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Why would a company pay by character when they also pay for spaces?

Posted By: Southernmaid on 2007-01-18
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I make 9 w/o spaces but I get every character - sm
on the page, regardless if I typed it or not, plus a cover page that is macro'd. However w/o the spaces I'd say I am out an average of $200 a month. Since you will not get headers/footers, it will probably be a little more. I try to template up as much as I can but only a handful of docs actually say the same thing every time. I figured it out once and I think the 9 w/o spaces equaled 7.75 with spaces. I get fairly regular raises though and with any luck get bumped up to .10 in the Spring (at least I am going to ask for it). You don't say how much experience you have, but if you do not have much I would go for it. I have been looking on an off for a while for a new job but am very limited as I have dialup (no DSL here, and most companies don't want satellite), so I am between a rock and a hard place. Any jobs I do find with dialup offer .07 cpl, unless it is real easy work I don't want to go that low. Make a list of pros and cons and go from there.
65 character line with spaces
TIA
I think it is a 65 character line without spaces but doesnt that mean you have to type a lot more to
get your lines in so you really arent making 9.5 cpl in fact right. I am not sure I understand when you dont get paid for spaces how much you really lose from that. Is it 20% a report or what percentage do you lose. If a report is 100 lines with spaces then what do you really get paid for on those 100 lines without spaces. I think that is what I mean. I am just tring to figure out how much longer you have to work to get your lines in at 1000 lines a day without spaces versus 1000 lines a day with spaces. Seems it would take quite a bit longer.
Do the math. I am figuring on a 65 character line with spaces. SM

Getting credit for headers and footers or not, doesn't make much difference in the math.  It's simply not possible.  Even if you figure she gets 10 free lines per report for headers and footers, she still would have to type 300 lph for 10 hours a day and her hands would virtually never have to leave the keyboard!


Her pants are on fire!


I was referring to gross 65 character per line with spaces, sm
but again, it was very grueling, but possible. Granted, I had no life besides the keyboard.
In Word, take the character count (with spaces) divided by 65... SM
that will give you an accurate line count, but you'll have to write the character count down for each and every report before you finish and send the report.  I put a button on my tool bar that I just clicked to bring up the document counts and then I just kept a log that wrote down job number and character count for each report.  Then at the end of the day just add up the characters divide by 65 and you've got your line count for the day.  Kind of a hassle, but worth it in the long run.
Sorry- meant ඉ character line w/spaces!" - NM
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0.12/cpl, macros count as 2 characters, backspacing is given to us as 1 character. No spaces. Aut
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No, it is 65 character lines including spaces. The only canned text is my own.
I get mostly the same dictators on the same account every day. I do have carpal tunnel starting, so, gotta get it while I can.
What the heck does getting paid by a 55 black character line?? Does this mean without spaces and doe
You just never know if this is a trick to somehow rip you off of lines. I am just very skeptic of it since I have never heard of anyone using this formula before.
depends if includes headers, spaces, one or the other, character line, etc.
nm
Yes if gross line or 65 character line with spaces....Good Deal!!! nm
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What is the average line/hour for a 65 character line with spaces? NM
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Can a company "trick" you into paying you by the 65 character line by

stating 9 cents per 65 character line in writing, but you don't get paid for spaces? I heard rumors about this particular company that they don't pay for spaces and so I'm wondering about this.  I suppose I could call and ask them, but was wondering about that. Thanks. What's been  your experience about pay, if you have one?


 


My company says they pay for spaces but I can't see that they do. sm
I copied a document from their platform and saved it as a text document in notepad. I opened it in Word. Calculated characters/65 - didn't add up. So I took out all things, like signature lines, still didn't add up. Then I took out the template headings. Didn't add up. Then I took the characters WITHOUT spaces and divided by 65. Bingo.

Asked supervisor for verification that they pay for spaces. She said yes. I didn't dare tell her I knew they didn't.

Guess I'm going to be looking again...and I really liked this place. I know if I make a stink and prove them wrong I'll get awful work, or get fired.

Gawd, are they all crooks?

IC, by line, 68-72 character spaces/line
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7.5 cpl with spaces at the company that must not be named. nm
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Company not paying for spaces nm
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My line including spaces is 65 characters. I've heard that not counting spaces
takes away over 35% of your line count. I believe it too because you have at least 15 or so spaces on each line that you type. Use your first sentence up top as an example; you had 77 char and 21 spaces - in that line that would be a little less than 30% of your characters that you didn't get paid for. I don't think it's worth it and wouldn't want to work without getting credit for my spaces.
Quick question! Is 10 cpl with benefits at 74 character line better than 9 cpl at 65 character line?
Thanks
They used to not pay for spaces, but a poster here said they are getting spaces paid. Are there 2
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Pay No Spaces, Type No Spaces nm
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without spaces compared to with spaces
10 cpl without spaces equals to how many cpl with spaces? 
Spaces versus no spaces....

Can someone tell me how big of a difference it makes if a company pays for spaces versus no spaces.  I have only every been paid without spaces.  I have been offered a position that pays for spaces, but the cpl is less than I am making now.  I am not sure if getting paid for spaces will make up for the pay cut.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!


Does anyone pay by the character?

Does anyone know of a legit company that pays by the character?


Any help would be greatly appreciated.


68 character
With 68 character line. What is h/f?
Hmm, that comes out to almost 8 cpl 65 character
Plus freebies, of course with gross line. Am I missing something here?
If you went from a 70 to a 65 character

line, then it should be easier to reach incentive.  That was a positive for you, not a negative. Unless of course they changed the total line requirement for incentive to kick in.


 


Character count
I have no tip, but my co is also doing that. UGH!
charging per character
What is the average charge per char??  A dr called me and told me he is currently paying .002 per char.  If I calculated right, that would be .13 cpl.  Is it standard to charge char w/spaces or not? Thanks for any info, I always have charged by the line  
Yes, really. It's a character issue.
When someone is a thief, it is only a matter of time before they start stealing from friends. I could never trust someone I knew to be a thief. I do not care to share any part of my life with someone of poor character.
Hope its Kim. Her character can go in IMO. nm
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Not if you are paid by every 65 character
and that is what the poster said: If you are on a line count that just takes characters and divided by 65, then font doesn't matter.
I charge $0.18 cpl (65 character) - so you are
in the ballpark, I suppose.
I am in Northern CA.
Black character......
means any black mark (typed character) seen on the page.  Sneaky way of saying you are not being paid for spaces - which just boggles my mind..........
20-character lines.
it's the only explanation.

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65-character line
Some of you have asked about what her lines consist of. Her lines are the same as mine--65-character line including spaces. I know she has some templates, but I just really think that she's exaggerating somewhat. Maybe she can hit 500-600, but I just don't see how anything higher than that is possible.

I do like a good challenge, though, so I'm going to get started with my Instant Text and see where my counts are a month or so from now.

Thanks for all of your replies!!
These are 65-character lines,
Now there's an idea. The 30-character line.
Is this a 65-character line?
Are you getting paid extra for bold, underlying, etc? Don't see how they figure 6 cpl with spaces equals 9 cpl unless they use a different character count for their lines.
I don't think so. If it's a 65 character line, they probably
But regardless of how they do it, 9 cpl to the client has just GOT to equal poorly-transcribed, offshored medical records. I sure hope my record isn't one of them.
I don't think so. If it's a 65 character line, they probably
But regardless of how they do it, 9 cpl to the client has just GOT to equal poorly-transcribed, offshored medical records. I sure hope my record isn't one of them.
8 cpl 65 character in 8 hour day

Hello everyone - Question  for anyone who is making 8 cpl at 65 characters in an 8 hour day.  How much do you make per day, or how many lines do you do in a day, on an average?  Please be honest, I am trying to figure out if it is just me and I suck,  or if everyone struggles with this ridiculous line rate.  Remember in an 8 hour time period.  Thanks  


70 character line
Is there anybody out there in the entire universe who uses a 70-character line?   I work at a hospital and we have to type 1100 lines a day on a 70-character line.  Just curious.
Character count tips
The hospital/clinic I work for is changing the counting method from gross lines to character count.  Does anyone have any tips on increasing production using total characters?  Thanks
I think it was based on 65-character line

All these formulas are confusing to me. I guess I need to ask some more questions. But, it's also an IC position, so that makes a difference doesn't it? Low pay for that? But, you are right, might be good experience.


One character or key Stroke is equal
... to one byte (including spaces or anyother character, remember one KEY STROKE regardless of the input). If you ever want to calculate your bytes for certain amount of text -> paste it on NotePad and save it as text file. Later you can right click on the file to get it's properties to see it's exact size.
What is "compensation 65-character line B/W"? nm
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Has anyone ever heard of B & W 65 character line?
What exactly is it?  I know 65 characters, but is that without spaces or what??
65 gross character line

Could someone please explain to me how this works. I have been an MT for 7 years with the same company and have been paid by # of total bytes divided by 72 x 11 cents per line. I am now moving on to a new job which pays by the 65 gross character line and I'm not sure how to figure this out. Would appreciate any help. Thanks so much.


6 character counts as a word
What would that calculate to be? Thanks for your help. I do not know many companies that pay by the word. I guess I will just have to see what my first pay check looks like. Thanks!
My hospital uses 90 character lines.
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