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I think it is in bad taste and he should be fired from his job...

Posted By: Kendra on 2009-01-14
In Reply to: Do you like this law? - Not me

but I am not sure it is a crime. An 18-year-old knows what she is doing. To be honest, so does a 16 or 17-year-old. I certainly think that he should lose his teaching license, but it really is not sexual misconduct with a minor. She was not a minor.


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Did someone actually get fired for this?

Should They Be Fired?
If they don't and ask them to pay back the no smoking benefit $$ I wonder how far they can go back?

Sara


39 Whirlpool workers suspended over smoking lies



INDIANAPOLIS, Indiana (AP) -- Smoking can be hazardous to your health, and it's turning into a bad career move, too.
A Whirlpool Corp. factory in Evansville, Indiana, has suspended 39 workers who signed insurance paperwork claiming they don't use tobacco and then were seen smoking or chewing tobacco on company property. Now, some could be fired for lying, company spokeswoman Debby Castrale said.
As annual health care premiums rise more than 10 percent a year, many companies are trying to rein in costs by encouraging healthy living.
"I can't think of a client of ours who has not shifted their focus to controlling the cost of their health care plan," said Indianapolis, Indiana, benefits lawyer Mike Paton.
Some employers have developed wellness programs to motivate employees, while others ask employees to state on benefits forms whether they use tobacco.
Whirlpool, based in Benton Harbor, Michigan, uses financial incentives to encourage U.S. workers and their dependents to abstain from tobacco use, spokeswoman Jill Saletta said. The specifics vary according to location.
In Evansville, the 1,500-employee factory charges tobacco users an extra $500 in annual health insurance premiums. The refrigerator factory has levied the extra premium since 1996, and it depends on employees to honestly fill out forms. It doesn't mandate blood tests to detect nicotine or trail employees outside work, Castrale said.
Management suspended the 39 employees Friday after they were spotted using either chewing tobacco on company property or taking a drag in one of the factory's dozen shelters for outdoor smoking, Castrale said.
"It's definitely not something we wanted to do," she said. "It's unpleasant."
The employees were suspended without pay, and they'll present their case at "fact-finding" meetings before management determines their fate. Whirlpool had to recall some laid-off workers to keep production running due to the suspensions.
A 2007 national survey showed that 16 percent of all large employers -- those with 20,000 or more employees -- adjust health care premium contributions according to the worker's smoking status, according to the human resources consulting firm Mercer.
The federal Employee Retirement Income Security Act limits the changes an employer can make to a health premium because of a worker's unhealthy habits. But it doesn't set parameters on punishment if an employee lies about his or her habit, Paton said.
Lewis Maltby, president of the National Workrights Institute, which advocates for employee privacy, sees no problem with employers trying to curb smoking. But he worries that the trend of cracking down on employees' unhealthy behavior is extending beyond tobacco use.
"We shouldn't have to give employers complete control over our private life so they can save a few dollars on medical care," he said.

I got fired once ...
supposedly because after only a half-day of training on the front desk, I could not address the patients by name when I saw them! Since my entire period of employment up until I was called to substitute at the front desk was spent stashed in the back transcribing, I had never even SEEN the patients, and thus could not possibly be expected to match names with faces. Obviously, they fired me for other reasons. It is equally obvious that the OP's co-workers and supervisors are not looking out for her best interests, and the lack of ability to understand a couple of ESL dictators is probably the least of her problems. (I am assuming it is a her. Forgive me if I am mistaken about that.)

Accents or no, some dictators defy understanding. Right now I am transcribing a doctor from Nigeria who is a little mushy but she speaks quite slowly, pronounces almost everything correctly, and I stand in awe at her (and most other ESL docs, frankly) command of English usage and syntax, with the added "bonus" of medical language on top of everything else.

And one night when I was pretty new on this job, I transcribed a VERY difficult ESL doc, whom I was ready to KILL by the time I was done. (And he was from my tertiary backup account so I didn't have samples to refer to, or prior experience with him.) But at the end, he said something like, "Thank you for taking the trouble to transcribe this dictation, God bless you, please." Okay, he was allowed to live. ;)

And I've NEVER been taken to task for leaving blanks. Never. I was even told by a supervisor that if I have to leave 100 blanks, so be it--they'd rather I blank it than try to guess.
Absolutely, and she should be fired...!
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so ya think if ABC fired her, they wouldn't tell the
       
I'm so fired up left off, "I don't THINK its right! nm
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Walmart fired my daughter...

the last week in November.  She had called in sick 2 days before, and the assistant manager who fired her said they knew she had called, but they were firing her for a "no call, no show."  The truth is my daughter worked in lay-away, which has been discontinued at Walmart, and they had no place for her in another department. 


She had loved working there and was totally crushed when they fired her.  A month before Christmas . . . what a nice surprise!


I think Walmart stinks.


Yes, they should be fired and required to refund
They hurt everyone with this. It is lying, cheating and stealing.

It's his time if he's off the clock. Otherwise he should be fired - nm
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It's not the worker's fault. She has to follow the rules or be fired. sm
I've taken a lot of flack from a lot of customers, and the run-of-the-mill retail worker really has no freedom to make decisions. When the worker is caught between a yelling customer and a yelling manager, who do you think she'll listen to?
I had the taste for something different sm
last night. Steaks and mashed potatoes with gravy were on the menu. I wanted something different than the usual for a veggie. In my frying pan, I took a spray of nonstick Pam, 2 tablespoons of butter, 1/2 onion and browned the onion in butter. Then, I added a small can of sliced mushrooms and browned those. After that, I added a can of green beans and a can of corn and some black pepper to give it a little zing. I sauteed that until just lightly brown and then we sat down to eat. The veggies were so darn good I ate the whole thing. Shame on me.
taste of blood.....
yea alot of people say that. I have heard it numerous times, but then I see shelters take in hard core fighting dogs & turn them into loving pets & working dogs for the community such as lawdogsusa.org so I believe this is a myth.
Yep that was it....Taste of Home...nm
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Loss of smell and taste
Thank you so much for responding.  It is bothering me somewhat as when I mentioned this to my primary care doctor he didn't seem to think it was something to be concerned with, or at least that was my impression.  I will be seeing the ENT doc on Friday and hopefully I can get some answers.  I guess I will have to get used to eating food and not being able to enjoy the flavor.  I also read on line about smells, spoiled foods, gas fumes, etc.  Thanks again and I am glad you are doing well otherwise.
Loss of taste and smell (SM)
Hello all - I was wondering if anyone on this board has ever lost their sense of taste and smell due to an upper respiratory infection and/or chronic sinusitis.  This happened to me about 3 months ago and I assumed I would regain my sense of taste and smell but I haven't yet.  Any suggestions as to treatment would be greatly appreciated.  BTW I will be visiting an ENT specialist soon.  TIA
Great taste. My picks also! nm
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LinK - You and I have the same taste in performers.
Julian McMahon as your Avatar? I never miss a Nip/Tuck! How about David Boreanaz? I love Bones, and watch reruns of Angel every morning on TNT!
You have very good taste! My fav too, but left a $65 bottle in a
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You sound really young, good taste never
goes out of style.
people mimic good taste, but
I would have been really hacked off about that. I do not like my MIL at all! I would have blamed it on her haha. Ill share one of my many many horrible MIL stories....

When my daughter was little, it took forever for her to get hair. She had said over and over how I needed to get it trimmed. I told her we will but we make a deal out of their first haircuts, and we would do it. We lived 5 hours away. Anyway, my husband and I left our kids with her for the weekend, and when I came back, she had trimmed her hair. I was furious... of course my husband didnt notice and couldnt figure out why my face was 6 shades of red. He asked her about it, and she said "she is my granddaughter."

I have plenty more to share, but I have a job and kids to feed lol....
I agree but his taste in women makes me wonder!

Not at all, I just find that post in poor taste
which obviously you don't which is very telling regarding your standards.


Hand them a lemon to smell and taste and put sunlight on them

When I realized while dating what lousy taste he had, I started buying my own gifts. Been doing it
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Difficult based on taste, easy based on ethics.
I was a vegetarian for 10 years, then a vegan for about 5 before meeting my husband, i.e. Mr. Barbecue. He thinks he will die of starvation if he doesn't have some form of animal flesh on his plate at least twice daily. I do eat meat minimally now but not without guilt about the way the animal was raised and slaughtered. I don't believe meat is healthy either, esp. because of the hormones, antibiotics and unnatural feed commercial livestock receives. I have free-range chickens and use their eggs, and I buy raw milk from a local small farmer whose cows graze freely on organic grass. I am working my way back to a meat-free diet in spite of my DH. Can't wait to shed the 20 pounds of animal-fat blubber I've accumulated and get my cholesterol level back down to where it used to be! You just have to give peas a chance.