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I am afraid the medical profession is in real

Posted By: Wannie on 2006-07-26
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trouble if doctors take as much time caring for their patients as they do with the dictation concerning their patients. I realize they are busy, but, my goodness, some of the dictations are almost unitelligible. They either talk so fast that nobody could possibly understand them or they speak so quietly, put the dictaphone on speaker and pick up all the background noise, etc, etc, that the transcription is next to impossible to do. It is no wonder there are so many medical malpractice suits these days. Sorry, just had to vent a little.


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Not just in the medical profession
I've seen the same thing with executives and non-execs in many fields. I've had to listen to dead space, too, and yes, it's a waste of my time. Unfortunately, there are lots of time wasters for everybody, and after the post on turnabout is fair play, I can't seem to have such animosity about it. I can speed the dead space up and chat on the board or do some of my correspondence, etc while I'm listening to the dead space.
Not about ME, about OUR profession, you know, MEDICAL TRANSCRIPTION?!?! SM

I haven't been talking about ME!  You're the one talking about me.  I'm talking about something that concerns us all.  If you can't see that, then you are blind.  Obviously this is a subject you are uncomfortable with.  You've yet to contribute anything of substance or intelligence to the discussion.  You've just wasted space insulting me.  You're a big part of the problem.


Is medical coding a dying profession like MT?
My income is in the crapper and keeps getting worse and worse. I love working at home, been doing it for over a decade, so looking into something I can do at home. So what about medical coding? Offshore problems? Technology advances pushing out the "real person" coder? Any disadvantages? Worth learning and getting into at this point?
We have a cocker spanial who is afraid of storms and afraid of the dark! He is up every night severa
Even with a night light he still gets afraid of the dark and I have to get up and pet him and tell him it is okay, et cetera. He will finally settle and go back to sleep, but will do it again throughout the night. I let him sleep in my room thinking it would help..but it didnt. He is just a big baby, so we love him and try to make him feel as safe as we can. If we have to deal with thunderstorms and the dark we are in for a long night!!
Cook it real slow at real low heat; simmer, don't boil.
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This is our profession -- a profession which is dying, I might add. SM

So I should get a hobby so I won't care, like you?  A hobby isn't going to pay the bills.  I can't afford a hobby because in addition to working for a living, I also have to study in a different career field in my spare for fear that eventually transcription will be strictly an offshore operation!


I would buy new a Dorland's Medical Dictionary, Stedmans Medical and Surgical Equipment...SM

and Tessier's The Surgical Word Book, 3rd edition.  Books you could buy used I would say would be Stedman's Pathology and Lab Medicine and Cardiology/Pulmonary word book.  These are all the books I use the most during my day.  You could buy other speciality word books as you need them and could probably go used with those.


I wouldn't bother with buying a drug book, new editions come out every year and I just stick to the FDA website and RXList as my drug references.


Also FYI, not a book, but I use my Stedman's Electronic Medical Dictationary a lot.  It's easier to open the program than it is to pick up a huge 30-pound dictionary.


Medical Transcription In The Era Of Electronic Medical Records
EMR has revolutionized the healthcare industry in recent times. Many experts felt that EMR & Voice Recognition would totally replace Medical Transcription - however; the industry soon realized that transcription has certain advantages over point & click charting and many physicians preferred to dictate notes rather than document the data at the point of care themselves.
That's what I was afraid you were going to say.
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Why are you afraid?
Why are you afraid to state your business name?  You have said yourself that you rather like Indian MTs when compared to US MTs, so why not come forth?  Could it be because you really do need the US MTs to run your company and make your bucks? 
I'm afraid...
I've been sworn to secrecy. I simply cannot divulge!
I'm afraid...
Janelle lost the final HOH competition and Yvette won, who immediately evicted Janelle, so now its just Yvette and Nurse Maggie. Yvette basically gave the game to Maggie now since most of the evicted guests do not like Yvette and won't vote for her. How dumb!
I'm just afraid
she'll do it and LOOK OUT when it comes time for her to flash her
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if ya know what I mean. LOL
Her and her boyfriend might be approximately Demi and Ashton's ages, but that is the only similarity. LOL


Yes, I'm afraid so...
Tonight at midnight, according to PC World. They said it probably won't do much damage, and is a single person doing it. Weird. U might want to go to Microsoft's web page and get their just released security update for this - I did and I feel all safe and cozy!
That's what I'm afraid of!! nm
nm
Afraid so, saw one ad for 6 cpl...
I've been trying to get extra work for a while now but I will not work extra hours for what they are offering, especially when it is left over stuff and late hours.
I'm not afraid

I am just a very private person and I do not want other people knowing my business unless they have a NEED to know it.


If you want to shout from a soapbox, find something worth shouting about. This is getting boring.


That's what I was afraid of. Thanks...NM
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That's what I was afraid of...
I saw a demo of Dragon NaturallySpeaking 9 Medical Edition on the Nuance website. The doctor in the demo dictates a section of a report and the software makes no mistakes whatsoever. While this part is hard to believe, he then says "select congestive heart failure", which the software does and highlights. He then says "ICD-9 that", and the software inserts the correct ICD-9 code in parentheses behind the selected text. The ICD-9 codes are pre-programmed and inserted based on recognized *text*, so as long as the right text is highlighted, the only way an error could occur is if the programmers had entered a wrong ICD-9 code, which is unlikely and would be quickly fixed with a version update. I don't know if this will eventually eliminate coding or if it will just make coders more productive, but that coding course at AHIMA is looking more and more like a waste of money. An online Bachelor degree is beginning to look like the only way out of this conundrum.
P.S. Don't be afraid to go over the head of
your local boss, they are likely to stonewall you. You should follow protocol and START there, but do not hesitate to carry it further if not satisfied.......... the protocol for this is actually outlined on QNET.
thats silly. what are they afraid of if
I mean come on, we won't become millionaires.  There should NOT be a limit on how much you make.  A raise per year for cost of living, a raise or higher rate for experienced and good MTs, and also a raise for putting up with the BS.
Don't be afraid to tell her how you feel.
My brothers and sisters would get together and talk about how my mom is. I told them to tell her, but they said they did not want to hurt her feelings. Yeah, but it's ok for her to hurt ours. NOT! I finally told my mom. She was very defensive at first. She did not speak to me for about a month, but then she called and said she was sorry. If you are honest and sincere, things will work out. Your sis will never know how you and your other sis are feeling if one of you does not step up to the plate.
Don't be afraid. Use the law to your advantage. SM

Stop a minute and think about this. What other person on the planet would be allowed to do this to you? Not one. The reason he is allowed to do it is because you let him.


"Tired of working?" Hell, we're all tired of working, but we do it because we have to. You keep your chin up, girlie. Find you a rat-hole and put some money in it. Even if it's a quarter at a time. Save your change, filch from your paycheck. Get a little padding there so you will have some options.


I lived with a horribly abusive man who took advantage of me for 30 years. I'd still be living with him but he's dead. I know I'd never have left.


Don't get me wrong. I adored him, God knows why - I let those "good times" outshine the horrible times and I stayed with him till death did us part - all to the detriment of my poor children. I have a daughter who thinks it's noble to stay with an abusive man. I have a son who, I'm grateful to say, is kind to his SO, but he endured a 10-year relationship with a lying, emotionally abusive girl - all thanks to me.


Do it as soon as you can. If that guy quit his job because he's "tired of working" there's nothing he won't do. Sending a hug. I know where you're coming from.


Not for me--I would be afraid they would somehow make
nm
Thank you. I wonder if you would be so kind as to tell me how to zip? I'm afraid I'm at a lo
x
Everyone is so afraid to ask for a raise.
I guarantee you that the people you work for have gotten a raise in the last 4 years, so why not you? Just do it. Like you said, all they can say is no, or give some BS excuse. But just look at the enormous increase in gasoline over the past 4 years, never mind everything else. No one can continue on the same salary.
Those afraid to ask for a raise are their own
This is one of the major reasons why women are paid at least 20% less than men doing the same job. Women are intimidated to just go in and say, "Hey boss, I need a raise."

Many years ago, I was working as a cashier. Certainly not a great job, but for low level work, it didn't really pay that bad. I had been there 5 years, had received my usual raises and a merit raise. However, I still felt my level of flexibility by being able to take over in a lot of other departments at a moment's notice made me a valuable employee. I went into my supervisor, told them what I thought my value was to the company and asked for a dollar an hour raise. He gave it so quick, I probably could have gotten more.
I would be more afraid of American
because they know how to identify theft better than offshore countries I'm sure.  
I don't see why employers are so afraid to ask for ... sm

at least the minimum lines each day.  I used to work at a hospital where the required minimum was I believe 40 minutes, which ain't a lot of work.  Most times (and this was when we were in house) the girls would chat and chat and chat and go for lunch and chat and chat, etc., and never work.  And they got by with it because they were too scared to demand that these people stick to the guidelines by which they were hired.  One day I went in to work OT on a Saturday and worked 4 or 5 hours, and I don't remember what my line count was, but one person typed 12 lines.  And she was supposed to be the regular Saturday morning person.  Some saturdays I would go in to work and there would be NOBODY there.  NOBODY typing in a hospital transcription dept. just because it was Saturday.  They got by with it for years, continued to get by with it, and we lost our jobs to MQ because nobody worked and nobody made them work.  Me, I worked.  I worked a lot.  I had (still have) goals, meet them, exceed them routinely because I happen to like paying the bills and having money left over.  Like I always say, people whine on here about no work but when there's a lot of OT to be worked they are nowhere to be found. 


I'm where you are afraid you'll end up

I'm in my mid 50s, and I'm not sure decent paying transcription jobs will be around until I hit retirement age.  Actually, despite saving, I'm not sure I'll be able to retire period.  I figure I'll have to work at something until the day I drop, and sometimes I think that if that happened tomorrow, it wouldn't be a bad thing.


I've always worked 2 and sometimes 3 jobs, and I've been self-employed.  I didn't mind putting in the hours in my 20s, 30s and even 40s, but I'm getting tired now.  I'd like to have a life beyond transcription.  Back then, I didn't necessarily have to work all those hours but chose to.  Now, I have to work them.  It's too late for me to go back to school.  There's no time when you work 7 days a week, 10-12 hours a day, and I can't afford to take on that kind of debt.  I'd be 60 by the time I finished, and who would hire me?  How much better off would I be starting all over again at the bottom? 


If you have something else in mind for making a living, particularly if it requires going to school or going back to school, and you can do it time-wise and financially, then I would encourage you to do it now.  You are right to worry, and you don't want to end up where I am.  Best of luck to you! 


I am afraid if you are working on
inhouse equipment, you are stuck with what they approve. IT would have to install anything for you, and some of these things have licensing privileges. I didn't know anybody outside HCA was using meditech. The best we could do was canned text and of course, about the time I got a bunch of abbrev's in there, we got dictaphone and instant text, but we had no leeway at all about anything. magic 20 was a function key that let you go into other functions without leaving the one modem you were typing in except for radiology and pathology.
Afraid of another depression in USA

howdy! I am afraid some of us are.!
I had the same thought you did and had to laugh. Wonder where she is. Reminds me of when our governor Ann Richards said at the democratic convention, "we can do everything the men can do, we just do it backwards and in high heels".
I'm afraid I have to agree with others who have said.... sm
...that, as MTs, we're not in a position to question the actual care chosen for a patient, no matter what our personal experience has been.

On the other hand, I *have* had concerns about a patient's care when it has involved dictators who fall asleep during their dictation then wake up and continue dictating the report -- only obviously they're talking about a different patient ... or the dictators who routinely list a med in the patient's allergy section and then also list that same med as being in their current regimen ... or those who routinely mix left/right, male/female, etc., throughout the majority of their reports.

Still, even with that kind of thing all I've been able to do is notify my QA person and tell them that I'm concerned about the quality of the medical record because of the dictator(s) and then IMO it's on their head to either give the facility a heads-up or not.

But, unless we have medical degrees and have been invited to consult, it's not our concern, as hard as that may be to hear.
Yes . . . I know, but I am afraid of losing my job if I do.
nm
Welcome to the profession. Get used to it.
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Consider another profession?
To standardize testing you have to have every single company use one lone resource. What if company A is more concerned with ESL skills, company B is more concerned with oncology, and company C would like to know whether you rock at op notes? How do you standardize testing to cover every area that a given employer might want to concentrate on?
Definitely a profession. This is a
you will get a lot of pessimism and negativity.  I definitely have made tons of money in my own business.  Sounds like low self-esteem on the posters below, unhappy, depressed.
This is not just in this profession but
all over. I sat and waited on a call yesterday (my off day) regarding a piece of property I have up for sale. No call at all. I really hate to leave a message on a recording because most of the time you are ignored. Times have changed and not for the good. I think the majority of my family including my mother and my grandmother who are deceased would probably be shocked at today's life as we live it.
which profession
would you let us know what you decided to do? I'm wondering what I want to do next.
re: which profession
Dental Hygiene...usually takes 2 years but have to do it part time so I can still earn a living so is taking me 4 - I'm more than halfway done though, so can't complain...
our profession

This is old, but has anyone read this??  I must research further what the final outcome was.  While I totally agree with what they are doing and why, I totally DISAGREE with their final recommendation for standardizing line counts. VBC is not the way to do it.  


 


 


You ask anybody in any profession
They will say they are worth more than they are being paid. That's the way it is everywhere. I make good money sitting at home. My local hospital pays their transcriptionists 9.40/hr. Big deal! I'll rather stick with a MTSO any day.
Our profession/New job

About three weeks ago I began a position with a local health care company (transcribing for local acute care hospitals but part of a national chain).


We are not really transcribing, at least not by my definition (21 years of experience).  Rather, we are recording medical ShortHand (abbreviations [even in DIAGNOSES section], shortened medication names, slang, contractions, etc.).  On the one hand, they claim they want you to type it verbatim (no expansions, additions, etc.), yet OTOH they say to delete redundancies, repetitions, etc., which is hardly verbatim. We are not allowed to expand, add to, or correct ANYTHING except number and tense dictated by ESL docs, who comprise about 60% of the dictators.  In addition, certain dictated terms are to be abbreviated (e.g., "emergency room" transcribed as "ER").


The supervisor had the gall to look me right in the eye and deliver a harangue about how these are "legal documents, and we have to transcribe EXACTLY what they say."  (Conveniently disregarding the bit about deleting redundancies and the other "allowed" changes.)  So ALL of my previous employers, AAMT, etc. did it wrong, and THEIR crackerjack legal department is smarter than everyone else?!     Don't think so.  Cutting costs is the game they're playing; everyone can see that.


Excerpt from a typical report looks like this:  Wrote scrip for vanco 100, patient also to take aspirin 81 and will return next week. I don't think .... [blah blah blah]


AAMT taught me to create a complete, coherent, grammatically correct document that doesn't look like alphabet soup.  Needless to say, I don't feel good about what I am creating and HATE THIS JOB!!


I'm just curious if this is happening elsewhere.  With all of the emphasis on "cutting costs,"  I have to think that it is.


Thanks for listening to my splenic venting.


afraid insurance is going to drop me...
Two years ago I became an independent and have individual insurance.  During the application I put on there I had quit smoking (former smoker).  I now have a procedure coming up, and during the consultation for this procedure, my doctor asked me if I smoked.  Well, I do "occasionally" but I did not expect him to ask that question, so I fumbled and said "yes, but not every day."  Now is this grounds for my insurance not covering me?  Is it possible they can dig through the paperwork specifically to find this and nail me on it?  Or can it be accepted that at the time I signed on with them, I in fact was not a smoker, but started up between then n now, so they have no grounds?  I'm scared, as I cannot afford this procedure out of pocket!!!  What do you guys think? 
sounds like he needs attention and is afraid

Don't be afraid to work at home

The reasons you have cited in your message are the exact reasons I chose to stay home and transcribe 30 years ago.  I did not want to leave my babies in someone else's hands, so decided to stay at home to transcribe.  I do not regret my decision one bit!  Yes, in the beginning, it was tough to get used to being paid by productivity, but you learn short cuts, you learn the discipline to stay seated at the computer when you should be.  If you take away the costs of traveling to work, plus whatever you have to pay a sitter, you may even end up making more money staying at home. 


A lot of people have negative things to say about a lot of the national transcription services (I can agree with most things that are said) but in your situation, it is an ideal solution.  You just have to find a good company to work for.  They are all looking for good, experienced MTs, so you should not have any problems finding another position.  The larger ones will also supply you with the computer and all the other hardware you need to do the job.


It is not worth getting yourself all worked up with a baby on board (congratulations, by the way!).  Try to find a good national to work for and then tell your hospital job good-bye. 


30 years or so down the road, you will be glad you "took the plunge."  I wish you the best of luck, I know what a difficult decision it is to make.  Please let us know what you decide.


I'm afraid I'm simply too loyal to MQ...
to put them in a bind like that. Shame on all y'all!
Personally, I'd be afraid to be loyal to MQ.

I would be afraid of receiving a lethal
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I was afraid to buy Clorox wipes. Do they
I was afraid I'd wipe everything with them and they would bleach my clothes or whatever they came in contact with.  Thought surely it must be colorsafe bleach if they put it in wipes, but I didn't want to take a chance!