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Sounds like you need to educate yourself on homeschooling. nm

Posted By: Kim on 2006-09-04
In Reply to: Their bellyache will come later, when they actually have to deal - with the real world and real people.

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Please educate yourself on the issue before

making such ridiculous accusations.  "Thinking" is becoming obsolete....just a bunch of lemmings running off the cliff together.


The replies were an attempt to educate...sm

posters about how to do some critical thinking on their own.  It's too bad THAT content was lost.  :(


Don't throw up hands in resignation, EDUCATE
yourself. Immigration has been made into a HUGE issue to distract you from what you should REALLY be concerned about: FOREIGN POLICY. If Americans would sacrifice the 30-60 minutes they waste on TV garbage on any given night and actually PARTICIPATE in their own democracy, they'd be shocked and outraged to know WHERE AND WHAT their tax dollars are actually spent on...

Immigration IS a problem, but NOT in the way we've been led to believe.


I care and I do educate myself, but the jury is still out on global warming.
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Before considering homeschooling, I would
ask a lot of questions such as What is going on to cause the trouble?,  Does he have an inadequate teacher?, Bad atmosphere?, Other children picking on him?  I truly do not believe in homeschooling and feel that it should not even be an option.  Children need social interaction.  They do not need to depend on us moms for every little thing.  They need to learn to stand on their own 2 feet even at this age if they are going to make it in the real world later.
You certainly don't know much about homeschooling. sm

Homeschooled kids are more socialized than you would or could ever imagine.  Just because you bring them home doesn't mean you take them out of the world!  Homeschoolers these days have SEVERAL groups in EVERY area who plan events TOGETHER and help each other as well as LET their kids soialize.  These parents, YES, get to pick who their kids socialize with during these times.  BUT, then you'll find almost all homeschooled kids are also involved in social activities, i.e. community soccer, baseball, football, bowling leagues, ski groups, etc.  They don't have to be sheltered just because they're brought home to LEARN.


You WILL find that most homeschooled kids are more RESPECTFUL of adults than other kids, can INTERACT with adults more easily, and DON'T get away with any excuses as to why their work didn't get done or blame their problems on someone else.  They actually don't have a choice but to take RESPONSIBILITY for their actions.


How could I possibly know all this?  Well, I homeschooled both you youngest children, now 25 and 18.  Both are obviously out in the world now.  Both have good jobs where they work hard to make their livings, the second just as an interim to going to college out of state and the first with his degree and working a very satisfying job.  Both deal with adults in a world where they have become adults and are truly amazing men!  Homeschooling life is certainly a busy one, but I'd not trade back any second of what I was able to help them accomplish in life without ALL the crap that kids get in the public school those days or these days, they actually LEARNED.


YOU obviously know NOTHING about homeschooling and this is a
THEY DON'T NEED to be in school, it's a choice by the parent. This is a very narrow-minded opinion.
BIG YES to HOMESCHOOLING
I have homeschooled my children since Kindergarten and I encourage anyone to try it. I am not what you call a very educated person, high school grad + one year of college, and I have had no difficulty. The A Beka program that someone else mentioned is superb! Use the DVD program.

My daughter is a sophomore in Spanish and Algebra II and we are experiencing no problems. My son is in the eighth grade. He is a typical boy in that he rather play than do school but even with that attitude, he has all A's and B's.

Yes, you do have to be committed! A HOMESCHOOL parent cannot be running around shopping all day. The DVD program does allow the child to work a lot on their own, frees the parent from a lot of responsibilities, but I know that I am giving my children the best education I can possibly give them. That has been proven time and again when the kids in our local area are asking them how to do their school work or spell this for them. One college kid even asked an English question and at that time, my ninth grader, answered their question. He said how do you know that. She replied I have already had that in my schooling!!

Your state probably has a homeschooling organinzation and get in touch with them for guidelines. The public school system will have you jumping through all kinds of hoops that may not be necessary. That is a proven fact over and over again. Get in touch with Home School Legal Defense Association (they have a website) and confer with them before you jump through all the legal hoops. They will tell you what you have to do in your state and what you legally do not have to do. This can save you a lot of heartache in the future, especially if you are pulling out of public school system. You can join this organization for $85 a year and they will provide all the legal assistance that you need, even those who have to go to court over issues. It will also give you peace of mind if someone confronts you of why your child is not in "school." Just show them your "legal defense card" and say they can talk to your attorney. It really is that simply. Never answer their questions, always put them in touch with your attorney. Once you answer them, it makes your case more difficult. This is a great investment.

Someone said it in another post, but NO ONE knows what their child needs better than the parent. You can homeschool and do a great job! If I can do it anyone can!!! It does not hinder with my transcription work either!!
Homeschooling
By the post below, I have noticed that there are a few people here that homeschool. I am curious how you approached this and what steps you took to get started?

I have a son (five-years-old) who is in the public school system at the moment with a developmental delay. I don't feel that his needs are being met at the moment academically or socially for that matter, so I am interested to learn about homeschooling, as I think this may be an option for me to approach given the particular situation.

Any information that anyone who homeschools could provide would be wonderful!

Thank you very much and have a wonderful day!
Homeschooling MTs in GA!
Hi, I am a single mom through adoption from China homeschooling my two girls! I live on the south side of Atlanta. Email me if you want to chat! Jan J.
MT and Homeschooling

Hi I also have two small children and MT full time.  I have a son age 4 and a daughter, almost 3.  I read your post and we seem to have similar views on things.  I am also hoping to homeschool my children.  Was wondering if we could keep in touch via e-mail.  Please let me know if that would be okay.  I've never posted on this board before but I read frequently.  I hope I'm doing this right...


Homeschooling is the best
I have homeschooled for 12 years now. I started out because I knew I did not want to put them in public school, couldn't afford private, but absolutely am so glad I made the choice to homeschool. I'm from the state of Indiana. In our state, you do not want to go with charter school. That still allows the state to control you education and that is what you want to get away from. In our state, if you have little ones who are not in the school system, you do not even want to register with the state. For the best information on your state's homeschooling regulations go to Home School Legal Defense Association website. You can depend on their information. If you choose to join their organization (I wouldn't be without them) it is well worth the money and gives you the support you need. Many, many curriculums out there that are good -- my favorite, A Beka. I know that I'm giving my kids an excellent education!! Could share much more info. Email me if you would like to.
I tried homeschooling
hated it. I think it is all about being involved with the school. My daughter is in public school and doing GREAT! Good luck to you. Don't let anyone bully you into thinking that all public schools are no good -- it is NOT true.
The down side to homeschooling
I have personally seen kids that have been home schooled and become "out of touch" with society. These kids ultimately end up having "culture shock" when they are out in the real world and around lots of people.

I know of several kids that were home schooled and when the parents decided it was too much and they sent them back to school the kids were "THRILLED!" During the home schooling process, the kids became disengaged from friends and became loners.

Again, this is my own personal experience that I have witnessed through friends.

DON'T FLAME ME this is just what I have witnessed first hand!!!!!
Homeschooling x 5 years
I have 3 boys. The first we homeschooled for two years. It did not work at all. He is very social and loved being in school around other kids. He is now in high school and is thriving. We homeschooled him for 4th and 5th because he was having so much trouble keeping up with work.

Sons #2 and 3 are in 4th and 5th and we have homeschooled them all the way from kindergarten. They are wonderful little boys who are not half as social as their brother. My youngest is very shy and introverted. My middle one talks all the time, very much an auditory learner.

But all along they have been involved in a group that teaches twice a week in a class setting. For us, this gives us the best of both worlds. They take history, PE, Spanish, geography, and science in this group. I teach the rest of the curriculum using Bob Jones satellite for grammar, reading, and math. So essentially I don't teach. I am the "overseer" of scheduling, supplies, and grades. It requires a tremendous amount of time and committment though from me. We start at 9 a.m. and finish each day about 3.

My husband worried incessantly at first too that the boys were going to be social freaks or something. Then when the social stuff kicks in, Cub Scouts, co-op, gym at the YMCA, plus a library reading group, he starts saying now, You need to stay home more!

It's not really homeschooling for us. It's independent learning/modified private school. A lot of co-ops are spring up like this. It helps with those of us who want the social aspect without dealing with public school traumas, like homework!!!!

The only problem for me is really the time - it is so tiring. But I do it for the kids and have to remind myself of that a lot. My youngest, being so shy, has the same group of friends for the last four years and has been so happy and settled. Being in a new class each year would be very traumatic for him.

Anyway, good luck. It can be done but research, research, research. The options are endless out there anymore. My recommendation is to start with a really good support group if you can find one and talk to people there. Remember, not all support groups are the same. Many have started based on different educating or parenting beliefs. We dropped out of several due to some problems with bratty kids or uncaring parents who just let the kids run wild. The group we are in now is small but dedicated to teaching and playing time. They are all well-educated too and such a source of information.

God Bless.
Maybe not related to homeschooling, but...
whatever happend to kids just going outside to PLAY???  I don't think these structured lessons and sports are quite the same thing.  Kids are so micro managed anymore that they wouldn't know how to go outside with the kid next door and just climb a tree.  If they did, they'd have to wear a helmet, knee pads, elbow pads, and carry a cell phone to call for help once they got up there.  I guess being a kid in the 1960s was just so different.  We went to school, made our friends, lost our friends, read at our grade level (and that was OKAY), and for the most part we're smart successful people.  Oh well, off my soap box.
Homeschooling mom in GA...What part of GA
I'm in Waycross. I didn't think there was very much homeschooling here. I'm planning on home schooling my daughter before junior high. I was just curious what part of GA you were in.
I will be homeschooling 3 kids

Last year I homeschooled 2 and this year my daughter will be homeschooled as well.  They are excited but I'm still trying to get ready.  We do have a lot of fun and our days are more structured which helps me get my work done.


Need help on possibly homeschooling a 9th grader

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!


A story about homeschooling.....very long
First of all, please know that this post is NOT to say that homeschooling is not as good as public or private school, because that is not my belief at all. I have 2 nieces and 1 nephew on my husband's side of the family who are absolute geniuses because of being homeschooled. I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other about this subject, and I had not even heard of it when my children were young. But this is what happened on the other side of my faily.

My nephews, now ages 14 and 10, were homeschooled by my SIL (my brother's wife). Their 1st son started out in first grade in public school, but they had trouble with the teacher at the very beginning so they pulled him out because they thought the teacher thought the child was not advanced enough to be in first grade. I don't know the whole story because they were always so "private" that they never really shared a lot with us, or maybe just me, I don't really know. Anyway, they decided to homeschool. Honestly, we as the family around them did not feel this was the right thing to do (1) because my SIL was sooo protective, (2) we didn't feel she really had enough education herself to do this (even though I do understand the the cirriculum really "tells" you how to teach, and (3) the fact that there is not a homeschool group close by where we live and my nephew was already showing signs of some kind of social "something" where he didn't interact with other children well - I don't know, just somehow kind of off socially.

Anyway, trying to make a long story somewhat shorter here, they did homeschool hime and his younger brother when he became old enough. Everybody like it well enough, but I could tell that these nephews did not thrive on it nearly as well as my nieces and nephew on the other side of the family, who had really great parents and a really geat support group. Then....my SIL came down with cancer -- melanoma with brain mets -- and for the 14 months or so before she died, the boys used videos and the help of my mother and their other grandmother to continue to homeschool. After their mother died last September, they homeschooled with a friend for the remainder of the calendar year, at which point the friend bailed on them and my brother enrolled them in a Christian school in our area.

Now they are both having MAJOR trouble in school, math particularly. The oldest one has tons of homework and obviously really does not know "how" to study. Sometimes he gets long assignments early and has a few days to work on them, but he "forgets" to start on them, or "forgets" to look at his agenda where he has it written, etc. The kids at school make fun of him and he is almost a complete social misfit - really just because of his personality and, I think, because he has only had 1 or 2 friends all these years, and those were children of a friend of his mother's who has now pretty much dropped out of the family's life so ... poof! - there went those friends. The younger one is having trouble also but not so much socially. But the older one is completely miserable - here he is, beginning his teenage years and no friends at all, his mother gone, living way out in the country where there is not much to do since he "doesn't play anymore" as he puts it, and homework lots of night from 3:30 or 4 p.m. to 10 or 10:30 - plus, on top of it all, he has developed a smart-mouth which is driving his overloaded dad absolutely crazy!

My brother now says that maybe the homeschooling experiment wasn't such a good idea after all. :(

Homeschooling High Schooler
I, too, am thinking about homeschooling my 9th grader.  He goes to a school that is akin to a public zoo.  The boy who sits next to him in Algebra is very proud of the fact that he has amassed a record-breaking 275 referrals already this school year.  As you can imagine, my son is failing this and all of his other classes as the teachers do absolutely nothing to discipline the disruptive students.  My son has struggled with ADHD all of his school career and this is a horrible situation for him.  He is begging me to homeschool him and I am tempted, but do you who have homeschooled a high schooler think it is a good idea?  I have investigated private schools (none affordable in my area) and also after school tutoring but that was not successful.  I am at a loss as to how to help my son, but don't want to "lose him."  My oldest son dropped out of high school in the 10th grade because he was so disillusioned. 
I'll be homeschooling for the first time
NM
Yes. And I'm thinking of homeschooling next year...
so I'm sure it will just get worse, although I hardly talk to any of the other moms at school anyway. It's more of a drop off at school, pick up from school thing. Other than that, I'd say I basically have no friends. We moved up here about 8 years ago. I made good friends at my job, but then my surprise baby came along, had health issues, and I ended up quitting, studying MT, and have been working at home for the last 5 years. I've fallen out of contact with my friends from work. I do have one that we e-mail back and forth from time to time, but it's just not the same when you're not with them for 8 hours of every day.
Approach homeschooling with knowledge. sm
I have family in California that homeschool their children, and it is wonderful. The mother has an education, sets up great courses, and the support network there is absolutely fantastic. Sports, music, field trips, clubs, they are all available. They couldn't get a better education anywhere, and the socialization is absolutely great.

However, I had to homeschool my son last year for health reasons, and there can be real problems. He is an only child and was left out of all the school social activities. Unfortunately, there is no homeschooling network in my area, the nearest one is 150 miles away, so there were no field trips, sports activities, etc. We live in a small town, and not much is available outside school. It took him 2-3 months to get back into the social swing in high school. Fortunately he is very well adjusted, and turned out fine. Be sure the pieces are in place before you homeschool. Otherwise, you will be the only support your child has, and it can be almost a full-time job, especially if you have to start your own organization. I highly recommend homeschooling if you are in an area to do so. It can be a great experience and children can learn so much faster than in the public school. Good luck.
I'm in my 9th year of homeschooling. Have worked
FT the entire time.   I work a split schedule, half morning hours and then the rest evening hours.  That allows me time to homeschool, fix meals, do housework, etc.  
My comparison of homeschooling to MTing at home.
"A full-time job isn't finished in 3 hours (like the abbreviated day many homeschoolers boast about). It's about being there on time, sticking to it even though you may not feel like it, and getting along with people you may not care for, and avoiding those who are not good for you."


DANG! And that's why I got into medical transcription. LOL I didn't want to work fulltime or stick it out in an office. And that whole getting there on time thing, oh, I've never been good with that one.
GEEZZZZ!!!! What a heated debate about homeschooling!...
Man, this is surely a hot topic! Everyone certainly has their own opinion. In the end, you just have to do for your child what you feel is right. Each child is so different, and you are the only one who REALLY knows YOUR child. Some children flourish in the public school system. Some do not for whatever reason. My first two childen went to public school.

My third (ADHD) WANTED to go to public school, but just couldn't handle it, no matter how much medication and how much counseling, and ended up being homeschooled through the internet for 6,7,8, and begged to try the 2,000 kid high school, so she did. Total disaster. Constant phone calls from the school (same as in grade school) and a 1.6 GPA. She then went back to homeschool through the local alternative school, got a 4.0 GPA. Begged to try the high school again for Junior year. Even worst disaster. 0.6 GPA. She flunked everything she couldn't bring HOME to do. Flunked floral design, basketball, swimming, ceramics, band. Passed all the academics, English, history, science. She is now back to homeschooling through the alternative school, but is allowed to go to the high school dances and walk down the isle for graduation, so she is not too unhappy with that. Good luck to you, whatever you choose.
We view homeschooling from opposite spectrums.
But that is okay. What you describe would never work for me -- that is why there are so many different curriculums out there because we are so diverse with different needs. A Beka is a very advanced program and I am satisfied that the education my children are getting will serve them for life in no matter what situation they find themselves in -- from a doctor to the President! They are excelling above most or all of their friends and to me that speaks well for A Beka.
Sounds like you are SM
working for one of the few remaining good companies.  Wouldn't it be wonderful if they all at least made an effort to even out the work?  When you factor in VR and the number of newbees that some companies hire, who just don't have the experience to do the difficult dictators, that makes a sorry life for those who do have the experience and can do it.  Which is why I say if "anyone" isn't happy with what they are doing, then they should look for a company that recognizes their MTs as human beings.  I think part of the problem is that the bigger companies are run by "suits" who don't have a clue about actual medical transcription, all they see is the bottom line and any way to make that bottom liine bigger is fine and dandy with them.  I even heard one of those "suits" say once that it didn't matter if all their MTs quit, they were just typists and the manager could just go out and hire some more.
Sounds like you have too much going on. Take

things in little bits.  (Un)pack/clean for 15 minutes and then work for a bit.   Set a realistic goal to work - say an hour that you can make yourself work, then get up and (un)pack/clean, do laundry, etc. and then come back and work.  If you can afford to work a few less hours do it.  It will give you time to complete the move and give you a break from work.


We are remodeling/redecorating and our house is total chaos.  Some days I can jump right in and get something accomplished and other times I put on blinders and just ignore it all.  Some days I dig right into work and knock out my lines, other days I'm on-line more than working.


Take a break, get refocused, and then try out different routines.  I think we all go through burnout at least once a year and sometimes it takes a bit to get refocused. 


 


Sounds about right
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Thanks, sounds like just what I need.

It isn't that I can't afford either, just concerned that I don't want a 2 year process, because I need to start living now.


I don't need to know particulars, but just wondered how far back your trauma went?  Mine is pretty much a lifetime of traumatic events, but I think most of my issues date back to when I was 5. 


sounds like
Pfannenstiel scar
now this sounds better..
nm
Sounds like...
We need to take what THEY say with a huge chunk of something, and it sure ain't salt! Talk about "The Stepford Transcriptionists." Sheesh. Thanx for ur input - it was driving me nuts!
sounds like there
may have been a problem with their server.  Try it one more time.  If you get the same error page, click the 'refresh' key at the top of your screen to see if this brings the page up.  If it doesn't, you should call someone.
Sounds like MDI
Who do you work for - -if you don't mind saying.
Sounds like what I'm looking for.....
Thanks so much for the replies!
Sounds like my son. sm

My son had an economics project in junior high school. The class was split into groups. Each group was given $75.00 in cash and told to come up with something to make their money back. If they made any profit, it was theirs to keep and split.


My son went through all of the grocery store flyers until he found cans of Pepsi on sale. Then he called all of the pizza places to see if he could get a buy 1 get 1 free special. They bought a bunch of pizza and a bunch of Pepsi, set up a table at lunchtime,  and sold the pizza for $1.25 a slice and the cans of soda for $1.00 a can. They doubled the money, gave the original $75.00 back and split the rest.


Right now my son works in food services at a nursing home. I'm surprised he doesn't charge the residents for delivering their dinners.


Must be. Sounds just like them
nm
Sounds like PMC to me...
 
Sounds like they set you up to

No one can be 100%... 98.8 should be congratulated (IMO) Drs. make mistakes in dictating even.. they aren't 100%.


This sounds like an ad to me.
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Actually, it sounds like the old one is
nm
This sounds about right!
A Japanese company and an American company decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River. Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race. On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile. The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat.

A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action. Their conclusion was the Japanese had eight people rowing and one person steering, while the American team had eight people steering and one person rowing.

So American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion. They advised that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.

To prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to four steering supervisors, three area steering superintendents and one assistant superintendent steering manager.

They also implemented a new performance system that would give the one person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the "Rowing Team Quality First Program", with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rower.

There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.

The next year the Japanese won by two miles. Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles and cancelled all capital investments for new equipment.

The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses, and the next year's racing team was outsourced to India.

Sounds like she does not know what she is doing.
Maybe your company does not pay much for QA or have high criteria
It sounds like......sm
It sounds like they are basing this on income only, not income and output (her bills). She should talk with the folks at Social Service as they can probaby negotiate a better deal for her, either there or somewhere else.

Good luck! :)
sounds like....
the other poster's Stedman's and mine conflict a little. Mine is:
Stedman's Orthopaedic & Rehab Words, Third Edition (1999) so her's may be more up-to-date.

So, share with us what you said and what QA said. I'm curious!!!!
Sounds like my ex also.....sm
very abusive...mine wasn't that controlling, but he was disrespectful to me and did lots of things to hurt and humiliate me, to the point of double dating behind my back with his oldest daughter and her boyfriend, and on our anniversary to boot. I am out of that mess, met a much nicer guy who is secure with himself and am happier because of it.
Sounds like you seriously need to consider the
How do I know if I am in an abusive relationship? What are the signs and symptoms of an abusive relationship?

The more of the following questions that you answer Yes to, the more likely you are in an abusive relationship. Examine your answers and seek help if you find that you respond positively to a large number of the questions.

Your inner feelings and dialogue: Fear, self-loathing, numbness, desperation

* Are you fearful of your partner a large percentage of the time?
* Do you avoid certain topics or spend a lot of time figuring out how to talk about certain topics so that you do not arouse your partner’s negative reaction or anger?
* Do you ever feel that you can’t do anything right for your partner?
* Do you ever feel so badly about yourself that you think you deserve to be physically hurt?
* Have you lost the love and respect that you once had for your partner?
* Do you sometimes wonder if you are the one who is crazy, that maybe you are overreacting to your partner’s behaviors?
* Do you sometimes fantasize about ways to kill your partner to get them out of your life?
* Are you afraid that your partner may try to kill you?
* Are you afraid that your partner will try to take your children away from you?
* Do you feel that there is nowhere to turn for help?
* Are you feeling emotionally numb?
* Were you abused as a child, or did you grow up with domestic violence in the household? Does domestic violence seem normal to you?

Your partner’s lack of control over their own behavior

* Does your partner have low self-esteem? Do they appear to feel powerless, ineffective, or inadequate in the world, although they are outwardly successful?
* Does your partner externalize the causes of their own behavior? Do they blame their violence on stress, alcohol, or a “bad day”?
* Is your partner unpredictable?
* Is your partner a pleasant person between bouts of violence?

Your partner’s violent or threatening behavior

* Does your partner have a bad temper?
* Has your partner ever threatened to hurt you or kill you?
* Has your partner ever physically hurt you?
* Has your partner threatened to take your children away from you, especially if you try to leave the relationship?
* Has your partner ever threatened to commit suicide, especially as a way of keeping you from leaving?
* Has your partner ever forced you to have sex when you didn’t want to?
* Has your partner threatened you at work, either in person or on the phone?
* Is your partner cruel to animals?
* Does your partner destroy your belongings or household objects?

Your partner’s controlling behavior

* Does your partner try to keep you from seeing your friends or family?
* Are you embarrassed to invite friends or family over to your house because of your partner’s behavior?
* Has your partner limited your access to money, the telephone, or the car?
* Does your partner try to stop you from going where you want to go outside of the house, or from doing what you want to do?
* Is your partner jealous and possessive, asking where you are going and where you have been, as if checking up on you? Do they accuse you of having an affair?

Your partner’s diminishment of you

* Does your partner verbally abuse you?
* Does your partner humiliate or criticize you in front of others?
* Does your partner often ignore you or put down your opinions or contributions?
* Does your partner always insist that they are right, even when they are clearly wrong?
* Does your partner blame you for their own violent behavior, saying that your behavior or attitudes cause them to be violent?
* Is your partner often outwardly angry with you?
* Does your partner objectify and disrespect those of your gender? Does your partner see you as property or a sex object, rather than as a person?

This sounds like a little boy to me *S*....not fun (sm)

Sounds like my dad, X, and I would not put up with that s**t for long.  Blessings to you.