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This is one place the font and line length absolutely

Posted By: well on 2005-08-30
In Reply to: How much is 6 cents per gross line? nm - km

make a difference. If you have to use a small font and long line length, you will make the same or less than a 65 character count. Always check out the number of characters that can be put on the line with their defined margins. For example, 1 company uses 1 inch margin, but a tiny font, so the line length can actually be 104 characters, or almost double what the counted 65 character line is. Some have a "secret" formula for saying it will come out the same as a 65 character line, but that is a hoax, as well, as only part of the report is adjusted for that, not the entire report. The only gross line count on WP51 was the only good way for gross lines. Word has really changed that picture.


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It depends on font size, line length, margin size, etc.
There are too many variables. 
The font has nothing to do with the length
of a line, that is set by the margins. A 65-character count line is a line, whether the line itself has 55 characters or 85 characters. It takes 65 to make a line.
I think it means any line no matter what length.
but that's a guess
Absolutely...this is the place to correct
and please correct me before I send a mailing to doctors! I do think cai would appreciate it in that respect. Definitely, help a sister out when you get a chance!
Font and line counts
Here's another question in this regard.  A friend of mine always worked in-house and they were allowed to use Courier New 12.  She is now working for a service where the font is Times New Roman 12.  She finds that her line counts are half of what they were when using Courier New 12.  Does this sound right?  This service said that they were paying her for a 65-character line with spaces.  I am wondering if they are really paying her without spaces. Maybe this is the difference in line count.  Any ideas of why such a difference in line count?
not OP, but what is standard font for gross line that most are using? sm
how would you go about it if the acct suddenly decreased font size from 12 to 10, but expects to pay the same? to me it is kinda like a decrease in my pay!!!! well it is technically because i am doing the same amount of work for less money and i am not happy.
I agree - font has nothing to do with line count

I just changed font as well down to 11 font because they only have a typewriter and want to make corrections on reports I have printed and they do not have access to the reports (old doctor), but anyway, there is no change in line count.  It just makes the font smaller.


Do y'all think the size of the font matters in line counts?
If your font is smaller takes more characters to make a line?  I just wondered this today. 
Yes, watch margins/font. Unlike 65 chars line, this
I was paid on gross line for years, and I found that it worked out to be about 2 cpl higher than 65 chars line. Thus, 8 cents per gross would equal to roughly 10 cents per 65 chars. However, as other poster stated, you have to make sure it's a 12-size font and 1-inch margins
Gross line was 7, not 8. Depending on font size and margins
7 cpl is about 8.5 cpl. 
I've been seeing a lot on this board about fonts and font size affecting line counts and I was...

wondering how this is possible?  I mean if your lines are based on a 65 character line then what difference does the font type or size make?  I mean, a character is a character whether it's type in Arial, Times New Roman, or Courier.


I use MP Count to count my lines and I decided to do a little test.  I typed a document and saved in Arial 10 and 12 font type and size, Times New Roman 10 and 12 font type and size, and Courier 10 and 12 font type and size.  And then I ran a line report on each individual document counting lines by 65 characters per line strict (no spaces) and came up with 24 lines each time in each font type and size.


There was an MT below who was saying she types in Arial for her client, but bills them for Courier like it made a difference in the lines.  Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't see how it makes any difference at all.


Format, Font, Choose Font, Style Size & Color
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Absolutely never take anything that low! I would never take pay by line at all anyhow.
However, if you do, don't do it for any less than an MT would make per line because it takes an Editor a lot more time to edit than to transcribe a report from scratch.
Make sure you find out what font and font size
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Absolutely OPs only! Great pay and line count - been doing only Ops for 12 years now! nm
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It absolutely is a way to cut an MT's line count since most companies don't pay for headers,

footers, and anything in the template.  This one of the BIG reasons why I decided to give up working for the nationals.  I bit the bullet and went back to work in the office for a while and then finally I found a job with a hospital that allows me to work at home, pays me hourly plus incentive, and doesn't try to cheat me out of my line count.


I just always felt like I was working my rear end off lining the pockets of the MTSO's while they nickeled and dimed me to death!


That's my 0.02 cents worth!


Absolutely not! Most editors do not charge by the line. A good editor
knows that line pay is not fair pay, or let's say a quality editor knows that line pay is not fair pay.  I have done some VR editing and believe me, the ones I did you literally had to retype the whole report.  Figure out an hourly rate that would work for you and don't take anything less.  Editors or QA people should not be paid on production.  That's the final step to quality and some of these groups, services, will learn that one day!  Some of the better ones already know that. 
EditScript absolutely tracks your reports and your line counts
You edited lines are calculated, your standard transcription lines are calculated, and all of your reports are logged.

If you click on the metrics tab on the toolbar, that gives your line count - you need to insert the date range, and voila! Your counts come up.

Maybe your employer unabled your toolbar?
Format, Font, pick the font you want,

click the Default button.  It will ask if you want to change...say yes.


Ask what font, font size and margins are
Then you can figure out how many characters would be in a complete line of text. I am not sure if I am explaining this very well. :-( I worked for one place that had a small font size and small margins. So it did not work out for me as each line averaged closer to 70 characters, and there were not many lines that had only one or two words on them because of the set up.
You're supposed to plant them in beds and line the bed with chicken wire and then place the bulbs

on top of the wire and cover.  This keeps the critters from getting to them, but is a lot of work. 


length of time
I usually figure 1-2 times the length of the dictation if the doctor doesn't mumble, pause, or have an accent. If there is an accent of lots of vocab I have to check, it can take anywhere from 3-4 times or longer. And as above, this is using expanders. A meeting format would probably be more difficult unless they are taping it professionally. Otherwise, people's voices may fade in and out, you might have background noise, etc. In this case, I would figure around 8 hours, maybe a bit more.
Well if the file is 60 min in length

How long does it take you to transcribe 60 min of dictation?   If it doesn't take that long, then swell, but if it takes you all day, then that's not much hourly...


Paid by the dictated minute is horrible especially when you've got a speed demon dictator that turns out it's actually 120 min worth of dictation because they talk so darned fast...


 


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living is pretty easy here. Low stress..
Depends on length of page
If you get $2.50 a page, that's including short pages? I find that my average page is 25 lines. They are not all full.
What about the sometimes-variable pay period length??
Twice a month, it's usually 11 working days, but can be a day shorter or longer from time to time....

We have a very generous 125 LPH requirement, which in an 8-hour day would come to 1000. Multiply that by the number of days in the pay period.

We have to average at least 1200 lines per day to make the first incentive bonus level, and it stays at 1200 lines per day regardless of pay period length. I.e. if it were a 10-day pay period, the incentive level would be 12,000 lines. For the usual 11-day pay period, it's 13,200.

My sister works for a hospital in Oregon; they have a 1400 lines per 8-hour day requirement, which comes to 175 lph.
As I recall, ONLY after you've been there for a set length of time.
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Medium to long length acrylics.
I type a little better without them, but not enough to make me want to get rid of them!
Does anyone know how to set Page Length in Windows 97? See inside
New account, they need the page to stop at 8.9 or 9.1, and so I have to put in a hard page break.

BUT, does anyone know how to set the page length to be shorter automatically? Something I can create a template or whatever, and when I type on that account, the page length will automatically break at 8.9 and then I will know to put the hard page break in when the machine does?

Thanks.
I keep it on 24/7 but turn off monitor when I'm away any length of time.

I actually do turn if off every week or 2 but very seldom.  I've been told it's much better for computer longevity to leave it on.  Hope that is correct!


The typing itself will take 3 to 4 X the length of dictation if it's easy but...sm..

I don't know what kind of meeting you're talking aboutl.  Board meetings is usually formated as an outline, which will take quite a bit of extra time even if you already have a template for it.  It's just a pain.  I hope you have a meeting outline template.  If not, keep one after the first one you type for any after that.  You could ask them for one.  Tell them you want to see how they like it formatted.  Hopefully, they'll give it to you on disc or something so you don't have to re-type the outline. 


It also depends on how many people are speaking in the meeting and if they're speaking into the recorder.


 


Also, at times I'll skip a job due to length, not
If I know I've only got 30 more minutes to work and have to leave, I'll skip over a 25-minute long file, regardless of the ease/difficulty factor, so I like that we have the option. I can finish a few more shorter reports for the client that way whereas I might have otherwise logged off altogether. BUT, I also do my fair share of the hard ESLs and long files at the beginning of shift. I used to be 100% against skipping any files, but OTOH, if someone knows they can't do that ESL's work, maybe it's best for someone who CAN to take them on so the reports are more accurate. I would at least hope that the MTs have given it a good effort first though. I agree this might not be abused as much if MTSOs would pay for difficulty factor, though.
I just bought one and returned it! Headachy. I think more vertical length would be better for our pr
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The position varies from place to place..
Sometimes you end up doing VR, which can be really easy or a real pain. Sometimes you end up simply editing files and all is good. Other times, you end up with more job responsibilities and hours than you ever wanted. All in all better than typing LOL.
A gross line is anything on a line is a line. A line set at 65 characters means it sm
has 1-inch margins on each side. The maximum number of characters on that line would be 65 and that includes spaces. If there is 1 character on that line it is a line.

A standard 65-character line usually consists of 65 characters with spaces unless, of course, the employer does not pay for spaces and then it would be 65-characters without spaces.
Anything on the line makes up a line even if just one letter or number. Every line of print is a
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Gross line = each line on page counts as a line, even if it's only 1 word. nm
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Absolutely, I absolutely love my job and
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Font
only when using a method other than character count, such as gross lines or straight lines. Otherwise, size makes no difference (in transcription . . . LOL)
Font
Font has nothing to do with line count.
font changes
try selecting all text in the template, then while it is all highlighted change your font to what you want- then re-save template and that should do it
font changes
the easiest and surest way to make sure you are changing the entire template is to do go through edit and select all- this will pick up hidden formatting as well
Gross line means anything on a line is counted as a line.

You can get an idea in the difference using documents you have already created, assuming you're working in Word. Simply open a document and check the properties. Click on the statistics tab and you will see the number of lines as well as characters with and without spaces. If you're currently getting paid by the line and a line is 65-characters with spaces, do the math and see how that number of lines compares with the number of lines in your stats.


One thing to keep in mind: if you have a blank line between paragraphs, instead of hitting the enter key twice, format your document to give the appearance of blank lines between paragraphs.


Do you like the larger font?
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Yes like the larger font. Thanks.
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yes! like the large font
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LOVE the new font...THANK YOU!
It's so much easier on middle-aged eyes.
Guess I am, too. I don't like the big font at all. nm

tiny font
Something is wrong here. It sounds like this board shows up in huge font on YOUR end, but it is about an 8 font on my computer. The main board, job seeker's board, and compary board show up tiny for me, but the other boards look about 12-14 font, which is MUCH better!
font size
When paid by cpl, does it affect your line count if you type in a size 10 or size 12 font?
Font size
I have an account and they did not indicate a font size - I know that it makes a big difference the more that you have bolded in a report - what would be a reasonable font size or the standard font size to use?