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WHAT????? Not talking about the trial

Posted By: ss on 2007-09-14
In Reply to: Some of the public really OJ haters, myself - Oh, well

some what now 13 years ago?? and so did I watch it. I am talking about what is happening today or what happened yesterday in Las Vegas. ME AND OTHERS CANNOT SEEM TO GET OVER WHAT A JURY DECIDES AND THEIR WORD IS FINAL??? NEVERMIND.


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...and after the trial?
What's your plan for moving upward and onward?

I wonder if you'd allow me to presume on some years of experience by asking you to really examine the core issue here, namely "I still love him".

I'm not saying you don't, but I wonder whether this is actually "partner-for-life" love which absolutely depends on a foundation of mutual respect, which I believe he has thoroughly destroyed.

There seem to be all kinds of feelings that women can have for men that they call "love", but they're not the kind of love that forms the basis for the intimacy on every level that life-partners need.

A woman can have motherly love for a misbehaving partner. A woman can love a false image of a partner. A woman can love what the partner used to be. A woman can love what she believes the partner could be. The list goes on.

When it comes to partner love, all of these others are really counterfeits and/or substitutes, and none of them provide a reason to stay together.

Over the years that I dealt with domestic disputes - and especially those that had a component of substance abuse - I never saw one of them that got better, and they usually deteriorated. That's why I hope you have a plan for moving onward and upward.


No - I did not watch the trial

start to finish, as I had to work.  I lived in LA at that time.  I think the timing of this was crucial - just after the Rodney King debacle.  I think Johnnie Cochran was very charming and had that jury in the palm of his hands.  I think the investigation was botched.  I'm not an expert on the trial and it's true, I don't know everything about it, but just my opinion.  Even if he didn't do it, who in the heck would write this kind of book - it's just distgustingly insensitive to the victim's family, who think he did do it and who were there from start to finish. 


Oh, then I am sure you saw the wrong trial
because if you watched from start to finish as I did, I could never have convicted from what I saw. The papers and the trial were so far apart I could not believe it. One case in point - just about the glove- There was a piece of paper, receipt, that showed SOMETHING bought at the store in the accessory department, had no mention of a glove, a scarf, wallet- no numbers to match up and YET, it had his wife as buying a pair of gloves there- that put enough doubt in my mind but I am sure you did not see the same thing or you might have had doubts.
But why not a trial separation?
DH says he'll take me back if I don't like being separated. I didn't ask him that - he volunteered that. A sister got divorced and she's glad she did it. She remarried. I just want to date, not get married or live with a man at this point.
Im not talking about a check. Im talking about a positive administration working FOR Americans and
Not receiving a check each month to help us out is not what got us in this mess...
Believe me,. if you stiill love him, go to the trial
what will send him to jail.
Do you never ask yourself 'Does he love me?'

The situation is so deteriorated that it is not anymore in your hand to solve it all alone, you need help.
He blames you for everything that went and is going wrong.
You need to wake up and so does he.
If you want to rescue the son and show and guide him what 'justice' is, testify. Only this can and will make you strong.

I am not sure but I have the feeling that you are afraid what he might do to you when he is released from prison? Get immediatley a restraining order.

What's the difference between talking on cell and talking to person sitting across from you?
You should be ignoring people at other tables and MYOB.
OJ book and trial, innocent or guilty?
I saw the message about OJ and the book about whether or not he actually did the crime. What I would like to know from the MTers discussing this, did any of you watch the trial from start to finish? The newspapers, television shows, etc. most all the time fabricated parts leaning towards his part in this crime. I saw it all from start to finish, every single day and after that made my own decision regarding the guilt or innocence, not by what I read in the papers or heard on the news. The most important piece of "evidence" supposedly was the glove issue. The trial showed a receipt from a store from accessories. Never ever did they match a scanned number, price, date bought or whatever with the glove buying, but then again I guess most of you watched all the trial?
Phil Spector murder trial. Anyone

been watching that on Court TV?  Don't you think Phil Spector, with his "new hair do", looks like Pee Wee  Herman????  LOL.


They have been off for the past 2 days due to one of the defense lawyers having to go to the hospital.  Kind of interesting to watch trials on T.V.


Perfume samples/trial sizes

I'd like to be able to buy some trial/samples of various perfumes.  I've found a few random ones, even free ones, but I'd like to be able to try some of the expensive brands by just purchasing those small samples or trial sizes.  So far I haven't found a very large selection of these websites and the ones I have found only had a few fragrances from which to choose.  Anyone know where I can go to buy these for a decent price?


Thanks.


She wasn't talking to you, BTW. She was talking about the 2 posters below! nm
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Am not talking politics here at all, talking
about how she views the southern culture which apparently she knows very little. I do not care about her politics- what I care about is by making a statement like that only shows a persons ignorance. My maid is working today, has lived in the gettos all her life in a big city and when I asked her about it she said something she has not seen in maybe 30 years. In her neighborhood there is all sort of crime that goes on (well, that is about everywhere) but if anyone would see it she would be 1. Like I say, could care less about Whoopie's political views other than the fact she got that wrong. Neil Boortz also was saying the same,;he said she was probably still holding the south in such a light because of her inability to go into a upper class restaurant here in town dressing in blue jeans. Being as she was born in NYC, we southerns still say da.n yankees! So true here.
Look who's talking!
So what are you doing here? Also, it should be "as well as the ones WHO answered this", by the way.
look whose talking too!

Maybe that is me you are talking about?
Hey, I thought I was consoling when I said that maybe she had religion in her heart but hey, read into it whatever you want. You cannot save everyone and if she had wanted to hear you, you would not have been hushed. I lost my grandmother 30 years ago and I was extremely close to her and visited her often. I remember her fondly. I for 1 do not believe that only Christians are the chosen ones so if your grandmother was another religion that you do not approve of, she might have picked the right one, who knows? My heart was in the right place when I answered you but apparently you thought otherwise.
If a guy is still talking to his

and they have no kids together, been divorced almost a year, that's bad, right?


She cheated, why would he want to talk to her still?


that's OK. keep talking.
She really has her heart set on Pratt so spending 4 days in Brooklyn to learn her way around a little. She is a thrift store junkie so we will be exploring Park Slope and Williamsburg anyway. Juniors sounds like a definite. Thank you so much. So much to choose from, we never know where to begin, but we are both adventurous eaters and willing to try anything. We will both have a big huge fattening piece of cheesecake for you! Brooklyn gardens has been on my list for years so this is the year for that also.


But it is CNN along with others, we are not talking
about talk, regular every day news, local, nightly. As far as the newspapers, I learned several years ago the news terribly slanted and now the news is sensationalized. These stories I listed are on CNN news page as we speak.
What are you talking about???????????????
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that's what I was talking about...

and we have an owl on this property (that nobody can see) for a couple of years and he/she does hoot and sometimes his/her hoot can go on for hours and all different times of the day/evening.  Been living here for 17 years on this property and while I have always *heard* this owl occasionally....his/her hooting has increased tenfold over time.


Last night the birds were chirping big time around 11 pm or midnight!  I just don't get it......well, I DO get it....and it's scary....*thoughts of the future and the environment*


 


not really...we have tried talking to them about it before but they don't get it...
We are always doing something and I just find it so rude that we don't even get a phone call before stopping over...we love having them but just want a little respect in that area...My parents always call before coming over...
can you use (is this what you are talking about)
the inexpensive throws you see everywhere - rolled up - like big lots and target - I am not spending a lot this year and have two adult daughters who are always cold - this sounds so cool.
Just talking about this
Had my mother lived, she would be incensed. We have bent over backwards trying to be correct while our freedoms, celebrations, what have you are disappearing. There are all kind of people in the work force, you cannot please each and every one. It is like a person not liking a particular television show, darn turn it off, don’t look, don’t join in with the rest but to say they don’t believe in it?? I don’t believe in a lot of others beliefs but I leave them alone, I do not try to push my beliefs, values on them. We are slowly losing our country, little by little.
Just talking about this...
I would like to say that I am of the Jewish faith, and I have always went along with the Christmas Parties, etc. It doesn't offend me as I know that the majority celebrates Christmas. I am married to a Christian, so we celebrate both. My children are versed in both religions and I think that it will make them more rounded individuals when they get older. So don't go slamming everyone for their beliefs. Everyone's different.

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, and Happy Kwanzaa!
I really don’t know what you are talking about
I said sorry for the child taking irradiation- I said we all have problems - we do. I said thought 14 too old for paddling - I do. The original poster put in about the padded panties and how her bottom looked or should look without the bruising. Where do I come off being horrible? Do not understand your post. She has gone into much detail about the wheres and whys and how the paddling to take place. I still find that really, really strange and question the validity of that.
Exactly what I'm talking about..sm
People so bitter around here for something that is happening to another person that will in no way affect them or their tax dollars, and here they want to whine about it. It is not your life, it is not your daughter's life, so why not just leave it be if you have nothing nice to say? Bah. Old biddies I guess ;)
If you really want to get them talking
If you don't care what she says about you, you could always ask her if she has had her rabies shot today. Then say "Yeah, I wanted to give you something else you can talk to other people about me behind my back". But then again, if you have to be around her the best advice is what everyone else said...stay away from her. She is definitely mentally imbalanced. I used to belong t a quilting group and this one lady would talk about church, church, church, sunday school, we did this and we did that, we do good things for people, and then in the same breath talk really nasty about people. One time she said such an insensitive remark to me about my husband (whom she had never met) I left in the middle of my lesson in tears and never went back to that group and joined another. I never gave this lady a chance to say another mean word to me. People like this are just truly ignorant. I call them energy vampires. They suck all the energy right out of you and believe me, they are out there. Best of luck to you.
Are you actually talking about someone else? sm
Maybe a friend you fell out with and you know she reads this board? If you really are talking about yourself, go talk to a doctor and get some antidepressants :-)
wth are you talking about?
not sure how you figure insurnace companies charge you for other people's kids...
i know what you are talking about sm
i'm fascinated with spirit stuff. i know what orbs are. maybe i should take some pictures around our house. we haven't had any family pass. he explains to me what the ghost looks like. once he said he saw the grim reaper in the bath tub. i don't in anyway put these ideas in his head. i don't even bring them up. but when he brings them up, i don't brush it off, i ask him what he saw, if he was scared, if they talk to him. i don't want him to feel like he can't come to me and tell me these things. my hubby on the other hand, doesn't believe in that stuff, and i haven't even told him that our 6 y/o says he sees stuff like that. he'd think i was feeding it in his head, but i don't. i had a dream once when i was pregnant with my first son. it was the most amazing dream i had ever had. i dream in color, and they seem so real. anyway, i was pregnant with my first kid, didn't know what i was having at the time of this dream. in my dream an angel came to me (she looked like my mom --- my mom is still alive) and she was holding a baby. it was a baby boy. after i had my first boy, he looked exactly like the baby in my dream that the angel was holding. it was just amazing!!!!
Are you talking about
David Duchovny from the x-files?  If so, I have been moderately obsessed with him since the 90's.  :) 
Yes. I think I had what you are talking about,
but thankfully mine did not last that long.  I still from time to time will get it, but again very briefly.  Hope it gets better for you very soon. 
are you talking about
the graduation party being the night of graduation? HOW COMPLETELY RUDE for the sis-in-law to say that! The wedding date isn't set yet, its not YOUR fault if they decide that month that weekend, etc! How selfish of her to send that nasty e-mail! I'm so sorry! Graduation is a big deal, they can get married any day, any time of year, graduation is not any time of the year. If they set it on that weekend AFTER you already sent the save-the-date email, that would make me feel they are being selfish too. I'm sorry you're having such a bah-humbug time of year!!
DH and I were just talking about this
last night. We saw the Shamwow guy's new infomercial for the chopper...listen closely to the chopped nuts part if you see it. We think he is the next generation of Mays. At least the Shamwow guy is hysterical.
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????????????
say the baby "dropped" as in dropped into your pelvis??? I'm seriously hoping that was a joke!!!
WHAT are you talking about?
No one here is saying anything about where it came from. Most have the sense to know it was a gift, already heard. We are talking pets, not politics.
you might be talking about the BMI....nm
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I think what she was talking about
is about single parents - not having the mother or father present but still can raise your kids right...like my daddy did with me :)
We were just talking about that!
That's so funny - I was talking to my best friend on the phone and we said the same thing. She said she thought Debbie Rowe had made some effort to get back in the kids lives and, if so (and assuming she isn't a complete nut job), she should get the two back that are definitely hers.

Are you talking about the 1 on the
gurney with him being intubated?
Talking about dieting, has anyone

used Hoodia and if so, what kind of success have you had with it?


That's what we're talking about
It turns out he stood me up because he had been told I was too young for him, and didn't know how to say it. Yeah, that sounds lame, I know, but I believe him. We were only kids.

Anyway, we've talked about, if it lasts, sticking it out till we're old and gray, and eventually meeting again when we're both free. This may or may not happen. NOne of us are getting any younger. And, no, I'm not going to just sit around waiting for my husband to die. I've had a full life for 41 years - I can wait another thirty if necessary.
Are they talking laparoscopic?
I think the worse it is, the harder it is to do laparoscopically. It is much less painful to recover from the laparoscopic procedure. The surgery is routine, but there can still be complications, so just make sure you have an experienced surgeon and see what he or she says. And let people know so they can pray for you.
I'm not talking about her talent, but rather
her not being a good role model. I just don't see how that description fits.
It seems to me the person should be talking
to the person they are having dinner with and not someone on a phone. And as posted below, they usually have to talk rather loud and I do find that annoying.
My friend and I were just talking about that
I was over watching AI with her and she mentioned the same thing without even actually knowing about it. It was just a guess on her part.
He probably did it to keep people talking about him...sm
I do agree with Simon's comments about him, though. I thought Gina did the best she had ever sung last night and of course Lakeisha & Melinda were awesome. The guys overall still stink - out of the thousands that auditioned they should have picked better ones.
Talking to the ex-wife
Your boyfriend/husband talks to his ex-wife because he is mature. She means nothing to him. He would be with her, not you, if that was his choice. Don't you have ex-boyfriends? Do you speak when you meet them in the street? Please don't go down this road or you will experience a LOT of pain. You cannot ever "make" someone be faithful to you. Either they are or they are not. Dogs need to be tossed aside because life is too short. Work on your self-esteem. Choking someone to death with your insecurity and jealousy is the quickest way to make your boyfriend/husband say, "Bye-bye." My grown children stay with my husband's ex-wife when they are in her city visiting. We have had her over for Thanksgiving dinner. Was it 100% comfortable? No, but we did it for the children. Everyone has a past when they are over 18. Accept it, don't make it bigger than it is, and enjoy your relationship. That is very good advice.
Have no idea what you are talking about?
Give me a clue- I said I watched the trial every day and I read the papers also and found so many facts stated in my paper in Atlanta that was not in the trial. I kept up with it every day and know what I saw and read. Give me a clue as to where I am right and others wrong- don’t catch your drift.
I never could stand all the talking over each other.
From the very beginning, it seemed like at least 3 of them were so excited to talk they were hyperventilating and jumping in and talking over each other. Not my cup of tea.


I'm not talking about *retaliation*!!
I'm really sick and tired of people just letting their teenagers do whatever and say whatever the heck they want! This is absurd to allow a teenage boy to talk to a grown woman this way and that whole "boys will be boys" crap is getting really old too! I guess I was just talk manners and respect, which really seems to be lacking in these kids nowadays. We recently moved to the East Coast from the Midwest and maybe this is just how people raise their kids and don't teach them how to act here?! I mean honestly if you heard your son talking to a grown woman this way, would you be okay with it???? I sure hope not or you need some serious help! I know if my husband was here he would go talk to them and tell them that this is completely inappropriate to talk to a woman this way or defend my "honor" as they say, but I was hoping to get some snappy comebacks from you people to say to them that would stop them in their tracks or maybe even make them really think about what they did/said.