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Proofing as you go...as in looking at what you typed?

Posted By: sm on 2006-05-28
In Reply to: No, just using shortcuts - sm

Doesn't everyone? Or do some MTs watch TV or look up in the air while typing? LOL! That is not proofreading - proofreading is double-checking a finished document.


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I don't always but I probably should. Just got feedback from QA that I had chosen wrong account number for date of service. OOPS! 
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The problem is typing faster and faster, you have more potential for typos, etc.  If you reread everything, you make less money.  I would rather work hourly so I could put out a much better product, but  not possible.  So I don't proof, except as I go along, and briefly glance over my finished report.  Otherwise my production would be cut in half. 
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15. per hour without benefits.  Still looking for a company with benefits.  For VR, I wouldn't take anything less than 6 cpl as they nearly have to be retyped.
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Sorry, that should have been docs are dictating, not transcribing. Whew! Eyes are tired!
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The biggest significance for proofing/reading is that when someone uses a macro/expander and it expands out to another group of words than what was intended and the MT not catching it. I know of this happening at a local clinic, and the doctor was furious when it came back to his office obviously wrong because the MT didn't take the time to check over what her macro expanded to!
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I proof as I go. However, it takes a long time to be comfortable with that. You could try to test yourself and do a lot of reports in one day proofing as you go. If you have a way to put them on hold you could go back and check behind yourself just to see how you did. Big time saver but you have to be really focused and really sure of yourself.
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I was just proofing and caught where I had typed "acing" instead of "aching" The spell checker did not pick that up. I'm not here to pick apart what you do, but I would certainly recommend proofing your reports. Good luck to you
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Tinks: I do pay attention as I type, but I always go back and proof. I guess I am too anal! Also, I think it depends on the person and the account. I just don't feel confident enough (even after over 15 years!) to let mine go without giving them a once over. I do agree too that MTs in the hospital setting are not scrutinized as much as those of us working for MTSOs. So much for my 2cents worth!
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I have over 30 years experience, and I still proofread everything I do after it is completed. Having done QC for many years, it is easy to spot those of you who think you can proofread while you are transcribing - the quality just isn't there. Please remember that this not only puts your job in jeopardy but also the jobs of many others as if your employer loses a client, everyone who does that client is now also losing work. More emphasis on quality, less on quantity. If you can't make enough money, try another job; don't complain about, sacrifice quality and make transcription profession look bad.
RE: MDmt and proofing
I agree with you 100%. I spellcheck and then visually proof. My QA ratings are 99-100% on a high-ESL account. I want to say to people who are too lazy to proof: IF YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT RIGHT, WHEN WILL YOU HAVE TIME TO DO IT OVER?
I have just started proofing as I go...

and yes, it does mean no more watching TV while I type ,but I am so pleased with the increase in my production per hour.  There is actually life outside my computer room....


I did have to change some of my Expanders that I consistently type incorrectly, i.e. "or" and "ro" for rule out, but after watching it for a couple weeks and not having any of my reports returned, I am pretty confident that I must be on the right track.


I also keep working on refining my templates to add every possible phrase that the doctor uses so some reports are almost an editing process rather than typing.


Exactly, really can't catch when proofing as you go.
Think about it, you are thinking, listening, typing, foot pedaling, etc., too much going on at once. Not to mention other distractions. Really can't proof as you go, just doesn't work. You have to stop at the end to concentrate and re-read it to catch all the errors. Trust me, I do audits and find errors in probably 8 out of every 10 reports, some very small but still errors. These are most likely from MTs who proof as they go. I totally understand MTs are paid on production and don't blame them one bit for not proofing at the end! But then also should not expect a perfect report or state that proofing as they go works, cause it really doesn't. Ever hear of a writer say oh you don't have to proofread or edit my book before publishing because I proof as I go?!?! Just some food for thought. ; )
they no longer pay for proofing
Just kidding.
I know, I know...
Proofing is very important. Patient care is at stake.
And so are our jobs.



Trained someone by proofing (sm)
She listened to every report, word for word, and she is now one of the best MT's I know.  That would be an excellent way to train.
Proofing Problem

Lately when I proof my work, I don't remember typing things near the beginning of the report and thinks it is something I forgot to remove from a macro.  Then I have to re-listen to that part to verify; wasting time.


I didn't use to do this and don't know how to stop. - Any tips? 


Anyone have any good proofing tips?

Does anyone have any proofing tips/ideas that they use when going over their own reports?


I always, always go over my reports at least once after typing them. Sometimes, though, I will read the sentence like it should be, instead of noticing that I left a simple small word out or something simple like that. I type a lot (and I mean A LOT) of 20-30 second reports a day  lol..and towards the end of the day is when I notice it happening.


I do this on VERY rare occasion and but am just looking for some suggestions.


 


Thanks!


I forgot to mention proofing
You're right! I forgot to mention that proofing takes less time. You'll have less to correct, and you should be able to proof as you transcribe.

You can take advantage of those annoying pauses in the dictation if you use them to proof the line above the one you're working on. Even in a tiny pause, you can proof a little bit.

Good luck with this! Let me know how it goes for you.
Per minute editing/proofing rate
Can anyone give me some good numbers here?  For editing, if you are paid by the minute of dictation, what would be a high and low pay rate per minute?  Thanks for any help on this!
Proofing Help Pleeeez! (long post)

I am 53, divorcee with 1 child in college,  been MTing for 32 years. When I started out I was one of the best in my field, accurate, at my peak was making close to 50,000 a year, only one job and only 40 hours a week.  Now, here I am going through menopause, working 12 hours a day (1 full-time and 1 part-time) and barely making ends meet.  My production is at an all-time low, and I'm working on my 3rd or 4th job this year- I forget, it's been so many, for various reasons why they didn't work out.  But, now I find myself, going into my third week of employment with this company, still in QA, making stupid grammatical errors, and leaving out words, that I am not aware of. I would like to say one of my problems is that this is a huge Children's Hospital with a lot of procedures, diseases, and terminology I have never heard of, but I cannot really say that, as most of my errors are gramatical, i.e. not putting comma or semi-colon where it belongs, leaving out it, and, but and they.  I am beginning to feel they may not keep me.  I am 1 pay check from being homeless, now jobless, already uninsured, as I could not afford the Cobra.  I have applied for jobs completely out of the MT field, so far with no luck of being hired.  I put in an application last week for a State Job with excellent benefits, paid by company, and although the salary is 22,000 to 36,000, if they call me, I am definitely going to take it.  I figure I have 15 more years before retirement, and if I can tap into the retirement for the next 15 years, that would be a help, as I don't have any 401K to fall back on.  Anyways, if you guys can give me some proofreading tips that will not take away from my production, I would greatly appreciate it.  Most companies don't offer a training pay that would last at least 2 weeks, which would be a help.  So here I am trying to make money, which is virtually impossible when you're training on a new account, new company, new software and everything.  Help Guys. 


Out of her dress today (instead of out of her dressing) but I caught it when proofing.
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Okay... do they no longer teach proofing your document before you send it?? (sm)
PRINCIPAL DIAGNOSIS(ES): Left food wet gangrene, status post above-knee amputation on.

Actual copy and paste..... I have no words for this at all.
Okay... do they no longer teach proofing your document before you send it??
Maybe some few isolated case...
The people proofing are human. Humans make mistakes daily.
nm
Just typed in an HP

Under the ROS the heading "Special Senses: Unremarkable"


I once typed for a doc who had
now that was funny!
Maybe that ad was typed by VR... or by an
It irks me no end that our country has shipped off a job to India/Pakistan, etc., that used to be considered important to the medical field, and which fed and housed many of our country's middle-class citizens. So now these foreigners are living the comfy middle-class life, and here I am, trying to rent an apartment and finding that my MT monthly gross pay doesn't qualify me for ANYthing that even distantly resembles a decent middle-class apartment. The only ones I can afford all have "Se habla espanol" in the ads, and of course you know who lives THERE! It's all the non-English-speaking illegals that we've pretty much given carte blanche to come ruin our country, after having done a real number on their own. I hope Uncle Sam enjoys paying for food stamps, welfare, and subsidized housing, 'cause that's where I'm headed unless this profession turns around.
Never typed an ESL??...sm
Now that is strange. As many ESLs as there are. And using the q.d. and h.s. they must have worked somewhere that they didn't use BOS.
--I think she has already typed them.
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Click the office button and then click word options. It's under proofing.
nm
I have always typed mg/dl and I've been
transcribing early 20 years and have never heard anything about KCl.  I currently work for a service that has a very rigid account and we have had to change several things to avoid confusion, though they have never mentioned this one.   I would think it would be a personal preference.  We use BOS as a rule of thumb, but on Tuesdays and the holiday following the third Saturday of the monh between 8 and 10 we do it this way, and then doctor X wants it done this way, which is totally different from standards, not a coherent dictation but he wants it his way. 
Only typed verbatim twice
once for a Russian infectious disease MD. After one week of strict verbatim reports, evidently she got a talking to by the senior partner and her style became acceptable.

The hospital is one of the larget and most respected hospitals in the US. All residents much pass a week-long course dedicated strictly to how to chart, how to document, how to dictate. Each resident must personally sign his/her own name daily on a log in sheet and anyone who misses a day does not get to start with the rest of peers. One day is devoted SOLEY to HOW TO DICTATE and accepting full legal responsibility for the dictation. They have to sign an agreement that the hospital will not provide legal support if their documentation falls short of their standards and the resident has to provide his/her own funding against any lawsuit. If they dictate a reversal of pulse rate/respiratory rate, I could switch them, but I had to send it to QA who attached a note to the dictator covering the MTSO from any repercution.

Best dictators I EVER had!
I typed in my sleep once...sm
it was a late shift, about midnight (which is late for me) and I got up to go downstairs, move around, stay awake, came back and found I had typed something about a TV in a box...? So it can be done!
No, it was a report I typed. Now will you tell me off
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I typed ENT for 6 years and
charged 14-16 cpl but that was about 4 years ago when you could charge that. I printed everything and picked up, delivered. I eventually had to drop the rate down to 10-12 cpl to keep the docs and then they found someone who would do their work for 8 cpl.

I think you are in the ballpark as well. Good luck.
I have to agree -- not only have I typed ERs for sm

people with cold symptoms, flu, snotty nose, etc., and wondered "why in the heck are they in the ER?," I have also witnessed it firsthand while waiting in the ER with my mom.  She had congestive heart failure and towards the end we made frequent trips to the ER when she ended up unable to breathe and no doctor's office open.  They always ended up admitting her anyway.  But I watched the same thing that the poster below mentioned -- nonemergent cases clogging up the works because they treat the ER like a doctor's office. 


And yes, there are "special circumstances" and such, but that was not the situation you were addressing.  Sorry for the attacks you received.  You just put in writing the thing that many of us have been thinking for quite awhile.


I HEAR ya, but only because you typed it.
I am with you. They really are clueless, aren't they!
Oh, okay, like not something we have never TYPED in a report before then...


 


Gotcha!


dictated / typed
Doctor says "jiddo, jiddo, jiddo" - what does this mean"  Why.... 0-0-0 - OMG. The things we put up with for no money.
If they know they've been typed.

Why can't you skip over those patients since obviously they know other girl typed them. 


Do not transcribe for free!  Ever wonder why the other girl left? 


 


"Qualified MT" just typed ...
Arthrosclerotic heart disease. This is an MT claiming to have 5+ years experience and wants to be paid .10 per line.
Any test I have taken I have typed
verbatim exactly because you do not know what they actually want. Also, need to follow BOS guidelines on tests as most MTSOs use these.
Sorry, typed the above without glasses
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I recently typed an EGD....sm.
The patient had choked on a piece of meat and had it lodged in his throat. The whole report for some reason by hands did not want to type food...always foot. I felt pretty confident that I did a good job correcting all of them and sent the report on.

Two days later the doctor sends it back and asks me to change it. No big deal, must have made a different mistake....NO I was so mad at myself that I sent this report that stated "foot was removed from the esophagus". It was embarassing then but now it is pretty funny to me.
got it, DUH. havent typed a Pap in forever.
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Could it be Gemzar? I just typed that last night. nm
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I typed the "F" word the other day and didn't think
That's our job to type what the dictator says. I don't like typing filthy words like that but if they say it, I type it. And she said it, so I typed it!!
Yes, that's why it's funny. If we only typed exactly what they dictated....
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I once typed on a VA Hospital - will never forget it. There was a
brain surgery dictated by the surgeon, a D.M.D. 
Read what you just typed. If somone else
had typed it, I believe you would say:

This is for the good of the family. Your husband is being unreasonable. There are ways of dealing with the little problems. In the end, it will be well worth the sacrifice EVERYONE has made.


I typed out the same thought but erased it...
dd
I've typed such reports
Well not celebrities so to speak, but I've typed reports where they state the patient is being seen under an alias name right at the beginning of their dictation and the alias name is the one in the ADT screens. They deserve some privacy and still abide by HIPAA like the rest of us.