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ICs -- are you being treated like employees? (sm)

Posted By: adh on 2006-05-23
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I filed IRS form SS-8, and boy did I get results!!

It took months. I had to fill out the very detailed form describing my work situation. The IRS then notified the MTSO and had them fill out the form. I just received the ruling that I was in fact an employee, so the MTSO now has to pay back taxes and penalties!!

It feels so good when something works the way it should, doesn't it?



LINK/URL: IRS Form FSS-8


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in working in that environment, Burger King. It's shameful for the level of difficulty this job is, that the pay is this lousy and the treatment by supervisors/management is disrespectful and horrendous.
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I wish we all had an answer.....


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Wow, that's really awkward that you are being treated
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You have to be psychic to be treated.

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How many jobs do we take until we might be treated decent


I am on my third in a year


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It's just one more reason why MTs are treated like dirt. (nm)
:/
i've been very well treated by my state's
BC/BS -- and have had several expensive accidents...but maybe it depends on your state too.
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They decided to go to EMR, which is their choice.  It sounds as if you financially made out extremely well (very, very well) doing their transcription. How about charging a nominal fee to assist them in setting this up? In the end how do you know that the EMR will work out for them, and 3 or 4 months later they decide to go back to using a MT? It sounds like you made out like a bandit doing their work, and for what it's worth I would be quite reasonable fee-wise with this one in the hope that they may retain your services in the future. I don't think that you are going to run into too many gravy situations making $100.00 dollars an hour doing MT, and acyually they are not treating you dirty by deciding to try EMR.
You LET self be treated bad. Hard to feel sorry
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treated badly and pentalized
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I concur....MTs are treated with respect at MDI-MD....
Best MTSO out there, in my opinion.
He was my least favorite on that show and after how he treated Brenda,
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but the doctor told me it is the position of where the back of my thigh rests against the edge of the chair, puts pressure on it and makes the leg swell. Now that I'm more aware of this I try to position myself differently and it seems to work.
I don't understand your question at all. She was being treated in Mexico
so what does that have to say about the US? Makes no sense.
not true. Crux is, she is being treated differently than others

Tell that to my friend. They had a dog they treated as a member of their family. That is, until it a
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We cannot generalize by culture because it is the world we live in.  To the Amish community I am sure they receive "normal treatment." 


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Oh really? That's why it's a fact that Zarqawi was treated in Baghdad for injuries.
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It is gratifying to see an MT who refuses to be treated as a second class employee. Way to go!!
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I would be proud if my records, with my name erased, could be used to help an MT be treated fairly.
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Coretta Scott King died in Mexico, while being treated. ---what does that say about

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and no offense but all newbies because anyone with a brain and has a pulse runs, and runs fast.
So what does this mean for HIS employees and how do you know this? sm
How did you get this information?  Is everything finalized and signed between Spheris and Heartland?  What happens to those of us who work at Heartland?  What's this mean to us?
What about all of the employees out there
who adhere to a regular committed work schedule only to find there is no work available for them?? Sandy--what about all of the people who are forced to work later and later (beyond their committed shift schedule) just to find work?? We ARE paid by production. It sounds like you are the princess in this scenario. You're speaking to a lot of experienced loyal MTs out there who KNOW that working from home is their only option because of all of the outsourcing over the last 10 years especially. It works both ways. I would think a Transcriptionist looking for work would find you a bit on the pristine side. All of us MTs want is just to work. I just left a national company because there was NO WORK for over a month. At least 30-40 other MTs left this company and went to a smaller company because of the work readily available to them. Take it down a notch, Sandy.
Only to employees
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New employees on it?
I've only had that happen when new employees aren't following the account specs...and sometimes when it first does a new "upgrade" on the docs.
They don't have any employees, just ICs...sm
And I have been on that account longer than any other transcriptionists there. Usually they said what they do is take the jobs that come in on that account and divide them between the MTs. So I don't know. These docs have a bad habit of not dictating daily. Sometimes they will wait till they absolutely have to dictate and then BAM hit you with a load.
Nope, I don't feel "LUCKY" to be treated like an imbicile by my company. Nope, No way.
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Statutory employees too?
Is the new pay plan for statutory/IC employees too?  Cant you only switch to full time employee status twice a year, I think May and October or November.
statutory employees - MQ
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Do any Med-Quist employees
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Go for it. HR needs to know if their employees are being "threatened". (sm)

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Hope things are better today for you all.


 


 


How do you MQ employees manage
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The prison's employees
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For any Transcend employees (not ICs)..
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They have to be using overseas employees...sm
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I wonder if it applies to ICs or only employees?
I make a whole $9 -$14 an hour depending on the work, sometimes less of course when I get someone really bad.
They rotate employees so that no one
She should have reported those who were not doing very well.

The more times you use them, the lower their rates. I used to have MM come in 3 days a week and it was more than reasonable. Each time they came, one room received a deep cleaning. I loved them.

They are bonded, licensed, and insured. They provided ALL of their own cleaning supplies, didn't use mine. If they were injured in my home, they paid their own medical bills. If something was broken or stolen, MM reimbursed it.

Your friend's private keeper probably has none of that. If the keeper falls on a wet floor, etc., she will have to pay for her keeper's medical bills. If anything gets broken or stolen, she will have to file it on her homeowners.

Plus, with MM, you just write that check out and they pay all the taxes.

Your friend's private keeper probably isn't having any of the income appropriately reported and both the keeper and your friend could be in trouble.

LOL
Yes you can deduct it. Employees get

the same deductions many ICs do particularly since so many companies do not pay for large office space any longer, power, etc.  If you have any question at all about how to do it, ask your accountant but Turbo Tax walked me through it last year and this year too.  It used to be that they did not ask, but now they do and you can deduct your office based on the size of it and the mortgage etc. 


What many offices used to have now belongs to us that work at home and yes, we get that benefit because the offices definitely cannot legally deduct for this. Some companies reimburse for your internet.  Oh whoopie.  Less are providing equipment.  So now we do get to do a whole lot as employees because the costs of these necessities for work have been placed on us by cheap employers who try to get by with as little expense as possible.


 


Are you hiring employees or
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that's correct, MQ's BOS is for MQ employees
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Any statutory employees out there?
I'll be starting a new job soon with a service as a statutory employee. I want to get on top of my tax situation now so that come April I won't get hit with a big bill from the tax man.

Any suggestions/guidelines for how much of each of my checks I should be setting aside for taxes? I know that my employer will be paying 1/2 of my Social Security taxes. What about the rest?

Thanks in advance for your help.
then you need to hire employees ... sm
If you need someone to adhere to a strict schedule then you need to hire employees and pay their SS.  I am finding that more and more employers want the best of both world.  They want to pay like an IC and treat like an employee.  Why MTs are putting up with this is beyond me.  If they report the "employers" to the IRS they can be held liable for back taxes.