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Okay then, should you kill every animal that scares you be it a dog or - sm

Posted By: XXX on 2006-05-21
In Reply to: It's still a SNAKE! - MTTomb

or a cat....does not make sense. They are animals, they just want to be left alone. Some people scare me sometimes, should I go out and shoot them? People need to be a bit more tolerant. I am not a huge fan of snakes either but I will never understand the killing of any animal unless it is for food or if the animal attacks.


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Though I must say the thought of it scares the crap out of me. sm

Both parents are mid-60s now and for the most part quite healthy, though mom has had Parkinson's for a few years, which is thankfully very slow in its progression thus far. My biggest fear is that she progresses to mental decompensation from it.


I think my brother would shoulder as much responsbility as he could along with me for our parents. I'm already thinking about my next house being larger than we need just in case we have to accommodate one or both of our parents later. Neither my bro nor I live particularly close to our parents, either.


It's a daunting thought from all angles.


 


canned air is good but scares the * outta my cats!
We're talking heart attack city for all 3 of them!
Is rad a whole different animal (sm)
when it comes to transcribing it? I would like to expand my specialties, but have never done rad before. Any info would be appreciated! Also, can it be learned just by doing, or would I need more thorough training, i.e.; more schoolin'?
to ANIMAL ADVOCATE
Please note my response to your query waaaay below where the original thread started, again thanks for your interest. 
animal update

i am the OP on thread below re CRUELTY CLARIFICATION and just wanted to say thank you to all who responded .... have not recently come across a such a large, and largely POLITE - WOW!!!!!! -- and informative group in a long time.  this information will stay with me for a long time and i plan to share it with others.  did not know how ignorant i was.  am not by any means a bleeding heart.  it's a tough world and you have to be tough -- but the way we apparently treat these animals in the year 2005 is PATHETIC, just pathetic, and there is simply no need for it. 


to those who say 'but this is a consumer-driven industry," yep you are right, but you know what?  consumers like to be INFORMED.  we don't like to feel that someone or some entity is trying to pull a fast one on us, and i STRONGLY feel that if every child in america -- and the child's uninformed parents and grandparents -- KNEW the real deal, the pressure would be on IMMEDIATELY and things would change in the industry faster than martha stewart's gonna get out of her ankle bracelet.  Before anyone says Yeah but there goes the economy, well i don't think so because if i knew that i could get chix at the store from happy chickens versus what we are 'offered' now, as well as happy cow meat (look at how successful the California dairy industry has been on their little ad campaign, hmmmmm?) vs what we have now, i'd be willing to pay more.  not double, but more!  i think anyone except the poorest of the poor would, too.  and the same government that is subsidizing the cruel farm animal conditions could subsidize the poor for their better quality meat, instead. 


anyway, those are my thoughts.  i really really appreciate all of you smart people telling me something i didn't know, and that's no bull.  great big kudos to all of you who kept the thread polite, too.  'night.


OT: for animal lovers
http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/finnegan.asp
why keep your animal on a chain 24/7

Going off topic from your cat post for a minute... I never understood that..especially with dogs. I think it is cruel for a dog to be chained 24/7 with someone who will rarely walk it.


As far as your cat, we have had outside cats since I was a little girl and they always came back. In fact, I had one (an old "barn cat") that would leave for months at a time lol and come back.


 


Keep your hopes up and don't stop looking!


 


Animal question...sm

I was always under the impression that cats had to be at least 6 months old before they could be "fixed".  I was on the SPCA website for our area last evening reading their info and it said kittens older than 6 weeks must be spade or neutered within 6 weeks of adoption.  Isn't that a little young?


Just curious.


Animal contacts
If you are in need of a veterinary ophthalmologist, it is best to check with your local vet to see if there is one in the area.  Animals do not wear contacts for the obvious reasons.  Instead, they get lens transplants from donor animals that were healthy when euthanized (sad I know).  There are also Doggles sun glasses that dogs wear.
If you are an animal lover - then please don't take Prempro - sm
I worked in a gynecologist's office for 8 years. It was beyond dispicable when the Wyeth drug rep would come in. This was at the time when TV shows were always doing the "hidden camera" things - and of course, the pregnant horses, abuse, catheterizing, etc. This also came at a time when drug reps were no longer allowed to use company money to take docs on trips, expensive dinners, theater tickets, etc. Needless to say, our Wyeth rep made a bundle off of Premarin and Prempro and to make up for all the media hype, she was going to all the gyn docs and sending them on trips, spa packages for their wives, nice dinners, etc. And the docs kept prescribing it.
Agree...no animal has to suffer for me...
I have been using the wild yam - so far, so good. ?
fellow animal lovers/MTs

boycott Iams pet food - they have been charged of horrible animal cruelty in testing their food, see web site below. 


 


www.peta.org/


Call Animal control

well, I am NOT obsessing over animal rights! sm
What exactly are you doing to make the world a better place? Discussing the killing of dogs in another country sure does help, yeah, uh huh...get over yourself
To romey and ANIMAL ADVOCATE...see inside please:

Just copy and paste into your browser (with whatever video player you have)...


Do not get side-tracked with your feeling about peta...


One is narrated by Alec Baldwin.  (I have mixed feelings about peta, but these videos do not lie, and if you research for yourself you realize the government more and more allows this hideous behavior to SAVE money - again, it is all about the money). 


I have watched it once, and half with my eyes closed.  Call me whatever you like, but I sobbed at the cruelty. 


The other is about a (huge) grocery chain we have here in WNY.


A few months ago I became a vegetarian to lose weight...but still ate eggs, cheese, some poultry. 


Since the day I watched these videos, because of my conscience, I have not touched a piece of meat or poultry. 


I refuse to contribute to this inhumanity, no matter how it is justified...


1.  http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/Prefs.asp?video=meet_your_meat


2.  http://www.wegmanscruelty.com/downloads/Trailer-WegmansCruelty.wmv


If there was one, I would belong to the humanitarian party...forget republicans, democrats, etc. 


All animal lovers - check this out. Made me cry.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/08/katrina.snowball.ap/index.html
There is a natural order in the animal world
that does not include mankind. Those animals which are debilitated, old or very young become food for other carnivorous animals. It is population control and also keeps disease at bay as the animals carrying disease are attacks, killed and taken out of the picture. Also, stops bad blood lines as those animals with hip dysplasia from in breeding or the weak and runts are also food for the natural predator.


Thank you for not making fun of me. I just wasn't sure which part of the animal it was and what
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Sometimes they just kill me!

Chief Complaint:  Back pain.


Review of Systems:  No back pain.


Social History:  He smokes and does cocaine.  No alcohol.  No drug use.


 


Hmmmmm???


Anyone know how to kill
these little boogers? I have some at my house, my feline might have had 1 for lunch and they are poisonous to kitties- any ideas? Looked on the internet but could not find anything definite. Thanks!
romey and animal advocate...here are some nice pictures...

http://www.myanimalart.com/pages/galleryliberation.html


posters you can buy, as well...


not sure about you, but we have several wild animal care and education centers...
The best way to start is to volunteer.

We have like Messinger Woods and Hawk Creek around here, like animal sanctuaries, where they have owls, eagles, deer, all sort of animals they need to take care of. You can always visit one and ask questions. I would love that, too, only I can not get my boyfriend interested. I would love to even volunteer.

Sounds funny, but what about a zoo...same thing, you can volunteer at first, see if you like it, and I believe those positions offer decent pay...?
I would spend whatever it takes to keep my " animal kids" healthy. nm
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report on companion animal pet food ingredients

http://www.api4animals.org/facts?p=359&more=1


http://www.homevet.com/petcare/foodbook.html


Check these out if you want to learn more, shocking!!!


re: report on companion animal pet food ingredients
The book "Food Pets Die For" is an excellent. I have been feeding my goldens and Shelties Innova since 1996 or 1997. I now feed Canidae Platinum as it is lower in calories. They all did quite well on both dog foods...shinny coat, bright eyes...in other words, they are healthy looking. No preservatives are in either food so it does have a shorter shelf life than the regular dog kibbe.

My dogs also have marrow bones every night. Some of my friends feed a BARF diet (bones and raw food) only, but I just could not keep that diet up on a regular basis.

A good magazine to subscribe to is the Whole Dog Journal.. www.whole-dog-journal.com/ it is like a "bible" for any one who is interested in the natural way to care and feed dogs. I believe there is a Whole Cat Journal, too.

Usually years. Were you given a used one, full of animal hair, dust, or
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you people kill me! (sm)


give the woman a break, already! HER CHILD IS MISSING IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY! I'm sure she's not in her usual state of mind. Instead of running her in the ground, all this energy should be spent on positive thoughts and prayers for the family and for Natalee. They need support, not condemnation. Prayer is a mighty thing, give it a try!


That which does not kill you, will only make you
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Would it kill a doctor to....

Actually just spell out a name of a random physician that they include in their report?  I mean, for the company I work for, we have to search physician registries and such to FIND physician names.  Now, if the hospital is in Alabama and the doctor just throws it out there and says......"She once saw Dr. XXXXX in Toledo, Ohio", I mean come on now, PUH-LEASE just spell Dr. XXXXX's name for me!  It will take you TWO SECONDS to do so and it takes me way too many minutes to search around and try to find this dude's name! 


Not trying to be Miss Complainey Pants today, LOL, but sometimes you just gotta vent!


see post below "To romey and ANIMAL ADVOCATE...see inside please" (nm)
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I'll be watching Puppy Bowl on Animal Planet!
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not kill any living thing?
oH, what about the plants? are they not living? some worship them too...and NO. I will not leave my God out of anything. My God is in me and I in Him. I will not try to separate one from the other. Sorry if my faith bothers you.
LOL! And stress will kill you or make you
now have some incurable, difficult to treat, chronic, crippling, painful disease brought on by stress!


Please take her to a "No-Kill" Shelter!
Otherwise, the animals are usually put down after only a week and 1 week really isn't long enough to get the dog adopted. So Please only bring the dog to a "no-kill" shelter! 
Hope they don't kill off Tony!!!
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DITTO-don't kill off Tony - say do you think....sm

do you think if we ALL wrote to HBO that they'd keep the Sopranos on for a couple of more years???????  It wouldn't hurt to write to them - I mean how easy can it be online?  *laughs*


Off to write to HBO....*S*


Since he dialed 9-1-1 he will....can't kill him in the first episode! -nm
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if our mothers don't kill us while we are in the womb.
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If I gave that recipe out, he'd kill me....but....
no body lives forever, right? ;) My son makes three 8-inch round cake layers, cuts off the tops to make them all flat then cuts each layer in half (using a piano wire--very culinary :). The rasp. filling from scratch takes forever, but a quick alternative is to heat rasp. jelly on low and add regular nonflavored brandy. Heat stirring constantly until it thickens a little and is spreadable. This should not take very long at all (heating too high for too long will turn it into hard candy when it cools). Spread between the cake layers. The genache is just white chocolate, butter and heavy cream. My son goes by what the stuff looks like with regards to how much of each he needs, but I'll bet you can find a recipe on epicurious. com or the like. I know this is not exact, but hope it helps a little.
so in other words, kill everything that is causing--sm
an epidemic. What about HIV and other diseases? Kill them too?
Yes - cold does kill fleas
it's called WINTER not air conditioning........ROFLMAO!  Are you for real?            
Didn't that unmatched SS kill ya? nm
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Go to Mickey D's where you belong before you kill someone. nm
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LOL. MT's don't kill people. Not that much power! nm
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Hey, I've done that before and they didn't kill me.
I told my boss right away what I did and apologized.  I still have my job.
Yes, as a matter of fact, it WOULD kill them.
And the planet might fall out of orbit too.

I once had to tell a doctor that I'd only been to Ireland once, and thus didn't know any of the same people over there that he did, so when he was writing letters to them and mentioning other people's names (all with the accent of course) I had NO clue who he was talking about.... Somehow, that was an odd concept to him. Doesn't everybody know all the same people in Ireland??
That sounds like an episode of Animal Cops! I'm glad it worked out in your favor. nm

some jerk wanted to kill my pigeons
I have lots of doves, regular birds (sparrows, finches, you name it) and pigeons frequent my property cause I put bird seed down.  I had some guy come by last winter and ask if he could pay me to catch the pigeons so they could kill them and eat them..I said, honey, I love animals and there is no way Im gonna let you come here and kill my pigeons..you are talking to the wrong person, LOL..
Try to get you old job back, I'd kill for $500 a week after taxes- nm
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I'd kill for what you have--- be thankful -- sounds very good to me! - nm
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no, kill animals that are carrying the epidemic
to save the humans. Sorry if you don't agree with that.