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Thank you: We need a voice...(nm)

Posted By: MTMT on 2005-07-22
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Should be voice to voice (talking), not transcribing. nm
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voice rec

Hi,


  I use it for my docs who get real wordy in history and physicals......it is accurate to a point, but you have to really proof it. 


Cindi


Voice
recognition...
Voice recognition
There's an ad on Mtjobs.com for editors for a voice recognition account. The company is called Focus Infomatics.

Voice recognition?
Hello, new to these boards and I have a question.

Is there a voice recognition software that will work for medical reports? I'm not sure how it would work, if it would actually translate the speech directly from the dictation you are listening to on your computer, or if you'd have to listen and speak it at the same time for the software to translate it?

I've been doing MT for about 3 years now and I'm developing hand/wrist pain, and I'm afraid my time in this profession may be running out. I really love this work and I'm hoping to find a way to make it work.

Dee

Voice recognition
Naturally Speaking v.8 works great if,

The digital voice recorder can deliver at 44.1 khz. However, these are .wma files and are HUGE!

The user takes the time to teach the software the nuances of his/her voice. This takes weeks.

The user knows how to punctuate. There are a lot of smart people that don't know where the hypen goes.

The user uses standard dictation commands ie. full stop, new paragraph ect.

If not, you end up with a blob if inaccurate info that's going to the MT for clean up.

If so, you end up with a relatively accurate doc that still should go to a MT for proofing.

IMHO, there's a lot of speech recognition software on shelves all around the world.

Brad
That too has now gone to voice recognition
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Does anyone use voice recognition to help them do their job?

Voice Recognition

After hearing about it for years, I finally did my first VR work a few days ago.  My fellow MTs, I think we have nothing to fear from this technology.  It will take years, probably a generation, before it is perfected enough to replace us.   I actually found it rather entertaining to edit - it just prints out exactly what it hears phonetically, including the instructions - "Go back up and add...."  


I think they should show some Voc Rec printouts and transcribed reports of the same dictations at all Medical Staff Meetings so  dictators can see just what we do in our job. 


Voice recognition
...I agree with your post Desertflour, but for a different reason. Medical language specialists should keep statistical analysis of what VR types and present it to administrators to show how much they are foolishly throwing their money away! By the time the MLS edits and corrects, it is almost like retying. Where's the savings?
Voice Recognition

I've done voice recognition in the Radiology department for a hospital for two years. I wasn't there when they first started using it, but I'm told the goal was for them to have only one Transcriptionist (editor). We're fully staffed now (actually today was my last day there - I'm working at MQ now) and let me tell you, those docs are not even close to being ready to solve their own problems and self correct. There is only one doc out of 17 that self corrects, and his reports don't look good at all.


I'm not saying it'll never happen, but I think we're going to be needed for awhile.


Voice Transcription
Voice Transcription is the company that I've been having trouble getting paid. Is this the same as you? I sure hope not, as I still have some hope that she'll get around to paying me.
voice recognition
Could somebody tell me about voice recognition as far as transcriptionists using it?  How does that work?  I'm really interested.  I know that several years ago it was the talk, but I think everybody found out it was not very good or easy to train.  Are transcriptionists now using it to transcribe dictation? and how do they do this?
Voice Recognition
Voice Recognition (VR) software does require some change in discipline for the dictator. However, today's VR programs are much more intelligent than in years past (and not too past, either).

The key to successful VR is the "training" of the software for a particular user. Once that's done, the software can do a 95%+ job in accuracy. And, after correcting any errors, the software gets even more accurate.

I'm a speaker this weekend at the San Diego AAMT chapter meeting. I'm giving a talk on how VR can be used to make MT's more efficient. I think it's time more MT's took a serious look at letting VR help them get more work done more quickly. I have 3 MT's in my family, so it's not just the salesman in me speaking - I truly think you could get ahead of the game and negate your doctor's switching on their own ("Hey, Doc, I'm already using VR, so you don't have to go through the hassle"). And Dr.'s don't have time to be fooling around with software, training, corrections, etc.

Just my two cents.
Bret Williams
NovuScript
Voice Recognition
We're moving to use Packet8 VoIP service. We've been studying VoIP solutions for some time now, and I think they have the best program (we'll see when we begin testing it soon). Their calls use less bandwidth than Vonage, which we like. As for back-up phone lines, you can configure the Packet8 system to route calls to your cell phone (or another land line) if your Internet connection goes down. We like that feature particularly. We're on a fixed-price LD plan with SBC right now, so the LD savings aren't much, but for our toll-free line, we stand to save a bundle!
It is voice recognition...probably 2.5 cpl.
You edit what the system/computer puts out which could sometimes be nearly the entire thing for that amount per line! No fun!
Voice Recog
If anyone has a VRS would you let me know if it's worth the money and time? I had Dragon a year or two after it came out and was not too happy with it. I just wonder if there have been improvements. I probably won't use it for med trans but have an idea to use it for data entry which I also do. Thanks!
Yes, it was bad, but they can take an every horrible voice
and make it better in a recording. She does not have a horrible voice, just not the strong voice that she THINKS she has. It will be a lot better when released on a DVD, just watch and see.

TAYLOR ALL THE WAY TO WIN!!!
voice recognition just got

Some people have asked if it was possible to install Dragon on their system and then play the physician's dictation into the microphone. (wouldn't that be nice?) Well, things have moved that much closer to this happening.


There is a product called TranscriptionAID, which is sold by TranscriptionGear (click on link below). It is used in conjunction with DNS. I think the article is fairly self-explanatory.


Voice recognition
I tried it years ago and it was a joke.  I'm sure the technology has improved so I would like to know too.  I may have to look at it again.
EHR and voice recognition

I don't know about the EHR part, but I know the voice recognition part is not true.  Many doctors still do not like voice recognition from previous years when it was introduced, and many will never be able to use it.  Dictating so that it is understood by a computer program is a skill that many doctors will never have (or take the time to develop). 


Also, even if everyone did go to voice recognition, the work would still need to be edited.  I have used voice recognition in my work, and it takes a long time to train, and even then it gets confused because it cannot 'think.'  It also makes many errors that are hard to catch without very diligent proofreading.


 


Voice Recognition
Has anyone worked for a company that does voice recognition? Is it easy to get used to the software.  I have a job offer and would like some input.
Voice Recognition
I worked at the Mayo Clinic in Jacksonville and they had a pilot program for voice recognition.   Two transcriptionists spent their day editing and proofreading for a couple of doctors who had been hand picked for their clear English.   Around the time I left, the program was being scrapped due to too many bugs in the system, too time consuming for the transcriptionists and just not cost effective.   It's going to be a long time before they figure out how to make it work - thanks to foreign-speaking doctors
voice files
Yes, mine are emailed too.  They are usually .dvf or .wav files..  Call GearPlayer from that website I posted and ask if this is compatible for you.  If so then purchase it and call them back to be walked through downloading to your computer (I download to a folder named "Work to be Typed" by "Saving Target As." ) 
Voice Recognition & EMR
I am starting to be concerned about EMR and voice recognition taking our jobs.  I wonder if they will even need us in 5 years.  I know most hospitals tell everyone they will still need them as editors, but surely it will eliminate many jobs or they would not be willing to incur the expense of the new systems.  What do you think?
voice recognition
I think you will find this article interesting:

http://www.healthmgttech.com/archives/0205/0205is_speech.htm
VOICE RECOGNITION...
CHECK IT OUT! HOPEFULLY, THIS WILL MEAN A LITTLE MORE JOB SECURITY!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=2Y_Jp6PxsSQ

LOL!!!!


another voice in agreement with yours...
I've been doing this 13 years, some of it as a QA Editor (the only time I've ever heard of being promoted to a "higher position" yet making significantly less money...)and I agree with all of the above. My favorite is when you put in for a raise and get ignored, time and again, even though you are called a high producer and put on difficult accounts because you "do so well on them". Also, voice recognition is going to destroy this profession entirely probably sooner than later. It's all changing completely. I finally decided I'd had enough and went back to college a couple years ago to change professions entirely. In a year and a half, I'll have my new degree and be done with MT forever and it will probably be the happiest day of my life.
Voice Recognition

What can anyone tell me about VR? I have never used it, but I am about to start working for a company that does.  Thx!


voice recognition, if you know of any (sm)
companies who just do ERs please share. Thanks!!
You can also tell from the name on the voice file. sm
The files are named sequentially, lowest to highest. That should also help you to detemine which ones are the "oldest".
Voice recognition
Am I the only one out here that feels VR is cheating us out of money for the same skills? I'm ENRAGED!
As in voice recog?
My company uses this and my hands LOVE ME.  We get paid editing rate for VR jobs or basically 1 line VR=1/2 line MT.  BUT I make more money here than I did at old job.  If you can read fast and are good at editing it's great.  Today for example in 8 hours I edited over 2450 lines plus did 200 MT lines which equals 1427 lines at MT pay.  Plus as we all know, typing all day hurts the fingers and editing VR once the docs get up and running is so much easier on them.  Good luck!
D/l them onto zip file and take with you. Voice
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voice recognition
I have some experience with VR and it is not good.
If you are saying that it is just, I quote ...' files that you have to read through and 'fill in blanks'?
then allow me ro give you my experience.
The text documents that I received as a draft that the computer 'heard' and was printed out to be edited by me, contained whole sentences that did not belong there, not only words. And VR does not leave 'blanks', it just types wrong 'things' it hears. I don't kow how they came into these documents. I had to delete a lot. It was confusing.


VR = voice recognition (nm)
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voice recognition
It is totally less pay for equal work.  Who ever heard of 5.95 cents per line.  I was making 10 cents a line 20 years ago.  I was a coder for 20 years without the CCS and am thinking about going ahead and getting that.  Local hospitals pay $28 for CCS, as much as a nurse!  What about transcriptionists?  We are getting the bumm end of the deal.
Voice rec editors don't have to have the
level of experience & knowledge required to be a QA. Correcting voice rec & grading/auditing an MT aren't even comparable.
voice recognition
Has anyone who has worked on voice recognition made more or less money per line than regular systems?  Please share your experience good or bad.  Thanks.
Voice Recognition?

Just say no.


It is an editor's job with 50 to 60% more work for less money.  Just another exploitation of the hard work of a Transcriptionist for your expertise.  Obviously, voice recognition is not that efficient or they would not need you to "edit." 


One day, when these companies figure out how to get us all to work for free they will enact that, and tell us "what a privilege and honor it is for you to be selected to a part of this new cutting edge technology."


Yeah, right.  PFFTT!  What will surprise you is how many MTs actually stay to work for free because they blew smoke up their dress.  LOL.


Voice recognition
Well, well, well...I just got the phone call from my company today telling me the "Exciting News" about switching to voice recognition.  Yippeee!!!  Even better - my pay now goes from 10 cpl to a whopping 3 cpl!!  Wow - maybe that means I'll be able to afford that brand new Escalade I've had my eye on .  Actually, I'll be lucky if I can afford to buy a loaf of bread after this change happens in March.  We're all on a rapidly sinking ship - she's going down.  My question is what seems to be the going rate for voice recognition?  I feel like I'm living in India - 3 cpl!  That's the thanks I get for 10 years of experience.  Reduced to a third-world country wage...
Voice recognition
Well, well, well...I just got the phone call from my company today telling me the "Exciting News" about switching to voice recognition.  Yippeee!!!  Even better - my pay now goes from 10 cpl to a whopping 3 cpl!!  Wow - maybe that means I'll be able to afford that brand new Escalade I've had my eye on .  Actually, I'll be lucky if I can afford to buy a loaf of bread after this change happens in March.  We're all on a rapidly sinking ship - she's going down.  My question is what seems to be the going rate for voice recognition?  I feel like I'm living in India - 3 cpl!  That's the thanks I get for 10 years of experience.  Reduced to a third-world country wage...
Voice recognition
I thought the same thing as the doctor and 2 RN CNPs that work with him went that route rather than giving me that work.  However, they realized that if they spend an extra 20 minutes a day with fixing things on the VR, they can see an extra patient and do what they are best at, and give me the transcription work, which I am best at - a win/win for both of us!  Maybe this will give us all some hope for the future. 
Thank you for giving us a voice - sm
It is a good starting point.  THANK YOU!! 
Voice Recognition
Can anyone tell me if they actually make as much money doing mainly voice rec as they do just transcribing or not? Is 4 cpl for voice rec fair compensation?
Voice Files
I tried that. They won't drag into the box.
Voice Files
That worked. Thanks so much!
Pay for Editing Voice Recognition

I am being paid 4 cpl for editing reports produced by voice recognition software (eScription).  Is 4 cpl the norm?  Are other companies paying more to edit voice recognition reports?


I proof every single one to voice
I've been an editor and proofreader for a lot longer than I've been a medical transcriptionist. I am well aware that the mind can see what it expects to see rather than what is actually on the screen or page. I proof every single one of my reports to voice, and knowing the mistakes I've caught in my own reports, I wouldn't do it any other way. Even with proofing, I average well over 200 lph, and my two most recent QA scores were 100%.
Does anyone use voice recognition to do their work?...
I have this one psychiatrist (long-winded) that I thought I might try to use voice recognition with. Does anyone have any experience with this? Could I hook him into the microphone jack or something and let it rip? Thanks for your help...
Voice recognition software (sm)
Asked this on equipment board also -- Can someone please help me out with voice recognition program/software for personal  use.  What are the names of some products available and where do I purchase this particular software.  Best Buy, Radio Shack, Circuit City, etc.?  Thanks for information.