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huh? boys much easier? NOT...NM

Posted By: with boys/men it turns out to be ALL ABOUT THEM on 2007-05-05
In Reply to: And much easier to deal with - Jewell

     


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Which are easier to raise -- boys or girls?
I was always told boys.  I had 2 girls and uff-dah what a hormonal nightmare.  Now I have a teenage boy and those hormones are at least as bad.  Prolly worse.
Easier said that done...
he gets a telephone call every a.m. to be called to work and that wakes me anyway. Then he's gone for 14 to 16 hours a day, so we used that 1/2 hour or so in the am to catch up with each other. Can't get back to sleep right away, so why not type and make a few $$$. You just do what you gotta do. Mamma never told me life would be easy
this should really be easier!

 







Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?


Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died.


Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned.


 


 


Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured.


Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War.


They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.


 


 


What kind of men were they?


Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners: men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.


 


 


Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts and died in rags.


Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.


 


 


Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.


 


Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.


 


 


Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall and straight, and unwavering, they pledged: For the support of the declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.


 


 


They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't fight just the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government!


Some of us take these liberties so much for granted, but we shouldn't. So take a few minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.


 


 


 


Sometimes easier said than done.
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Good job!!! Keep it up. It will get easier
I am going on two years of "cold turkey". I wish you the best, it is worth it.
And much easier to deal with
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That's cool, but for me it's easier to
grow the flowers than keep the feeder clean and filled. Cause I'd have some kind of flowers anyway, LOL.
Is it me or do the guys have it easier?!

How come a guy can waltz in and land the high-paying job without a degree, yet the woman has to have the proof of degree in hand, the multiple references (which with us are ALWAYS checked--men hardly ever), and the johnny-on-the-spot answers to such stupid-ass questions as, "If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?"  ...all for a job (whether it's this field or whatever) with crappy benefits and crappy pay and even crappier treatment when you want time to also do the most noble thing of all and be a mother. 


This was in easier times...
when MTing was still a lucrative profession with good line rates and a better economy.
Dating's easier said that done
I miss dating. For me, there's a satisfaction or companionship that I get from a male partner that I don't get from work or family. Unfortunately, living where I do and working like I do, I'm not really coming across a lot of available ones. With my children's blessing, I've done internet dating, but the last couple of times have turned out very very badly. There aren't a lot of social venues where I am so I'm out of luck there. The one guy I dated told me that a single employed 'mature' woman, I was a bit of a commodity as there has been an exodus out of the rural areas, but that has not translated into my dance card being filled. Oh, well. I probably shouldn't let myself be distracted from work anyway. But, gosh, I miss a deep male voice asking me how I'm doing.
Yes but found they get stained easier
the more you bleach them, kind of like once you start it you have to do it all the time. The teeth become porous from the bleach and then just grab color/stains, especially if you drink coffee/cola. Sort of like when you bleach hair. Just what I have observed.
MT way sounds much easier and quicker.
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Those are so cute and fun to decorate. Easier
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yes, getting in touch with Talon might be easier. Thanks nm
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My youngest is much easier than the older 2 were...
With my oldest 2, it was easy before they turned 18 - they HAD to be in by 11:00 because of junior licenses. After they turned 18, I think it was 10 on school nights and midnight on weekends unless they were spending the night somewhere. DD was the one to argue at every turn. Drove us crazy. Now my youngest DS on the other hand, is such a homebody. He got his license in October and he doesn't go further than a mile or so to hang out with his friends or his cousin. That might all change some day, so we'll see.
Because I choose not too...I am not complaining, just said it would be easier.
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easier to blame you than look in the mirror!
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You can, but I find iTunes to be easier.
iTunes and iPods play well together. Rhapsody works, but it will put music in a different library on your computer unless you specify that iTunes and Rhapsody are using the same. Also, anything you purchase through the iTunes Store can be transferred from your iPod to your computer. That came in handy when my hard drive died! I hear that you can do that with your non-iTunes purchases, but it sounded complicated to me. I just find iTunes is easier to deal with.
Agreed--harnesses are much easier & safer :)

When we lived in the city, we let both of our cats out on leashes but they wore harnesses, mainly so they couldn't slip loose.  They did start out as kittens with them though, not as adult cats.  They would hear me jingle their leashes and harnesses and come RUNNING to be tied outside to the little backyard there.  They absolutely loved it and the worst that would happen is they would get tangled to each other and around a bush.  I was always around to supervise though...usually enjoying morning coffee out on the back deck listening to the thumping cars and sirened-vehicles drive by.  Man do I miss the city--NOT! 


Good luck with your kitty!  I'm sure you'll be fine!   


This will make identity theft easier. Our DMV had the
computers stolen, and so whoever did it had access to personal information. Now they will have all the personal information they need without having to dig for it. Homeland Security and other government agencies have had computers stolen.

As far as electronic tracking, not long ago there was a push to have micro chips implanted in all school kids.


Definitely boys for me.
nm
23 and 24 with my boys...sm

I used to be able to climb trees and did the iron kids triathelon with them....  


My sister had her child at 42....the only girl outta 7 grandchildren....guess who's grandma's princess?      


oh boys
will be boys!
boys
My son is 15 and I cannot tell you how many interviews and interrogations we have had to go through. Every time he has been on a date the parents want to meet us and see our house, etc. I has been a flipping nightmare, especially since these little flings last about a week and are over after the dance! In my humble opinion, find her something else to do. That is what I have had to do with my son. I just can't take the pain anymore. Join some super busy, mega overly scheduled adult supervised something! Shoo, shoo, mama is working!
I don't think so. I have 2 boys. They have

proven that circumcision can be beneficial for several reasons, not to mention it is more hygienic.  I was conflicted with my first son because my OB/GYN was against it.  She was African-American and I don't know if it was a cultural thing or what.  She did do my son, but she didn't take enough off, it wasn't her decision to make.  My second son I didn't hesitate. 


My mom said that at 8 days she took my brothers to be circumcised - based on the Bible.


I can't see how it would be called abuse.  I think it is personal choice.  I can't tell you how many reports I've done on men over 50 who have had problems and have had to be circumcised. 


Two boys
I have 2 boys; 24 and 19.  The older one moved away to college, the school dropped his program after 2 years, so he floundered and moved back home.  After 6 months told him get a job, pay his bills, go to school or get out.  He went to work FT and paid all his own bills, moved out for a few months with some guys (who did not pay their share of the rent) and then moved back home, went back to college, has made the honor roll for the last year while working, just started in 2009 charging him room and board as he is after all 24.  Other son 19, almost lost him to bad decisions and bad friends at 14-15 but is on the right track now; in college and working PT, pays his bills.  He goes to the community college, looking into a 2+2 program, told him to go away for the last 2 years as he will get the experience of being on his own without being totally on his own.  He has a serious girlfriend. I am more worried about those 2 getting an apartment together first and then him not finishing school.  Older son is working on buying a house within 18 months and younger son will live with him (if not with girlfriend first.)  I have to say I'm looking forward to an empty nest.
While I don't have boys but -sm
two young girls, 9 and 10, for years I would cover for my DH, get the card, mail it to his mom, make him call her on Mother's Day (remind him 50x)....For years when my kids were babies I would get nothing from him, because as he would say, I was not his mother. Well what about those two squirmy kids of ours, I am their mother. I told him he needed to help them and get a card from them to give to me, or help them make me a card, whatever that did not matter. (I have always made sure he got something from the kids on Father's day). The kids have been able to be the ones to remind him now for the last few years about special days, Mother's Day and my birthday which is great. I don't want much, just a card and Happy B or Mom day, just acknowledgement basically. He had some sort of epiphany a year or two ago and now sends his mom flowers every Mom Day and at Christmas, think this was the 3rd one in a row(guilt and belief they are dying coming to bear now, MIL is 74 but doing quite well), still did not send her a card though, figured the card with the flowers was enough. I made him go out an buy the card (instead of me coving his butt as usual). We all signed it and he mailed it. I never missed with my mom and did something every year until she died. She kept ever one of my cards too, found them after she died. ---I would still send your son a card on his birthday but leave the money out, betcha that will grab his attention. ----My DH doesn't remember anyone's birthday, he forgot mine a few times which stunk. I take care of getting the cards, mailing them, etc., though refuse to do Mom day anymore, I still have to nag at him to call his mom, dad on their birthdays, etc. Some guys are just lazy and don't want to be bothered with it.
Two boys.
I have 2 boys and enjoy them immensely. The oldest drives me nuts with some of the decisions he makes. He is funny, easy going, lots of friends and just doesn't take life too seriously.

My youngest is 17. He is very smart, has big plans for college and career (he says, you don't have to understand what it is mom, you just have to pay for it). My regret is that I wish I'd had more kids. I would take a whole house full of boys. So much fun!!
I raised 2 boys on my own.
Maybe some of these techniques that assisted me can do the same for you:

1) Literally write down a list of rules that you want observed in your home. Not what you think you can get him to do but what you actually WANT. Make copies for his bedroom, for the refrigerator, for his billfold, for every room you can. (I printed mine off and framed them in certificate frames and hung them up. Be specific. Cover all areas.)

2) Literally write down behaviors and language you are not going to tolerate and rank them.

2) Literally write down a list of everything that is important to this youngster. Include friends (by name), electronics (iPod, computer, etc.), privileges (telephone, friends coming over, going out, driving), and places he enjoys going (movies, sports events, eating establishments, etc.). Rank these in order of importance to him.

3) If possible, have your husband (separated, correct?) to meet with you first and agree and provide a united front. Agree on what you expect of him as his parents, what is best for his wellbeing. Write down how you will construct discipline and dispense punishment. Make it appropriate, reasonable and, above all, something you will actually do.

5) Have a meeting with your son (and your husband, if he is onboard with you). Give your son a copy of the new rules, the discipline tactics, the unacceptable behaviors and the punishments. Go over each one of them. Don't argue. Don't explain too much. The lists are clear. Everything has a yes/no as to its use and everything has an if with it as well.

Here's the hardest part: Do what you say. If his language is offensive, he can't talk on the phone. Period. No exceptions, period. Even if you have to unplug it and keep the cord in your pocket. Never argue; never raise your voice. Just calmly make your statement and leave it alone. The more he carries on, the more trouble he will incur. Let him handle the stress of it. If you protect him from the consequences of his actions, he will never, ever change and never learn. (Warning: His behavior WILL get worse before it gets better and then it will wax/wane on occasion just to test the waters.)

Stay with him after school in his tutoring. I showed at school one day in high school for my oldest. One day for 2 classes and that was all it ever took. Made the difference with my youngest, too! Neither one wanted me showing up and sitting next to him in class! Be there but let the teacher do the tutoring. Just be there to enforce his attendance and understand what is happening in the sessions.

Praise good/changed behavior but do not reward it. If it is behavior you are wanting to be an expected behavior, praise it, acknowledge it. Reward exceptional behavior that goes beyond what you have set rules for.

Make sure he is involved in his own caretaking: Laundry, specific chores (no pay -- no ma'am, do not pay any child to contribute to their household), help cook one night a week, yard work, etc.

Be watchful of his music, TV watching, movie going. These can have just as devastating of an impact on him as his so-called friends. Make sure you know who his friends' parents are, what they do; do you agree with how they live? How these friends act? If not, restrict his activities with them.

Get him involved in some type of sport he enjoys and into a youth group if at all possible. It is important.

I hope these tips will help you as much as they did me.
my boys are warriors
Both have been deployed at one time or another to Iraq. One is there now. The other boy told me that he had gone to the funeral of one of his brave friends who had been killed. Those horrible people were there from Kansas, but the Harley people were there also, 200 to 300 of them, each holding a flag, protecting the family of the soldier from the disgusting behavior of that supposed church. Made chills go up and down my spine. Can you imagine that many flags in one place being used to protect a family! GO HARLEY WARRIORS!
boys or girl
I have 2 of each (yes 4 in all) and I would defitenly say boys right now. My kids are still young so may be my mind will change with age!
Boys do go through stages.
On the other hand, depression can come out as anger.

I think mothers are supposed to help their kids understand their feelings and talk to them, but it can be difficult to get boys to express themselves.

It's think it's a normal stage to go through for boys to just be annoyed by girls because girls are so talkative and different, sometimes dating-obsessed or gossip-obsessed or whatever, and for a boy it's annoying.

Maybe he doesn't enjoy competing with a girl who is older.

I think he would rather spend time with boys right now, but boys need something to do together so they stay out of trouble.

But he needs to realize that he doesn't really hate girls. He just doesn't enjoy the different developmental stages they go through. And your daughter might benefit from knowing how males' brains work - that guys don't admire girls who are obsessed about stuff they think is silly.

Just some thoughts. Parenting is hard, but respect for siblings should be taught, and some space from each other can go a long way.
That's for sure and something I hear over and over. Boys
s
To me it always seems to be harder on the boys (sm)
My husband are like that - oil and water for sure. We just can hardly stand to live together anymore. We have been trying to stay together for the kids for years.

How did affect you and your sister?? Would it have been better if they had stayed together or was it just a bad situation either way? I feel like I am choosing the lesser of the evils.
My boys had to pay me twice as much as their tickets sm
If the ticket was 50.00, they had to pay me 100.00, too. No ifs, ands or buts. Didn't have to take away the keys. This worked every time. They are all good drivers now. None of the speed.
The first of my new boys has arrived. (sm)

Introducing Teddy!  He's a Schipperke mix, only about 20 lb.  He has a tail, which is very cute and curled, but he's hiding it.  I'm new at photographing black dogs, but I think it turned out okay for a first try.  He's already had a bath and flea treatment with Frontline Plus, because we're in the South and he had fleas. 


 


Here is a picture of our 3 boys - SM
Max, Scooter, and Bailey
For those of you with teenage boys
I just wanted to share this.  Yesterday my 16 yo son said to me, "Mom we should make some Christmas cookies."  My older 2 aren't home from college yet so it is just he and I.  I bought all the colored sugars, we put on Xmas music and he helped me make the dough, cut out the cookies and decorate them.  I share this only because if you have a teenage son you know this is highly unusual when what they really want is to hang out with their friends and play loud music and talk about girls!  It really touched me that we  had this special time together.  I am blessed to have him for a son. 
That's the other thing my boys want

--- a tattoo.  I told them they could get the airbrush ones at the beach this summer.  They're saving up.  No permanent ones until they're 18 and they can pay for it.


My sister got one in high school and my parents never knew it until years later.  They were still po'ed.  My fear with real tattoos is hepatitis.  Again, if they're going to do it (which we all know they will), better to have it done professionally.


As a mom of 2 boys, now older,
who played baseball and hockey, do your son a favor and refrain from making a scene. It's embarrassing for him and puts such a negative tone on the game for all the kids. Be the better person, take the higher ground, keep your mouth closed and realize this should be fun for the KIDS.
I have 3 boys, so I can somewhat relate

It seems I can take privileges away from my oldest and it works very well.  My younger one, however, doesn't seem to care.  What does bother him is sitting on time-out.  I read a few books and they say the length of the timeout should be equal to the age - 5 years old then 5-minute timeout.  This frustrates him more because he likes to be in control and when I put him on timeout, he has no control.  I usually sit him at the dining room chair - no TV, no toys.  I use the timer on the microwave, so he can hear it when he beeps.  He knows to push the chair in when he gets up.  If he does something shortly thereafter, I double the length of the timeout.  A few times of this and eventually they catch on.


As for harming the dogs, I would probably keep them in a certain area of the house where I could see them.  At least then you know if he's doing something to them and hopefully can stop him before he really hurts them. 


As tempting as it is, name-calling will not teach your child anything but name-calling.  Taunting him with this is probably not a good idea.  If he continues to lie, I would continue to put him on timeout or take away privileges depending on the extent of the lie and the circumstances.


I know it's hard, but consistency is the key.  Eventually, he will learn.  It just takes some kids longer than others.


Why boys need parents...
This is for those mother's of boys, sisters of boys, and boys that have grown older and anyone else who needs a laugh.
11 year old boys
I am in the same boat. My son does all the things yours is doing right now. Right down to the shower. I am not sure if your son is, but my son has OCD (obsessive complusive disorder)this is worse when he is stressed. He was diagnosed at the age of 3, no he is not on meds and I have used behavior modification for him. Yes the modification works just as well without the harmful side effects of a drug.

I can pass on a few things I have found that work. Only make an issue out of things that can hurt himself or others. Like the hair, yep in the eyes is a pain, but it will not hurt him or anyone and he has control of that. Clothes are the same way, again this is something that at 11 he has control of. I think that is what he is frustrated about. Everything seems out of his control to him. So he is 11 and is stressed and crying is his way right now of letting things out. By allowing him to have control over the smaller things, maybe that will put things into perspective for him again.

Good luck I hope I have helped you in some way.
On boys and Gardasil

I have thought the same thing before, about it being only for females, and found that in Australia it is also available for males.  IMHO, promiscuity is certainly not exclusive to males, but I believe it is more common (at least it used to be), so seems like they are the ones that are more culpable for the spreading of HPV.  It's the whole playboy generation gone wild.


Also, just heard a few days ago about HPV being a cause of oral cancer.  Wondered how long it would take them to make the link.


I live in Georgia and had not heard that it is mandatory for females here, but read that most states that are considering mandatory inoculation and have introduced a bill also have an "opt out" clause.


If I had a daughter or daughters, I do not think that I would be rushing out to have them inoculated.


Both my boys have tracfones..........sm
or at least until the youngest lost his, LOL.

My oldest son's tracfone has texting capabilities but I don't know if all of them do. His is Motorola flip phone. I don't know the number on it, but it is thin and black.

The minutes don't expire as long as you purchase and redeem air time cards when they are due. Hope this helps.
I have 2 tuxedo boys and they
are my loves. Brothers, 1 looks like he ate the house (22 lbs) and his brother not far behind him. You certainly have a good looking guy and I am sure he will give you so much love. Our furries are so special to us and we to them.
In your opinion, do you think boys can have

a Hope Chest also?  Watching my kids this Christmas and with one getting ready to graduate high school, I realized they will be starting out with nothing.  I have 2 boys and wondered if a "Hope Chest" would be appropriate. 


What would you include?  (in removing the Christmas Tree this year, I am packing the oldest's ornaments he has collected over the years for him to have on his first Christmas Tree next year).


Bittersweet!


Is anyone here the mother of little boys?

I cannot possible take one more man bashing post on this board.  How is it possible that no one loves or raises, or takes care of an honorable little or big man in their life!


I have met my share of scum bags, truly disgusting human beings that were women and men and find it appalling that one half of our species would be villified to absolve the other of any adult responsibilities or obligations.


I have 3 boys, 33, 25 and 23. All know how to use a needle
and thread. I showed them how to do it once and they have done their own mending ever since. I just told them if they didn't want to go broke buying their clothes, then they better learn how to mend them. They actually all took 1 semester of home ec in high school (my insistence).
10-year-old boys
This is the age when me and my little buddy weren't little buddies anymore. He heard me, but it was mwa, mwa, mwa, like the teacher on Charlie Brown. We had to redraw the lines of our relationship and it was very uncomfortable.

I made him get a lawn job with our elderly neighbor and he bawled pretty much the whole time. He lost his video and computer games permanently and forever. He signed up for music lessions and learned to be a percussionist (which is every dang instrument in the world) so he would never get bored. He went away to summer camp for two weeks and never called home once (by his own choice). He had to grow up and learn how to be a big, strong man, without his mamma nagging him.

So far so good, but I had to stop babying him...he was sick of it and of me! I had to learn how to treat him differently, and I am still learning! If we are going to even be on speaking terms when he is an adult, if he is ever going to confide in me when he is in deep trouble, it starts while he is still living in the house, and before he is taller than his dad too!
yep, 10-year old boys...
same experience here. With both my older boys, my 2nd oldest is 10 now, and we are defiantely redrawing the lines. I have repeatedly told him that I am not worried about being his friend right now. Its about him learning to be responsible and repsectful as a young man. I pray to God to give me (us) the patience that the children deserve. Best of luck