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Editing is the higher skill. I earn more editing SM

Posted By: MissIndigo on 2008-04-17
In Reply to: We certainly deserve more respect than that! - MT Professional

because I'm able to produce more--if the company doesn't adjust the way production's figured down and down again to keep the account from going elsewhere (when that happened to me on EditScript with no explanation of why my income was dropping, I went elsewhere also).

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If you believe editing is a HIGHER skill, then why are we being paid

Editing is the higher skill since it's more brain work,, AND SM
the computers are taking over the finger work. That and practitioners entering directly into the electronic medical record mean that most traditional transcription jobs before too long will be a thing of the past.

So I'd recommend you go directly to editing since you'll end up doing that anyway. If there's a future in this, it's going to be with a higher level of medical knowledge and a more expanded involvement in medical records beyond merely editing dictation, but likely including that.

Plus, with editing you'll be in at least twice as many reports as if you were transcribing them, which means you'll get much more experience more quickly. Whether you'll lose some benefit from not typing every word out I don't know, but you will spend a lot less time getting verbage you don't need to learn on paper. I.e., instead of typing some version of, "The patient presented to the emergency room by private automobile with a complaint of" a few hundred times a week,...you don't.

Do commit to developing an expansion base that will cut the Keystrokes it takes to do your work to the very minimum. As long as anyone's paid on a production basis, and as long as we're using keyboards, someone using 5 keystrokes to make 2 edits will BOTH make a lot more money than someone who takes 9 keystrokes to make one correction AND be a much more valuable productive worker--i.e., worth keeping on and developing as most traditional jobs disappear.

And do sign up for more medical classes, the ones people preparing for nursing and medical school take.

Whether you'll make more or less money one way or the other right now probably depends more than anything on the particular talents you bring to the job and the particular skills you choose to develop. Unlike the previous poster who does better transcribing, I make more editing, but I'm a fast reader and a slow keyboarder, so the less my income depends on what my fingers are capable of the better. Best wishes!
Good for you, Linda! SM First, editing's a desirable trend. Higher skill, easier SM
I feel it may be like a train about to rush around the bend at me.

For the discussion, editing is a higher skill and it's easier on the hands--absolutely no carpal tunnel problems since I started editing. And the WAGES ARE ABOUT THE SAME--you go through approximately twice as much dictation (some people more, some less depending on talent) in the same time it would take to transcribe it and get paid half as much for that amount of dictation, ending up without a drop in wages from editing. This is fair and market-driven.

Fewer editors would be needed, but some would be needed for the stinkers, even scary-good as VR gets with most dictators.

The big threat is from the electronic medical record, where physicians and their assistants check boxes on a handheld device they carry around with them and there is NO text report to come to us at all. England has had this for some years; go look and see how MTs are doing on the Emerald Isle.

No Chicken Little here, guys, AND not burying my head in the sand either. I don't have a view into the future, but the one thing that's clear is the future will require developing new skills, professional or trade level, of one kind or another. I just hope and pray it doesn't require going back to suits and office politics. School's okay, even at my age, but am guilty of putting it off to see if I'm going to be allowed to continue pretty much as is until I'm too old to work...huh--maybe there's some sand obscuring the picture after all. Best wishes.
I found out a long time ago that there are two kinds of editing.. one is editing MTs work (like QA)
and the other is editing as in VR. I have done VR editing, but when I put down this as experience on a resume, I was asked by the HR person if this meant that I had "edited" other MTs work. I think there is a lot of confusion out there and I wish they would just keep that as QA instead of calling it editing. Just be clear in what you want to edit as most companies that expect you to "edit" other MTs in a QA position do require you have a lot of experience. If you just going for VR editing, which is what Transcend has available and there are a few companies out there doing VR, none of which I think really require much experience as it is easy to learn. Hope I made some sense and it can be pretty confusing on how companies use the term "editing" thus it effects their expectations as far as experience goes.
Question about Editing for those who do editing
What would you consider to be  the average amount of lines a day of editing based on a 65 space line in an 8 hour day.  If you can do an average of 1200 straight typing what would be the expectation for a day of editing?  What do you think is a fair rate of pay for that editing? Do you know of companies that offer a tiered incentive rate for editing rates to do most of them offer a flat rate for lph?   Do you find you make more money,  less money or about the same than straight typing?  Thanks to anyone who is willing to share this information.  Feel free to email if you would rather share by email. 
VR editing versus MT editing pay


How does VR editing prod. pay compare to hourly pay ($15) regular QA and constantly being threatened to start being payed production.  Are there any special tricks to know to make good money on a VR program?  Any companies that have VR and are better than other ones would be appreciated as well.  Any and all assistance much appreciated-have to make a change shortly, so looking for a great company that offers ins. benefits.  Thanks for your time.

Does anyone do editing for VR?

If so can you provide some insight as compared to transcription?



editing vr
I do and I love it. I was doing 1500-1800 lines per day, now am doing between 3-4000. Pay is less, but not that much and so much less stress and strain on these old hands and wrists. Would never go back to straight typing.
Editing pay
I just starting working as an IC with a company in Chicago, IL.  They are paying me 4 cents a line to do editing, and 9 cents a line for straight type.  The account I am on uses voice recognition software (not sure if it is Dragon), and the program has difficulty with some of the doctors' accents, so their dictation comes through regularly.  I like doing this very much, as it has helped me bone up on my grammar skills.  Usually what I type just "goes out there", back to them, and I never see any response on whether or not my grammar and punctuation were correct.  Being an Editor has helped me greatly.  Do others have this same feeling as I do?
I didn't take the offer. I am really having a lot of mixed feelings over this. Frankly I think that is where it is "all going" but I don't want to be the one to stamp and seal it. Just bothered me a LOT.
I just quit my secure job of 15 years because in the past year, they have taken transcription away from all 100 of us and are making us edit the voice recognition system. I was making $15.00 per hour. I hated sitting here, cleaning up the mess that the EditScript program made with the dictations. It's just my humble opinion, but I'd want you to be absolutely sure you want to edit before you accept the job.
Good luck, Kay. Not everybody hates it. You might actually like it. :) Maybe if I hadn't been a Transcriptionist for so long, it wouldn't have been such a change and shock to my system. I tried it for a year and just did not enjoy it. I felt like I was an assembly line worker, like all my years of knowledge, accuracy, and speed were thrown out the window. That's why I quit and took a job with an online transcription company, because I want to retain my speed and knowledge. But if you try the editing and like it, then you should definitely write on this forum and tell everybody, as I am just speaking for myself. You should be happy in whatever you do. :)

What is the average pay per line for editing (including VR editing)?


Anyone doing VR editing?
How hard/easy is it? Would you rather transcribe?
VR editing
Not too bad. I never felt I should type the entire report over. It does get a little tedious as it is very easy to miss the small words, ie. a, it, an. The one positive is that it makes me feel less threatened that ASR will take our jobs soon! It really does have a long way to go.
I like it, and I would like it better for all the money, not half. 
But it's about VR editing
I am interested in hearing from any MTs who use VR to transcribe dictation.
I tried it for 2 weeks. I did not come near breaking even. You have to listen to every word and you have to make a lot of changes. It is very time consuming for a lot less money. That is just my opinion.
VR editing

I do VR editing and you really have to be fast, it only pays .02/65 char.  The VR puts in so many things that it's a hassle to correct.  If you are considering doing this for a company, don't.  If you are doing this for yourself, then maybe you can work with it so it becomes more reliable.

I figured out right away that I do not want to do editing only.  I like it, but I would be broke pretty quick.  I need to survive and get through coding school next year, so I've decided to switch to hourly pay.  So far, I've had plenty of work, both editing and straight typing.  The reports I've been typing are all good dictators.  I like the mix of editing and typing. 
If you are doing regular editing, not VR, it should be even with the typing pay you receive or even more. It can take time to edit some reports, especially ESLs where there are a lot of blanks. I personally get paid by the hour and I make half of what I make typing on my other job and just work about 30 hours biweekly.
I'm not editing via VR
I don't do VR. I edit work that is transcribed by MTs. I know that it tracks work done by MTs but I don't think it does this for the work that editors do. If you find differently, let me know.
You obviously are not editing the
We used to do editing but no more
The EMR system, especially in a teaching hospital environment, where the resident or fellow does all the typing, has virtually eliminated any need for a transcriptionist. We edited for a while, but the templates have improved. It all depends on what EMR the docs are using.
Are you maybe editing yourself out of a job?
Okay..sorry, haven't done that, but haven't read or heard good things about it.  Someone else will have to help.
Oh, yes you can. VR editing 12 cpl - sm
regular transcription 18 cpl.

I am not the original poster, but I have to tell you the accounts are out there that pay this. I know, I have 2 of them.

Please note - I did not ask for this fee, they offered it and I hopped right on it.

I too was under the impression, by listening to this other MTSOs, that they can't get good pay.

I am telling you Don't believe it! There are good paying accounts out there, you just have to search for them.
QA/editing pay

There are companies that pay $15/hr for editing.  You would have to edit 500 lines per hour to make that much money if you were paid 3 cents per line.  What is not factored into the by the line editing pay is the time spent researching.  I have been a QA/editor for some time and I don't know all the words, but I have lots of web sites bookmarked and I have a full library of reference books and software to use to help me find the term.  To me, this is such an important part of the editing process.  I hope you will continue looking for a job where you will get paid by the hour.  I know they are out there.  I have worked for 2 companies that paid by the hour.

Good luck with your job search!!  

those of you who do QA and/or editing
first of all, does the QA person also edit? Also would it be reasonable to be able to do 500 lines per hour of editing? This is all American dictators, physical therapy, very easy transcription. Yet, still, one must listen to the dictation, no? So would that be feasible. Finally, can one make good money at 3 cpl editing?  Please, editors/QA persons only to reply...
VR Editing
VR jobs do still need to be edited.  Some doctors dictate very clear and just about every word is picked up correctly, but you still need to do some minor editing.  ESR doctors can also use the VR software as long as they are willing to go through the training.  I guess the software "Learns" the way they speak - phrasing, accents, etc.  They may need more editing but it can be done.
SR editing

I love being an MT, but it is a very physical job, one that I am not sure I can or want to be doing for 35 to 40 more years because of the wear and tear on the body. But I think I can handle it easily if I'm doing SR editing full time or straight transcription half of the time and editing part time.

My question is, is it possible to make a good income doing SR editing?

thanks! editing?
Thanks for the tips and suggestions. About editing...how difficult is it to transfer from MT to editor? Are there specific requirements as far as number of years transcribing certain types of reports?
I like editing.
It saves my wrists and I can often make MORE money with VR than straight typing. VR is not going to end the need for transcriptions. EMR will to some extent.
editing it
i edit dragon for docs and i dislike it very much. email me as well if u want more details.
Are you saying there should be no editing
Editing VR
After editing VR for awhile now, I have come to the conclusion that this technology is out way before its time.  Hospitals and clinics using this technology really have no clue of what a mess it creates.  I have been an MT for a long while and I have been diligent to follow the AAMT BOS, etc.  I do not see how that is possible when trying to edit VR and yet make any money .  I am "dinged" for allowing words to remain in a sentence and yet I am given no recognition for the BS I remove.  This position is extremely underpaid and MTs are paying the brunt of this so-called technology.  Any other thoughts on this?
less money editing
Definitely more money transcribing than Editing.
I can edit at over rate of 400 lines per hour. That's more than twice my typing rate.

I make more money editing than typing.
Editing sm

I have been an MT for over 20 year and have been considering starting an editing service. 

As you mentioned, MT's could expand into editing for publications, pharmaceutical companies, etc.

Editing pay
I think to pay us LESS for editing is ripping us off! These reports still require manipulations on our part that we aren't getting paid for. I think editing is just a means for these companies to pocket the money we earn for them!
editing VR
Go to Transcend if you like that. I hate it myself.
I have been an editor/QA person for many years and rather enjoy the job. It is fast paced at times, but overall I have no complaints. The key to doing the job is to get good at it.

It is the wave of the future, hang onto it.
rather be editing than MT
I did QA/editing a few years ago then went back to full MT because I changed companies and couldn't just walk in as QA. But now I've just recently took on a QA/editor position PT and still doing MT fulltime. I do VR editing too and I love it. I would choose QA/Editor over MT any day of the week. I'm hoping to get fast enough with the new QA/Editor work to be able to drop the MT work.

I also did a search for "editors" on here with no luck, so it is nice to see some replies here.
I just took an editing job there, for QA and
I have not started but have heard great things about the QA team in US and the accounts. They have been very efficient on the hiring process, great benefits, great hourly rate for editing QA. I think it will be an interesting position, as opposed to straight typing. Looking forward to it. Good luck to you.
QA vs. VR editing

Given your choice, which position would you pick, assuming the cpl rate was the same?  Is QA a lot faster than VR editing?  If so, what is the approximate lph range for either?


editing is okay
The best thing about editing for me is that it catches words from ESL doctors that I might not get, and it helps to get through the longer dictations faster. But it doesn't always put down the right words even when they're clearly dictated. I also find myself with my hand on the mouse more and that hurts my hands more than straight typing.
Editing, of course, does require much more knowledge; however, it is waaaaaay faster than transcribing. That's why the cpl rate is less. Also, no risk of carpal tunnel syndrome. You should be making more money as an editor. If not, perhaps you still need to research too many words and are not yet experienced enough to edit?

Rosie (I used to publish medical textbooks; now I teach medical transcription)

500-600 lines per hour editing. This are 15 pages per hour, line count 40 per page.
She must have a great VR system or a physician who dictates very clearly.
VR editing
I agree that VR requires absolutely full QA - even having used it myself. If I were not correcting everything as I go someone would definitely need to come back and clean up after me.

The more VR is incorporated into the workflow of physicians, especially with EMR, the accuracy level of reports is going to be drastically diminished because most offices at this point are not hiring an editor/transcriptionist to clean up after the docs. The expectation is that the doc will make the corrections as they go along, which we know is NOT the case in most offices. Unfortunately, most EMR systems using VR does not allow for anyone to modify a report once it has been closed, so the garbage stays in the file once the dictator signs off on it. Very frustrating for an experienced Transcriptionist when we start losing accounts to VR/EMR systems.

We're working with both EMR and VR systems to try to integrate a system that will still utilize transcriptionists to provide the technology WITH the accuracy of a medical report. We'll see what the future brings, but as transcriptionists, I feel it is vital to hone our skills as editors. We have to stay one step ahead of the technology.