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I agree on the illegals but .....

Posted By: Fed up!!!! on 2005-10-28
In Reply to: I agree with you completely. It is our government that ALLOWS this - TM

they're not the only ones sucking our system dry. I live in a state where 10% of the working class pay for 90% of those freebies on the government payroll.

My mother raised two children on her own. She had a high school education, worked her butt off for everything she had, sometimes working two jobs. She NEVER asked the welfare dept for a dime. If we didn't have the money, we didn't buy it.

But no, I see those beautiful cars sitting in front of the projects. Thought they couldn't have all these expensive things and still get all the freebies. My brother and I didn't get free healthcare, free dental care, free vision care. No one came out to make sure our home was UP TO SNUFF.

Heck, we got million dollar NEW homes going up in our town, single family homes. Tearing down the OLD single dwelling homes and putting up new homes, all for the taking of those who have some reason they can't do anything for themselves, while my mom watches this all happening, knowing she didn't get the freebies and the help. She doesn't say much but BOY AM I PISSED OFF!!!!

My husband and I work for everything we have. Our kids have better than we did, some would call them spoiled I'm sure.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind helping any in real need, that's why God put us here.

But you know the old saying, give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, teach him how to fish he'll eat for a lifetime. Of course, I've seen many who don't want to learn how to fish either, they just want it at their doorstep.


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Illegals
You must live up north somewhere-- they are always climbing over the fences, running across the desert, etc., and you can see where they've been by the trail of dirty diapers, trash, cut water lines, using cattle watering holes for bathing, etc. I live in Arizona, too, and whenever there is any crime here, shootings, child kidnappings, etc., the first place they head is back across the border. Our car insurance rates are ridiculously high because they pick out a model they want to steal and across the border it goes-- especially if you have a 4 X 4, SUV, etc. The Mexican police use them for their patrol vehicles. I also worked for a local hospital and when they get sick, they flood the ERs with no insurance, of course, and the ERs are obligated to treat them. Everybody else has to sit for hours because they can't get in. Then of course, the "bleeding hearts" sign them all up for AHCCCS, which is the state welfare for health care, and they get everything for free-- while we have to pay higher health care costs to cover it. I could go on and on. I am not against people coming here LEGALLY, but the word here is LEGAL. I don't care if they are from India, China, Mexico, or where-- the word here is LEGAL. This country is just like Rome being overrun by all the barbarians, and we all know what happened to Rome. The same thing is going to happen here-- just wait.
illegals
Ok if I must I will go in to detail here for you, Jay. And anyone else who must know. I only know about 3 LEGAL folks that are Mexican immigrants. BUT I have met MANY illegals and I will tell you why. I live in Southern Mississippi. As I am sure you know Hurricane Katrina hit this area dead center. It was indescribable. Well A LOT of illegals saw an opportunity to work and they came to this area. Well my father does disaster cleanup. He had a lot of equipment and crews who did cleanup for the state. Well he did even though it is wrong hire many illegals to work for him. I know other people too who did the cleanup who also had a whole bunch of them living on their property also and I mean a lot of them. I have met many, many illegals during that time. Not just ones who worked for my dad but others. My dad has now realized he made a mistake letting them work which is a whole other subject. He knows it is better to leave them alone let them find work elsewhere. But he learned the hard way you can't help them. I have also. But that is how I have come to say it is from exp. Experience with many of them. They seem so humble and pitiful at first. But they aren't what they seem. Most anyway. They begin to expect more and more money. They will steal you blind. The many I have met yes. Dad lost every piece of tools that weren't too large for them to fit in a vehicle. He has a 500 sq. ft. metal building that was stock full of every kind of tool and equipment you can think of he had gotten over the years. EVERY tool down to his screwdrivers were stolen little by little and no one but these illegals working had access to these tools and other things. He is having to start all over buying these things. Do you see now why I feel this way. I have known so many. I am not someone who runs their mouth without knowing what I am talking about. Oh and when I say they don't have good hygiene these people would work all day in the hot sun and you can imagine how bad they would smell and come home and have access to showers and many wouldn't take them. THAT is disgusting. I'm sorry. So yes Mr. Jay I have known quite a few illegals. How many do have YOU know?
Illegals
They don't care who they live down the road from --- they have more rights than the cop does.

I called a local hospital and was told that all illegal immigrants have FREE unlimited medical care, covered under a government program called Trailblazer. The hospital representative told me that they are not allowed to turn anyone away, so the government set up this program to partially compensate the hospital for the care of these illegal freaks. The rest of their care is passed along to private pay patients and insurances companies. The insurance companies then raise their rates to cover their losses, and fewer Americans can afford insurance. God Bless the USA --- at least if you are a foreigner. In my area, it is Arabs. They (even the illegals) free education, free medical care, free social social services, food stamps, free legal services, free housing, etc., etc., etc. Of course, we are all paying for these "free" services with our tax dollars.
I will state also that the illegals I know ARE..sm

They are paying taxes so they don't get caught....albeit some of their papers in order to pay taxes are fake.  They also work 2-3 jobs per person and are contributing greatly to the economic success of this country and are slowly but surely TRYING to get legal.


And you can take that to the bank!


illegals and jobs

My 2 cents. They should throw the book at anyone hiring illegals in the first place. Fine any business tremendously! 


If they allow these illegals to work as citizens, they are not going to work for peanuts anymore! They will want as much as everyone else makes! There go all those jobs that we need!


Yes, America was made by immigrants but this is too many people! Why can't they allow so many people  from each country?


One last thing, there are many corrupt border control guys on OUR side of the fence receiving money for allowing illegals to cross. That is the truth!


The illegals also can work at these low wages because
they live 5 or 6 families to a house. Every time you hire illegals (and if a job is bid at half what an American can do it, they ARE illegal) you are contributing to the destruction of America. Have you ever read any reports of what its like to live in a neighborhood with illegals? It rapidly declines into garbage and filth. This is the only way these people know to live. They do not care to assimilate into our society. They would rather we degrade down to their level. Enjoy that money you save. May you also enjoy a few of these families coming to YOUR neighborhood.

Oh, and don't think they just live in low income areas any more. Nah, they are spreading into the McMansion neighborhoods. 7 or 8 families per house can afford to live there, and Bank of American is oh so happy to loan them the money. Ain't American great?
Your reasoning does not make illegals ok, still
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This, in my opinion, ranks right up there with the illegals using....
your Soc Security number to work under. It's an illegal act, no matter which way you look at it. And, when "they" are tested on the phone for an interview, how is that going to fly? This whole reeks of illegality and purely a *wrong* thing to do.
I'm with you on the illegals, but paying taxes is not an insurance policy.
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Puhleez, what exactly is the government doing about illegals crossing the border?

Absolutely nothing.  NOTHING!  The government sanctions sending American jobs oversees, puting thousands of American workers on unemployment!  So why should I or anyone else feel guilty about trying to get what we rightfully deserve?


As far as testing on the phone goes, doxie, you can be listening on an extension and write the answers down for your husband.  Don't feel guilty.  You're going to pay your taxes.


oh our lovely government does give illegals medicaid, foodstamps, and housing so in term we give tha
i have been through some rough times lately and had to apply for some help. there are signs, big signs, all over our offices saying "YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE LEGAL TO GET HELP". so we and our government do give them our benefits whether they are legal here or not. now that is messed up. i am helping to support them so they can take away my jobs and i can't even support my kids and yes i get benefits, wow $75 a month in food stamps which lasts not even a week in a household of 6. don't get me wrong, i am thankful for any help at the moment, but i get penalized for trying to work my tail off and still can't survive.

there was recently an article in our local newspaper where one of our local school districts tried to charge $1000 a year for each illegal student enrolled. it was bulked and the illegals got a lawyer to sue for discrimination. the school district merely stated that they had to HIRE extra teachers that could speak the foreign language just to teach these children and were trying to offset some of the expenses. ridicilous!! so again our taxpayers money is paying to educate illegals as well.
Agree, agree, agree! Just listen to Benny Hinn..

he speaks perfect English, especially when asking for money!  Also, in my opinion, blanks should be left in the doc's dictation if not able to be transcribed, maybe then they will know that are NOT understood.  With QA fixing them, what need is there for them to care if we understand them or not? 


I agree with you....

I mean afterall there is no evidence that she is dead.  From the beginning I thought they were guilty and I still think that Joran knows something (not saying it was an intentional murder-- probably an accident)  The biggest thing that plays on my mind is why did they lie in the beginning if they were innocent.  I believe that they were covering up for something.  There have been theories that she went for a swim and drowned but there has been absolutely no trace of her.  No shoes, handbag, nothing, which leads me to believe that everything was gathered up and taken somewhere. 


I feel for the family but they need to let the Arubans do their job abiding their own laws.  I know the mother has said she will stay until she finds Natalee but you can't live in Aruba forever.


I agree....

I think you have to blame Natalee herself before you blame the chaperones.  What was she thinking going in a car w/ three strangers in a foreign country???  And also, what about her friends.. what were they thinking letting her go to the bar or leaving the bar alone?  Back when we were in college and were on spring break or just bar hopping in this country..... you NEVER let your friend go off w/ some strange guys.  That is just common sense.


I agree!
It is stated above, "I wouldn't give my daughter 2 cents towards a trip to Aruba at age 18. There's only one reason to go to an island like that, to drink."

Thank you! Me either!

I feel awful for this girl and her family. I really do. But no way in Jerusalem would I have allowed my 18-year-old son OR daughter to go to Aruba (which is a colony of the Netherlands, where pot is legal and who knows if there's any regulation on alcohol).

An 18-year-old is in no way socially savvy or emotionally prepared to be turned loose in a strange place with very loose laws and be expected not to get into some kind of a situation that he/she is in no way prepared to handle.

NO WAY

I really hope they find this poor girl, but it's not looking good.
I agree - for all we know
they could have taken out a second mortage on their home to finance this "vacation".
I agree with you...
besides if I sat all day and typed an American doctor who dictated in monotone speech I'd be sleeping by 10 a.m. I look forward to the challenge of transcribing the ESL's every day..it makes our jobs more rewarding!
I agree
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I do agree with that...

Evil does exist no matter where you go and my post was meant in no way disrespectful to you or your opinion (I hate it when a flaming war starts like the ones above).  I just know how one seemingly insignificant comment can start a whole line of growing misinformation...  Kinda like that game we probably all played as kids..telephone or whatever 


I did not hear about the comment of America being the Great Satan, that is interesting, I am going to have to check that one out! 


agree...

IN some cases we did, but do you really think the Indians didn't do the same?  There is a myth about indigenous peoples on any continent being "noble savages," but in truth, there were warring thieving tribes among the Indians here who leeched off the peaceful tribes before the Europeans got here.  Lying and cheating are not exclusively European virtues.


I still say they need to get over it.  We spend way too much time in this country talking about mistreatment and ills of the past - we need to spend more time and energy on building a future for the children and grandchildren we say we love so much.  The best way to give them a successful, peaceful future is to let go of our resentments and choose to love our children more than we love our grudges.


I agree with you (sm)
it takes a village to produce a perfect report! LOL! I embrace the feedback from QA, both positive and negative.  And I make notes and try not to make the same mistake twice.  Life is a learning process, anyways.  The day I stop learning, I guess will be the day I die!
don't think so, i agree, it is a
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I don't agree.
We get a lot of local coverage, but what about national coverage like on Fox, MSNBC, CNN, etc.? Every single news network has been focused on this one single incident on just about every show from 7 to 11 p.m. for months.  Nancy Grace gives a 30-second blip in her missing person segment, but the majority of her hour-long show is devoted to the Holloway case.  Look at all the help that was donated to the search effort in the Holloway case because of media attention and contrast that to the help that could be focused on other cases in addition (not instead of) had they received the same saturation of news coverage.  It's not a generalization, it's an actuality.
I agree
Yes I agree with both of you Joran was involved.  I think it was drug related probably not to her knowlege, an accident or something and then they panicked and did whatever they did.  When you hear that the father actually said, "No body, no case", that sends off bells to me.  My fear is they know she will never be found, and he will just do his 116 days in jail or whatever, and her parents will never have any closure.  Sad.  I hope we are all wrong.  I hope she shows up somewhere like Elizabeth Smart, no matter how traumatized, it can be dealt with.  However, I still don't think it is fair to all the other parents with missing children who cannot get their story on CNN for 3 hours a night, not for even a minute.  That has to be a plight worse than hell, not knowing; and thank God I don't know how it feels and hope I never will.
I agree with almost everything you said except for
the fact that you don't think our work impacts patient care. I have to disagree with that one. So many times the things that we transcribe are read and re-read to help those giving direct patient care a better understanding of what is going on with their patient (I used to be a nurse and quite often read previous transcriptions). While we are not directly involved in patient care, we do have an impact on their care. Anything that is placed in the chart has an impact on the care because if we transcribe something incorrectly (which we all do)whether it be MR#, wrong med, whatever and nobody catches it then it becomes a part of the record and may be referred to many more times down the road.

I do agree that a lot of transcriptionists would be happier if paid by the hour with incentive bonuses for QA and/or production, but like you said, that is not likely to happen.

I am glad that we can get on this board and discuss our different opinions with others. Sometimes it gets a little lonely working at home and it helps to know other people's insight into different things.
I have to agree...
Degree in advertising and marketing and promotion and choosing to do MT. How pitiful is that?
I agree

I can do 1800-2000 lines a day, so 1000 is a piece of cake.


I agree
On of my good friends is trying to get pregnant now and she thinks becoming an MT at home is going to be easy. She is planning on taking the education direct MT program. I told her, she better know what she is doing.

I doing all the research I can, so I won't make a big mistake.

After reading the posts I don't think it's worth it. I feel I can be a better mother to my child if I continue to work outside the home now. Like a pp said being home physically isn't enough, you need to be their for your children emotionally and mentally. At least once I leave my office, my work stays there and I can give my attention to my baby.

You all have helped so much!!!

THANK YOU:)
Have to say I agree with you
Luckily, I didn't have to do it at home part time, but I had a job away from the home during the day, and worked at home typing in the evenings and weekends.  I had 3 kids to raise by myself with no help, so I did what I had to do to make ends meet.  But I know they felt neglected when I was at home, and "always working."  Luckily, they grew up okay, but it was hard, and there is always the guilt of "always working".  I remember them saying those words very clearly.
I actually agree with you. What gets me is SM
when people in this situation go on to make things infinitely worse by having two, three, or MORE kids. Get some common sense, people! It's bad for the kids, and the rest of us are sick of being expected to pay (literally and otherwise) for your mistakes!
agree
Agree you should get it all. Sorry she had a stroke, but you are working your butt off to keep her afloat.
yes, I agree

That is what I am working on, keeping at it.  Hard right now for me with 3 kids at home and in my face sometimes.  But only 1 month till school.  Ahhhhh, cant wait!  Still, I find that after my 1000, I start to dwindle a bit.  I want 2000 a day, so that is my goal I am working towards.  Have to find ways to motivate myself. 


I also strongly agree with you about the attitude component.  That plays a major role in our jobs.  With changes coming on board at my company, I find the better the attitude, the better it all goes for me. 


I agree - sm
Career Step is the BEST I have found in my research, and have had the best luck with girls coming fresh out of that course and training them... diamonds in the rough, and they were OUTSTANDING!  It is a course you do on your OWN, so if you are successful in the course in managing time and focusing, then you will do well as an MT.... just realize we all SUCK at first... it is experience that makes the MT....  Don't take constructive criticism to heart, USE it to the best of your ability.  I have been a mentor, and OSi actually has great mentors for "newbies"....   Good Luck.... and let me know if you need any help or have any questions....  Bobbie
Unfortunately, I have to agree with you on this one.
American customer service people over the phone, who probably think they are too good for the job they are doing and feel the need to take it out on me by being short, condescending, and sometimes nasty on the phone.  The Indians are very cordial, friendly and patient and are grateful to help. 
Yes, I agree.
and MTStars being watched more closley for this damage control because it pop ups on the first page of Google and Yahoo for keyword: Medquist.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=medquist&btnG=Google+Search

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=UTF-8&fr=sfp&p=medquist
Oh, I agree with ya, except....

I have to look up every single lab test that she abbreviates (incorrectly) because our account does not allow for ANY abbreviations (for this reason, I guess).  She has listed over 37 different lab tests in this report and half of them she abbreviated incorrectly.  I have to look them all up in Stedman's path...if not in Stedman's path then in Stedman's abbreviations, and then if not in Stedman's abbreviations on google or path sites.  I spent over 2 hours on this one 27-minute report. 


I normally love the long, meaty reports especially if they're OPs.  But this woman obviously didn't know what she was doing...and the worst part is that she isn't new.  She does this all the time.  I cringe when I see her name show up in my job list, which it usually does about every 5 months and then 10 jobs in a row.  So I'll probably spend all 8 hours on just her 10 reports and be lucky to make 800 lines.  Yeeehaww.


Well put. I agree...
I am an instructor at a career college. We dropped the MT program 2 years ago. (I still teach medical terms, but now I teach medical assistant students.)The program was dropped because we couldn't place new graduates, and it was clear that the field was headed in a different direction--not only VR, but also overseas outsourcing. That was a wake-up call to me. I'm still in the MT business as a QA specialist and consultant, but I have expanded my editing skills to include legal clients, and I also do freelance proofreading for a magazine. I applaude your decision to earn a bachelor's degree. Good luck in your new field.
I agree
I was never sure why it mattered so much if an MT in Kansas or Bangalore saw that I had gallbladder surgery. I am more concerned that these people either in US or foreign countries have access to Social Security numbers, which I still see plenty on reports that I type. Also there may be concerns about some conditions finding their way to potential employers or insurers.
I agree.
I think it would be nice to have a method in place for MTs to test and reinforce their skills, but this CMT thing sounds like a ripoff. A whole lot of noise signifying nothing except some bucks in someone else's pocket.

Sort of like AAMT.


I AGREE
AMEN~! I have seen that too and it makes me want to grab the kid myself, but I would rather spank the mother!!
I agree...it's so sad.
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agree 100% (nm)
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I agree

I've read your post and Sandra's, and I agree with Sandra.  I would not want you typing my medical records or those of my family, I can certainly tell you that.  Lord only knows what would end up on there.


 


(Amy would type:  The patient had a right knee "baloney" amputation.) 


I agree
There have been numerous discussions regarding food, what's for dinner, crock pot recipes for the last couple days and this is the first to get censored ?????
I agree
I was really blown away by the informative people and the kind way this information was accepted. Go to all of you. Thanks for listening to all of us who work for a better world through information.
I agree but
I had to get that off my chest.  I believe that rude people should somewhat be held accountable for their actions just like everyone else.  I think that she should be banned from here for a while.  There should be guidelines to posting.
I agree.
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Agree--
Try VLC instead.
I can't agree. sm
If your child got arrested and was suspended twice in 10 days, there was obviously already a problem.  I wouldn't lump all the blame on grandma.  Maybe the way you have been handling it hasn't been working. 
I agree with you with
That was pretty juvenile but I can sense her frustration. There's obviously a vicious circle going on between giving and taking. But what really irks me is when an obvious newbie posts a question and then gets raked over hot coals because "she should know the answer if she'd only taken the time to look." So she heard ariness (or whatever). Did YOU try researching it? Googling it? Didn't come up with much of anything did you. She was at her wit's end and this board could have very well been her last chance. It reminds me of a fawn entering a den of hungry lionesses.
I agree

What's to be gained by "reporting?"  If it isn't done during hours she is paid to work for the service, or on their equipment, it's nobody's business.  Period.