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I loved reading this. sm

Posted By: trose on 2007-07-13
In Reply to: From the mouth of babes! - Lee

I also read it on the Comedy board and shared it with my Bible School class. Will share wtih my adult Sunday School also.


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If I'm reading right
then it makes perfect sense to me. He does not, no how, no way, no matter what happens, want anymore children. She "would not mind" having more children, but is willing to not have more children because of his wishes. However, should something happen, God forbid, to her husband or their marriage, she potentially would like to have more children.

Not sure why she wants him to have a vasectomy, but if I did read it right, it is his best insurance policy (short of abstinance) to ensure he does not get what he does not want. However, you are correct that there are other ways to avoid pregnancy, but sounds like the OP just wants her husband to be happy (by not getting what he does not want).

OP, I do agree with the posting that suggested you should not have scheduled this for him while he is of the mind set of not wanting to have it done. My husband just did have it done (our youngest child is 10 years old). After our youngest child was born, without my suggesting it, hubby had said that he would have it done because he felt that it was the right/fair thing to do. After all, I had gone through the two pregnancies/childbirths/breastfeeding, etc. While I appreciated the sentiment, he did not follow through with it until he HAD to. He had a varicocele that was causing referred pain up under his arm, which prompted him to see the family doc, who did not diagnose the varicocele, but after attempting to clear an "infection" (a "knot" in his testicle) with a couple of rounds of antibiotics, eventually he referred to a urologist.

I have not been able to take hormonals for years due to headaches and other problems associated with them, and had had an IUD placed, but had to have it removed the following day, so we had been using condoms for most of the 10-year time period (and even THAT did not prompt him to go ahead and have it done, after it was his idea to do it -- men can be such babies . . . LOL).

Because of the varicocele, he had to be put under and the surgery was a little more extensive than the normal, in-office procedure, and hubby has come through just fine. Yes, there is pain involved, but I imagine there was a little bit of pain involved with birthing your babies. I think he should "be a man" and just do it.
you might be reading too much into this

I have two daughters currently undergoing orthodontia treatment and their docs (brothers) either call us that night to see how they are feeling after their treatment or send a personal note.  Just very friendly, caring orthodontists.  They also have an office full of pretty young ladies and are both married with a bunch of kids and lovely wives.  They are just very nice guys.


Could be that your orthodontist is just trying to be a nice guy.   Don't embarrass yourself by reading too much into what could be an innocent effort to make your treatment time more enjoyable. 


Currently reading

"Cross" by James Patterson, next on my stack of 10 new books is "I Heard That song before by Mary Higgins Clark.  I'm an avid reader - can you tell??


 


Only just reading this, so very sorry.
I lost my little man kitty Dante, it has been almost 2 years, I've been thinking about him after reading all the supportive messages above. I was just telling my daughter yesterday that I think it's time to go to the Shelter and find a new little kitty to love. The value of their company cannot be measured. God Bless, take comfort in all the good days you had together. I'll say a little prayer that your heart does not hurt too much or for too long.

Wise
Reading this over and I think
your aunt does not have the ability to change a will. That is not what an executor does, that is not the position to change what is in a will. If you and your brother get anything at all, I think you should be glad because you were only taking the place of your father, his own child, as your father is demented. I went thru a similar thing, my father died and I had a deceased brother. The insurance company was supposed to divide insurance between the children of my deceased brother and me as they were taking the place of my brother. After a year's time they could not find them and they sent me the balance of 1/2 of the insurance fund. I am thinking perhaps with no changes made prior to the demise of your grandfather, that money perhaps might go to your father and hence like you do not want it to go, to the state. That would not be good for any of his entitled heirs but you might have an uphill battle with lawyers, the courts, etc. in this case. You can break a will and if lots there to be gotten, then probably can take this course. The aunt should already have hers coming, is that not right so I doubt with her telling the power of attorney to get a lawyer she is trying for more, only she does not have the authority to just break herself.
I don't know... From what I'm reading on other
sites, people are so tired of Adam's monotonous exact screams in every single song that the Danny voters will probably swing to Kris, so it could be up for grabs. AI has a message board too.
Loved it!!!. nm
Ha Ha
I loved NC
I was 20 miles north of charlotte.  I think NC is a beautiful state.  I would love to go back some day to a metro part of NC.
We have had them and loved them...

got my daughter one when she was about 13 (she is 25 now) and she has had 3 others since. Ours were all descented, though they did still smell some, but just gave them baths, which they love! We got such a kick out of watching Tinker (our first one) run throughout the house stealing socks and hiding them under the couch. Never had a problem with them, they sleep most of the time, ours were never aggressive towards us. Our cat and ferret got along wonderfully. Just like anything else in a cage, you have to keep it clean, but that is to be expected.


Me too and I loved it. nm
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Loved.
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Loved my mom, but.... sm
Sunshine, when I look back, I wish I had not taken what my mother said as gospel. I would have used my own discretion as to right and wrong behavior and SHE would have to grow up and accept it. You know in your heart what is right and wrong or you would not have asked us for advice. Your Mom needs your love, but you also need to be your very own person. You have a new life now which includes your husband. Do it for him, go with him and if they don't want to go along, tell them you will look forward to celebrating with them next day. In the meantime, they can "be your guest and have a good time until you get home." You take care, be strong!! All the things Mom teaches us are not exactly the right thing to do. Be fair.
Loved it!
These things happen all the time and we have to laugh at it. Just read your local newspaper for more. We are wordsmiths, so we have to have a little humor now and then. We were celebrating a birthday, an anniversary and something else all at once, so we asked to have "Happy Occasion" written on the cake. We had a terrible time getting "occasion" spelled correctly by those behind the counter. Blame the school system, not the cake decorator.
LOVED IT
although it was sad, it was very funny in parts, and had an awsome ending, can't believe the reviews were so bad, favorite movie since The Holiday. Loved seeing Denny from Grey's Anatomy in it. And yes, I need a poster of Gerard Butler now on my wall, LOL!!! My new fantasy man.
Loved it. Thx
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Yes and I LOVED IT
I loved that show--how you doin.. Heehee
My dog is very much loved thank you ---
what I mean is that I will never, never get rid of him so that no matter how much he irritates me by marking up everything I have in the house, chewing up my things that he can get to, scratching up my hardwood floors, pulling down my curtains when he wants to play, then I have about 10 more years of headaches because I love him dearly and he is not leaving this house!

So don't feel sorry for my ball of fur - he is very spoiled and very much loved!
I loved 4H
But could be because my best friends mom taught it and we were all together all the time. I have to admit the most I remember about 4H was learning to can food, basic nutrition, I knitted my first pair of slippers, but at 48 its been over 30 years, so I don't remember much, just that I had fun and learned stuff. Here in our town (now on the west coast) they do have 4H groups around. But nice to know there are other 4Hers out there.

P.S. - Not sure if you remember that girl scouts went like this - brownies grade 2&3, junior grade 4, 5 & 6, cadettes 6 & 7, seniors 8 and maybe 9 (can't) remember. Now there are so many branches and I get offended when they call say you have brownies and then girl scouts. I consider all levels girl scouts. Well its been over 20 or so years since I've been in girl scouts too so lots have changed.
loved it!

Thanks and Amen!


I did and LOVED it
I just love all of them, and thought they all looked great. I still watch their original MTV series DVD and laugh myself silly.

I'll keep watching it (provided I remember when it's on...I have a terrible memory about that kind of stuff!).

Thanks, after reading your post...sm
I decided I am going to call and speak with the manager first. Yes, I was supposed to go back to the same girl today but I changed my mind. I am going to explain the situation to the manager and ask if I can come in another day when this hairdresser is not there for a fix by someone else.
Ladies, please after reading your
posts you are sounding like a bunch of feuding school aged girls. What in the world is your problem? Retract your claws and be friends again, ok?
I did a lot of reading before Thanksgiving
when we made one - it was rather small - just for the 2 of us - and it turned out perfect. Husband likes very rare and we knew we would have a few slices left over which we would then microwave so wanted them rare also. The best advice I can give is to buy a good thermometer and take out before it reaches the temp you want for rare, medium or whatever - as it does continue to cook for a few minutes outside the oven - which surprised this old cook!!  It actually rose 5-10 degrees (cannot recall right now) and that can make a huge difference in a small prime rib - I was shocked! :))
After reading the below posts sm
I have to laugh. I have HP and have no trouble at all. It is the same thing with kitchen appliances. Have mostly GE and am not happy but many surveys say GE is one of the best.
OK-what is your fav book or what are you reading now
My very favorite book is Outlander by Diana Galbadon and I am current re-reading the second book in the Outlander series, Dragonfly in Amber. I would like to reread all 6 of them this summer, but Harry Potter is also coming out, so we'll see.  They are all huge books.
I have really enjoyed reading all of these.
Thank you for all your help.
I have been reading all these posts sm
and debating on what to say. Bear with me, this could be long. My mother's mother lives in California and has all my life. I live in Virginia. I havew seen my grandmother exactly 5 times and I am now 40. My mother died unexpectedly 3 years ago (she lived here and was extremely close with all her grandchildren). I knew that my mother and grandmother did not have a close relationship but they did love each other. The night before the funeral my father and I had such a long wonderful talk. He told me then that he never ever heard my grandmother say anything positive, not even anything nice to my mother. He wasn't trying to critize my GM but was just stating the facts. Two years ago my parents (dad and stepmother) decided to take each grandchild (4) on a separate vacation. My daughter really wanted to go to CA. Not necessarily to see her great-grandmother but wanted to include that in the trip. My parents asked me to go along. We flew to San Francisco and drove to her home about 3 hours away. Now keep in mind, my GM loves my father and thinks he put the moon and sun in the sky. We were only going to stay in her town over night simply becuase the woman is not enjoyable to be around. She has a very tiny home so we decided to stay in a hotel. My GM asked me if my daughter and I would like to stay with her. I did not want to but my stepmother really thought I should. We arrived and after spending some time at her house trying to show her pictures of the other grandchildren (she really wasn't very interested) we took her to lunch. I tried to talk to her about the likes of my other child as well as my nieces and what there life was like. She just kept interuppting and changing the subject. Mostly about my brother or to talk to my father. As we were leaving the restaurant my SM pulled me aside and said that we should definitely stay at the hotel. My GM has no other family except my brother and I. I still call her every week but the conversations are always the same. No interest in my life. My son's 17th b-day is tomorrow and he got a card from her yesterday. It was pink and covered in flowers. This is not a woman who I want to spend time with and never have for multiple reasons. I could write a book. Please don't "make" your children go. There are obvious reasons in their minds and you should respect that.
After reading some of your posts,

it sounds like maybe he just wants to stay married so he can keep you under his thumb.  I'm sure it's better for him financially if you stay together and he has someone to do the household chores as well.  As for asking for sex via email, that is creepy.  But, I would still wonder whether he is getting somewhere else.  I think men would still continue to ask, just on the off-chance that you actually would say yes, but get it somewhere else, too.  I'd be afraid of what he could bring home.  As for the kids, I agree with the other posters.  The kids will pick up on this, but sadly enough, they will grow up believing it's a normal relationship when it's not, thus the generation-after-generation epic of divorce.  That's just my opinion, though, and I'm certainly not an expert.


Now, back to you, I'm sorry that you're not getting any with someone who loves and respects you.  So often, it is just assumed that the woman doesn't need/desire intimacy, when in all honesty women crave that intimacy even more than men.  It's not necessarily the physical aspect of the intimacy that women crave, but rather the emotional.  The fact that he asks for it so bluntly via email on a daily basis is his way of degrading you.  Don't let it go on any longer.  I would be headed straight to the divorce lawyer's office.  Many women have been through divorce and made it through okay.  You're children will support you once they see how much happier you are without him.  Good luck to you. 


Thanks everyone for sharing - still reading, lol. sm
She has had her "permit" and has been driving with me (and siblings, lol) for a year now. I have let her drive as much as possible because I too feel like one poster said about the more experience the more comfortable and responsible. My sister got killed in a car wreck at 21 so my DD is very aware of how panicky I am about letting her drive and myself letting go more than anything I think. She has been an excellent driver (while I am in the car that is). We do live in a little country town so she would not be allowed to drive into the big city with major traffic for a long while by herself. She has driven there 2-3 times with me and on her first trip I allowed her to drive to town, someone rear-ended us!! I laugh now though because she didn't know what to do at all. We were at a stop (red light), the lady hit us about the same time the light turned green, and DD proceeded to go with the greenlight! I was like hmm, what are you doing? She didn't realize we had been hit as she was proceeding to go when we got hit. It's funny after the fact because no one was hurt, just minor fender bender, but at least it was a learning experience for her and was not her fault.

My SIL's mother owns a Mexican restaurant close to us and will work around her schedule to allow her to work when she can so she does have the capacity of getting a job if she can ever have time to work. She has helped there temporarily on holidays a few times already. I think she will have some time this summer though as cheer practice is usually over at noon and she will just have to save up to pay her bills.

I kind of feel I should cover her with how hard she is working at school and activities, but don't want to "spoil" my child and not make her appreciate it and not learn responsibility so I want to make her be responsible for something. Of course, her 16-yo friend got a brand new, off the show room floor Mazda RX7. That is parental ignorance in my opinion and aint happening for my kids even if I could afford it. I can tell you one night they didn't get home from a game until 11:30 p.m. on a school night and I was livid. She was up until 1 a.m. studying for her semester exam the next day!! She is very dedicated, but that is ridiculous. Our local community college gives the entire top 10 a full paid scholarship so that is why she is encouraged to make the top 10 and pushing really hard towards this goal. She is already taking some college classes at school (combo classes) including A&P as she wants to be ultrasound tech and that is a tough class.

I have checked into ins, which is out the roof, but they also deduct points based on good grades, etc. so I want to at least make her partially pay for this so she will be encouraged not to speed, keep the grades up, etc. and realize it will all save her money by doing so.

Good tip though to let her drive home and to school. That is one thing we don't do as it is so routine she doesn't ask then and I don't think about it. You are definitely right, that parking lot is crazy and makes me never want to let my son drive when I see those teenage boys spinning out in the parking lot. I'll start letting her do that. Thanks again everyone!!
This happens with my sunglasses as well as reading
and I know what you are talking about. I think the haziness comes from either touching your face with the lens part or maybe your breath. I usually just take mine off and then put back on. Has nothing to do with the price you paid.
Summer reading

I'm currently reading a great book on Einstein.  It was published in 2007, after all of his papers finally became public.  Author is Walter Isaacson, and it's called:  EINSTEIN - HIS LIFE AND UNIVERSE.  He also wrote BENJAMIN FRANKLIN - AN AMERICAN LIFE, which I may read next.  Funny how as one gets older, fiction often is less interesting than real life. 


Many, many people were involved in getting the details of Einstein's life and the science right, and even HS science teachers were brought in to bring the scientific explanations down to high school level so we'd all have a chance of understanding it.  It's 551 pages long, plus an additional 125 pages of credits!  It starts out with a few pages describing the "main characters" in the book.  I'm just getting started, but I can tell it's going to be fascinating. 


I have been reading your story...

My heart goes out to you.  You have been through a lot of anguish.  I think the fact that you are trying the best that you can shows that you are going to make it through this. 


I agree that at first your husband should be the one to set limits, but there is nothing wrong with watching him and learning from him, so that you can take baby steps to establish limits (of course these should be abided by both parents) too.  Not only for your daughter's sake, but for your sake too.  She needs to respect you too.


Good luck.  I hope the best for you and your family.


Tell me what you are reading this summer

I love to read. Anything and everything.

But!

I lost my reading muse awhile back and can't seem to find it.

And!

When I had it I almost read 24/7.

Nora Roberts/JD. Robb, Bea Small, Linda Howard, Karen Marie Moning, Janet Chapman, Kristin Hannah *old books*, and many, many more.


So, what you're reading, what you've read and what you want to read.


Just gained 5 lbs. reading above sm
Hash brown recipe simply scrumptious, I use crushed potato chips for the topping. I once used grated parmesan cheese (the kind you put on spaghetti) instead of grating it myself and it was absolutely delicious (expensive) but so easy. I also make a carrot cake with the crushed pineapple and use 2 jars of baby food carrots instead of shredding. (Lost that receipe someplace.)  Just call me lazy, I guess. Gosh, now I have to go and stuff my face. You all make it sound so good, I can smell it cooking!
I have been reading extensively about this
and from what I hear, John's religion more or less bans anyone with any kind of mental disability, autism or others and this is the reason for the other diagnosis of Kawasaki's (spelling) that the Travolta family said he had for years. Apparently seizures go along with autism and the other diagnosis they do not. Also scientology apparently is against doctors and medicine so if having seizures, people are wondering if he really was on antiseizure medicine. I also have heard the child basically shunned by his family also, fed fattening foods while the family ate healthy and just sitting in front of a televison to occupy. There is video on Google of this 16 year old being walked around with people holding his hands, right and left and this is a recent video. Supposedly 2 nannies around the clock, baby monitor in his rooms, etc. and the police said he injured himself on Thursday night and no one discovered him until about 10 hours later on Friday. There is a lot of information out there. They have 2 people doing the autopsy today. Very strange to me that with his all around care, no one checked on him for all those hrs the police said he was unaccounted for.
one glucometer reading does not
constitute a valid diagnosis. Get a different doctor. Work hard to lose the weight. and get some insurance! Don't waste time being sad, take control!
Okay, after reading the below posts sm
I know the Steelers are playing but who else is playing?
After reading your post and all of the other
posters' comments, I would give you the following advice...

Tell your friend 'A' that HE is alwlays welcome into your house, but SHE is not.

If 'A' invites you and your husband into a restaurant and SHE will be present, decline. You BOTH have to decline, this counts also for your husband.
If 'A' is alone, you both can accept the invitation.
Are you reading what you post?
You're complaining about someone else's grammatical mistakes and then when someone points yours out to you, you become defensive.  I'd worry more about getting kicked out the meeting for your rudeness than getting banned from an anonymous board.  Imagine how that poor woman must have felt being corrected by you, most likely in front of others.  No matter how "nicely" you may have worded it, it was rude, and even though she didn't seem to notice your rudeness, I'm sure others did.  You seriously said "balls" in a meeting to her?  What were you thinking?
From reading your replies....sm
I don't think it is the breed. I think it is just these 2 little gremlins. I am just not used to a dog acting like this because all the dogs I have ever had never acted like that. Which I had never owned a boston so I said I don't know if it is the fact they haven't raised them properly or if bostons are just all like this. I believe now they are just bad owners since you all have bostons and they don't behave like that. I know my sister has 2 but I am not around them enough to know the dogs really well but my mom is and she said oh no the minute they start acting up they go outside in the fenced in backyard or to the kennel in the utility room and she doesn't have to do that often either. SO they have pretty much learned I guess if they want to stay in the house and roam freely they have to act civilized.
I was reading that just from "gravity" sm
and if you are overweight it can do it. I noticed a couple years ago taht when I just sit anywhere with my legs down for any length fo time, they drive me nuts. I don't have the kidney, heart, liver failure the other poster suggested. I have read that with age, weight, etc etc. this can happen. Just wondered if anybody else had this problem and what do they do about it. I worry about PAD and all that. It clears up really fast when I am not sitting so I know that is good. Think I will try the socks though. Right now I have one leg on the table and the other leg down! Great position huh? At least I can still get the leg up on the desk!
Reading this message is sad
If you knew about the possibility of having dementia in your mother and possibly subjecting you to same, why in the world would you ever think about having another child and running the risk of the child not having a mother by the time they are a young teen? That is sad in the fact of you writing a note just in case you are not in a mental state as she ages so she could understand. How old was your mother when she had to be put in a facility?
That made my day, I loved it !!...nm
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ooh, your's too - I LOVED YOUR POST....

I too have friends of ALL denominations - so whose is right??  I think much of it is myth....the adam and eve story whereby if woman was made from his rib, then men should have 1 less rib than woman, right?  WRONG....my plastic surgeon (who I work for) confirmed that both men and women have 12 ribs.......


so that adam and eve story was shot to you-know-what once he said that to me....


oh and he's a religious Jewish person *LOL*


 


Loved the original. sm
I haven't seen this one yet, but I will. A couple of columnists have said that it is not as good as the original. One said J. Travolta was fabulous but the rest were just okay and not as good as the musical. Someone else said it didn't seem to live up to it's hype. I guess to each his own.
If you really loved me, by Ann Rule. sm
she writes true crime books, really excellent writer, one of my favorites. However, I need to mix it in with chick lit, recently finished The Devil Wears Prada. Had the Nanny Diaries on my mp3 player (I thought the stories had a similar tone). Also like Michael Lee West book Mad Girls in Love, because it takes place in Tennessee, and she had some familiar places in it. Want to read some of her other stuff.
I loved them both, but get the books
and then nobody will have to talk you into seeing the rest of the movies, LOL.

Plus with the movies you don't get into Harry's head as much, and that's where you get to know Harry. I can only imagine that people who only see the movies don't know him nearly as well as the readers do.

just curious - did you see any of your loved ones? sm
i too kinda believe in reincarnation. mom my swears my daughter is my sister reincarnated. odd, but lots of similarities.
I loved the first couple of those they did but since then
it has gotten just too cutthroat for me, and the people they have on there are not likeable enough to make me want to root for any of them.
Loved, I agree (nm)
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Loved all these fun movies sm
You had Joe Pesci correct. I am not a person who swears a lot but he swears so much, it gets hilarious. Of course, I watch him with no kids around. He swore so much in Casino that I was laughing all by myself. Husband and I are getting older, so we joke about Python's skit - Bring out your Dead! But I'm not dead yet! So hilarious! Thanks for the laughs. No offense meant by the swearing, I just love Joe Pesci, loved him when he was ordered by the court to live in his own slum houses. I am sure he's a much nicer guy in person. Thanks for the memories.