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DD is a 1st grade teacher, and is ready to throw in the towel

Posted By: venting for my daughter on 2005-08-28
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already - not because of the kids, but because of the interferring parents (mothers) who cannot bear to let "little Suzie" out of the nest, cuz, you know, she is my baby, so I want to be with her as much as I can.  She thinks these mothers cause more harm psychologically for the kids that anyone realizes.  They lose coping skills, other kids make fun of them for being a big baby, and they lose all identity.  Can't these mothers get a life away from the kid's school?   She has 3 or 4 that think they know everything and are constantly interrupting her to "correct" her way of teaching.  She is not a new teacher, has been teaching for over 10 years now and is rated one of the top teachers in this area. 


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Don't throw in the towel yet.
I know things may not seem positive right now but look at counseling as a possible way of turning this all around.  Try to get your husband interested in a hobby or something.  It sounds as though he has no zest for life anymore.  If he is not happy with himself it can cause problems in your relationship.
When is it time to throw in the towel entirely?

It doesn't work for me to be a fulltime employee for a big national.  However, it doesn't work to be an IC for a small MTSO either.  The obvious middle of the road would be SE for a medium sized company.  However, it seems like that just takes the bad from employee and combines it with the bad from IC.  I wonder if I'll ever find a good place to work.  I should just bag MT entirely.  I know I'm not the best MT or employee.  I'm not perfect.  There are a lot better MTs out there.  I'm not all that bad either.  Maybe I could make a living posting stupid auctions on ebay. 


Hi TIA, my DH is a former 7th grade teacher and now....
is a high school principal.  Don't people like that ignorant poster above really burn you up?  As the wife of a teacher, I can vouch for the long hours and dedication that teachers put in.  My DH can talk you through a typical week that will prove that most teachers put in 12 months worth of full-time hours and MORE in the 9.5 months that they work.  That doesn't even count the summer hours preparing for the next school year.  I have sat home on my anniversary because my husband is off chaperoning a trip so the kids can attend a band competition a thousand miles away.  We have spent endless dollars of our own supplementing these trips, buying things for needy students, and making "sports supervision duty" a family night out so we can spend a little time with hubby and Dad.  Don't even get me started on the vandalism that we've incurred over the last 15 years.  Shall I start with the car that some little gang banger started by pouring a gallon of gas into our car and setting it on fire, because he was suspended?  Or how about the rocks put into our gas tank of our car?  Teachers ought to get hazard pay!  Wasn't an asst. principal just gunned down last week?  Teachers don't become teaches for the money, believe me.  Where else can you finish a bachelor's degree and an 18 month credentialing program for a whopping 25,000 dollars a year (in some areas, more in others).  A car mechanic makes twice as much as that!!!  So, I pretty much dismiss those people who think teachers sit on their butts all day and skate out the door at 2:30.  Their kids are probably the worst of them all.
As a former 2nd grade teacher... NO way. Why? (see rant inside! Ha ha!)

As a former schoolteacher.... We would not have done "snowman poop" in class.  No way, no how.  I think it's a little on the tacky side but still relatively harmless, so that isn't why I wouldn't do it. 


Too many parents with no life and too much time on their hands would complain.  Teachers have to walk on eggshells to avoid giving parents any tiny thing to freak out about.  The kids? They're great.  Parents?  Man, do we need some chlorine in the gene pool.  If they aren't expecting teachers to do free tutoring after school (Why would you expect that? Do we give away free MT for doctors? No! ) or to hold conferences after 6:00 PM so they don't have to leave early from work (Hello, teachers have families, too! They're YOUR kids, YOU take off work early rather than expecting a teacher to stay past 5:00, okay?) they're "forgetting" to send lunch money for weeks at a time or refusing to take any responsibility for their child's behavior and blaming it on a million different reasons other than that they just don't take the time to work on the problem.   


Two degrees in education and a gift for teaching, but never again.  I'm an MT for the rest of my working years.  


Hey, that's how I learned typing in 9th grade! And the teacher was a witch. nm
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when the student is ready, the teacher will come
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I was 15, in 10th grade, getting ready to go to school I guess - a bit hard to remember - nm
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my only thought, could "tail" be towel?
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Have you tried just keeping a rolled towel behind your back?
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Myron ROCKS!!!!! "The terrible towel!"
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a year. After I clean it good I turn it upside down on a towel for a day and then I position it
the heat/air conditioning register so it gets good and dry for about 2 days.  If you don't let it dry good it won't work very well.    I've been washing mine about 2 years.  
Spray might stain carpet underneath. Put a plastic bag with a paper towel under the foot pedal while
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When I grade I look for...
...correct terminology and spelling, and nothing else. I once scored a report with 17 spelling errors. I told the applicant that I failed her on those. She replied "I don't have time to watch for that c--p!"

Does anyone with that kind of work ethic attitude think they're going to get hired? Who'd want to work with them? Any of you account managers or QA peeps out there want them on YOUR team? Didn't think so.

Anyway, I know where the spots are that the inexperienced or too cocky people will screw up, and that's pretty much all I look at. I leave it to QA to teach/correct areas that need to be changed, if need be. I just want people who know the terminology and can use it correctly.

Recently I took a test where I was dinged for NOT using the JCAHO dangerous abbreviations. However, how is one to know what to do when there are no instructions whether to use intelligent transcription or transcribe verbetim? That's where the people who are doing the scoring need to actually USE their gray matter rather than assume that people who are testing have consulted their psychic the night before to know what that particular QA peep is going to get their panties in a bunch over.

I'll get down off my soapbox now. Lol....
My son has been on an IEP since 1st grade sm
he is now in the 5th. The IEP helped a lot. He has accomodations when taking tests i.e. tests are read aloud to him, when he has math a tutor sits right beside him and he has speech 3 days a week for 30 minutes.
My son is currently in 5th grade. sm
I have to say his elementary school has been great and it is a public school. In fact, his kindergarten teacher was the best anyone could ask for. She really got him interested in school and loving it. In fact, I was the only one crying his first day of school. He was in heaven.

I would suggest going and sitting in on the classes and spending time in the school to get familar with the staff. My son's school has a wonderful staff all the way down to the school janitors who are husband and wife and treat the kids great.

Although there are a couple of teachers that I personally did not care for, we were given the opportunity to request teachers and they were honored if at all possible. I was able to avoid the couple of teachers that I did not care for. They may have been great, but I just felt that their style and personality didn't match my son. This really makes a difference; a child needs someone he is not intimated by to learn from. If they are afraid to ask questions, the teacher will never know if they need help.

This is my son's last year in elementary school. I have to say I do have reservations about our middle school and high school. After we built our home, they redistricted our community into one of the worst middle schools and high schools in our county. We have been considering private school, but the schools close to us are so expensive. We could put him through college cheaper than middle school and high school.

Sorry so long, but I know all information helps especially when our children are concerned.
Now can we please throw away ....
the AAMT Book of style for Medical Transcription - or better yet, send all of our copies to India.  They will need them more than we will.  We have at least been through grammar school and now that the AAMT book is full of flaws, but because the industry standard is to follow the Book of Style we have had to compromise our teachings by our own education system to do what the "Book" says.  YUCK - I have hated that book.  My aunt was an University English teacher - way smarter than anyone who wrote that book.  I call her for clarification. 
Low grade olive oil is the best.
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Fourth grade
Sounds like she is in 4th grade (age 9)? Most people agree that that is a tough year. I remember it was for me and my twin sister. I was not comfortable with competitive sports, but I think it would have given me confidence (and an outlet for all the negative energy of anxiety) if I had taken martial arts after school, or gymnastics or something like that to give me confidence and strength.
Furman grade
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sorry, but this isn't grade school
When you get out of grade school and become an MT, try following the MT Book of Style, which contains the guidelines for this profession - whether you like it or not.
Yes, and I believe the responses were to throw the bum out
if he gets even the tiniest bit annoying.  We also can't forget the comments about having a man support us, not having to work and being told what to do.
I might as well throw my opinion in there. sm
There have been so many opinions posted, I might as well give you MY best advice: Call your husband and talk to him. Just be honest. Tell it to him exactly like you told us - that you and the kids have really been missing him and were looking forward to seeing him, and that you were kind of hurt when he said not to come. Be honest with him, and give him a chance to be honest with you. Actually listen to his reasons and try to understand his line of thinking. At the very least, you'll have let him know how you feel, and he deserves to know that and have the chance to explain away your fears. The posters below don't know you, or your marriage, and that's OK because they were trying to help. But bottom line is this - he's your husband and you love each other for a reason. He's not going to want you to spend the next days/weeks feeling bad and he'll take the time to make you feel better.
Think I am gonna throw up! ugh! nm
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To throw a statement out such as a
single mother just means, again, nothing more than a person working, same as a divorced mother or father but you know, you never hardly hear that term, do you? People don’t go around saying I am a married mother as they do with I am a single mother. I will say again, to me that denotes just another person in the work force, nothing more, nothing less. Seems like you went off the deep end trying to make something out of the fact that I said 1 person working is just like another. No favoritism for anyone in the work field.
What about Gen-Y? Try being a teacher.
Excellent article below;does not bode well for our future.

Also article about overweight, under-educated military recruits: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/20/struggling_for_recruits_army_relaxes_its_rules?mode=PF


For once, blame the student

By Patrick WelshWed Mar 8, 7:08 AM ET

Failure in the classroom is often tied to lack of funding, poor teachers or other ills. Here's a thought: Maybe it's the failed work ethic of todays kids. That's what I'm seeing in my school. Until reformers see this reality, little will change.


Last month, as I averaged the second-quarter grades for my senior English classes at T.C. Williams High School in Alexandria, Va., the same familiar pattern leapt out at me.


Kids who had emigrated from foreign countries - such as Shewit Giovanni from Ethiopia, Farah Ali from Guyana and Edgar Awumey from Ghana - often aced every test, while many of their U.S.-born classmates from upper-class homes with highly educated parents had a string of C's and D's.


As one would expect, the middle-class American kids usually had higher SAT verbal scores than did their immigrant classmates, many of whom had only been speaking English for a few years.


What many of the American kids I taught did not have was the motivation, self-discipline or work ethic of the foreign-born kids.


Politicians and education bureaucrats can talk all they want about reform, but until the work ethic of U.S. students changes, until they are willing to put in the time and effort to master their subjects, little will change.


A study released in December by University of Pennsylvania researchers Angela Duckworth and Martin Seligman suggests that the reason so many U.S. students are "falling short of their intellectual potential" is not "inadequate teachers, boring textbooks and large class sizes" and the rest of the usual litany cited by the so-called reformers - but "their failure to exercise self-discipline."


The sad fact is that in the USA, hard work on the part of students is no longer seen as a key factor in academic success. The groundbreaking work of Harold Stevenson and a multinational team at the University of Michigan comparing attitudes of Asian and American students sounded the alarm more than a decade ago.


Asian vs. U.S. students


When asked to identify the most important factors in their performance in math, the percentage of Japanese and Taiwanese students who answered "studying hard" was twice that of American students.


American students named native intelligence, and some said the home environment. But a clear majority of U.S. students put the responsibility on their teachers. A good teacher, they said, was the determining factor in how well they did in math.


"Kids have convinced parents that it is the teacher or the system that is the problem, not their own lack of effort," says Dave Roscher, a chemistry teacher at T.C. Williams in this Washington suburb. "In my day, parents didn't listen when kids complained about teachers. We are supposed to miraculously make kids learn even though they are not working."


As my colleague Ed Cannon puts it: "Today, the teacher is supposed to be responsible for motivating the kid. If they don't learn it is supposed to be our problem, not theirs."


And, of course, busy parents guilt-ridden over the little time they spend with their kids are big subscribers to this theory.


Maybe every generation of kids has wanted to take it easy, but until the past few decades students were not allowed to get away with it. "Nowadays, it's the kids who have the power. When they don't do the work and get lower grades, they scream and yell. Parents side with the kids who pressure teachers to lower standards," says Joel Kaplan, another chemistry teacher at T.C. Williams.


Every year, I have had parents come in to argue about the grades I have given in my AP English classes. To me, my grades are far too generous; to middle-class parents, they are often an affront to their sense of entitlement. If their kids do a modicum of work, many parents expect them to get at least a B. When I have given C's or D's to bright middle-class kids who have done poor or mediocre work, some parents have accused me of destroying their children's futures.


It is not only parents, however, who are siding with students in their attempts to get out of hard work.


Blame schools, too

"Schools play into it," says psychiatrist Lawrence Brain, who counsels affluent teenagers throughout the Washington metropolitan area. "I've been amazed to see how easy it is for kids in public schools to manipulate guidance counselors to get them out of classes they don't like. They have been sent a message that they don't have to struggle to achieve if things are not perfect."

Neither the high-stakes state exams, such as Virginia's Standards of Learning, nor the requirements of the No Child Left Behind Act have succeeded in changing that message; both have turned into minimum-competency requirements aimed at the lowest in our school.

Colleges keep complaining that students are coming to them unprepared. Instead of raising admissions standards, however, they keep accepting mediocre students lest cuts have to be made in faculty and administration.

As a teacher, I don't object to the heightened standards required of educators in the No Child Left Behind law. Who among us would say we couldn't do a little better? Nonetheless, teachers have no control over student motivation and ambition, which have to come from the home - and from within each student.

Perhaps the best lesson I can pass along to my upper- and middle-class students is to merely point them in the direction of their foreign-born classmates, who can remind us all that education in America is still more a privilege than a right.

Patrick Welsh is an English teacher at T.C. Williams High School in Alexandria, Va., and a member of USA TODAY's board of contributors.


Another former teacher
I just wanted to let you know you are not the only one who is a former teacher. I have a special ed degree and have taught in several different places, my favorite being with profoundly handicapped adults as a supervisor. However, where I am currently living I have had such a hard time getting back into that field. They only want to hire me for a job that I am totally overqualified for.

I was fortunate enough to find someone who was willing to train me in medical transcription on the job. With all my previous medical experience with education and wiht my on the job experience, I am now a single mom of three who LOVES medical transcription.

Sometimes I feel that I am wasting my degree, but then I hear something that I learned in college or through my previous jobs and know this is what I was meant to ....at least for now.

I don't know if this helps, but I just wanted to let you know you are not alone.
grade versus stage
grades are regular numbers, 1, 2, 3, etc. Stages are I, II, III. It's easy to remember this way - The Romans are on the Stage.
I do think kindergarten and 1st grade might get a kick out of it.
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Depends on which grade you will be teaching, but
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1984. I was in 4th grade. I'm 32 and not ashamed to say!!
Good for you! Every vote counts!
grade typing back in the 60s...lol...sm
so today, that is kind of hard to change especially when you have everything saved (macros) the way we USED to type that....it's just THIS week, I'm trying to do only 1 space after a period and I'm older than dirt!!  And I find that particular aspect of 1 space after a period very time consuming.........to make sure you didn't hit that space bar twice. 
Word Help--Firmin grade 3??
Patient with kidney cancer.  Sounds like "Firmin" grade 3???
put the throw rugs back. nm
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Actually, throw out the BOS and use the physician's preference.
I learned that disc is eyes, disk is computer disk, and disc/disk for back is up to the account preferences.  The doctors do not care what some stupid AAMT BOS book says because it's THEIR notes and they aren't regulated by the AAMT.
I do not keep anything - pretty much give it away or throw it away.
I have no piles of anything around. I am a neat and tidy "freak". As far as finances, I keep a check book, but could not tell you where every penny went or is. As long as I am within $200 from the actual balance +/-, I am happy. I use MAC card for everything, don't keep much cash in hand, and pay my bills on line most times.

I have a stress free life most days, other than the daily little peaks and valleys related to work. Our family just lives life and we don't sweat the small stuff. It is simple once you get the hang of it. You need to learn to "let go" of "stuff" whether it be monetary things or emotional controlling issues. Be carefree sometimes and just live life to the fullest and stop worrying what anything is "worth". Some things are only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it, and in most cases, it is not much!

I am happy giving things away if someone can use them. It makes your heart feel good to help somebody out once in a while.

So, get rid of all of the "stuff" you have piled up and live carefree for a while. Let me know how it goes! You will be much happier!
Yes - hubby is the pack rat. I throw everything that is not being used out.
After I read the newspaper, it is in the trash. Nothing sits around. Hubby would save everything; however, he works shift work, so when he is at work, I toss things in the trast. My home is neat and clean and everything is in its place all of the time!

Taught my 2 teens to be the same way - Love neat and clean and organized!

My home is not enjoyable if crap is everywhere - in my opinion.
Yes, as below and throw in some black olives

Don't mind me, I just need to throw a little fit and gripe a little!

I HATE HATE HATE this dictator.  This is how he dictates if I were to strictly adhere to the verbatim rules of transcribing:


PROCEDURES PERFORMED: Cysto, retro, uretero with stent placement.


INDICATIONS:  This is a lady who had perc litho by Dr. X.  She had a perc tube. She had a nephro stent.  On the pull of the nephro stent, did an antegrade nephro and apparently had obstruction in the ureter which was a probable stone.  She was set up for a cysto retro Friday, but she ate, so she was set up for this morning. She understands the risks, options, complications, etc.


HE DRIVES ME INSANE!  He has a very conversational style of dictating that makes it incredibly hard to make sense of his reports! He abbreviates everything, makes up his own words, and has been known to dictate one-word sentences!!!!!


We need a firing squad for dictators like this! 


Breath in, breath out.  Okay, I'm finished now.  I'm just having one of those days, crappy dictators, communication channels between my brain and my fingers have broken down, and I just need a nap!


Back to work.


Please tell me you are worth working for. That you don't throw
don't only have mush mouths for dictators, that you are not difficult to work for and put ridiculous requirements on us.  I have worked for several people who boasted how wonderful their company, pay was great, but ended up having a slow platform, client specifics the size of telephone books, not enough work and being pushed off onto other accounts that only slow me down even more, to the point that I make practically no money.  Then, on top of that, told that oops my paycheck was going to be late, or it bounced, and given endless excuses.  The door swings both ways doesn't it?
You might throw some visual aids in there too.

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throw a blustering, indignant fit, though. Maybe
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Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents
On the GoMDT board, the company proveros was offering an internship.  The pay was going to be 4 cpl for straight transcription and 2 cpl for editing.  Well I have been working now for about 6 months so I am still a newbie but I do have a little bit of experience under my belt now.  I was not interested in the internship but I applied so I could test just to see what the test was going to be like.  This is for an internship, MTs fresh out of school with no experience, so they have no idea what it is like to be working for an MTSO.  I get the test and it's one of those test voice files from the site that a lot of MTSOs use as their testing site, which IMO all of those tests are horrible and I cringe when I try to start taking one of them.  Of course, the file sounds horrible.  There are a lot of words that I can't make out.  The voice quality is horrible compared to where I work at.  I do my best and leave blanks for the words I can't make out.  And you know what?  I failed the test. lol  It just boggles my mind.  Why are they making a test so difficult and hard for newbie mts?  I could understand if this was for a company that requires exp., but this is for an internship.  It just shows how unfair this profession is to people trying to break into it.  
HEY, Throw this poor dog a bone?

I am a "newbie", been looking for MT opportunity with no luck.  I would gladly take one of the jobs you didn't like, just for the experience......


At this time, I would just like a job doing Mt but beginning to think this was a mistake.....definitely must not be the same as it used to be.....


AND they are trying to throw in more nit-picky things about what this doc wants...
and this doctor always needs to go to QA and this resident needs an extra signature line and make sure the visit you selected was at the right place and be sure to change this worktype for this doctor because we cannot teach him to do it and we can't tell this doctor that worktype 800 is really not an EEG because we don't think he'll get it and no we can't get the software to recognize a visit ID when its entered and no you cannot start the audio in the document information screen so you can verify the patient and please automatically know when the doctor gives one name at the beginning of the dictation and a different one at the end who he is really typing about and take the following VR sentence and make it a lucid part of a medical report - CT scan guided biopsy performed February refills banding is without mucus brain which is negative.

My VR plan is quickly shaping up like this...take a 20-hour a week job at the local nursing home for full health insurance benefits and find an IC job doing transcription for supplemental income and repeat year after year until ready to be in nursing home.
Have you called the teacher? sm
Over the years I've had to e-mail and talk on the phone to my child's teachers. If you don't have the teacher's number or e-mail, you could probably call your child's school and get the information. If the teacher is worth his/her salt, they would probably be happy to help you out.
from an MT into a English Teacher

Am thinking of getting some education units (degree hopefully) to become an english teacher. I have been an MT for roughly seven years, five months give or take including schooling. But since i feel that Big Company (fourth down upper left panel of your screen, starts with "m") that says they dont outsource, but we cant be be so sure. I feel that the work is not anymore paying well right now. (maybe im just not getting the big breaks) I feel that i have to check my alternatives - cause im not getting any younger. Its tough out there but i think that god will provide.


Am i too old to be a english teacher?
is there a age requirement on being an english teacher? Or 32 is too old?
I used to be a typing teacher...
I used to be a typing teacher and also had long nails at the time. I got one of those split keyboards (ergonomic) and it helped. Having my hands in that position allowed me to type a lot easier with my longer nails. You might give that a try. Keyboards are really cheap.
I think I wanted to be a teacher
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My mom is a retired teacher, so that was something

we never said at home.  But as much as I have tried to correct my youngest, he  still uses it.  And he and my husband say, That DON'T matter. Yikes.  doesn't doesn't doesn't.  It DOESN'T matter!


You know, when you type doesn't that many times, it no longer looks like a real word.  I double checked the spelling and I'm still not sure it's right.


Traveling teacher
Where in MT, you can E-mail me