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Not everyone reacts badly to chemo - sm

Posted By: Laura E. on 2009-05-24
In Reply to: speaking of ignorance...sm - anon

My daughter was not throwing up every half hour. In the 18 treatments/doses she received in her five month regimen she puked 3 times I think. She was nauseous, yes, but Zofran took care of that. She lost about five pounds in all but most/all of that was tumor. She did not lose her hair until the 4th month, but as I said then if that is the worst thing to happen we will live with it. Hair does grow back. Her hair grew back red again, not as firey red, but still a beautiful color, thicker now too, and grows so much faster now too, already below her waist now in the 3.5 years it has been growing back. Her hair was very, very slow growing prior to her chemo (about mid-back maybe short when she got sick at 5, with absolutely no haircuts except for bangs). Physically now she is in fantastic shape. She never developed footdrop or any side effects other than nausea and exhaustion, she had little stamina for 6 months to a year after chemo ended. Now however she is great, looks great, is in great shape and is a very active 9-y/o. She has been thru a lot and is very mature for her age, more so than my soon to be 11-y/o. She has a lot on her mind and still worries sometimes she will get cancer again. I feel bad that she thinks that way but it is something she will have to live with for the rest of her life, but at least she will have a life. Without the chemo she would not have had one and she knows that, she is a smart cookie. She also knows I am her mom and I love her to pieces and will always make sure she is kept safe and hopefully healthy. If she never needs it I will give her one of my kidneys presuming I can. ---but chemo is proven to work more than it fails, nothing is 100%, but at 13 the boy is too young to understand the ramifications. He will die, period, no doubt in my mind, if he does not do chemo. Yes, he may still die with it but his chances are much less and if they go with a "natural" treatment his chances are definitely a lot less. Very short-sighted of both of them I think. Before anyone attacks me, I like you am entitled to my opinion but before you attack make sure you have walked in my shoes. A child sick with cancer is a very scary thing.


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but everyone in this life has issues and problems to put up with, you are not the only one. We all have to deal with things that are not what we would choose for ourself. We all fight battles each and every day- but you let a 14 year old female be paddled (I personally think 14 entirely too old for that) but it seemed and still does seem strange for you to go through each and every thing about her bottom, telling her to wear padded panties, my gosh I feel like I am the one watching a peep show. I think it sounds like some soap opera and that is truly how I feel.
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By my point here, Laura E., is that just because YOUR child didn't have nausea does not mean that everybody's children escape the horrible side effects.

Furthermore, I also have typed pediatric oncology reports (I eventually had to refuse to type peds onc. because it would leave me in tears every time), and the reports don't really explain the side effects the parents and children are seeing on a daily basis. The reports themselves just cover overall progress issues. The doctors don't live with the parents and get to visualize the experience at 2:00 a.m., 4:00 a.m., 6:00 a.m., when the Phenergan wears off and the kid has nothing left inside to puke, but keeps puking anyway.

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