Ouch, at 50-y/o....I'd run away screaming - sm

Posted By: XXX on 2009-02-08
In Reply to: I don't think so. I have 2 boys. They have - me

but as for abuse, no it is not abuse since it is a recongnized medical procedure unlike female mutilation.

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Do you think infant male circumcision is child abuse? - nm
- Do you think that piercing a child's ears is abuse? - Kendra
- As a woman married to a noncirc and - the mother of 3 circs -- here's my 2 cents
  - ABSOLUTELY! They do it WITHOUT anesthetic sm - Mom of 2 uncircs
    - www.nocirc.org - YES
  - I think in the past... - MT
    - 2 of the 3 were covered by insurance - the mother of 3 circs -- here's my 2 cents
- I don't think so. I have 2 boys. They have - me
  - Ouch, at 50-y/o....I'd run away screaming - sm - XXX
- yes, but out of ignorance, not malice - just like the western world is all up in arms abou
  - look up the lower down posts, this is a totally different story..nm - x
- no, not child abuse. what will they think of next? SM - anon
  - what do you mean by 'think of next?' This - brook
- There is a religious not hygenic reason for circumcision. - Golda
  - the bris - sadie
  - Thanks for explaining this. Do you kinow if this holds also true for Muslims? nm - x
    - Mulisms and circumcision - Golda
      - My dh is from Morocco... - MT
        Aren't Muslim babies in theArab countries cicumcised before they leave the hospital? nm - x
        Some are, just like anywhere... - MT
      - Thank you again for explaining, interesting and inspiring..nm - x
- Use some common sense - Give me a break
  - You're funny... - MT
- It's a personal decision... - MT
  - How old is your child? - jc
    - Old enough to know... - MT
      - so I take it he's not sexually mature yet? - he may not be so thankful to you
        Quit assuming... - MT
        no kidding - deenibeeni
- I personally don't know the statistics, but - - NYMT
  - why not cut off the ears at birth to prevent - ear infections?
    - Now, that's ridiculous..... - brook
      - and how can it really be compared... - Kendra
  - not being circumcized promotes penile cancer - looks like your god messed up some things
    - Then why is there a higher incidence in the US... - deenibeeni
      - We get it deeni sweetie, you - sm
        No point going to Washington, BabyCakes - deenibeeni
        Baby Cakes, I LOVE it...thanks honey! - sm
        Its not a little piece of skin - read up on it. It plays a lot of important functions. Google it. - nm
        You will have to explain - deenibeeni
    - exactly, and the transmission of STD, - x
      - I would say - deenibeeni
  - Then why tonsils, appendix?? - Nola
    - Deenibeeni: This you should know as an MT regarding tonsils! - brook
      - You need to read my posts more carefully. - deenibeeni
        but they look GROSSSSS EWWW - i would never saddle my child with
        Scary - you gotta be kidding - nm
        let's just say that's one more reason i'm proud - to be an American LOL
        I'm only posting this - deenibeeni
        she is just expressing her feelings, do NOT BASH HER FOR THAT.. - x
        oh yea don't forget the smegma smell - guess that's why the French stink
        Now I know who I'm dealing with - deenibeeni
        RIGHT, LMAO...nm - brook
        Nonsense... - MT
        an uncircumcised penis - reminds me of a dog penis
        Right, but with the foreskin ON, they stink even more,...nm - brook
        You must pick gross men in general... - MT
        I am PRO CIRCUMCISION, so I am NOT A STINKY GIRL, YOU ARE! nm - x
        You're funny... - MT
        true - n/m
    - They were removed because they became INFECTED - deenibeeni
      - Brook - you are the one misinformed - nm
        circumcision, yes or no, definitely yes! - x
        "a little pain" - deenibeeni
        deeni, are you perhaps a man who is lamenting the loss of his foreskin?...nm - hmmm
        no, I'm not a man - deenibeeni
        Just let it go, I say yes to circumcision...nm - x
        uh, I say no. - deenibeeni
        Oy Vey, your poor family! What a meshuga...nm - nm
        I had it with you! What's wrong with you!..see message - x
        There is a growing body of evidence - deenibeeni
        Duh, duh ??? - x
        Risks - deenibeeni
        You are CRAZY. end of discussion, you are in your own....nm - brook
        She is DENSE, don't bother any longer. Like talking to a wall... - nm
        What does being Jewish have to do with it? - deenibeeni
        oh? - sadie
        Jews against circumcision - deenibeeni
        It means your family has to put up with you and I feel sorry for them... - sm
        I would bet a lot of money - deenibeeni
        Oh sweetheart, give it a rest already..we know how perfect you are.. - sm
        "sweetheart" and "honey" - deenibeeni
        sweetie, you are still DENSE...you obviously can't read... - sm
        Uh, no - deenibeeni
        yes, deenibeeni, take a hike or fly a hike, toodle-loo/ nm - x
- Child abuse, hardly - Nola
  - smegma - deenibeeni
    - dear deenibeeni..you are misinformed - brook
      - I did NOT mention in my above post - deenibeeni
        dear deenibeeni, tell your 'wisdom' to - x
        Why deenibeeni is so stubborn - deenibeeni
        Agree with you deenibeeni - we've been conditioned to believe that its good - nm
      - Wrong again - deenibeeni
      - AAP does not agree with you - deenibeeni
  - Yup, Nola is very right about the problems of not circumcising, I held my baby - Cyndiee
    - Nola is very wrong - deenibeeni
      - If I were wrong, you should have told the boys that - Nola
        Well, obviously. For heaven's sake. - deenibeeni
        I don�t read the sites you give as I disagree with you - Nola
        that's enlightened of you - deenibeeni
        Beliefs, those do not even play into any of this warped thread - Nola
        That's not everyone's experience... - MT
      - Deeni, I respect your opinion, but I held both my sons during circumcision......sm - Cyndiee
        20-year old personal clinical experience - deenibeeni
        What the heck? - Nola
        You may find this enlightening - if you really want to be enlightened - nm
        you have no way of knowing - deenibeeni
        LMAO, hahahaha! - queens
        You need to read this and with an open mind - nm
        I'm saying - deenibeeni
        nor can you be certain that there is any effect at all. - Kendra
        It's only a teeny weeny piece of skin, for heaven's sake, get real! nm - x
        Thousands of nerve endings insignificant? - nm
        this is just rationalizing - deenibeeni
        What atrocity? - x
        For those who think the foreskin is useless - nm

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SCREAMING toddlers

I have had it!!! Moved recently to help a friend ouit -- work with my companies has been low -- when I got here slept on the couch and had the puter set up I the dining room with my wireless card -- got the cable connection and my friends hubby BLEW up their wireless router -- got my Linksys hooked up -- no problem. My VENT is -- this house is "open door" mommies who are houswives -- and almost ADC level but "oh gee this broke that broke" but hubbies can be at the bar 24/7 -- when they are here the kids SCREAM all day and there is NO control, no consideration whatsoever and yes, I am addressing the "wanna bes" who want to be at home etcc -- dosent work till experience under the belt -- JMHO

Sounds like you ALREADY take your screaming
So I guess the original post WAS written specifically about YOU.

... be dragged, kicking and screaming. nm
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Adam's screaming is getting repetitive, predictable, and boring... All his
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Paris to serve all 45 days. Left court crying and screaming
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Ouch!
I'll bet she learned her lesson!

Ouch! I only got 7!

Turkey test...

http://home.aristotle.net/Thanksgiving/trivia.asp

Ouch.
Situations like yours are why we hear stories about senior citizens married 50 years getting divorced and then living in sin... because of the benefit and tax code "gotchas."

I am truly sorry to hear about your situation, and wish I had some words of wisdom for you. I have a 23-year-old relative who is disabled (and already on social security at her tender age), her only assets are a beat up car and a drawer full of thong underwear she bought when she was able to work, she's single, she has no children, she has no money--and she's not eligible for Medicaid? Excuse me? I can only think it's because she's not a pregnant illegal alien.

Yes, the system is screwed.

Ouch!
Have no legal advice to offer, but you might want to check with any Legal Aid agencies in your area, and even women's shelters. Maybe you're not being physically battered (at least I HOPE you are not!) but emotional and psychological battery can be just as damaging. Meanwhile, do you have a place to go when he kicks you out? Do you have your own bank account(s)? If not, suggest that be the FIRST thing you do. Any chance you could steal back the spare car key?

And of course I know nothing about your situation... but maybe if you don't act hostile or belligerent towards him, you can catch him off balance just enough to put yourself at an advantage; for instance, do NOT let on that you might try to steal back your spare car key! And then he might leave the keys lying around. Just don't leave YOURS lying around.

And if you have a place to go (be it a friend's place, or a relative's place), you might see what you can do about quietly starting to stash some things there, i.e. personal keepsakes, important documents, etc.

Again, only you know what you might be up against. But please, PLEASE come back often and let us know what's going on and how you are doing!

OUCH!!

Ouch. Yes, Romey is so right. They actually are
not getting declawed as vets would like us to think - its a big $$ maker for vets - but removing their bones - like taking our fingers off halfway at the 2nd or 3rd joint. I declawed 2 cats about 25 years ago - totally ignorant of the reality of it - and I have NEVER forgiven myself. And one of the cats - 2 brothers - got out accidentally and lost his life because he could not climb a tree or anything and get away from a neighbor's dog. Please reconsider. I have 2 male cats now - just over 1 year, and they do absolutely nothing damaging - one is fixed, one is not. We just have several scratch posts and a kitty condo, and lots of little toys. Can you hang in there and try just a bit more?

Ouch! That must hurt. Sorry.
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LOL-OMG ouch! That would hurt!! sm
Anyway, I understood what you meant. This denture thing is all new to me. I never realized I would have to learn to eat all over again. It was more of a necessity than an option to get them. I have a full upper and a lower partial so it's only the top I am having trouble with. Feels better right now since Dr. ground down the annoying edge. Have to go back Tuesday and I think he will knock down the other side just a hair. Now, just to get the partial tightened up enough to quit popping out when I move my tongue...... Also, thanks for the tip on the Camphopenique. I'll try that!

Ouch! I'll say they hurt!

I've played paintball and it hurts through several layers of clothing.

I don't know what the problem is either. My kids definitely have more stuff than I ever did. We got cable TV when I was in high school in 1983 and thought I had died and gone to heaven. Who knows what is going through their minds, but thank goodness for MY good kids, too.

Ouch! Poor kitty!

I know when I tore mine I was in agony...heck, even years later it still throbs and aches when it's cold and damp. I have absolutely no advice. I'm sure she's getting spoiled and you are taking great care of her. Just wanted to offer up my 'Get well wishes' for you both!

Ouch - my husband had to come clean to me too sm
I was very upset. Physically sickened, the whole range of emotional distress.

Then I realized that it wasn't just about him or about me, it was our family. The kids would really suffer.

Believe me, it was no easy thing for him either. I had helped him get out of a sticky financial situation before, right after his divorce from his ex-wife.

I thought everything was all good. I could not have been more wrong.

So after the initial shock of it wore off, we sat down and discussed the situation.

There were still tears of frustration, anger, and all of that from me but there were also some tears from him too, having taken it so far and keeping me in the dark.

He knew exactly what he had risked but realized it a little too late to fix it on his own. He had no choice but to come clean.

He was absolutely drowning in it but he decided it was better that I hear it from him, rather than having collection agencies start calling constantly.

Your husband needs to hear it from you.

Maybe if you printed these discussions and had him read through them it might ease it just a little.

I wouldn't expect miracles but wouldn't you rather hear it from him if the tables were turned?

Our marriage was pretty rocky before this happened too. It's still not the best but we are trying to make it work.

Financial infidelity is probably as hard on a marriage as cheating. The deception and sneaking around -- trying to cover your tracks. You may not realize the exact depth of stress you are putting on yourself with trying to hide this.

You said you love him. That's the biggest thing.

The crud will only keep getting deeper until you start shoveling.

Come clean with him and let him help you figure out what to do.

Telling him the truth is going to be the hardest part.

Good luck to you.

OUCH! My husband is out of town so he asked me sm

to go to the pool store, take them a sample of our water and then do whatever the pool people say to do. So, our ph is down in our pool and we're supposed to add 10 pounds of alkalinity to it. No problem. Our pool is quite large - 20 x 40. I never add chemicals to them. That's his job, but we wanted to be in it by Memorial Day so I figure I could at least go and get whatever chemicals and then add them. No problem. Mind you, I am a huge klutz - accident just waiting to happen!

I begin walking around the pool pouring in this big box of chemicals. I go over the diving board, around to the other side of the pool and then I'm almost done. As I round the corner of the pool all of a sudden something horrible happens! My left leg completely fell into this huge hole and I go flying! I think I broke my left ankle! My husband forgot to put the cover back over the pool filter! What was he thinking?? So, there I was, all alone on the pool sidewalk, foot stuck inside filter, cannot move, elbow all scraped up and it is painful!!! OMG! I could not believe it!

So, I finally pull my foot up and it is completely torn up! It looks like it was stabbed with a knife in a couple of places. I'm not sure what it hit that made it look and feel like that.

I'm contemplating going to the ER because if it isn't broken it's at least sprained, plus 2 huge lacerations.

My husband, who has a sense of humor, will call me an idiot for not watching where I was going. But, who's the idiot who left the filter cover off? Not me! I'm glad it was my left and not my right so I can at least work while I heal....