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I meant the ICs. People who gross $40 /hr still have to SM

Posted By: Becky on 2005-12-19
In Reply to: I have no expenses except to buy my - No Names Please

take everything out of that. THat's what I meant.


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A computer's OS (operating system) is only meant for a 1 time install on 1 pc. People like yours

who abuse this are just looking for a cheap break, jack up the price (theoretically speaking) for the rest of us, and are asking for a myriad of problems on their pcs.  To deter this behavior, about 1 year ago, many computer companies ceased to include all software when packaging the pc for shipment.  It is because of software abuse/misuse, computers that are delivered with a pre-installed OS are delivered without the OS + other necessary software, due to behaviors such as yours and many others.  However, if you call the company and verbally request all software: OS (installation CD), as well as other necessary software (tools systems, drivers, diagnostics, utilities, print driver, internet security, and WP/Word/Excel, et al), they will gladly send it to you free of charge.


i think it is incredibly gross. personal hygiene commercials are just gross anyway.
this one is stupid and gross.
Sorry, 'MT way too long,' my post was not meant for you, it was meant for Wow! Sorry!!...nm
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if you live among trashy people, low income people, people w/o goals or direction,
content to just get by, you by default become a part of a group. "people" have decided to group trailer people as trash. that is because there are enough people in that group to earn the title and even if you aren't trash, you are categorized by others. did i think i was trash in lower class neighborhood surrounded by people who drank and fought all weekend? no but i knew i wasn't staying and did not try to pretend that all the fools in the neighborhood were just nice folks who ended up where they were because high horse snobs deemed their neighborhood low class. people for the most part live exactly where they belong because they don't want to educate themselves, they don't mind "trash" around them and they don't want to be bothered trying just a bit hard to extract themselves from that world. they justify everything to themselves i guess saying everyone who doesn't like their lifestyle is a snob and the comedians (Jeff Foxworthy/Chris Rock, etc) who make fun of them are just ill-informed.

As for me, I fought hard to get out and don't even want to look back. It amazes me people stay for generations.
A gross line IS a gross line regardless if it's 90 characters long or 1 character long... SM

I'm very sorry that your lines are 90 characters line and you get paid by gross lines.  You are cheating yourself - that's not my fault.  You cannot change the definition of a gross line.  So I gues I'm not understanding what you are trying to say.  Now if you are trying to say that your line equals 90 characters and that's how you figure your lines, than you are not using gross lines.  You have defined a line to be 90 characters, whereas most MTSOs define a line as 65 characters.  If that is the case, then I must say again, you are cheating yourself.


So which is it, do you get paid by gross lines or by a 90 character line?


65-gross line vs.65-gross character line

Can someone explain the difference between these two?  I am assuming that the gross line is better than the gross character line.  How much better is being paid by the gross character line than just by the standard 65-character line?  Does anyone know how much difference it would make in dollars and cents?


Thanks.


so many people was wishy-washy nowadays...love to see people make
a stand for what they believe in...

it is kind of wierd those statements have to be made in the first place but guess we are an ever-transitioning country and are still young. so many different beliefs yet not much tolerance.

I found your post respectful, and right on as to how you feel. it does not seem that difficult to sift through to read and respond to messages someone might not care for...
Just remember that it is not the people on this board who short changed their people and ONLY after
caught did they (after they were suied) make an effort to look good by sending out these checks. Now, think about this--had they done this many years ago when they short changed everyone, that would have been honest. Does it not bother you that only after they know they are under the gun that they are doing this to try and make themselves look good?

I used to work for MQ and I used to like what I did. I never can say I really liked the people that I worked with, but I really think they had some of the best accounts that I have ever come across in the MT industry. I loved working the major teaching hospitals that I did, but that certainly does not mean that I enjoyed being cheated out of pay.

So chill already. People have been cheated, were lied to, and only AFTER they got caught have they tried to return some of the money they robbed us of (as well as cheated their clients).

We all have reasons not to be happy with this company and you go off on us because we are complaining of things like small refund checks of a penny or a few cents or a few hundred dollars and NO WAY to even check to find out if this is correct?

I am sorry you are unhappy all of us thinking that there is still a dead rat in the cellar, but there is still a dead rat in the cellar and nothing will bring the dead rat back.

I would hold no love for a company that I know willingly cheated the very people who helped THEM make money out of their hard-earned money.

Go take a deep breath and think about that.
My people skills are just fine. I just want to hire people who want to work.
I've not been ugly, I've asked questions, legitimate ones.  Please tell me what is wrong with that.  This site is not just for MTs, it is for QA Editors, Supervisors, Service Owners, there's even sections for Billers, Coders, and Nurses.   
rude people? I would take good pay over polite people any day
Besides that they have never been rude to me and I have been here for almost 2 years. What do you consider a bad account?

I know my account is a little tough, but I am used to it. I am tough!
Rude people? I hardly think so. They are some of the nicest people I have ever worked with. sm
Not just management, but QA as well. No one is rude. They are a very understanding staff. There is one account that is hard but all it takes is getting used to it. Once you are used to it, it is no harder than any other ESL account that you would do anyplace else. I have heard all these things about TH from the archives and I have yet to come across rudeness or any kind of thing that I have read about in the archives. I would definitely pursue them if I were you. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
2 people to do that amount of work, is she nuts? More like 20+ people - nm
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How do you know she is gross?
Do you personally know her?  I dont' think so.  Everybody has skeletons in their closet, hers are just magnified because she is in the public eye.  Don't judge people you don't even know.
What was gross?
Perhaps you happened to look in a mirror instead.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
GROSS
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She is gross, but
I do like her Sierra Mist commercial
gross
Gross lines are anything on a line counted as a line, even if it is only a couple characters. I think 9 c/gross line is usually equal to about 12-13/65 cpl.
Gross!
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that is so gross!
who would even come up with such a strange combination??
Gross pay - nm
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I'd go with gross.
You'll spend more time doing the math unless you use a line counting program.  JMO.  Stick with the 12 cpl and don't short yourself.  You may have some horrible dictators as well unless you already know how they dictate.  The 12 cpl gross will make for that. 
that's gross!
I had one of those once and what was also nasty was that he passed gas...a long trail...while urinating. He too stopped to talk to people. Maybe this is why doctor's are taught to wash their hands before each patient.
gross vs 65
Gross much better - anything typed on a line.
Gross or 65 cpl
I charge 12 to 12.5 gross lines but I pick up and deliver, print, etc. 
this might be gross but...
i like to do a Google image search for many of the diseases from dictations i do. i find all of this terribly fascinating and it's kind of cool to be able to not only tell somebody what a particular condition is should they ask, but to be able to describe it to them in a visual sense as well.

i also enjoy working with my medical terminology flashcards when i have any downtime. sometimes my pool would be empty (especially toward the end of the month when all the people who slacked off during the first three weeks were scrambling to get their lines in) so i'd take advantage of that extra time to pay a bill online or throw some laundry in.
Certain people getting raises, certain people not. Guess who is?
Say what you will about unions, the good and the bad. But, one thing they did ensure is a raise, good benefits and that you would have a job in the morning.


Per Gross Line Pay?
Being relatively new to MT, I'm not quite sure what being paid by the gross line is as opposed to being paid by a 65 character line.   Can someone clear me up on this.    Thanks much. 
gross line
I am paid by the gross line whether one word is on it or 10 or 12, the same amount.

If you are paid by 65 character line, you take the characters and divide by 65 or use Sylcount whereas you are can then paid for each keystroke, i.e. capitalization, underline is two characters, etc. YOu have to define what a line is or what a character is.
gross line
Thanks Patti!!
No....only if you are doing gross lines- nm
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gross commercials lol

This actually was a comedy routine about them, remember Balki anyone?  Forgot the show but he was here in the US living with his cousin?


He did a comedy stint about his first nice, sit down dinner in America. He was having his boss & family over and wanted to do it just right, so he went to the grocery. 


"Can you believe what you can find in America,  they already sanitize your napkins, so all you have to do is put silverware on them and your table is set"..But he was having trouble with the spoon rolling off the "Sanitary Napkins".  OMG thought I'd lose it.  Then he added the gourmet jelly...KY jelly "it is what the state of Kentucky is famous for so it must be good"..that was a good but gross stint.


gross line
6 is a good gross line rate when you figure it is equal to at least 8.5 if it were counted at 65 characters, most companies don't want to pay more than 7-8
gross lines
One can do far better in a day when counting gross lines rather than character counted -- especially if very familiar with the accounts (of course, that helps either way :).
11 cpl gross equals what on a 65?
nm
is it scary though? or just gross?
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Sorry, but gross generalization.
I am married to a very well-educated, white collar guy and he does everything for me that you described your blue collar guy does for you and more. While DH is clean and well-groomed, he is far from vain and not at all the stereotype you described. Also, I've seen blue collar men who are disgusting pigs who just want to drink beer and watch TV.

Conclusion: There are both blue and white collar princes and both blue and white collar toads, so please do not generalize. :-)
Gross line
What is a gross line and how is it figured? The contract states 6 cpl for 68 characters. Although, after just speaking with the company, every space, keystroke is counted. Still confused.
Gross line
What is a gross line, and how is it figured?
Gross!! Maybe in the 70s-now the Stones are just 70!
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I saw that it was for gross line but I was getting
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I do gross lines

I go into file, properties, statistics and that gives me my gross count.  Very simple and easy as long as you are using Word, no program to buy.   I am surprised that the company you are working for did not show this to you.  Also gives you characters if you are paid for characters divided by whatever your line is and not gross lines. 


Patti


Gross line
I do gross lines and if they want a smaller font, I change it back to Courier or Arial 12 and count that way.  I have been lucky as just raised my rates 0.005 to 11.0 but have not raised in the past 4 years.  I do do pick up and delivery as they are still on tapes and told them that with the gas I had to do it.   They had no problem as I am still one of the lowest here in the Portland area.  And, they have been with me from 6 to 18 years my accounts.  But I still go on what I can do in an hour and since I have been doing these docs so long I can make anywhere from 30 to 50 dollars an hour and I think that is a fair rate for me.   I still believe the only ones getting rich in this medical mess is the insurance companies and that was in the news this last week.  Their big profits.  Anyway go with gross line, I still quote it as 65 characters per line which it is but I count by gross and 12 font.    Patti
Gross line

I bill for gross line which means each line counts whether there are 10 words or one word each line counts.  So when I type in a smaller font, there are less lines than in Courier.  I do not take the characters and divide by 65.   Hope that makes sense.  So the smaller font, the less lines.  So when I contract with a client I tell them that my price per cpl it is a 65 character line in Courier font.  If they chose to use Ariel 10, I will type in that for them but the line count is done in Courier or at least Ariel 10. 


 


a GROSS error???????
come on. I do not think I would want to work for you!!!!!! **said jokingly**

To me a gross error is something that changes the meaning of something. You didn't get that the MT was from California when he/she put "Ca" instead of CA????? Sheesh......give 'em a break.

This is a style error not a GROSS ERROR. Maybe you should put this in your advertisement "Please use AAMT BOS guidelines when filling out application and submitting employment letter". ROFLOL!!!!!!

Seriously though, I think if the MT has a good resume and performs well on the exam that he/she should be given a chance. Be clear that you expect proper style guidelines utilized. If they still want to do things their way (from the 1950s, LOL) then put them in your delete box :-)
Just a thought.

Have a good day!

gross line - IC -- nm
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gross line
Hi, a gross line is a line that is counted if there is even only one character in it, as opposed to the usual line count of having to have 65 characters in it. so, for instance if you have a line that says *1.* and that is all, it is ocunted as a whole line.
sounded gross at first to me, but
This doesn't sound very appetizing to me, but I do love the McDonald's McGriddles. It's like having the bacon or sausage between your pancakes. So very good!
Gross line - What does this mean?
What is the difference between regular cents per line and gross line pay? For instance, if a company pays 8 cents per line, what would this be for gross line pay?? Thanks for any information.
yep, it was more like 55K gross, 20K taxable.

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Anybody charge 12 cpl gross?
12 cpl gross based on Courier 12? Is that too high these days? I just sent my first bill to a customer at this rate and they freaked. They offered nothing but praise about my service up until this point. I was upfront about the rate when we negotiated the agreement and they signed a contract, but now they are balking, and I'm worried. :(
gross line here

One account that I inherited told me to count from top to bottom, gross lines and just use microsoft word lines.  Their margins are 1" for chart notes and -- I did not do this they requested, letters/consults 1.45 as it lines up with their letter head.  Count blank lines, etc., was told to do it this way.   But then again I charge .115 per line and type in Times Roman 12.  Again, I figure out how much per hour I make and try to keep my cpl in line with that.   Another account wants chart notes in Arial 10 and I told them when I bid my cpl is for Courier 12 and so I change the file back to Courier 12 when I do my line count for them.  But I do all in gross lines, one word or 10 words all the same price for the line.   I do print and supply all paper except for letter head, pick up and deliver which is all included in my price.  But I make good money and again look at my hourly rate and my monthly receivables to see if it works for me. 


Patti