's my only child
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of course he is my child
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Right - I don't think they should take the child because (sm)
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child with SVT. sm
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Yes, first child....nm
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Would you have said anything about this child?
I was at a very big market (international) this morning and as I exited the lunch room to retrieve my cart, saw a very young child alone in a cart with no one around. I stood there not moving for several minutes wondering where a parent might be. I could not even see a person in front or back of him that seemed to be paying attention to this child (probably around 3 or 4 years of age). The serving line in front does have glass so I could see the people buying their lunches. Finally I noticed a man that was looking around frequently at the child and finally he got through the line and came and picked the child up. I approached him to say how it is so easy for a person to snatch his child (John Walsh's on AMW had his young child snatched and killed in similar, only taking a second) and this man looked annoyed and said thank you for your thoughts and hurried away. Clearly child endangerment here but would you have said anything or just let it go?
How do you know it was actually his child?
That's what's scary.
I have a child like this...

(This turned out long.  Please stick with me.)


Like your son, it started in infancy.  He could throw a fit that could go on for 30 minutes.  If it was related to going to sleep, he would cry for hours no matter what I tried.  (Yes, i did have him ruled out for medical causes.)  He just could not calm himself down and he wanted what he wanted when he wanted it.  It started to feel like a war zone and the other kids were not getting the attention they needed because I felt like I had to deal with his bad behavior all the time.


When he was very young (infancy to about 3 years old), I would let him throw his fits and try to ignore them.  After about 30 minutes, I picked him up and rocked him and he always seemed to be relieved and would start to calm down.  I did not give into his demands.  It just was a way for him to know that I loved him even when he acted bad.


But you know what... A few months ago (he is 5 now), he was acting up yet again and I tried to talk to him.  I told him that I knew he was a good boy and that he was just having a hard time with his anger.  He was totally blown away that I thought he was a "good boy."  In his head, he thought he was bad.  This was an eye opener for me.


Because I had my own issues with frustration, I decided to work on me first.  I was sick of the war zone.  That is still a work in progress, but I feel a lot more calm when dealing with him now.


I explain things to him up front.  If we are going to a store, I tell him that I expect him to stand still by me.  If he wants to look at something, he can ask me, etc.  Then I ask him what he thinks the consequence will be if he does not mind.  Sometimes he answers, sometimes not.  Then, I tell him exactly what will happen.  No favorite TV channel or no playing with a favorite toy, something like that.  Just so he knew exactly what would happen if he makes certain CHOICES.  I also don't argue.  It only gets me wound up.  I put the onus back on him.  Counting 1...2...3 gives him a warning to change his behavior or deal with consequences.


I also communicate a lot about other's people reactions to when he "acts good" and "acts bad."  How the things that happen to him are often influenced by his CHOICES.   "Other children may not want to play with someone who ...only wants their way ... does not share ... hits."  "If you share your toy, your friend probably want to share his toys with you."


I praise him when I notice he has done something "good", like brushing his teeth without being reminded.  I tell how much I appreciate it (Because I do.  When you have 3 kids, its a really help when they can do something for themselves.) Someone knowledgeable told me the ratio of praise to discipline is 4:1.  I doubt that I hit that ratio, but I do look for things my kids do right.


None of this is easy for me.  I feel like I am talking myself blue in the face.  I am naturally quiet and not always willing to communicate verbally.  I'm praying the more I communicate now, then eventually I won't have to talk so much later.  Or at least, we can talk about more pleasant things.


I will say though that my son is starting to understand that he will not always get his way, and if he cooperates with me, I am willing to cooperate with him.  There has been good improvement since I started with this in April.


from a child
My son used to say mazagine and hangaburger instead of magazine and hamburger when he was about 3. I loved that. Not common to most people but it was common to him. :)
If this was MY child??? sm
I would be working my way up the food chain at that school. Who in the he!! at that school thinks they know what my child needs or doesn't need? The last I knew, raising children is up to the parents; not the school, not the state, and CERTAINLY NOT A LESBIAN TEACHER!! I was so upset when I just READ the story that it was all I could do to stop myself from sitting down and writing a letter to the school and giving them a piece of my mind.

To any and all parents in that school district...the threat of recall is an extremely potent weapon. Use it!!
I only have one child, a son..sm
so that helps. I usually spend about $300 on my son, but this year I have spent $400 already on a playstation 3 he has wanted ever since they came out last year. I can't just give him that so I have to buy him some other little things to open. My mom and mother-in-law and sister-in-law are going to buy playstation 3 games because after spending $400 on it I can't buy the games too, which are about $60 each. So I still have to buy some small things for him so I will probably spend about $500 on my son this year. The most I have ever spent on him and he is 10. Like I said it is usually no more than $300. I try to spend no more than $100 on my husband, but this year I know he has said how he would love to have an ipod. So I am going to buy one for about $150. I have my dad to buy for and mom. I know I will probably spend about $50 on my mom. My dad I am not sure yet. In-laws are usually about $20-25 each. My sister about $25. My brother in law about $20. My 2 nephews about $20 each. I also have a niece I will spend about $20-30 on. I try to spend a little more on my niece because my sister in law spends a lot on my son. So you see I have a lot of people to buy for. I don't even know how much that is all together but it ain't cheap. And the people I buy for I have to cause they do for us.
Your child isn't doing bad if he AM
is receiving dental care and has a Wii already.  Why are you hell-bent on making money off a fluke?  You certainly aren't setting an example your child should follow by selling it and I hope they DON'T give a gift receipt. 
How old is your child?
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We did that as a child sm
I hate to "date" myself but we were a struggling large family and my Dad went across the street and asked a guy if he could rent his empty lot to grow some vegetables, etc. Not only was it fun but we had tomatoes, lettuce, cucumbers, etc., and it was great. The only negative thing I remember about it was the tomato cut worms, ugly little suckers! I think it's a fun thing to do and a good lesson for the family (and healthy). Be sure the soil is "good" though. You can have it tested for pH at any college lab (I think). Throw in some flowers, that would be cool. I am going to do some big sunflowers this year, I used to hate them but I think we need them and you can bake, salt and eat the seeds. Have fun!!!
Oh it seems the child did not have it when ...sm
they entered the US or at least showed no symptoms. So my mistake. They had no way of knowing the child had it. Poor kid.
I know this and I am sorry your child - sm
and your family had such a horrible experience. In any way, shape or form it is a horrible thing for any family to go through especially when your child suffers and does not make it through. I know not all kids or adults have an easy time, I am not a total dolt though I am sure you think I am, fine. Some get lucky and it does not affect them as much as others for some strange reason. Jen was on dantinomycin and vincristine, the vincristine was quite nasty and that is what gave her the nausea and make her puke the few times she did. She ate a lot of Zofran though and with that she had a pretty good tolerance to it for some reason, she felt the worst though when the dactinomycin was added in, 7 times. I too find the ped onc very depressing and switched jobs so I did not have to type kids anymore, too upsetting, now I only do adults which I can handle pretty well except for the ones who procratinate to sure fire death sentence. Rant all you want, I have no problem with it. I know this is about this woman's choice, again I think she/boy are wrong, some feel she is right, fine. Agree to disagree.
What do you do when your child gets in trouble?

Spank/Swat   


Time Out   


Natural Consequences (ie, if they won't stop throwing food, then lunch is over, or if they run away while you're out, it's time to go home)   


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You Will Never Guess What A Child Said

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The Dad said hello, then the little boy looked at me & said "I got a hot dog & its in my underwear, you wanna see it"? I'm standing there stunned & the Dad laughs hysterically & then says " He's just like me ain't he"? The clerk was frozen in disbelief & so were several customers that were standing in line. I turned & walked out the door & as I was leaving I heard the Dad say to the boy, "you're somethin else Billy, thats a good one, I'm proud of you son".


What a foul mouth bunch of hillbillys they are. If one of my kids had said anything remotely like that their little mouths would be washed out with soap, they would have been made to apologize, & they would never do it again. I cannot believe that a Father would be proud of his son for talking dirty like that to an adult, especially a woman. Where in the world do these people come from?


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In ballet and tap as a child
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If I had a child in the military now,
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I took my child's away at 3 months.
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