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In the past, on a typewriter, Courier 10 meant

Posted By: 10 characters per inch and 12 meant on 2005-08-31
In Reply to: 10 is smaller not larger than 12, so it would be more than 65 cpl- nm - xx

12 characters per inch.  Is it not the same for word processing programs?


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Yea but that was on an typewriter

That was on a typewriter and you were lucky if you could get 60 lines per hour    and when you made a mistake in a letter you had to rip it out and start over or if the doctor changed his mind and no count of the previous lines.  With the computer came the capability of macro's, auto text, etc. and our lines per hour jumped to 300 per hour.  You have to compare all the facts.  That is why I count more of what I make per hour than what I make per cpl.  If I make my $$ per hour that I want, I keep my cpl the same.  Just me.  Have done it both ways and to me am happy with my cpl now versus what it was when I was doing it on a selectric.


 


yes typewriter
My terminology came from nursing school and then from experience. I don't believe there were MT schools back then.
10-point Courier .....nm
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I charge 12 CPL w/Courier 10.....sm
nobody has balked here yet in 10 years *L* - well I had one but I dumped her several years ago......I don't need the whiners/moaners.....Florida
Yeah, some days I do too, until I remember the typewriter.
Then I quit cussing my computer! lol
I worked with typewriter and carbon paper, too, but
No way would I work that way on production pay. That would be like paycheck suicide. There are far too many jobs out there with the proper tools to work anywhere with that antiquated of a system. Sorry, not spoiled, just wise. Since line rates are on the decline, you have to learn how to work smarter in this business so you can maximize your line counts per hour, thereby maximizing your income per hour. Otherwise, you'll just eek by.

And I get it that it CAN be done, but I don't get why anyone would WANT to do it if it's production pay. Hourly, maybe, but production, heck no. Not when I can work somewhere else using all the production tools and making a lot more money.
Word can't do this, but you can download typewriter sounds. sm
You'll get lots of hits if you Google "typewriter sounds."
Not every company converts to Courier 12 to pay you. sm
Some companies pay you for whatever font you are working in and in this case it is Courier 10, which is the smaller font. Some companies have a definition of a line, meaning a line is no more than 65 or 72 characters, etc.

Hope this helps too!
Courier 10 but I had MD who wanted ariel 11

Ariel 11 is in their favor - not ours as MTs, many more characters fit onto one line of type with that one.  Accepted standard for years in most communities I do believe used to be Courier 10; perhaps that has changed through the years.  My MDs don't care what font I use. 


By the way, I didn't have ariel 11 available for this female MD (was on WP5.1 at the time) and did her account for a year and then dumped her - she was too rude (heard she goes through a new MT every single year) and had insisted that I credit her 5 lines per report for the entire year.  After I did the math, I lost $1000 that year.  Not in this biz to lose $$.  So, I gave her a couple of options which she was not happy with and then we mutually pulled the account.  If they go through a new MT per year - the problem belongs to them, not me/us  *grin*


 



Count lines in courier 12 - nm

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Courier font in WP11-its not there
My Wordperfect 11 does not have the Courier font.  It has Courier New but I need just Courier.  Where can I get this font?      Thanks
The old clunkity clunk electric typewriter days

Way back when, I didn't even know it was "transcription."  I did some transcribing as a secretary at a clinic with 8-10 docs. Office manager showed me how to use "a tape player that you operate with a footpedal." (never heard the words "transcriber" or "transcription"). Only had a Dorland's Med. Dictionary and IBM Selectric. Wasn't until several years later at first actual medical transcription job, realized previously had already been doing medical transcription, "typing" the doctors' chart notes and letters (plus answering phones, sorting/distributing the doctors' mail & journals, bookkeeping/accounts payable, payroll, etc.) for ridiculously low file-clerk type pay for what was really an administrative assistant type job. 


You wanted a laugh though: One time, in a hospital transcription dept., me & the other ladies were in the breakroom, giggling about something in the newspaper, someone made a great joke about whatever the subject was, & we were laughing so hard, the security guard came running down the hall and into our breakroom to see what was going on (he thought he heard screaming!)  When he saw us all cracking up, he just shook his head, laughed, & told us to get back to work!


Correct me if I'm wrong but I think courier 12 gives 65 characters

is less characters since it's larger.  So you probably have a 60-character line instead of 65.  You are probably making more money this way.  Plus a gross line usually pays if there is anything on a line...not just 65 characters.  Each line is counted separately so if it ends with one word, you get paid for a line.


When I was taken from a gross line count to 65 characters, I estimated a 15% reduction in lines.  That's just a guess.


Courier 10 in Word is a 72 character line.
I was offered a position for the same as you mentioned and declined. I found a position that pays 10 cents a gross line with Courier 12, 65 character line.

You do need to remember, a line is a line when paid by gross line. So, if you initials are the only characters on a line, you are paid for that full line.

Typing class was based on the old courier font (sm)
that all typewriters pre-computer used. Some typing instructors may still be doing the traditional stuff they were taught, which was not based on computer use.

AAMT didn't set this as a rule. It's common, due to the fact that the spacing of type on a computer is proportional. So one space after a period looks fine and is readable compared to the two spaces that were necessary before computers.
ROFL - Manual typewriter and belt back in 1973! Old geezard here :)
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Started in-house at a hospital, medical records department, on a typewriter in
1983, earning $6.00/hour, eventually moving up after 7 years to $10.00/hour. All hospital work was then outsourced to a national service in 1986 (beginning of our downfall), went to work for the service and made $2.10/page. Service was bought out by another service, rate changed to $1.90/page. Rates changed again to $0.08/cpl. After many years of experience in all services, found my first account in 1992, charged $.09/cpl/gross lines but blank lines not counted. Business has grown steadily through the years through word of mouth. Now charging $.16/cpl or $25.00/hour or $6.00/page, and having to turn down work at this point. If you have the experience and are detail-oriented, you can find your own accounts eventually like I did. But you have to pay your dues first and be able to transcribe all ESLs accurately. If you learn how to transcribe ESLs well, those doctors are the ones to target for work. I do work an ungodly number of hours, only because I am trying to save at a faster pace for retirement because of all the uncertainty in this line of work.
But why sign it to put the past behind? The past should have

It seems that they dredged up the past by wanting the release signed to keep them out of trouble for unfair employment practices.  Usually when a person ends the working relationship, they give formal written notice, the company accepts the notice, and the employment is over.  Smells pretty fishy to send a termination agreement and, oh by the way, sign this release.  LOL


Sorry, 'MT way too long,' my post was not meant for you, it was meant for Wow! Sorry!!...nm
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It is an okay deal - TR 11 font is small. Not as good a deal as Courier.
Personally, I would have to think really hard and compare reports and line counts, like the other poster below suggested, before I would jump right into it. It is probably 75-80 characters to a line +/- the single character lines you get for initials, and 2 word lines you get with op reports such as Surgeon:
IV Fluids:
Anesthesia:
etc.

It probably is comparable to 9 cpl with a larger font.

Good luck in whatever you decide.


Good Luck!
Have gotten as much as $3,000 in the past.

The hospital I worked for for 28 years (as a medical lab technologist) always gave us a Christmas bonus. This ranged from $3,000 one year in the 80s down to an orange (yeah, a piece of fruit) and a calendar a few years later. It usually averaged, though, around $200 or so. It always depended on the hospital profit for that year.  


The clinic I work for now gives us $100 and a really fancy dinner-dance party (that I don't ever attend).


I have used it in the past
I had it before I got DSL.  Never had any problems at all. Lots of local numbers to call into.  Never really had problems getting bumped off.  Never had problems with busy signals.   Just was really slooowww  (as is any dial up).  I paid a few dollars more a month for the "accelerated" version.  It was supposed to be faster, but I didn't notice any difference.    I would definitely recommend it as far as dial up goes, though.   
I have done this in the past and have just taken another
full time position with another company.  If you are motivated enough, then go for it.  The only advice I can offer is if they are both full time jobs with full time line requirements not hours, when the first full time job picks back up, are you going to be able to do both jobs full time?  That is the only problem I had but I was able to do it just fine. 
his past was his past........if you...sm

If you have never learned in life that yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a *gift*, that's why we call it present...and to forgive what was years ago and condemn him in his 60s and continually name-call him, such as *perv* - you apparently have the personality disorder.


Everyone is entitled to their opinion, just as I am.....so like I said - go into the mirror.......and become introspective before you name-call....


oh, and your history is 100% perfect?  Oh, I get it - you have no faults from the past or prefer to point out everyone else's faults or past. 


'tis all in the attitude.......


My past
Hope my "name" doesn't bother anyone, but I just couldn't help but post.

I can relate to how you are feeling about your friend. I suffered from secondary infertility (I had a child but when she turned 2 I started trying to have another and couldn't). I found a web site where I could post and formed many friendships. Most were women who had NO children. My heart went out to them.

The web site is
www.INCIID.org if your friend wants to check it out. I have formed lifelong friendships with several I met on there.

End of my story is that after 9 years of fertility treatments (torture!!!) and 2 miscarriages along the way (worse than torture!!!!) I finally went the In Vitro Fertilization (IVF) route and got my twins. My family is now complete. It was a very long, hard haul though. So anyone considering fertility treatmens should keep that in mind. Emotionally and financially. To consider taking out a loan for $15,000 for a one-shot deal at IVF was excruciating. Especially after my doc only gave me a 10% chance of it working.

Sorry, I didn't mean to write a book. I just want to be a source of hope for someone who is going through infertiltiy and miscarriage. It has scarred me, that's true, but these babies make up for the pain of those years. Wishing your friend the best!
I have in the past. I have to
change the covers frequently. If you run out, just rig covers made from clean, soft, thin cloth or Kleenex. I wrap the tissue around it, cut off excess, and secure with small rubber bands. Aaaaaah!

Lots of MTs have ear problems. After showers, dry out ears with an astringent on a Q-Tip, being very gentle. You can even hold 2 Q-tips together to make them too large to accidently jab too deep. Dry out excess astringent with dry ends of Q-tip and don't put on headphones until air-dried completely. If skin is oily, you can use wipe the entire ear and behind with witchhazel to normalize the ear skin and avoid irritation. I can even use alcohol or 2% salicylic acid on my ears. Feels great to oily skin.
I have seen this in the past also
I did training for the small service I worked for, and have worked with new grads all the way up to 20+ years' experience and had a very different focus training each. The older MTs (exp. not age) who had received no QA did have trouble adjusting sometimes; some were more demoralized by it, no matter how kindly it was delivered, and some would get angry and say things like "I've always done it this way and no one has complained." And some had difficulty with the computer programs we used, more so than the newer MTs. I would think that latter problem would be even more pronounced now with all the fancy software out there.

So I think I get she's saying, but on the other hand, I don't think it was too smart or tactful for her to say it and be quoted for it! I've always thought you need a mix of MTs for a healthy environment, newer and "older"!
How do get past the
frustration of KNOWING QA changes are incorrect?  Working at Chronicle I had one good QA person I was dealing with and would send me what they call a comparison report.  Then when I typed on a different shift and asked for a finished report I noted that many of the blanks I had left were still there BUT there were also things changed that I KNOW were incorrect?  As an MT, are we within our rights to question QA changes and also the experience level of the QA?  Viewing the particular changes made in my instance, there is no way this QA person carried any kind of experience. 
There have been some things with others in the past

In fact, he's estranged from both of his children, one son and one daughter, they actually hate him and have written nasty letters.  The daughter is completely insane, does drugs, married about four or five times, a thief, but nothing has been brought up about any sort of abuse.  His other daughter and I have talked.  She said that her mother growing up was very suspicious of her and her father's relationship.  Actually accused her of leading him on, or teasing him, and something happened where she caught her naked and him in the same room and got mad at her.  The daughter swears nothing was going on, but who knows, we didn't know him back then.  So it ruined her relationship with her mother. 


He has my family fooled that he's this great wonderful guy, yet his own family wants nothing to do with him.  Thats why bad mouthing him, I would be ostracized.  They all know he's slightly perverted, but its accepted.  Thats why i'm wondering if i'm blowing it out of proportion.  All I know is that its changed and i'm extremely uncomfortable.  Being too specific about what he's said is too embarrassing to even mention to them. I don't even want to make eye contact with him. 


that's a blast from the past

I remember that term from years ago.  


I did a Google search and the closest I got was a Maxwell Sweetheart retractor: http://www.snowdenpencer.com/snowden/dspcatalog.nsf/b7e010000d3e8e708525666e004dfec2/0174ad87011670c085256673005b0e34?OpenDocument


If you read the first paragraph, it's referring to the shape of the blade ... so my guess is if you can have a heart-shaped blade with a retractor, why not with the tenaculum.


She has been referred in the past - sm
by social services, that's where they hooked up with her current psychologist.

It's a rural area, not much to offer, so they are looking further away from home now to find the right person/people for counseling.

Should also mention that SS dropped the ball on more than one occasion when it comes to Tater and her younger brother (different father.) Tater's mom has also relinquished custody of the baby brother in the past couple of months. Just handed him over without so much as a "how ya doin" to the boy's father, who is also the same guy that she had tossed in jail for domestic abuse and has a standing no contact order against. Some mother.
I never had any problem in the past..nm
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living it for the past 2.5 yrs---
my ex quite working a legal job so he doesn't have to pay support.  my 3 yo son was able to get insurance through the state but it was very hard to get (and didn't keep it) they don't cover that much. the state keeps rewriting the laws and cut benefits each time.  I'm an ic and have my own health ins for my son and myself. I'm robbing peter to pay paul right now and probably will be for a long time.  we're doing without a lot of things so that I don't have to take a job outside of the house not to mention that I couldn't afford full time child care.   I would try getting extra side jobs so that you could stay home.   I worked 3 jobs for 2 years and went down to one job that promised full time work a couple of months ago and needless to say they haven't kept up their end of the deal-as usual-so I'm looking to pick up at least 1 other job.  the peace of mind knowing that I'm here and flexible, especially if my son gets sick, isn't worth trading right now.
did in the past but does not do drugs...sm
I wish he'd come in here and sue your arse...for that post
Felony in Past
I've just completed an MT course and am now looking to get hired.  I have been turned down by a couple of companies because I have a felony in my past from 1995.  Can someone who has a felony every get hired to be an MT or have I wasted my money and time?  If it is possible to get hired, any ideas on which companies I should try.  Thanks in advance for anyone's help.
felony in past
 A lot of people in the medical field are very self-righteous and judgemental as well as hypocritical.  Apparently this is not a field to go into unless you're perfection like they think they are.  Sorry if this upsets some people on this board. 
felony in past
i am inclined not to think that "Anon" and "anon2" are the same person. i have reread both, and the two have very different styles. i think "anon2" is just commenting on "Anon's" reply posts, but that is just mho. incidently, i did not take anything amiss in the posts. i thought several of them were quite compassionate.
That is how I have been doing it for the past 2 years -sm
My husband has 2 exemptions, but Married as single, so it is taxed at a higher amount. Covers my taxes (so far) and we still get about $1400 back. I plan to pay some taxes though this year via the electronic Federal site. Have not started yet though as finances are tight at the moment but plan to get on the stick by June with any luck and pay in a couple thousand.
Sorry, I can't get past the teeth..... : > lol
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passed/past
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Yes, here too, for about the past 2 hours..nm
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Unions are a way of the past

My ex was and is still in a union as a truck driver but they are slowly being phased out and it will be that way everywhere.   That industry was hit prior to us with more or less outsourcing when the Fair Trade act or whatever it is called  opened up with Mexico and Central America.  You do not see many English speaking truckers anymore and their income went from 70 to 75K per year down to $35 to $40 and so we are not the only ones that hit by more or less outsourcing.  And now the place where he works, has a union and  non union company and at each terminal when the union contract comes up for renewal, the non union side bids lower and it goes that way.   He is in the last terminal that is union and I doubt it will be that way when their contract expires in two years.   So unions are on way out. 


 


But if I can get past the misspelling,
I have found 2 exceptional items that I bought. Some end tables, glass with bronze bases, 10$ each, very steady, cannot get that in a store at that price and the other day bought Persian rug, supposedly 8 1/2 x 11 with blue background that exactly matches the color in my workroom. I am so excited, seems like it made the room bigger. Happy camper. Just grit my teeth and keep looking. Saw listing for an chair and attaman 1 day and sent them note saying, what is that??
I have kept 1 for the past 4 years but have - sm
moved about a bit trying to find a good FT gig. Have worked for 3 other companies in 5 years trying to find a good fit, no set schedule, good accounts and pay. So far no luck. I do like my PT job now, do about 6000 lines every 2 weeks but would love to find what a few others have, a good account, easy lines and good pay, but those are few are far between I think. I cannot work a set schedule as I have way too much going on, so it makes it harder to acheive nirvana.
New MTs a Thing of the Past?
Interesting perspective and comments!  I agree with some, notably about VR.  I remember when I started, asking about if VR would replace me some day, and then the answer was "not in your lifetime." Ha!  I have lost accounts to VR.  I am still an MT, and things are constantly changing, you are right.  Thanks for your comments!
she states below that she did try in the past sm
to bring on another IC but they were resistant to the idea.

She has already tried doing what you suggest, to no avail.

I have been in this situation as well, and while it is very true that we are, in essence, vendors to our clients, there are offices that are truly difficult to work with.

It is a good idea to consider taking an employee position in this case, I agree, but please know that she's already tried addressing the issue in the way you suggest. :-)
Probably so. And my current one. And past one, too.
They might as well - they don't seem to have anything more productive with the time they spend in their plush offices behind closed doors. Unless maybe it's napping.
this past year
ok i feel dumb but if he dictates "in March of this past  year" what year is that?
2 to 5 cpl judging from past ads, with 3-4 cpl
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Have you given them feedback at all during the past
five years? I find it hard to believe that they've worked for you for five years, and it's only now that you don't find their work acceptable. Yes, it is unethical to cut their line rate or switch to a per page rate UNLESS you have already spoken to them about quality issues. Cut their line rate and hire a QA person. Tie their per line rate to their error rate, but be consistent and accurate in your own grammar and typing. Or cut their hours and hire somebody else.

As for not having the time to hire and train somebody new, a decent MT should need minimal training. I was on QA for maybe six reports at my most recent job. Stop making excuses and post an ad for a new transcriptionist. See the job seekers board link on the left side of your screen? In the time it has taken you to vent about these unacceptable MTs, you could have posted an ad and received resumes already.