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I'd be interested in some examples. There are absolutes, and then there are

Posted By: differing styles. nm on 2006-05-17
In Reply to: What do you do if you totally don't agree with - the way the QA/MTSO transcribes?

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My absolutes are...
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unrealistic absolutes for ICs' or no pay?
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Examples
thanks sm.  Which other mt board are you talking about?  Thanks for the help!
ok..examples..sm
Ok, admittedly, my Expander was huge, containing many sample reports which I type over and over almost word for word such as in op notes, etc. Most of those are now gone; but, also gone are those such as prz for prednisone, ARMC for Auburn Regional Medical Center and others such as that, along with my capital I which i really depend on to be sure i get a capital I when I need a capital I....pd for per day, and I could go on and on, but you get the point. Just wondering if anybody else has lost parts of their expander?
Any examples?

Could you give me any examples of questions asked?  I am just curious.


Thanks!


I believe all of the examples you have here are

more examples....
*j* would be used such as "precj" for precaution, or *prcj* for procedure.  *z* would be used such as *stabz* for stabilization.  I should have put these examples in my earlier post.  Also, I use *g* for words that end in *ing* such *bgg* for beginning. Have other words such as reviewed as *rvd*, reviewing is *rvg*.  But as stated, I have been using abbreviations for about 7years. Some of my abbreviations don't make any sense, but I remember them that way!! LOL.  Words that I don't like to type get abbreviated!!!  Hope this all helps!  Good luck!
some of my examples...
One thing I do is use a j in place of -ion. For example, hos = hospital
hosj = hospitalization

I also use a 2 to make everything all caps - for example hpi2 = HPI chf2 = CHF

If I have a PA dictating for a doctor I have their last name with a 4 to spell out the signature line; for example - brown4 is Joe Brown, P.A., dictating for Jane Doe, M.D.

I also use the first letter of each word for long phrases such as tpcit for the patient comes in today...

Hope some of these suggestions help!
examples?
what are some of the things horrid QA people do? I lucked out by getting a good one back when I had QA years and years ago... i'm just curious...
Examples of flyers

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some examples of errors

You did not specify how many examples you wanted, so I included quite a few, hope it helps.  All of these are from one group of radiologists, all american.  In answer to your question, unfortunately most of these I believe to be the result of laziness.


THREE-VIEW RIGHT HAND


There is decreased relative small of the distal aspect of the 4th metacarpal. (There is diminished size of the distal aspect of the 4th metacarpal.) Otherwise, the hand is unremarkable in appearance for a patient of this young age. 


MRI LUMBAR SPINE


 


This is best visualized from L3-4 through L5-S1 where there are actual images in addition to the sagittal imaging through the entire lumbar spine.( This is best visualized from L3-4 through L5-S1 where there are axial images in addition to the sagittal imaging through the entire lumbar spine.)


 


 


ABDOMEN, THREE VIEWS


 


The colon has lost his Hounsfield markings in the transverse portion and splenic flexure. (The colon has lost its haustral markings in the transverse portion and splenic flexure. )


 


CT ABDOMEN W/WO CONTRAST


There is a small left inguinal hernia with fat within the hernia sac but no bile (no bowel).  No inguinal lymphadenopathy.


 


NAME OF EXAMINATION:  Sinuses.


FINDINGS:  Paranasal sinuses demonstrate generally some metric pneumatization.( Paranasal sinuses demonstrate generally symmetric pneumatization)  No bony abnormality is seen.


 


MRI OF THE LUMBAR SPINE


 


Compared to December 23, 2003, there has been no objective change in the L5-S1 left posterolateral disk herniation. It causes narrowing at the left lateral recess. It doe snot produce central stenosis. ( It does not produce central stenosis.)


 


OB ULTRASOUND COMPLETE


 


There is no polyhydramnios. However, the fetal kidneys are abnormally hyperechoic. This has been associated with polycystic kidney disease and so I recommend a postnasal follow-up study.( This has been associated with polycystic kidney disease and so I recommend a postnatal follow-up study.)


 


MRI OF THE HIPS WITHOUT IV CONTRAST


 


The muscles about the shoulder show normal signal on all sequences.( The muscles about the hips show normal signal on all sequences. ) There are no soft tissue masses.


 


RIGHT HIP TWO VIEWS


 


DISCUSSION: There has been destruction of the right femoral headache and femoral neck.( There has been destruction of the right femoral head and femoral neck. )


 


AP PORTABLE CHEST


 


EXAM DATE: January 22, 2005 at January 12, 2005 hours(January 22, 2005 )


 


 


MRI ANGIO ABDOMEN BEFORE AND AFTER IV CONTRAST


 


TECHNIQUE: 3-D time of flight MRA of the abdominal aorta and renal arteries was obtained following contrast administration. In addition, evidence of the kidneys was also obtained before and after IV contrast.( In addition, imaging of the kidneys was also obtained before and after IV contrast.)


 


TWO-VIEW CHEST


 


FINDINGS: Left apical pneumothorax measuring 1-2% is stable. Left lower lobe maxillary sinus is again demonstrated.( Left lower lobe mass is again demonstrated. )There are no other findings.


GALLBLADDER ULTRASOUND


 In the porta hepatis, there is a consistent with echogenic lesion measuring 1.1 cm.( In the porta hepatis, there is an echogenic lesion measuring 1.1 cm) This could represent a lymph node in the porta but also could represent an exophytic hepatic meningioma. (This could represent a lymph node in the porta but also could represent an exophytic hepatic hemangioma. )


OB ULTRASOUND COMPLETE


 


 


DISCUSSION: There is moderate dilatation of the left renal pelvis. There is mild dilatation on the right. However, neither uterus is abnormally dilated. (However, neither ureter is abnormally dilated. )


 


 ULTRASOUND OF RIGHT BREAST


There is heterogeneous echo texture in that region compatible with typical combination of breast parenchyma and fatty/femoral tissue, but a discrete mass lesion is not identified. (There is heterogeneous echo texture in that region compatible with typical combination of breast parenchyma and fatty/normal tissue, but a discrete mass lesion is not identified.)


AP PORTABLE CHEST


Underlying fusion is suggested, again worse on the left than the right.  (Underlying effusion is suggested, again worse on the left than the right.)


LEFT SECOND TOE


 


There is an old, healed fracture of the proximal phalanx of th cleft third toe.( There is an old, healed fracture of the proximal phalanx of the left third toe.)


 


TWO-VIEW CHEST


 


There are remote compression fractures involving the right 5th and 6th ribs.( There are remote fractures involving the right 5th and 6th ribs. ) The lungs are otherwise clear.


 


THYROID ULTRASOUND


 


DISCUSSION: In the left lobe of the thyroid, there is a moderately large maxillary sinus that measures 2.2 cm in greatest diameter and is mostly sold and have a cystic center. (In the left lobe of the thyroid, there is a moderately large complex mass that measures 2.2 cm in greatest diameter and is mostly solid and has a cystic center.) The remainder of the left lobe is normal.


 


There is a small 6 mm nodule in the inferior aspect of the right lobe. The gland itself is not overall enlargement. (The gland itself is not overall enlarged.) The gland is heterogeneous overall in echogenicity.


 


 


TWO-VIEW ABDOMEN


 


No convincing evidence of small bowel obstruction, although developing shortness of breath could theoretically give this appearance and follow-up is recommended. (No convincing evidence of small bowel obstruction, although developing small bowel obstruction could theoretically give this appearance and follow-up is recommended.)


 


 


OB ULTRASOUND


 


DISCUSSION: There is an intrauterine gestation with a large yolk sac. However, the crown-rump length measures 7 mm and this corresponds to an estimated gestational age of about 6 weeks 4 days. However, there is no detectable cardiac activity. The amniotic fluid volume is probably normal of ra fetus of this age.( The amniotic fluid volume is probably normal for a fetus of this age. )    The placenta is closed. (The cervix is closed.)


 


 


EXAM OF LEFT FOREARM


 


 


FINDINGS: No fracture. There is prominence of the anterior fat patient which suggests effusion. (There is prominence of the anterior fat pad which suggests effusion) No other findings.


 


MRI LUMBAR SPINE WITHOUT CONTRAST


 


Tip desiccation of L4-5. (Disk desiccation of L4-5.)


 


 


TWO-VIEW ABDOMEN


 


FINDINGS: Findings of right chest, cardiac size is normal, no infiltrates or effusion. (FINDINGS: Upright chest, cardiac size is normal, no infiltrates or effusion.


 


 


TWO-VIEW CHEST


 


Stable right breast opacity, likely represents


fibrosis.( Stable right basilar opacity, likely represents


fibrosis.)


 


AP CHEST


 


 


Picture of congestive heart failure/volume


overload not significantly changed from


exam 4-hours earlier.( Features of congestive heart failure/volume


overload not significantly changed from


exam 4-hours earlier.)


 


 


RIGHT SHOULDER


 


FINDINGS: The patient has history of a right humeral fracture, plus surgical fixation noted.( The patient has history of a right humeral fracture, postsurgical fixation noted. ) Alignment is intact.


 


IMPRESSION


1. Postsurgical change involving the right


proximal femur.( Postsurgical change involving the right


proximal humeral.)  Alignment is anatomic.


 


 


 


OB SONOGRAM


 


FINDINGS: Transabdominal and transvaginal evaluation of the pelvis was performed. An intrauterine collection and yoke sac is identified. (An intrauterine collection and yolk sac is identified. )


 


 LEFT HIP


 


 


FINDINGS/IMPRESSION: Two-view left hip demonstrate a fracture of the neck of the left humerus in varus angulation.(  Two-view left hip demonstrate a fracture of the neck of the left femur with varus angulation.) No additional fractures identified.


 


 


THREE-VIEW ABDOMEN


 


In this since, bowel gas pattern slightly improved since the 14th, but otherwise there has been no significant change. (In this sense, bowel gas pattern slightly improved since the 14th, but otherwise there has been no significant change. )


 


NUCLEAR MEDICINE CHOLESCINTIGRAM WITH GALLBLADDER EJECTION FRACTION


 


.After initial accumulation of tracer within the gallbladder, the patient was given solid bolus intravenous injection of CCK and additional anterior sequential imaging was obtained.( After initial accumulation of tracer within the gallbladder, the patient was given slow bolus intravenous injection of CCK and additional anterior sequential imaging was obtained. )


 


MRI BRAIN BEFORE AND AFTER IV CONTRAST -


 


 


There is confluent periventricular signal abnormality in the lungs bilaterally consistent with chronic small-vessel ischemic change.( There is confluent periventricular signal abnormality in the pons bilaterally consistent with chronic small-vessel ischemic change.) Probable remote lacunar infarcts noted in the left posterior frontal subcortical white matter.


 


THREE-VIEW ABDOMEN -


There is gas within the large and small-bowel. No distension. There is a round calcification in the pelvis which probably represents calcification in the wall of a cyst. There are no suspicious calcifications. No pathologic skin or nipple alterations(this sentence does not belong in this report). Mild hypertrophic change in the lumbar spine.


 


 


TWO-VIEW CHEST


 


 


REPORT: Bones free of consolidative infiltrate.( Lungs free of consolidative infiltrate.) No pneumothorax or pleural effusion identified.


 


LUMBAR SPINE SERIES


 


 


REPORT: There is very mild levocurvature of the cervicalium spine. (There is very mild levocurvature of the thoracolumbar spine.)


 


THREE-VIEW ABDOMEN


 


No evidence of bowel destruction. (No evidence of bowel obstruction.)


 


 


CERVICAL SPINE SERIES


 


FINDINGS: There is a fracture of the CT vertebral body inferior to the junction of the dens with the body.( There is a fracture of the C2 vertebral body inferior to the junction of the dens with the body.)There is retrolisthesis of the dens in relation to the CT vertebral body. (There is retrolisthesis of the dens in relation to the C2 vertebral body. )


 


What are some examples of deductions you use?
nm
I was just giving examples.
I didn't see the posts in question where people were complaining about only making $20/hr. I was just trying to point out that all of us have various issues, and there is no way to know why someone can't make it on $20/hr. It isn't always pure greed. Sometimes I think it is just to easy to judge someone on a forum when we don't have the full story, especially this one where everyone is completely anonymous. We don't know the posters issues and why they are having trouble. Most people don't share their whole life stories on an open forum. Some just want to vent somewhere where others are facing the same issue.

If you want to hear complaining though, you should hear to the millionaires around here complaining that they had to sell their jet or their 3rd vacation home because of the money they are losing in this economy. Poor things! LOL.


Which ones, give some examples.....
We are NOT talking about TYPOS here, there is a difference between TYPOS and not knowing the right spelling.

You should know the DIFFERENCE !

Give some examples of posts with wrong SPELLING, IF YOU CAN!
Which ones, give some examples.....
We are NOT talking about TYPOS here, there is a difference between TYPOS and not knowing the right spelling.

You should know the DIFFERENCE !

Give some examples of posts with OH, SOOO TERRIBLE SPELLING. These are mostly just typos.

I noticed that there are a lot of matron-MTs who have NO, absolutely no idea where to put commas, so that I was pondering if they have a keyboard without a comma key.

Example: MT way tooooo long and others too.
I would use hyphens in the examples you provided. sm

I would put 32-year-old male, but no hyphen if it's something like *Patient is 32 years old.*  (Same with 11-pound weight loss vs pt has lost 11 pounds.)  I can't quote the rule on this offhand, but whatever the rule is, I personally I think the hyphens make it easier to read/understand. 


Can you give us some examples of the contradictions?
It's pretty normal to be really freaking stressed out when starting a new MT job, let alone being a newbie with a new MT job. However, I'd like to know specific examples of what they are doing to help with advice. Good luck!
We try to set good examples for our kids. We rarely

drink, don't have alcohol in the house except for cooking wine/sherry, don't smoke, don't do drugs, are honest, hard working people.  My oldest son has "friends" who smoke, who put vodka in their Coke cans, cuss, steal, etc.  My son is a good kid and no I'm not naive and he isn't doing this stuff behind my back because we spend lots of time together.   My son is a health freak and won't allow anyone to smoke around him.  We've also tried to explain to him that even if he isn't drinking if someone he is with is caught drinking then he is guilty by association and he knows he needs to avoid these kids.  He has come home before upset that kids were using seriously foul language.  The "F" word at our house is spelled f-a-r-t. 


We live in a country club community.  The kids around here get new cars when they turn 16.  The parents don't keep up with their kids, just give them money.   My son has to earn his car with saving $$, keeping out of trouble, and good grades.  I don't keep tabs on him 24/7, but I know where he is at ALL times so that if I need to find him I can.  He even asks me if he can get on-line so I know he isn't using the computer for porn.  He is concerned that he doesn't have enough testosterone because he isn't wanting to sleep with anything that stays still long enough.  Don't know that his friends are, but they talk a good talk anyway.  


I think you are wise to be concerned and just need to keep open communication with your kids and hope that he makes good choices.  My son was a follower when he was younger and I had serious concerns about how he would be growing up, but now he has become a leader and I'm very proud of him because so far he is making good choices. 


Regarding the Advance article, here's how I would have handled the examples

I'm curious how other MTs would have handled them?


1. Hemoglobin 9, hematocrit 39. (I would have flagged this with a blank for the hemoglobin and sent to QA).


2. The nose and mouth were suctioned on the perineum (during a C-section dictation).  (I would have changed "perineum" to "abdomen" and sent it on).


3. SKIN: Without lesions, rashes or scars (Patient has HIV and kaposi sacroma).  (I'm not the doctor.  I did not examine the patient.  Therefore, I would have transcribed as dictated and sent it as usual).


4. Left atrium is normal, measuring 4.6 cm.  (I don't get paid enough to second guess the doctor on whether the LA is "normal" or not.  You get what you pay for.)


5. VITAL SIGNS: Heart rate 70, respirations 18, BP 120/70 (in an 18-year-old with a comminuted ankle fracture).  (Again, the patient may have gotten pain medication by the time the doctor saw him, so perhaps he/she didn't have pain at the time of examination and so the vitals were normalized.  I wasn't there, I don't know.  Type verbatim and send it on!)


We need actual examples of patients harmed by outsourcing
to take to the media. Then we could probably get enough interest for someone to do an expose on it.
quality as in ethics/morals/education/parenting/will to do one's best and set examples for others
qualities as to working hard to make your life better and not settling for second best so you can drink your six-pack and rent videos while your kids run wild. you know what i'm talking about. quality as to have no grasp of consequences of one's behavior.
Google contract samples, basic contract examples, etc.
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I'm interested in a MT Course??? HELP!!!
Can anyone give me some advice on going thru a MT course?  I would very much like to do an online training but not sure if they are legit or not.  I have some information from Allied Health which is about 1500. Is that normal?  Does anyone know of any better courses?  Is it okay to take an online course?  I have so many questions but don't know who to ask.  Do you guys get paid decent money?  HELP!!!  HELP!!!  All answers will be appreciated!!!
I was interested but...sm
I was interested in finding out answers, not listening to flaming.  You were rude to the poster in your first post.  How is that helping anyone?  No one else had to have a rude comment.  So, no I am not interested in your post if it is smart instead of productive. 
B and E. Not interested! nm
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Who is interested?
Insurance companies are interested. If you are running for political office, lots of folks would be interested.
Not interested
I am not interested in your suggestions. I posted a message to the Administrator, not to you or anyone else. You don't tell people what to skip. Since we are making suggestions here...I SUGGEST that you not respond to my messages that are intended for the administrator.
I'm interested in this myself.
I would only need it to receive faxes, not send. It says that with the free account you get a non-local number versus a local number with a paid account. This wouldn't matter if the person I am getting the bulk of my faxes from is not local anyways, would it?

Also, I am referring to the efax software. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!

I'm interested

Hi, there - I'm actually in the Midwest, but have the capability to handle uploaded dictation, and am definitely interested in taking on a new account.  Do they require the MT to be located in their area?


Theresa


I am interested :) Thanks! nm
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I don't know, but am interested as well
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I am interested in VR, also. Which co. is this?
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Interested in more than QA sm
I don't know if it was clear in my original post, but I am interested in more than QA, for instance supervisor, manager, coordinator, etc. QA would be last on my list.

Interested in tips on moving up in company.
Not Interested
I don't believe a word she says and am not interested in communicating with her!
Would be interested to know

what are some of the negatives, if you wouldn't mind sharing...I was actually thinking about applying at a state hospital, and there seems to be a lot of good reasons to take the job.  So, I would appreciate your input on some of the things I might want to be aware of before making my decision.


Thanks!


I would be interested in this as
well, if you hear anything!  I use my F11 key as well and would like to try another key.
I am interested in this too!
I have just started hearing about the EMR system.  I have heard this will do away with clinic reports, ER reports for medical transcriptionists, but it will not replace acute care.
You getting me interested!

Ok for my headings I have hpiub which will expand to "HISTORY OF PRESENT ILLNESS:  " all in bold letters.  Is this what you mean by a macro or do you mean to actually set up a macro in MS Word?


Thanks


I'd be interested to know if you have the facts on this
Not flaming at all, just would like to know what goes on, what they're not telling us.  I've seen documentaries on how humanely they do it, by injection for cows and they give pain relievers to chickens.  Am I being naive here?
Thanks, i'd be interested to learn more

Butting in here... I am very interested in sm

this.  Is it hard to learn?  I know I probably sound ridiculous but I take it we just have our headsets on and dictate what the doctor dictates, right?  Can you edit as you go along, such as putting in addresses and such?  This is intriguing to me.  Does it end up saving you lots of time in the long run? 


Thanks for any information you can provide.  I would love to have one of these, I think.


To snowbunny and anyone else interested...
You asked what line rate I thought my experience and expertise was worth. Realistically I would think anywhere between 13 and 15 cpl. Of course, that would put me back to where I was nine years ago! Forget inflation, I would be happy to have my old radiology clinic back at that rate but, wait, they are now paying a large corporation 8 to 10 cpl. And, the corporation is paying someone in a third world nation a pittance of that. However, for the Transcriptionist in the third world nation the salary is great! Perhaps we should be happy that we are doing our best to bring these third world countries into the main stream. While that sounds sarcastic, it is not completely sarcastic. I do not begrudge the transcriptionist doing the work. I am just tired of Corporate America paying the executives exorbitant salaries with "golden parachutes" and leaving the worker hanging. Executives can ruin the business, trash the name of the company in the news and still be handed a bonus in the millions! Sure the upper management should be paid more for the responsibilities they bear, but 500%, 1000%, and more?! This is happening in every business - not just ours and I believe it is the main reason that we are losing business to other countries. American companies cannot pay American workers what they should be paid in order to live in our society as long as they pay huge salaries, bonuses, and buyouts to their failed executives. Perhaps executives should be paid only if they produce and the company is successful ... kind of like a ballplayer! Start losing money and you are out of work! But wait - that will only cause them to fire more American workers and piece meal out the work to people who can live on less. Where are we going wrong? Yes, we need corporations to make a profit, yes we need to pay upper management for their skill and expertise, but shouldn't we (the collective we) try to keep American workers working???
Im interested and whants to know more.
Well, im a Editor already for MQ and im not sure if i want to renew my contract with them. It actually interesting to teach kids english. Is there a online school or training program for this i so could learn while doing my current MT work?
Here is a question for anyone interested....

I was reading on another board...   The problem with the larger companies was switching from account to account to account.  However, learning the account specifics (or at least printing them so you can refer to them) should not be that hard.  I want to know what is so hard about jumping around? I work 7 accounts as an Editor and never have been able to figure this particular "gripe" out.  Docs are docs are docs.  No matter what hospital they are at.  Reports don't change that much.  How hard is to jump from to another? I just don't see why this is such a problem.  Your paycheck should not be an issue, because as an MT you should be able to transcribe any doc out there.  If you really have an issue with this, you might want to rethink what you do for a living.


 


But in saying the above, just for a note, I don't understand these MTs that can only do 800-1000 lines in 8 hours either.


I am an older MT (16 years) and have had to do all of it.  Never thought once about any of it except do my best at it, learn from it and then excel at it. 


The thing that really interested me is the sm
potential to set my own hours as a deposition court reporter. I also see jobs to do closed captioning for television working at home. Right now I just want to be sure - before I spend the money and time - that this is a field that won't be taken over by VR anytime soon.
A few more tips for those interested

I use the number 8 key for my ectomy words.


For examply.  Appendectomy is programmed as a8


Cholecystectomy c8


Hysterectomy h8


Tonsillectomy t8


You get the idea.  In the rare instance that this interferes with another word (i.e. T8 on a spine exam.  I type t8n which means (NOT) so it will expand to simply T8.


instead of using the semicolon, I do pretty much the same thing but with the slash / on the right side of the keyboard.  I use this pretty much when i can divide words such as t/a  therafter.  u/w  underwent   u/g undergone l/h lightheaded.


for family members I use the number 9. For example,


 b9 is brother s9 is sister sil9 is sister in law d9 is daughter gm9 grandmother gd9 grandaughter.


I use the letter z quite a bit to just to phonetically shorten words.  For example.


dz disease  anz aneurysm rz resolve rzd resolved rzg resolving bz because czd caused czg causing etc.  If i here a "z" sound in a word I take advantage of it.


My psych words take the prefix nut. nuts is psychosis nutc is psychotic  lol.  Cute, I know, but I never forget these.


For really common words that I type a zillion times:  AR anterior pr posterior ll lateral ml medial I try to make these as short as possible.


KEEP THE TIPS COMING.  This is great to share.


Do you have a link? I'm interested.
nm
I would be interested in knowing this as well....

Question - I am interested in getting
Vonage. I have roomates & have to share a ground line. There is a teenager in the house who is always monopolizing the telephone. Would I be able to get Vonage set up just for myself on the computer, or would I have to get the person who has the land line to order it?
Would your niece be interested ...sm
in talking with one of the agencies that works with pregnant women that really goes in depth with her about the options? If you know anyone who had an abortion try to have her talk to them because I've not known any woman who had one that didn't wonder about the baby and what the child may have been like if they hadn't aborted it, and despite what the abortion doctors try to say - it is a surgical procedure and ends the life of a child and there are emotional implications from that. She should also talk with women who have given up a child for adoption as well. If she's serious about not wanting to keep the child then she should consider adoption and realize that there are resources out there to help her through the pregnancy, including the pregnancy bills, and alternatives that will give the child to a loving home instead of a dumpster.
Dr. Phil seems only interested in
for his weight loss supplements and snack bars.  I read the ingredients and they are full of trans fats, which are the ones that plug up your arteries.  Now he is in movies too.  Tired of him and his pop culture psychology.