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I see mostly celebs getting children from

Posted By: TM on 2006-08-29
In Reply to: Why so expensive? - sm

overseas...that's why they are able to get newborns so easily. A friend of the family recently adopted a baby from overseas. It cost them some money, but they had no problems. Newborns are the most sought after. Unfortunately, it is the older children who are suffering more and need homes. Maybe you should try and find a place for an older child in your home if you want to adopt so badly. Giving up on adoption is giving up on a child, if that is truly something you want to do.


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So I don't care for my children because I
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I was trying to be nice. Even to children like you

I was only asking an honest question.


I didn't realize there were children posting on this board.


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I believe it is important for children too..
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Sorry, that should be heard Jen did not want children yet. nm
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Maybe our children go to the same college.   


 


I will start


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Can I Trade Children - LOL
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I homeschool my children and I get so very

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Kids don't have much time to socialize in the public school setting and the socialization isn't always positive. 


Another consideration with children....
I mostly agree with you. I think one has to also consider one's own working habits along with the child's personality. Some kids just require more attention than others and I think they suffer if they don't get it, and one can't work and actively mother at the same time. In my case, I get focused and react irritably when drawn off task; it's okay now when I can post a sign up that I'm busy and on deadline, but it wasn't fair to them when they were small, and so they were in daycare at least part of the time as second shift was not an option for me. Also, my youngest was much more independent than my oldest and needed less one-on-one interaction (so long as he had those tinkertoys around!).

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Children's hospitals!
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I raised my children being an

having had their mom home. They are grown now and have their own children. I still work at home as an MT and am able to watch my granddaughter. She does not go to daycare, she goes to grandma's and says she is so much happier here.


sorry I don't agree about the children..sm

I, for one, am a product of said *scared into submission* and also *heavily physically abused* by the same parent who was into this *scared into submission*...


After 20 years of therapy from 8-28 - and dumping that parent who had no remorse....I'm fine.  I also raised a very well-behaved 27 year old child who NEVER HAD TO BE SCARED INTO SUBMISSION.  That's not to say I didn't whack once in awhile.......but I never abused anything or anybody in this life....except maybe myself in my 20s.


Now I'm in my 50s and I learned from every bad thing in life that happens to you, something good comes out of that. 


Scared into submission may be fine for animals (but I really doubt it since I have animals and I have never scared them into submission and they, too, are well behaved because I hold them accountable, just like the children - holding someone accountable is not scaring them into submission).


Find a better way regarding the children...........


Yes, have both grandchildren and children and get this,
I worked full time when children were little- and get this again- I had to work in a hospital, not from home. You do what you HAVE to do- I did not retire, could not have then and like I said, not an emergency type situation. Deployment does not mean you stop working and then go to the poor house.
gentian violet? now they're saying not to use it on children.
not sure if it is gential violet you're thinking about.  I think I used it my kids when they were little, but now they're saying not to use it on kids... I'm old I guess. :)
It's not a parent's job to entertain their children 24/7.
Back in the olden days, parents AND children did chores from morning until night.  They didn't play, go to the movies, own electronics or do ANYTHING fun.  Chores, chores, chores all day long.  The kids worked right alongside their parents.  Church on Sunday.  They didn't have neighborhood kids parading through the house without an invitation.  They might have gone on an occasional picnic or square dance, but that's it.  Children aren't supposed to be in charge.  Parents aren't supposed to entertain their children 24/7 and give in to their every whim.  At least her kids are having fun instead of being left home ALONE with a list of chores to do while Ma and Pa go to town for supplies.
Dano -- The children on this board do not like
anyone who is well spoken, calm, productive, insightful, etc.

There are some true adults on here who DO enjoy meaningful conversation. Most, however, fail to reach mature conversation.

I think they're jealous. Hahahaha Now THAT is going to get flames started. Hahahaha

I feel sory for your children.
And obviously either you give no care at all for them or you are NOT able to do both..it is apparent that it is one of the 2.
I've 2 children and live in TN. LOL
I can see that it bothers you very much for anyone to be anything less than employee, but frankly it is a CHOICE for us!! We do it for a reason!!!

You sound very much like a recuiter! LOL

Thank you for your advice but I've been there and done that and I will not go back. Thanks though! Just don't worry - we all have options in case we change our minds!!!

get rid of any man who calls your children names!

Let alone call you names in front of them.  He sounds like a true control freak and slob to boot.  Your 16yo needs to NOT be exposed to this kind of behavior from a man...she'll end up getting into relationships thinking this is "the way I grew up" mode.


Keep your faith and get out and into living your own life for you and your own children.


Guess you NEVER advise your children, do you?
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You don't owe your children a college education at all.
My personal advice to my own children was/is this: As long as you want to invest your effort and energy, I will help you past high school in getting an education.

If you stay home while you attend and keep good grades, I will provide your transportation, you can live here rent-free, eat here, and we will work together to make sure you have all your college expenses paid for and have some pocket money.

If you choose to live out, as long as I see you are keeping your grades, I will give you a limited set amount of financial aid.

However, if you feel I owe it to you or you fail to respect my effort to assist you, then you are on your own.

I also tied their inheritance to their achievements. The more they do for themselves and the higher the education, the greater the percentage of their inheritance. If they felt it wasn't necessary to prepare themselves now, don't count on my estate assisting them later.

It is hard to let them make these mistakes sometimes but the more painful it is for them, the quicker they learn. Doesn't take but touching the hot stove once for a kid to realize I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN!!
Hmmm. If the students are children,
maybe pretending they're naked isn't such a good idea. Telling anyone that you pretend they're naked is a really bad idea.
If only people were as passionate about children
Then maybe the child abuse rate wouldn't be so danged high! Really, is there much difference in what's going on over there and what's going on here with the abortion rate? And the abuse of innocent children...come on, get your priorities in order will ya!
Children understand what they are taught!
Kids are capable of understanding social situations like this, even at young ages.Adults need to give them more credit. Personally, from listening to the story, sounds like lots of families I know with 5 kids or more. They can get the attitude of entitlement someone else mentioned - their parents are always getting aid from the govt, or town, or churches, and so the kids naturally adopt the attitude of the parents - that they are entitled to everyone's stuff just because...I always go over the normal "rules" with my kids before they go over someone's house - say thank you to the mom, don't ask for anything to eat, be polite, etc. If they are going over and it includes eating, like invited for lunch, I give them the look before they leave and make them promise to at least attempt to eat something even if they don't like it, and to NEVER say they didn't like anything! Guess I'm teaching them to be wimps, huh?!