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Hyphens are used because 32-year-old and 11-pound are compound modifiers. SM

Posted By: MissouriMT on 2006-09-27
In Reply to: Typing ages - Pat

A compound modifier is two or more words that act as a single modifier for a noun.


For example:


32-year-old male


11-pound weight loss


22-gauge needle


1-cm mass


 




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Compound modifiers

For some reason i am having a hard time with these.  Does anyone have an easy way to remember quickly?


 


Thanks!!


If acct wants hyphens, you give them hyphens. Doesn't
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Compound adjectives...sm

Use a hyphen to connect compound adjective.  Omit the hyphen if the compound adjective follows the noun.


What is a coined compound exactly?
Is alpha-2 a coined compound?
2003 compound bombings
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_Compound_Bombings
That should be fine except for the hyphen (type 2 is not a compound modifier). nm
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Hyphens

? Should re-evaluate be hyphenated or never hyphenated.  I am from the old school that it should be hyphenated to avoid doubling vowels but in QA I was told not to hyphenate it.  Should the word penicillin be capitalized when listed in allergies and not any place else?  Thanks


hyphens

QA has told me lately do not hyphenate such words.  The reports that I type require allergies to be capitalized.  I thought that was pretty much standard.  Do you not have to capitalize yours?


hyphens

These are not words I've ever hyphenated.  When you use the o and the a as combining forms talar fibular...talofibular...there's no need for hyphens.


I have a problem with the use of hypens in that the new style book is not consistent with the on-the-job training I've had for 30 years.  I wonder where the people trained who wrote the new book of style for all of us who had English grammer 30 years ago.  Much to confusing.


Hyphens
I agree if the account wants hyphens, but they say follow the Book of Style and not all of the QA puts them in when they should not be there, just a select few who need to pick up the BOS and read it.
hyphens
Okay terrible with hyphens and always confusing to me.  Repacked and redressed are they hyphenated and can anyone give me a good rule to remember how I should know if a word like this is hyphentated.
hyphens sm
I have a thing about misplaced hyphens and apostrophes.

PER BOS: Compound modifiers
You DO hyphen BEFORE the noun, not after. So:

The patient is well developed and well nourished. (after the noun, no hyphen)

This is a well-developed well-nourished woman... (before the noun, so you DO hyphen)

Simple rule. I have an MT who really is screwy with hyphens. Examples:

I will the patient in 1-day. NOPE
I will see the patient in 2-day's time. NOPE, and this pisses me off! BOTH the hyphen and the apostrophe are wrong.

Now, I see non-distended and non-tender all the time. Is this right or wrong? Wrong as far as I am concerned, but I don't correct or count off for it because gee, it really makes no difference, no matter where it appears, it is not the above rule at all.

A QA person who THINKS she knows where every comma should or should not go is full of it. They are, as always subjective.

And most of them don't know this. It is explained in the BOS, which is where I got this, if you find I am too hard to follow. It is a grammar rule and probably something that you get slammed on, fairly or unfairly. Look it up in the BOS and make your case. If you have been an MT for a long time, YOU are probably right, not the QA person.

Is it: Your family is here or your family are here? Technically either is correct.

Marcaine 0.5% 2 mL were infused. WRONG, it is Marcaine 0.5% 2 mL was infused. Marcaine is your noun, not the 2 mL. I have been counted off for doing it right. Bet you have too.

There are plenty of these examples and there are the rules in the BOS. QA is NOT always right! I am not always right and I do it every day. Like you, I do the best I know how.

I have, over my time as an MT, questioned my skills many times. There was one time, 4 yrs ago, when I had an epiphany. I was not as good as I thought I was, plain and simple. I took a new job, had to learn a new Expander and almost start from scratch because I went from family practice to OP notes, nothing in between, I didn't pass go and I didn't collect $200! If I thought I was all that, I was wrong. It was an opportunity for me improve my skills and BE the MT I thought I was, but was not. I don't read every report, I do proof as I go along, but every couple of weeks, I will read word for word a couple of reports to check myself and make sure I am not getting sloppy, careless or losing something in the translation. We ALL get into bad habits that one company said was okay and the new company says is wrong. You have to look at it, honestly, and judge yourself carefully. It may be you need to pay more attention, but it may be that you are being harshly and incorrectly judged for work that is quite acceptable. If it is quite acceptable and they are pounding you, move on with a new, better job.

QA people sometimes think they are all that and in charge of you, and they aren't. We have MT managers to be in charge of us! They are often not as smart as they think they are, and they are not your superior in experience or skill either, not most of them.

I wish I had time to vent about being a QA, perhaps another day.
hyphens
What is up with it is that there are specific rules to placing hyphens.  Get yourself a good grammar reference book to use and you should avoid the problem.  Do you not think you have some responsibility for producing work that is correct?
What are your thoughts on using hyphens for sm--

Calcaneo-cuboid Joint and Talof-ibularJoint---also why would joints be capitalized?


Just got put on a new account and QA marked me wrong because I did not use hyphens or a capital "J"


Therefore, yes, in your case put hyphens.
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I would use hyphens in the examples you provided. sm

I would put 32-year-old male, but no hyphen if it's something like *Patient is 32 years old.*  (Same with 11-pound weight loss vs pt has lost 11 pounds.)  I can't quote the rule on this offhand, but whatever the rule is, I personally I think the hyphens make it easier to read/understand. 


Hyphens in the wrong places
Thank you! This is why I am so upset. I know this is wrong and my hands are tied. Not all of the QA where I am change this, but a few do. The bad part is that it is fate which determines which QA checks the work each day. Wish only the good QA people were in control.
I agree. AHDI has a 'thing' with the hyphens, put them in here, take them out there... etc..
Anyways the newest trend is to rather leave them out, acc to BOS 3, so, if in doubt, leave them out, like the commas.

As soon one has learnt the changes, new rules come along.

It was

A 10-cm incision was made.

Now it is again

A 10 cm incision was made.
I am sure you do, you 300 pound MT.
So, get a mirror and take a look at yourself. Get a membership to Curves and lose at least 75 pounds. The people getting attacked are the ones who like MQ, they are the ones who start it and if we respond, you make it worse. You think I am going to sit here and take crap from some lard a** who is ugly and lives in a trailer park? Doubt it. So, go type and don't worry about me, that is, if you can fit in your chair.
Have you tried calling the pound?
Wonder what they'd do with the goat?

I was visiting my MIL this week, and there were three beagles running around her yard. They kept coming up on her porch, so I led them out to the road. They followed me quite happily. Then somebody drove up in a truck and just observed us. I wandered over to ask if he was missing any beagles, and he was the dog catcher! He had been called about FOUR beagles. I just told him they weren't mine, but they sure were friendly! He asked if they'd come to me when called, and I said SURE! But then I left him to call the dogs himself, LOL. I can't help it if dogs don't like him. :oD
LOL it's POUND sand... nm
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Pound Sterling (GBP It is..(SM)
Pound Sterling is the currency in Channel Islands (Aldernay, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark), Isle of Man, and United Kingdom (England, Great Britain, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, UK, GB, GBR). Pound Sterling is also known as the British Pound, the United Kingdom Pound, UKP, STG, the English Pound, British Pound Sterling, BPS, and Sterlings. The symbol for GBP can be written £. Pound Sterling is divided into 100 pence. The exchange rate for the Pound Sterling was last updated on June 13, 2008 from The International Monetary Fund. The GBP conversion factor has 6 significant digits.
How's this for a fun fact? A pound of flab is the...
equivalent of four sticks of pure butter.  Thought this would make some laugh.  I just started running and found this fun fact in one of my fitness magezines.  So that means I have 100 sticks of pure butter on my butt and thighs that I want to lose, LOLOLOL!!!
It sounds like if feel you don't want to pound
IC job on-line?
My huge 19-pound cat lies on my footpedal
and I constantly have to chase him off of it. :)
My 75 pound husky likes to "sm"
come and take her ball and toss it on my keyboard! When I have enough and tell her to quit, she will lay it very sweetly beside my keyboard! She knows exactly what she is doing!
get business cards, pound the pavement....sm
go to medical center buildings and sell yourself with your business card, your resume if required, and your own self-confidence!!  Good luck!! 
I cook mine low - about 225 or 250, for about 10 minutes per pound
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There are laundries that will wash/dry/fold by the pound sm
I have taken in Laundry Mountain and had it all finished for around $40. Of course it's going to be different wherever you are. It did get me caught up and I was able to keep up with it for quite a while.
Be prepared to pound those keys for a national

and you have to be able to stay focused if you chose a national requiring set hours.  Consider your benefits.  There are pros and cons to working from home.  I would say unless you have a really good reason to type from home, then keep your day job.  I do fine myself because I am an IC, but I sometimes feel very isolated from the outside workforce.  I do have children, but adult conversation when you are pounding those keys all day is hard to come by.  The other duties you speak of on-site keeps you sane!  Just my opinion!  Good luck whatever you decide.  The money is just not there anymore working for these nationals unless you are willing to put on long days and pound out about 300 lph. 


Penny wise and pound foolish
Cheap ones don't save in voice files. They're hard to use so most likely your doc will not bother to pause or rewind for dictation. You may save some money now but you will end up wasting more time to decipher the recording. The best one is Olympus DS5000... every word can be heard clearly with that.
DId NOT work. Had to pound the keys -- took it back in 2 days. nm
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Please, don't "ex-pound," I probably meant expand!. It's late! Thanks
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My cat veterinarian authorized us to use cat Frontline on our 5-pound tiny toy poodle
She said it goes by size and he's the size of a small cat.
I have an 80-pound, 3-legged husky under my desk--- keeps messing with the foot pedal! - sm
So I have dog now lying down somewhat quietly but breathing his hot breath on my legs, makes it hard not to laugh hysterically ---- certainly hard to work, but it is funny.
Mine are in year-round thank goodness! They've started their new year 2 months ago.
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Union diesil mechanic - good pay, great benefits. We swap year to year on who brings home more sm
money.....but I am an IC and he has all the benefits...health insurance/dental that the company pays for, pension plan, 401k, etc.  Factor all of that in and he makes way more than I do.
to cowgirl - Last I knew, last year the job paid $25,000/year no taxes, etc.
The hospital was bombed about a year ago, but not a lot of damage, very minimal damage.
44-year-old WF, M, Texas, 3 grown kids, just had 26 year wedding anv.
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nope, still crunching last few days of year to hit my 50k this year. how can you when you haven'
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Lemon pound cake wtih lemon drizzle. mmmmmmmmm
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Nothing this year. We ALWAYS got a cool surprise in the past, but this year nothing. :-( nm
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After I went to a 1-year MT course at a vocational school, it was so bad that I did the 2-year colle
Not only did I finally receive the proper training, but the woman on the advisory board hired and mentored me. I also joined the local AAMT and networked. Good luck. I know how frustrating it can be. A community college will have a good program to include medical language, MT courses taught by local MTSOs, business English, anatomy and physiology, pathophysiology, etc.
I think he makes $700,000.00 a year, and if they ask him to walk before his first year MQ has...sm

to pay him a cool 1 million dollars.  You can check this out at the Medquist website.   I think the CFO makes $350,000 a year, and the head of IT makes $250.000 a year.


P.S.  This does not include the perks, like expense account, car allowance, sign-on bonus, etc. 


Our 16 year old son has been working for a year now to pay for his truck.
He's learning how to sand and do body work and how the engine and transmission go together. My parents didn't buy cars for my siblings and I either. I had a 20+ year old beater car until I could afford to move up to a a newer one.

I see all the nice new cars parked in the high school parking lot every day. It's nice that so many disrespectful punk kids get handed something nicer to drive than what all the teachers drive. Oh, well. Honestly, I think most of them borrow Mommy or Daddy's car or are the child of a doctor who can afford to hand them everything.

Hopefully, my kids will take better care of their cars because they bought and built them on their own. You're not going to grow up to be responsible if you don't work hard for something and expect Mommy and Daddy to bail you out all the time.

Oh, my Dad lectured us on even allowing our child to have a vehicle because Dad didn't have one until after he had worked his way through college, lettered on the football team, got straight As, lettered on the baseball team, yadda yadda. He either walked or hitched a ride. Yeah, well, times were different back then, Daddy-O. LOL At least my kid has the opportunity to work and earn his own car.
IC - 30 hours week, $98K last year. So far this year - 28K. sm
Individual IC - own account(s).
Not me, owed last year, and expect to owe this year- sm
or break even, had more expenses this year. Only owed $200 but still don't want to owe at all. Need to start doing estimated tax payments again so I don't owe! Guess I will get off my butt and do that this year.
come on.. you cannot compare a 2-year-old and a 15-year-old
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46/F I have a 9-year-old girl and a 12-year-old boy.
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Got $$$$ back last year but this year
I have to pay them, sold a property I never lived in but I had enough sense to set aside $45,000 so just waiting on them to send me my WT2s so I can get started.
Ask me next year. sm
I quit as an IC telecommunting for a hospital where I was making $35,000 a year, and started for a national as an employee in April. So far, only made $4600 with them. Big OUCH! But just getting the hang of expanders and the 4 accounts I have.

Can't wait to see my end of year :(