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A way to tell if PayPal is real or not...

Posted By: passing on info... on 2006-02-27
In Reply to: There are scam emails that claim to come from - Paypal also.

One thing that PayPal tells you on their web site regarding spam emails is that they will NEVER send you an email from PayPal that is addressed to the general masses ("Dear PayPal User"). If it says Dear Sue and your name is Sue, then it might be real. If it says "Dear PayPal User" it is a hoax.


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Cook it real slow at real low heat; simmer, don't boil.
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paypal
I am also a musician and I have paypal and have used it do purchase all of my sheet music and books online, works just like a visa.
no paypal ;)
No paypal for anything considered "adult" industry.
Don't ask me how I know this! ;)

PayPal?

If I understand correctly, you can use PayPal (through eBay) to pay for services.  I read this in an article that the wireless service sent out.  That is what they prefer, so it should work for something like this as well.  Let me know what you find out. 


Using Paypal...

Is it safe to purchase from someone online using paypal?  I will have to read on how to use paypal but how can you be sure they will sell you what they said they will?  Is there a way to protect myself?


TIA.


Thanks.


 


paypal.com (sm)
if you go to their web site and click on 'security' in the top right corner, that will take you to the page that explains the buyer protection program, if you want to see it with your own eyes and make sure you understand it better.

Also, I would ask for a delivery confirmation number or some other tracking number for your item, or even signature upon receipt, so you know when they mail it and they know when you get it, etc.
only get there by paypal.com
I agree... my account needs "updated" about twice a week. Every time I get one, I go to a new window and open paypal.com and if there is something they want me to know, there will be a message in there. If it's not there, the e-mail is fake.
While I am not always a fan of Paypal, I feel there is
something not quite right with your story. Paypal NEVER hits bank accounts - they do other things, but not messing with bank accounts. That was one of those internet hoax horror stories.  I have had even had a charge back once for over $200 from a nightmare customer - he had his credit card charge back Paypal and got his $200 back from Paypal. Paypal then had the right to take the $200 out of my bank account, as we ALL have bank accounts linked to our account, and they never did as I would not authorize that deduction. This was years ago. Again, they will take $$ you have in your Paypal account if they feel you owe them $$, but they do not go into your bank accounts without specific individual permission and reams of authorization. Sounds like you had a fraudulent TRANSACTION that went thru Paypal.  They are just an intermediary, you know. That is different than Paypal just helping themselves to your finances. I use Paypal for literally thousands of dollars worth of transactions a year without a glitch, and have since its birth! Feel confident to donate using Paypal. One in a million horror story if something went wrong. And there are phone #s and contact people galore to talk to anytime at Paypal. Not true that they are "hidden" or inaccessible. I'm sure you had some sort of problem, but I don't think you may understand exactly what happened. Merry Christmas!!
My PayPal Story
I bought an item on ebay about a year ago. Paid with Paypal. Product was shipped but I never received it.

Apparently the delivery truck exploded.

PayPal's Buyer Protection reimbursed me every cent. All settled within one month.
PayPal question
I have looked on the PayPal website and can't figure out how to do this...don't know where else to ask this question, so perhaps one of you might know the answer.  I have an existing account that I use for PayPal when I win items from E-Bay, but I have recently gotten a job with a small MTSO who actually uses PayPal to pay transcriptionists.  She informed me it doesn't cost anything to utilize this service, but my first check I got charged $10 to transfer it from PayPal account to my bank account.  She tells me you have to set it up differently to get this to work.  I have gone on my PayPal account and read everything I can find but nothing that states how you set this up.  Anyone have a clue?  If so, thanks for sharing.
My company also uses PayPal to
pay their transcriptionists and I lose $30 to $50 every paycheck because of PayPal's "fee" to transfer it. I don't think there's any way around it - at least not that I have found either. 
Those whose companies use PayPal
I am surprised all the employees don't put up a fuss about that.

It is ridiculous that you lose money every time you transfer your own money.

I think you should tell your employer it is not acceptable to be paid that way. (Is there a way you can unite with other employees about this?)

What is the employer's reasoning for using this anyway? Why don't they go the standard direct deposit into bank accounts if they don't want to mail checks?
I have been using Paypal for years and have never had any problems.

see message about PayPal fraud

I went online one day to check my bank account balance and I was overdrawn. I was shocked. I saw an automatic withdrawal transaction for a company that I had never even heard of for a product that I had never even ordered.


The only thing that I went through PayPal for was a microcassette player that nobody else had bid on through ebay.  I got that for 99 cents, plus shipping and handling. Incidentally it still works after nearly 2 years.


I called my bank and was told that the automatic withdrawal had gone through my PayPal account for a company I had never heard of for a "computer software item" that I never received, although I was charged for shipping.


I spent months attempting to receive a response from PayPal. I finally received an e-mail that said to print the attached affidavit of fraud, but found that the attachment could not be opened  to be printed.  PayPal finally agreed, via email, to give me a telephone number that I could contact and that I would receive that telephone number by US postal service within 2 to 3 weeks. Of course when I recieved the number and called it, I had to leave a message.


The recorded PayPal voice did eventually call me back when I was not at home and sent me another letter saying that I did not respond to their attempts to contact me.


Arrrrgh.


I filled out paperwork at my bank for fraud against PayPal, closed my bank account and eventually (almost one year later) received a bank check from my former bank for close to $300.00 in overdraft fees.


Apparently my former bank was going to collect from PayPal for their fraud. Whether or not they were successful in that attempt , I do not know.


My advice is to stay away from PayPal period. It may work for you now, but you never know.  After all, they have all of your information.


 


 


I'm pretty sure this was not a Paypal issue, but
a fraud issue.   I had a very similar situation happen with a credit card.  I had a charge on my statement.  I didn't recognize the name, there was a state listed on the statement where the company supposedly was, there was a phone number that was unlisted so I couldn't trace, but did find it was in a totally different state.  When I called the number I got an answering machine with no identification of the company.   I left a message but never got a return call.   I called my credit card company and they credited my account.  All the bank could tell me was that it was for software and I had not ordered any software.   I'm not sure where this company got my credit card information.  I haven't had the situation happen again.  
Used PayPal for Ebay and they took out double the (sm)

money.  Have tried ever since to get the second deduction back but as yet, no luck.  Don't trust PayPal and certainly don't trust ebay anymore.


I got rid of my PayPal because of risks I have heard about. sm
Of course, it is a risk to do anything online at all where you have to input personal information.
Paypal debit card
We have a Paypal debit card that we can use just like any other check card/debit card. It just draws from the funds from your Paypal account. You can use it at the store, etc., and at the ATM. Even paying an ATM fee to get out cash would be less than the $10 charge to transfer. You might check on it.
Don't trust PayPal as they took unauthorized money

out of my checking account causing checks to bounce, overdraft fees, etc. that gave me no option but to close my checking account and open one in a different bank. It took 9 months of paperwork before I was finally reimbursed by my former banking institution for all fees as well as the monies that PayPal withdrew from my account without my authorization.


PayPal, however, took no responsibility for their error.


I am in hopes that there is another way to donate without giving your information to a site that is unsecure, such as PayPal.


Please forward the Paypal notification to me and I will check into it.
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If you have a Paypal account, pay to sales@mtstars.com. Thank you!
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If you paid with Paypal you can file a claim with them, just do it before

30 days is up.   If you paid via credit card you can file a claim with the credit card company, even if you paid via Paypal with a credit card.   You can also file a fraud charge with the U.S. postal service if the item went through them.    With the post office it would take a while to get your money though.   You can also notify the police in her state/county, though most likely they will take a report and that is it, unless this is a habitual thing and others have complained.  


Hopefully the administrator will be able to help you.  


Paypal takes care of their users
I use Paypal all the time, not only through ebay and in person, but online as well. They have an incredible Resolution Center and Buyer Protection program that basically says if you can prove you didn't get what you paid for, Paypal will lock down the seller's funds until Paypal can get your money back. Pretty much, I would think anyone selling with Paypal would know better than to try to fraud you.
I know through eBay, Paypal has saved my bottom quite a few times where something was misrepresented, and every time, they got me all my money back.
I would go for it, but have a good "paper trail" between yourself and the seller of what the exact terms of the sale are, including a description, price, timeframe of payment/delivery, return policy, etc.
Good luck!
I've used Paypal for many years on many different sites. Never a problem ever. NM

PayPal is free to "use" but they charge a fee for all funds received... sm
not for transferring funds to your bank account. Open your account and go to the very bottom of the screen and click on the Fees link to see what they charge. They have a help section and a toll free number to call if you have other questions.

Your MTSO was very misleading by not telling you about the fees that have always been connected to receiving money this way. It doesn't cost them to send money, but it certainly does cost the recipient to receive it. That's how PayPal makes their money and the MTSO must know that.

I agree, I too doubt it was PayPal, someone hacked your account , plain and simple - sm
It can be done, especially if you ever responded to any spam emails. I had my debit card hacked at BJs, someone broke into the main frame and stole thousands of credit cards #, etc. They spent about $800 at Wal-Mart, PetsMart and for gas, bounced stuff in our checking account, etc. Since it was a VISA debit card, I had the money back in 24 hours after I filled out the fraud forms at the back. --but no one every physically stole my card or even had my PIN #. I am sure savvy computer hackers can do it , OR someone there at PayPal hacked and sold off a list---but I highly doubt they deliberately withdrew funds. I would have found out from the company that did the charge ***PAYPAL - THE XYX Co." where the mystery item shipped....doubt it was to your address.....That happened to me with a credit card, tons of stuff that I supposedly bought $800 of stuff from Victoria's Secret made its way to NY, not PA where I was living--interesting. Again was refunded promptly. PayPal may have been lax at how they handled it granted, but I am sure with a bit more persistance and going through the right channels you would have had it resolved a bit more promptly and to your satisfaction.
Forward it to spoof@paypal.com, also check your acct directly through their web site...
just don't click on a link in the emai. The hackers are getting better all the time.
You didnt see the link to PayPal for donations to "defray" the costs of providing such a surve
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yes, real med.
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is this for real?
if so, Lord help us all. We are in a world of trouble if this is what our profession is coming to!
I think my real ? is...sm
can I pick it up by just doing it, or do I need some "real" training? It definitely sounds like something I want to check into! Thanks everyone for the input!!!
I am real
Don't be jealous! If you do your math and learn to read, you will see that I lost this weight over a 6 week period (I even said in my post I started on August 17th). My first week I lost 12 pounds and then averaged about 5-7 pounds per week thereafter. Most of it was water weight (told to me from the doctor) and YES IT IS POSSIBLE.

Ever watch the series "The Big Fat Loser?" They were my inspiration and I can tell you that some of those people on there the first week lost well over 15-20 pounds!

Again, don't be jealous. I can't help you will be stuck at your 600+ pounds for life. I decided to get my life back and that is what I am doing. My weight continues to decline and all is good, as I have been monitored by a doctor for this! So a big "WHATEVER TO YOU!"
get real.
I was a 70s teenager too, smoked pot, etc. Nothing shocks me - I've seen and heard it all. Believe me, I've been around so many losers I think I am starting to get pretty good at spotting them and every 40 something pothead I've seen is a big time loser. Furthermore, if you are in your 40s and cannot construct a sentence without swear every other word you really need help, you might be lacking a little in imagination along with class. I hope for your sake you're not over 21.
I really like Real.com....SM
If I remember right, we downloaded the player, and from there you go to their Music Store, where you can browse, sample, and buy tunes. They seem to have a great selection. Usually they are 99 cents per tune to buy, but sometimes they have "sales." Burning CDs is super easy. If *I* can do it, anyone can. I have made several of my own CDs that I love to listen to in the car.

Oh, and no monthly fee either!

http://www.real.com/

(It's the Real Player download over to the right, which includes access to the Music Store.)
any of them....get real and get over it....nm
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Get real ---
First of all, why in the world would anyone have to wait 6 weeks for a first check?  Second, I know for a fact that they run out of work especially around the holidays.  If you have plenty of work it is only because the smart MTs have left that joint!  -- MTs like you take whatever the amount of their check is and never question management.  That's why you love it there --------- when they say "jump" you say "how high?"  --- LMAO   
get a real job
YES, all my friends who are lucky never had to work get mad at me cause i dont have time to go to lunch, do church work, come over and hang out, go canoing etc.etc. etc. "you never want to do anything"
Is this for real...
I'm sorry, but I'm having a hard time buying this story...please forgive me for being insensitive...but each time you post, it gets more and more bizarre.  Sounds like a movie...I'm skeptical, sorry, not buying it...
of course I'm for real and you are....sm

typical of so many Americans who want to KILL rather than RESCUE.  This is most probably a harmless snake.  I happen to like most snakes and asked what the color was so perhaps I could help decipher dangerous snake from nondangerous snake.


If an endangered species came flying your way, into your neighborhood, into your garage or patio......you'd want to kill it rather than rescue it. 


Snakes are not cockroaches,  they are not rats, they are not vermin!! 


I live in a reptile state......we do not go around killing the critters unless they STRIKE (alligators/crocodiles/other reptiles) and if they don't strike and they catch them, they get sent to places that house them, show them, and don't kill them.


God didn't say go kill all the animals nor did Jesus.....


Lord help you when your time comes.....


 


 


Let's be real....
The only docs and facilities that need 24- hour turnaround time is radiology.  The rest of the docs who get the work in 24 and 12 hours basically just sit on it - that's after the MT has broken her neck getting it to them. 
your welcome.... just trying to keep it real..
Let me know if it works!!!! 
MT not a real job.
Your husband and mine have a lot in common. I have the same problem. I have actually been told I was lazy because I work at home. And he says it isn't worth the money because as a newbie you dont start out making a lot of money but this is something you have to work your way up to. I have a good friend who makes an excellent living at this. But she has been doing it for 8 years now. I know one day it will pay off but in the meantime he doesn't take it seriously at all. He makes me feel like I dont even have a job. So I know exactly how you feel.
yes, i am for real-sm
I stammered a bit and then asked for more info about the dishwashing job.  I told her I had not considered it before.  I honestly didn't know what to say!  Where- I'd rather not say.
that's real nice

REAL MATURE
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A real old old timer
When I learned how to type in high school, we had the manual typewriters with no letters on the keys.  The first electric typewriter when I was a senior, was awesome! You barely had to touch it.  I can't remember either the name of the first "word processor" I used, but I know that soon after came the "Mag Card".  I definitely don't miss any of these.  Yes, that was before production.    Boy, just thinking about this makes me realize how "ancient" I am and how far technology has come in my lifetime. 
I am real too at 96 pounds. I would never let myself get that fat.
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Get real, we'd be jobless!!
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So no real safe way to put...
a "bug" in their ear that you're available if they want you huh?
The REAL story

On July 16th, 2005 Dwayne Schimke, ebay user ‘Turnedtwo’ contacted me about a bike I was selling on eBay. He emailed saying that he wanted to come to my home and pick up the bike. I have clearly stated in all of my auctions that I do not allow people to pick up items. He admits himself that he ‘didn’t read the whole auction’ After a few emails were exchanged I told him I had blocked him from bidding, and asked him not to email me anymore. He was offended that I forbid him to bid on my auction, and continued to email me several more times after I had asked him to stop emailing me. Then I called his home, I used some choice words and told him to stop emailing me.



After that, he did not email me anymore and I did not email him or call him anymore. I thought this was the end of it. Then a few months later Bret Shipp from WFAA shows up at my home and starts asking questions about the confrontation and about Cindy


Burleson.



Once I heard the name Cindy Burleson, it became clear why the reporter was there.



Cindy Burleson and Lisa Taylor have been harassing me and my family for almost two years now. She goes by eBay user IDs : lavinder17@hotmail.com , fireyredhead1960, cindysilver2004, curtain_climbers, officerfredfw



They have done everything they can think of to ruin my business, my reputation, and basically my life. They have accused me of anything they could think of, and have reported me to anyone they could come up with in an attempt to reek some sort of revenge against me and have me kicked off of eBay.



I was first contacted by Cindy Burleson in Feb. 2004. She had won one of my auctions for $1.50. She told me she was going to my house and pick up the item. I told her I do not let anyone from the internet come to my house. She insisted that she knew where I lived, and she was going to come over. She got really mad that I refused to allow her in my home. She began accusing me of bidding on my own auctions. The auction had started for $1, so she was accusing me of committing fraud to gain 50 cents ! She reported this to eBay, and emailed my customers with this ridiculous claim.



She then started calling me, and emailing obsessively, then she got her daughter, her boyfriend, and her friends to email me. I have received well over 1,000 emails from her and her friends/family. I got over 500 from them in one day alone. I did call her quite a few times to try to get her to stop, I threatened legal action, she just kept emailing and calling. I gave up, and stopped responding to her harassment in February 2004 and changed my phone number to stop her calls. That is when the real horror began. She is on a mission to do everything she can to effect my life, my business, and my family.



She took one of my emails to her and changed it to say that I was coming to kill her. She sent it to eBay so that they would cancel my account. I had a copy of the original email with the time, date, and ID numbers. I was able to prove to eBay that I did not do this, and they eventually reinstated my account. Meanwhile I was suspended for 30 days with no income because of this lie.



After all of these false allegations from Cindy and her daughter I began to suspect they were the ones up to no good on eBay, so I started to research her accounts and I found out Cindy would list items (such as Tiffany jewelry) and Lisa would bid against other bidders on the items to drive the price up! She had accused me of this when her and her daughter were the ones really doing it ! I showed eBay and eBay suspended the accounts. Neither Cindy Burleson or Lisa Taylor have been allowed on eBay since that time.



Cindy and Lisa both knew it was me who reported them and it only fueled their hatred towards me. Needless to say the story did not end there.



She handed out my home address and phone number to everyone she knows. They then started calling and driving by my house (then would call and/or email to say they had driven by) I filed a police report with the Johnson County Sheriff after they came by late one night in May 2004.  I thought it would end after that but the worst was yet to come.



The 10news story states I was arrested for "harassment" and shows the mug shot from that ‘most recent’ arrest. The only reason I was arrested for harassment was because on 3-15-2004 Cindy Burleson filed a false police report against me with the Grand Prairie Texas police department. Apparently her story did not hold water, so action was not taken by the police. The following week 3-22-2004, Lisa goes back to Grand Prairie Texas police department and tells them a different story (someone must have told them their first report did not do it and what they would have to say in order for the Grand Prairie police to take action). A warrant was issued for me after the second report. I obtained copies of the 2 conflicting police reports and there is absolutely no mention of any ‘death threat’ in either of the 2 reports. In fact the reports say I had called 5 times, not the 30-40 she is claiming now. The strangest part of the 2 conflicting reports is that they were both taken by the same police officer. This is a matter of public record and can be verified by anyone through the Grand Prairie Police Department.



Now I ask you, if you were the police officer who took the initial report and knew full well it was false, why would you accept a second report with a different story from the same 2 people and allow them to use different names and addresses, but the same phone numbers ? Not to mention the fact that neither Cindy, her daughter, nor I resided in or around Grand Prairie at all.



Bret Shipp of WFAA was advised of all of this, but he made absolutely no mention of these facts I provided him with in the story they did on me. I guess the truth did not make for a ‘juicy’ story in Bret’s eyes.



I had no idea I even had a warrant for this until the night I was pulled over in my hometown of Cleburne a couple days after Christmas. I spent 5 days (including New Years Eve!) in jail before I could come up with the $5,000 bond they put on me ! Once the DA looked into the matter my bond was refunded in full and no charges were filed. I still spent 5 days in jail because of this woman's lies !



She has continued to harass me and my family. She said that she has been ‘terrorized’ but I have not emailed, called or initiated any contact with her since Feb. 2004. She and her daughter have continued this for almost 2 years now. Every so often I get some kind of strange email message from her. She tells me she likes my house, my car, my truck, and my wife. She has sent emails to my wife stating she has had sex with me in an effort to have my wife think I cheated on her. Both her and her daughter send me emails asking if I am having a nice day and that they love me, stuff like hugs and kisses and such. She even ran a criminal background check on me, got all of my personal information, then emailed to tell me she had this information. She emailed me in July 2005 saying she had driven by my house and saw me smoking in the front yard. She told me how ‘white trash’ she thought that was.



Now I ask you, if someone is harassing and ‘terrorizing’ you, why on earth would you be emailing them to antagonize them and drive by their home which is more than an hour away?



Cindy was frustrated that I was not responding to her emails and phone calls and proceeded to involve the Media and tell them the same bogus story she told eBay about me threatening her life. In fact, I found out about this whole ‘Ebay Bully’ story from HER!! She emailed me to show me what she had done.



After the 10news story aired I started receiving many emails from irate eBay users cussing me out left and right. I was lead into numerous chat forums and discussion boards  which were discussing this ‘Ebay Bully’ story and even going as far as posting satellite images of my neighborhood and specifically pointing out my house on the image! Then eBay canceled my accounts telling me I had become a "legal liability" to them, and they could not allow me to conduct business on their site. This entire ordeal has become an ongoing nightmare from which I cannot seem to wake up.



I am an honest small business owner, just trying to make a living and take care of my home and family. I have been selling on eBay for 7 years. I have 1000’s of happy customers. It is unfortunate that I have lost my sole source of income due to a couple of persistent people with nothing better to do than to come up with ways to destroy my life. I now have been put out of business, and have no way to support myself or my family.



I have suffered loss of wages, false imprisonment, harassment, defamation of character, and now public humiliation at the hands of Cindy and her clan. I honestly cannot believe something like this could happen over a $1.50 auction. If it had not happened to me I still would not believe it.



The scariest part of this whole ordeal is that I have come to realize that Cindy Burleson is not going to stop. She is obsessed with me, and has made it her life’s mission to harass me and my family. If it happened to me, it could happen to anyone out there.


oh be real and tell the truth !
all of you are quoting prices of 9, 10 and 12 cents and I think you're all fibbing. Every national I've contacted talks about 6 and MAYBE 8 cents per line and I have 10 years exper. So where did you guys find these so-called companies? I'll bet you anything no one will quote the companies paying the big bucks, will ya.