I think the guilotine is the most humane to the criminal

• Poll. The Nebraska high court decided that the electric chair is inhumane. What do you think? nm - Former Nebraskan
  • anhybody here remember enron?....sm - cat
    • Corporate scandals - MTness
  • Like Iran, maybe we should go to stoning. - nm
    • Enough people in US already stoned. - nn
  • I think the guilotine is the most humane to the criminal - but not to the ones carrying out the execution s/m
  • Go back to the firing squad - Did I say that?
    • China uses firing squads regularly... - if you light up any illegal substance, DEAD!!..nm
    • right; effective, quick, cheap method; have always believed this; always will - - NM
    • We should use them as test subjects for medication and - cosmetics instead of cats an bunnies
      • Amen! - ginny
      • sounds like a good idea to me! nm - ks
  • I agree - sm
  • As a civilized society, life in prison without parole - is best punishment.
    • costs $30-$40,000 per year to house each - inmate in America......WE pay that...s/m
      • Jails are overflowing because of insane drug laws. - Those need changing.
        • totally agree w/you & NORML comes to mind... - inmate in America......WE pay that...n/m
    • They didn't bother to ask their victim if they'd wanted to live...sm - Georgia Gal
    • so, you think we should reward them by paying for their bed, heat, water, food? - no- NM
      • Does life in prison sound good to you? I would - rather die.
        • Free medical and dental, someone to cook, do - laundry, free education and a
          • girlfriend named Shirley. What's not to like? - nm
            • oh, wait.... - where do I sign up? (nm)
    • Who said we're civilized? - They're not; why should we be?
      • So why has most of the rest of world abolished - capital punishment?
        • It's all about politics (nm) - Are you kidding?
    • For who? The taxpayers that have to support them? - anon
    • Besides many times life in jail is short anyway - MT2
    • torn - jlynn

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a while back, they gave me a free veterinary visit to almost any vet office in the city.  She also developed kennel cough, but about five days after I brought her home.  They say it can take up to ten days for them to get the symptoms.  They said a large majority of dogs from any shelter will end up getting it.  The vet can also tell by looking at their teeth about how old they are.  Maybe you are right, she may have some kind of infection going on. 

I think it's great you are committed to keeping the dog even with these problems.  A lot of people would take it back and trade it like it's a car. 

I adore my dog, he is my baby, but whenever he sees anything going on outside the house - people walking by, trucks driving by, leaves blowing across the yard (not kidding) he barks like crazy.

He's 10 years old and at this point I don't think he can be trained not to bark. Yes, he has been like this since we had him but it has gotten worse. I think it's because he is on pain medication all the time and that lowers his inhibition. He used to respond fairly well when I would tell him to stop barking and give him "the look" (I'm the alpha dog).

Now it is not only annoying, but there are times that it interferes with my work. We had someone working in the yard today (one-time thing) and I had to shut him up in the bedroom for an hour, where he couldn't see what was going on.

I don't want to hurt him, would not dream of using anything that would be at all painful, but I need a solution! Suggestions, please.

My mom lives alone and is nearing retirement.  Although I live out of state, my sister is very close by and has a good relationship with my mom.  My mom is very close with her grandkids.  In the last 15 years my mom has been through immense family loss and in the last 5 years the sudden loss of 2 pets due to medical conditions.  She has a new cat and a dog (used to be mine but she was attached and wanted me to leave him behind for her).  He is a large dog, 10 years old, and having multiple medical problems.  He has a number of lumps and bumps, hip problems to the point where he has injections and won't walk on the kitchen floor any longer.  He does not indicate he is in pain other than his actions.  But I don't think he would wimper or cry as he is a very well behaved and trained dog.  My sister and I have been trying to talk to my mom about the possibility of making "the humane decision" for him or atleast preparing for it.  All she will say is that SHE is "not ready yet."  The vet has told her that his hip and spine problems are painful and that's what the shots are for.  Nothing can be corrected and the vet will not evaluation his lumps because of his age and other problems.  To further complicate the matter, he is a large dog.  I have tried to explain to her that should something happen with him in her home there is no one to help her get him into the car.  My BIL has recently had medical problems himself and is in no condition to be lifting a 100 lb dog off the floor.  I am sure we could call on a family friend but I know my mom and she wouldn't want to "bother" anyone.

My questions is...has anyone else been through this?  I don't want to convince my mom to do something she is not ready for but at the same time I don't want the dog to suffer either.  Any ideas of an unconventional approach to getting her to think of him and not herself?  I really feel she just doesn't want to feel any more loss and that is why she is holding on.