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Being a mother, I couldn't tolerate animals

Posted By: TM on 2006-08-03
In Reply to: veggie too--can't stand killing of any sort--sm - kps

walking around infected with rabies that would be a threat to my family, because as much as I love animals, my family is still my priority. On the other hand though, no they shouldn't be clubbed to death and killed even if not infected. This is China though, and they have no respect for most people...much less animals. It's sad, but unfortunately the way it is. :(


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One of my daughter's soft stuffed animals....
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