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The political people knew what could happen if a hurricane hit New Orleans. sm

Posted By: just my 2 cent on 2005-09-04
In Reply to: I just don't understand how they underestimated this thing (sm) - FL Resident

after 9/11 they diverted the money for the war.  One should not take money from one project to do another.  This tragedy didn't make any sense and there are some people on the political board that says its the mayor fault.  What a joke.


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People die and lose everything on a daily basis, not just hurricane
victims. I wish people would stop insinuating that everyone in the country who is getting on with their own lives is selfish or uncaring.
Watching CNN - New Orleans. See people walking through water (sm)
A thought comes to mind.  I would be afraid to just walk around in the water.  Isn't there a chance that either sharks or gators could have come inland with the water? 
How is this political? This is a state of living, not bickering political points. Truth hurts...NM
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Use political board for political posts. NM
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for the drivethru, but this is ridiculous and disgusting.  What are these companies thinking?  Sheesh.
To me what is scary is the way some people think. They imagine it won't happen
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I heard they were not nice to work for. Knew people who have worked there and left.
This is secondhand information, but I trust the people that told me this.
Puhleez! I happen to know of two MAJOR MTSO's who charge 0.45 cpl and only pay their people 0.08


to 0.09 cpl!  And both of the two companies I speak of also offshore. So let's do the math, they charge the client 0.45 cpl, they pay the India MTs 0.02 cpl.  Either way you add it up, they are making big money off our sweat or by exploiting third world workers!


Boo Hoo for the MTSO's and their overhead and their time and headaches.  And what friggin overhead do they have, really?  They have an office staff of about 10 people at the very most!  They employ mostly IC's, don't have to worry about paying for benefits and the one's that do have actually employees, the benefit packages are a joke.


I will say one thing, if I EVER lose my mind and decide to take a job with another MTSO, I will turn over every rock I can find before I accept a position.  They want to do a background check on me?!?!!  Well, I'm gonna do one on them.  


I harbor just a little ill-will towards some MTSO's.  If they're not offshoring the work, they're screwing us "worker bees."  It is a racket and it's best to get your own accounts or eliminate the middle man and work for the hospital.  I do both.  The hospital pays me hourly and gives me great benefits for me and my kids.  My accounts are for making my fun money!


 


Never had this happen either. Email the SH people. They're very prompt with help. Good
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Anyone from New Orleans?

My son and two other friends doing. Staying in the Cotton Exchange Hotel on Carondelet St in French Quarters. I found this on the internet (after days of searching for an opening), so I hope I have at least gotten them a decent room. Just wondering if anyone knew of this hotel and any suggestions for nice places to eat, etc. (All 20 years olds and never been there)


 


Anyone STILL in New Orleans???

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New Orleans...
I don't know about U guys but I'm finding it a lot harder these days to complain about the usual stuff I tend to complain about - bad dictators, bad companies, bad hair days, etc...every time I start feeling sorry for myself the words "New Orleans" keep popping into my mind - and the complaining stops. Those poor souls...
S.O.S in New Orleans...
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New Orleans
I have been watching CNN a lot this past weekend. The Mayor from N.O was very angry. No one sent buses or any kind of transportation to get the sick and poor people out of N.O. Wal-Mart was turned away two days before the storm by FEMA with a tractor trailer full of water, FEMA said we don't need it. Diesel fuel turned away by FEMA - we don't need it. Two gentlemen were on Meet the Press yesterday morning and they said not one piece of debris or rebuilding of homes should be done in N.O. until they rebuild the city to make it above sea level, which they have been told about by experts for the past 13 years that a grade 5 storm would do this exact thing to N.O. If they rebuild it as it is now, the same thing will happen all over again. Washington has known about N.O. problems for the past 8 years and nothing has been done. I don't know who is at fault, but there was a lack of communication somewhere by someone. One gentleman said FEMA should not be a part of another agency but should be on its own like it was years ago. But of course if you take funding away from the Army Corps of Engineers in the amount of 13 million or so, your hands are tied on what projects can be done. They said the city can be rebuilt the right way, but the cost is in the billions. I just know that because someone did not do something right there are millions suffering, hundreds dead and the rest of the world cannot believe that the U.S. took so long to help out these poor people with food and water. It just breaks your heart. I do hope that they don't just start rebuilding the city of N.O. below sea level and have this happen again, maybe not this year but with mother nature, could happen at any time.
Hurricane Wilma

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I work in New Orleans

I'm not familiar with that particular hotel, but I would imagine anything on Carondolet Street should be decent.  Just make sure they stick together and stay where people are.  Essence Festival is this week, so should be pretty crowded.  As in any major city, there are definitely areas they should not venture into, and I'm sure the hotel concierge can help with that, as well as restaurants (there are many  excellent restaurants in the area!).  I hope they get to experience many of the great things about this city while they are here.


Animals need help in New Orleans
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Anybody want to help the animals in New Orleans, just go to the below link and check out what you can do, many many displaced animals there that need your help.

https://www.bestfriends.org/donate/index.cfm
Rebuilding New Orleans
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I think the smell would be better in New Orleans
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Or New Orleans! or Mississippi!
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Squirrels Benefits from hurricane
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Bringing up hurricane discussion

Just for some other information.  When Hurricane Rita hit in Texas, i.e. Jasper, Beaumont area, these people were not prepared.  They were not prepared because hurricanes do not come in that far inland.  The Jasper area is one of the areas where most hurricane victims evacuate too.  There are people in that area that are still without power including elderly people and children.  Most of the surrounding areas (Pineland, Rosevine, Hemphill) are retirement areas.  These are also low income areas as well.  These people definitely would not have expected the hurricane to effect them in the way that it did, but it did.


 


Also, people in Lufkin and Nacogdoches, Texas were effected from it as well.  Again, a hurricane never has come close to these areas and these areas are also where evacuees come.  During the time we had evacuees from Galveston, Beaumont, Houston, and still the ones we had from Louisiana drained the resources that we did have here (not saying anything negative by this – just a statement).  None of the businesses could get trucks in to deliver gas, food, ice, water, etc.  When we did get gas delivered, the lines were so long that people were waiting 9-10 hours to get gas and of course by the time most got up there, it was gone again.  This went on for several days.  Even the Wal-Mart here and in Nacogdoches was only able to be open a few hours a day and for the first few days after the hurricane because of the amount of extra people in these areas, they finally had to limit the number of people they were allowing in the store at a time.


 


Some of you say, people should be prepared.  I do agree and especially more so if you live in a coastal area.  However, these people affected in the areas I mentioned above do not live on the coast; however, were heavily impacted by this natural disaster.  You are saying these people don't deserver help?!  Well let me tell you this.  When we had a lot of LA evacuees here, FEMA stepped in and for a lot (not all of course) they received $2000.00 for help with housing, another $600.00 for food, and there $400.00 for something else (honestly do not remember what it was).


 


However, my mother and father-in-law who are elderly went 14 days without power, lost everything in the freezer and refrigerator, and they are also raising 2 of their grandchildren (both young teenagers).  They were unable to get FEMA to help with anything. 


 


I guess the point is this.  Before spouting off about who needs to do what or who the government does or does not need to help (or where you tax monies go), you might want to think about the fact that this was a natural disaster and therefore, no one can ever really be prepared for one.  I hope none of you ever have to deal with anything like this.  It is not a pretty site in this area right now.  Clean up is still going on.  There are still trees down on houses and cars.  How would you feel if this were you? 


 


By the way, yes I do feel that my family was very lucky to come through it unscathed; however, some were not so lucky.


 


Just my 2 cents.


Height of hurricane season is Aug-Oct. (SM)
A friend booked a FL vacation during September. Told her don't do it.  She still did.  She had to cancel the entire vacation and "could not believe a hurricane hit."  I always told family/friends to never go anywhere in the Atlantic, Gulf, FL, islands during hurricane season but they book it anyway because it's cheaper, then they complain about hurricanes ruined their plans.  DUH!
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I knew him well before I asked him out, so I knew
a long time before our first date that he was the one for me. He didn't know it that soon, but I did.
I wondered if your NOLA = New Orleans LA!

Yes, I agree, I think that is not a bad wage for my area.  I work for a medical school in NOLA (hint: Go Green Wave ) as my FT job, but transcription is not my primary job.  I honestly couldn't do transcription FT every day!  My hat goes off to all who do though.


My primary account is in New Orleans
They aren't dictating.  They don't need transcription help.  I need work, but I'm not whining.  At least I have a dry home!!!
Nagin of New Orleans, no hero
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Looking for an MT friend that was in New Orleans area...
Angelique...are you okay??  I wish i could hear from you and know if you are okay.  I have prayed for you since the day the storm hit.  I had talked to you 3 days prior and I am sad I didn't have time to say hi a bit a longer.  I miss talking with you dearly!  Please tell me you are okay.  I have tried to email you, but to no avail...this is the only place I could think to try.  If anyone knows Angelique please tell me if you know anything!!
IS IT SENSIBLE TO REBUILD NEW ORLEANS BELOW SEA LEVEL
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No, unless a hurricane is on its way, the Olympics are on, or news like today's. nm
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Just stay away from Florida during hurricane season. nm
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Any medical centers in hurricane area need help?

How can we find out and how can we help?


http://www.gonzalescofc.com/hurricane.html
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thinking of going to Cancun. Did the hurricane hit it too hard?

1 hurricane in 30 years or every year. I'd take Texas :)
Just kidding with u but I have been to Florida..... Talk about illegals! woweee. Not saying all over, just where I have been. See...... generalizations help no one. If you don't live there, you do not know so please consider your response. And, yes I was actually raised in Pasadena/Houston TX area and NO WAY would I want to live there again. :)
The trees are the main concern in a hurricane (sm)
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Comment about New Orleans and Ray Nagin, the Mayor...sm

I just read below that a lot of you believe that Ray Nagin is a "hero" for speaking his mind, etc.  My DH just told me this morning that he read the evacuation plans for New Orleans and what the city and its leaders (Nagin being the main leader) were supposed to do in the event of a hurricane, flood, etc.  The manual stated that ALL public transportation was to be used to but the elderly, sick, poor, and those unable to get out to higher ground until the storm or catastrophe passed.  He did not do that. He got on tv and told those to get out. No public transportation or school buses were used to get these people out. 


I hate to judge, but I just cannot help but think that this guy is all talk and no action?  I don't know, sure does sound like it to me.  I too thought he was awesome, until my husband explained the evacuation procedures and how the city did nothing but warn of people to get out - and did not help them....


I know, sounds like the blame game and I am sorry if it sounds like I'm blaming.  I just can't help but state this when now the facts are coming to light.


I hold New Orleans totally to blame

They knew they had a city under sea level. They knew the levees could only withstand a Category 3 hurricane. They had three days to get enough food and water into the Superdome.


Need I go on?


relocate to higher ground! New New Orleans! :) (NM)
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Is Hurricane Dennis affecting anyone's work today?
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Figure out a way to stop a freakin' category 5 hurricane?
This was a NATURAL disaster, hello! How do you stop a 175 mph powerhouse? You don't..you just get out of the way.
See hurricane board for ways to help N.O.area animals. NM
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Hurricane Rita just upgraded to Category 5 with winds of 165 mph
I hope everyone from TX stays safe. Learn from Katrina.
Not to make this political, but...
Next time you vote for the Democrats, please realize that the ACLU has their hands ALL OVER the Democratic party, and the ACLU will fight to the end for the rights of those such as child molesters.  Just Google the case about the boy in Massachusetts who was killed by a pedophile who frequented the NAMBLA website, which actually gives tips and information on how to gain access to little boys and actually condones sexual relations between men and boys.  While neither political party is perfect, I find the actions of the ACLU more of than not to be unacceptable and I don't want anything to do with them.  They used to do good work for the rights of others, they've now swung WAY too far in the other direction to the point of "stupid", especially when it comes to the rights of obvious criminals who would harm our children.
My political views
You need to take my political views with a grain of salt.  I really don't know enough about politics to even be on here running my mouth.  Furthermore, I don't hate President Bush, I do so enjoy picking on him; but I know he has a very difficult job, and I bet money he is a lot smarter than me.
Bono political and
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New Orleans not only below sea level but sinking 1 more inch a year.
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