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No, what's sent work overseas is cheap schools that don't teach SM

Posted By: Becky on 2005-12-19
In Reply to: That kind of money is what has sent work overseas, IMO. - nm

properly, churning out hoards of MTs who will undercut the good ones and then turn out terrible work.


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There are schools that teach you the business in about...
6 or 8 weeks, not quite sure.  But the idea of expressing anal glands on the dog just sickens me.  I love dogs, but I couldn't do that nasty little detail.  no way, no how.
ProScript Documentation Services does not send work overseas or employ any overseas MTs. (nm)

yes, when all that overseas work comes back
after it becomes illegal to outsource work with our personal information.  I am hoping that day comes soon.
Is it possible some of the account work is going overseas. MQ does offshore you know.
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That kind of money is what has sent work overseas, IMO.
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No, corporate greed is what sends work overseas.
The only reason offshoring is alive is because our fellow Americans are too cheap to pay a living wage. They want their companies to show a greater profit and stock to go up.

I am an excellent MT. However, I can't make squat for money in this field because every single company I get on with sticks me with their lousiest accounts. I've learned seven new accounts in the past month between a small MTSO and a national. That's how it works. You do your best, QA scores reflect it, and they give you their garbage that nobody else will do.
overseas work (Saudi Arabia, Dubai)

A long long time ago, in a place far away, when I was a CMT, I used to get advertisements contracting for jobs at King Faisal Hospital in Saudi Arabia as well as a hospital in Dubai.  I just wondered if this was still going on.  Maybe they just contracted everything to India (haha).  Does anyone know about this? 


To Administrators: LawScribe, one of your advertises sends all work Overseas! sm

Thought you'd want to know.  I contacted them and was told they do not hire anyone local in the USA, and only hire overseas.  How interesting?  Since you don't support overseas coming and taking our jobs, I thought you'd be interested in knowing this, or maybe you already know?  


 


Have a great day!


I will never work for another company that supports offshoring to overseas countries
As posted above, I have worked for a foreign company.  The company had some US MTs working for them and IMO, they were using us to cover up.  I think we should personally stick together and stop the nonsense of our US reports going overseas.  I do have one question for those who support the Indian companies and any company that offshore overseas...where is your medical information going?  Have you thought for one minute that maybe your own SSN and address, etc, might be going overseas?
It's both the schools and co.'s fault. Schools are trying to kick em' out as soon as they
"graduate" and companies are very willing to hire anyone who says "they went to this school or that." I know. I've been there as a former instructor.

I truly believe that not everyone has what it takes to become a good MT. And I mean good. You absolutely cannot guess on anything - and I would stress this over and over to my students at all times. You have to know how to spell, and you have to have basic, or beyond basic, grammar knowledge.

My classes would normally start out at 15 to 17. And by the end of the first week it would go down to about 10. And then after that I would graduate around 8 or so. I would tell them straightforward that this job entails - the skills you must have to do this work - and I probably did turn a few of them away. But when they had it, and I knew they could do this work (I could usually tell by the first 5 papers they turned in) then I would encourage them over and over. I would call them, meet with them, and tell them to stick it out, and that I thought they had found their "spot" in life....That's what my MT instructor did for me many years ago and I am so grateful for her.

I know these gals and guys want to be at home with their young ones - hey, I do too! But as an editor also, I believe that some are just not cut out for this.

Also, I find acute care a lot less challenging than actual clinic work! I have been editing clinic work here lately and boy have I found that to be challenging. It is very, very specific. If they can do clinic work no problem, then they should train on acute care too.

Just my humble opinion.

Oh, as for VR. No, newbies cannot do that right now. You need people with editing background who know thousands upon thousands of words to edit VR. I don't think schools care about training them for VR - just graduate them with the basic knowledge and get a job doing clinic work! Yeah, if it were that easy!
those who can't do....teach

There is  a HUGE difference between reading what someone else has already deciphered versus being the one who is deciphering it at 140 words per minute.  The bottom line is that we all make mistakes because we are paid on production - not because we are ignorant or guessing or whatever unprofessional nonsense they choose to call it.  As for the comment about not spelling physician names correctly (cities, schools, etc.), we do not get paid by the hour to search for these things - QA people do or they are getting paid for lines they do not type to compensate their time.  There is no cause for unprofessionalism or personal attacks.  I do not appreciate commentary.  I don't appreciate remarks about punctuation, grammar etc. particulary when it comes from someone who doesn't understand what an independent clause is, a complete sentence and so on.  Passing on their infinite wisdom because it is what they "were taught" isn't valid - back it up and I don't mean with the BOS, which basically boils down to someone else's opinion.    I find the QA people contradict themselves left and right, contradict each other, contradict the account manager and most importantly contradict account specifics, and some contradict the doctors themselves.   Very few have come across my path that were friendly, helpful or even knowledgeable.  They just often have misplaced confidence in "understanding" the word no else can...I find it better to err on the side of caution if it is a word of substance; if it is not, move on.  Perhaps, QA should respectfully mentor the newbies, give feedback to MTs who make repeated mistakes and otherwise take a supporting role in helping MTs to produce quality documents, instead of getting into a p1ssing contest. 


How do you teach someone s/m
who has been typing since age 16 to now only put 1 space after a period instead of 2? That's going to take a LONG time to break that habit.
some one should teach them grammar
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I teach classes online.
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What was wrong with trying to teach them when they were young?
I learned to dust, wash dishes, clean my room, etc., when I was about 5 years old, and it was part of our routine. Every week our chores would rotate and as we got old, we learned more. Same thing with cooking. You obviously let this go too long but now is the time to change it, not when you have a nervous breakdown.
We teach people how to treat us - I would not put up with this.
It seems this arrangement no longer works with your schedule. If they say they need the work now and you cannot do that any longer then you need to let them know why. Best of luck to you.
I think it is all about your beliefs and what you teach the kids...sm

We do let our kids trick or treat, as stated before.  However, it is all just for fun (and candy) for them.  I think it is all about what you teach your kids.  I see what you are saying about Christmas, I actually can't stand it when people celebrate Christmas who don't believe in God and Jesus.  But I guess someone could say the same thing about me (for "celebrating"Halloween without "believing" in what it stands for).  I think I am confusing myself!!!  All I think that matters is what YOU believe and what you are teaching your children. 


 


However, now that this subject has come up, I am going to do some more research on Halloween and possibly consider the idea of a "fall harvest party" or something like that.  I do like that idea, so thanks for letting me explore other ideas!!!  I never thought that deeply about getting free candy from the neighbors!!


teach pronunciation in med school?

how in the heck does one become a doctor and pronounce things like:


ex-zeffer (that is, Effexor)


cla-mit-tra-zol (rather clotrimazole)


tur-bun-ins (how about turbinates!!)


makes me crazy...er.


When you teach your child about the Golden
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Teach a newbie to fish
I don't think it helps them. I started looking at the Word Help board after I read a post earlier this evening about the low-level questions newbies are wanting answers for. One was something like "vigomatic...this is somewhere on the head." Are you KIDDING??? I couldn't believe it. I think it would serve this person much better to give him/her some ideas on how to find the answer rather than to just give the answer away. Just giving the answer away is not really helping them learn anything. It's just letting them copy your homework.

What's that saying? Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.

In the earlier discussion I mentioned, someone thought posting on the board (in a virtual situation) was the same thing as asking a teacher for an answer in a classroom situation. Well, I think a great teacher in a classroom situation would do the same thing; i.e., point the student toward the dictionary or the encyclopedia or whatever, not just give away the answer.


I really have to wonder how someone can end up as a working transcriber & not know, or at least have been exposed to, the word "zygomatic" at some point. How did this person get a job? Scary, especially considering how protective we are of our field and how much better at it we think we are than anyone else on the planet.

There are no shortcuts. Every great working Transcriptionist has had to look everything up, has had to go through the unbearable period when getting through one report was like swimming through concrete. Are newbies these days under the impression that there is another way? Because there isn't.


QA should be used to teach and aid in the process of MT'ing sm
Not to pick apart and make the MT feel inadequate. Does it really matter if there is a comma missing....not really. The report still reads the same and is a technical document.

QA should be friendly and helpful, at least that is how I try to be in my QA position. We are in this together not against each other. We have the same purpose....to make sure that patient has the most accurate record possible. We all should work as a team, in my most humble opinion.

Happy Holidays Everyone!
I teach and I make 20.00 per hour. Not that great
but nothing to sneeze at either.  I teach community service classes (medical transcription, anatomy physiology and medical terminology) at a local college.
In our Sunday School class, now we teach!nm
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I would think the school could fire him if he can't effectively teach- sm
and the kids take advantage, etc. It is for his own good as well as everyone else that he can hear. They make hearing aids so small now, vanity is a big price to pay for not being able to hear. I would think though that the school would have good cause to can him though IF he does not try to work to the best of his ability and if hearing aids help him to work better than he needs to do it, no one is going to make fun of him for wearing them (he's a big boy anyway I'm sure he could take what the kids can dish out), I would think he'd have more trouble from the kids without them. Good luck in making him see sense.
I get the no deodorant part - but what did his mother teach him?? (sm)
May be an old wives' tale, but I've always heard that if you never start wearing deodorant, you'll never need it. 
FINALLY got it - Guess you can teach an old dog new tricks! THANKS!!

I DO call you a crook. Do you teach your kids
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teach and guide, start my own school? sm
I guess then they should take the Word Board off if teaching and guiding is a "no no?" Difference between teaching and just telling somebody something they can look up for themselves.

Yeah I am into books! Not too slow if you know what you are doing! Still do 250-300 lph with accuracy which is more than I can say for your post.
I teach literacy classes. Do it. You'll be glad you did.
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It's real. 100%. I used to teach this so email me with any questions. I will give you both the sm
good and the bad about the business. It's all completely real and you can do it from home.
Okay... do they no longer teach proofing your document before you send it?? (sm)
PRINCIPAL DIAGNOSIS(ES): Left food wet gangrene, status post above-knee amputation on.

Actual copy and paste..... I have no words for this at all.
Okay... do they no longer teach proofing your document before you send it??
Maybe some few isolated case...
Partially true, but you're not going to learn what they don't teach you ...
a cheap, crappy school does not teach you all the things you need to learn. And you don't know what you don't know until you try to start working and can't pass any employment tests.
its a tool like macros, you have to teach it to understand you and edit at first the words it does
What I understand is, it helps out if you have body parts that are giving out, but it will not, say.. double your production. 
You teach your 3 y/o daughter abdominal anatomy on the chart in the doc's ofc while waiting...nm
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I am well aware of that - just angry that parents teach their kids to cheat! nm
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Call a local school or program and ask. I was asked if I wanted to teach when I
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UNBELIEVABLE!!! I am speechless. I literally have no words! A $5000 trip to China to teach

them how to steal our jobs?



 


 


best schools
What are the best online schools that will guarantee a job? Are there any under $2000? Thanks.
top 3 schools
I know this has been posted, but doggone if I can find in the archives.  Friend looking into MT training.  What are the top 3 schools?  Thanks Karen
Top 3 MT schools
I just read about this and they are on the www.aamt.org web site--they are:
M-Tec, Andrews & CareerStep.
Some schools
I graduated from M-Tec. I am constantly getting e-mails for job opportunities from them even 2 years later. Andrews is also good and there is a third one that is mentioned here a lot that I always forget the name of. With any of these schools, you should be able to get an entry-level job with a national company. Whether your local doctors/hospitals feel the same way is questionable. My locals weren't impressed with my online education.

Rates: Avg for newbs is 6 to 7 cpl. Take that times 1200 lines for an average wage. Double it for an upper estimate. Even for experienced transcriptionists, it is really topping out at 8-9 cpl max. And this rate will probably continue to go down in the coming years, just as difficulty of the dictation goes up. (The easy stuff really is going to EMR/VR and overseas.

Remember you will probably be an IC so will have to pay all your own taxes and equipment. Just because you are considered an independent contractor, don't expect to be treated like one by a transcription service. Most want you to log in and log out during certain specified hours of the day, and they might not be the best hours for you. Most will expect you work at least 1 weekend day every week as well and probably even holidays (don't expect a higher rate either).
Top 3 schools
I agree with you.  I wished I had known about the top 3 schools.  My husband and I decided to go with a non-accredited school that promised a job.  Well, there were problems in the very beginning.  After 15 months, I quit.  Now, because I did not go to an accredited school, it is very hard to find a job. 
Schools
If you go to either of these schools you will be prepared and you will be able to get a job when you finish:

Andrews
M-Tec.

Otherwise, you're right; getting that first job is a bear.
Schools

I am looking for a school that provides refresher courses for medical transcriptionists who have not worked at this type work for long periods of time.  I do not feel that someone who has done this type work in the past for several years and is still working in a hospital doing administrative or clerical work should need to take a complete course.  Replies will be appreciated.


 


 


Schools
Andrews or M-TEC. I do QA (and graduated from Andrews). I just finished editing a newbie's work who took a different course. Had I done work like that when at Andrews, they never would have let me graduate, let alone have given a recommendation. The work was terrible. Obviously this newbie had not had much in the way of ear training, let alone any basic grammar. I could handle mistakes if it was a matter of simple style issues, i.e., learning specifics for an account, but mistaking "cranial" for "perineal" just did it for me. Sorry for the vent, but if you're going to spend big bucks, make sure you can do the job when you're done. JMHO.
schools
I need help deciding which MT school to use?  I am debating Career Step, Mtecinc and Andrews?  I want to be sure I make the right decision. 
Schools and such...sm
OTJ training seems to be very rare these days, as I found out when researching this field.  A school with an excellent reputation is a must for a newbie wanting to work right away--Andrews School and M-Tec are the top 2 that national employers recognize.  Look around here on the New MT/Student board for some of the questions about those schools.  All I can say is make sure she does her research extremely well before starting on this path; talk to the directors at the above schools; ask a lot of questions--it will save a lot of frustration and money in the end.  Good luck!
Top schools, etc...sm
The top 2 schools that potential national at-home employers will recognize are Andrews School and M-TEC. It was a difficult choice between the 2, but I went with M-TEC. I believe that both have payment plans, and I was able to get a Sallie Mae (SLM) loan for M-TEC. Talk to all the schools that make your short list. They can give you an idea about the job market, their placement rates after graduation, average length of coursework, and any other questions you can think of. Don't be afraid to pester them! :)
Best Schools
If you want solid training with companies standing in line to hire you after completion, then check out Andrews School and M-TEC. Both have a solid, well-rounded education and will open doors to companies that generally require 2 years of experience. There are many good companies and smaller MTSOs who will hire these new grads. You will take your chances going anywhere else. Do your research of all schools to find the right one for you, but in my opinion, you won't find any better than those 2 schools. An expensive school isn't so expensive if you can get a job right away and have the tools necessary to do the job.
Schools
Like you said, the school has a vested interest in telling her a lie. After hearing the truth from you, she must take a considerable amount of the responsibility for her decision to ignore your advise.