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You are very ignorant about depression and antidepressants...SM

Posted By: been there on 2005-10-04
In Reply to: A drink versus Prozac - tia

The drugs you list are NOT "happy" pills and are NOT addicting. They correct a chemical imbalance in the brain and (hopefully) allow the depressed person to feel somewhat NORMAL again. They are not uppers as you imply.

Unless you've experienced the living hell that is clinical depression and the wonders these medications can do, keep your mouth shut.




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antidepressants
I take Cymbalta, Lithium, Klonopin, and Lunesta. I know they are all different classifications of drugs, but they work for me.
And PS: Yes, I'm on antidepressants.

Does anybody else out there take multiple antidepressants?nm
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would stay away from antidepressants if possible because
they are infamous for having a side effect of weight gain. HOWEVER, I would recommend finding a really good counselor. After 15 years of depression and anxiety, I found a great counselor. After working with him for 6 months, was depression and anxiety free without medication (which personally I would have said impossible). You are eating for a lot more reasons than hunger. Get to the bottom of a lot of hidden, stuffed things and the weight will take care of itself, IMHO.
Been in therapy and on antidepressants in the past

and ended up worse off than I was to start with, especially since my therapist told me that he didn't believe I had been sexually abused and that I was just seeking attention.  What a slap in the face that was.


I'm just in a rut.  This happens about every couple of years when life just seems to gang up on me.  


Certain antidepressants/anti-anxiety meds also attribute to being antagonistic.
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UR Ignorant
Can you read?  Did you even read my post?  I am not whining, I am trying to explain to you why some people can not leave their jobs.  How dare you presume to know me or anything about me?  You are starting to sound suspiciously like MQLover, Chucky, Frankie Boy, Zipper, et al....
How ignorant are you?
That has got to be the most ludicrous statement that I have ever heard. Such arrogance coming from where? A fellow American? Who do you think you are making a statement like that? Of course they have a right to earn a living just as we do. Yes they are mostly a very poor people and yes they are nice. But of course, you can't get over yourself for one second now can you? What makes you think that because we are Americans we are SO MUCH BETTER than anyone else in the world? That is just absolutely not true. If you can believe that for one second then you truly are living with rose colored glasses on and I for one feel sorry for you. That is a pathetic existence to have.
You think I am ignorant?!....
I told you how many ILLEGALS I have known on the post below. I am curious to know how many YOU know. Don't tell people they are ignorant until you know the situation. Find out the facts before you speak. I usually do. I can take shelered because I am from a small town. I can even take naive because I have been there before. But I can not and will not take being called IGNORANT by someone who does not even know me OR know my circumstances. I have never BEEN nor am I IGNORANT. That is a very rude thing to say. I have never called anyone that on this board and I haven't seen other people call anyone that either. Have a little respect.
sorry but the Bible isn't ignorant, dear.

might be careful of that violent tendency as well, all that hammering on someone's head.

besides, everyone here is entitled to their opinion.


I do, but am software ignorant - if it's about the prog
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They're ignorant - some hubbies...sm

That's why I don't want another one....did it once - won't do it again.  My daughter, by the way, got me the only thing I wanted, a dish garden....and it was in a big turtle with a little baby turtle hanging onto the big (mommy) turtle.  I love dish gardens. 


The older children will eventually GET it, especially when THEY become parents.  *lol*


Life brings with it the ignorant!
Most patients probably don't realize that it is the nurse that handles their care essentially.  She/he alerts the doctor with problems, questions that arise, health status, etc.  The physician will "round", but it is the nurse that handles the "triage" tasks so to speak.  The patients are usually nice to the doctors, but expect the nurses to be their "slaves".  Yes, I am also a patient advocate since I've lost both of my parents in an inpatient healthcare setting and both with terminal diseases, but I also believe that a hospital is not a "hotel" where every whimsical desire is granted.  To understand why a nurse would say that is quite easy.  Transcriptionists sit at desks and look like secretaries.  It is only when the Transcriptionist is not there that the triumphs are noticed by others.  When I left a hospital setting, I had to train six, I mind you, (6) people to do my job.  I was full-time.  It is funny how much transcriptionists do that goes unnoticed until they are no longer there to do it.  What a smack in the face that hospital got, and it is a shame because it is the patient that will suffer.  Unfortunately, we don't usually get the recognition we deserve, but at least we can sleep at night knowing we've contributed.  I wonder if the same posters on these boards that complain they are unappreciated are the same ones complaining about having to work the holidays???????  I'm sure I'll get blasted for that one!  Oh well, I love my job and most people do that are in the transcription field, hence, they would not do it at all!  Wouldn't most of you agree?  I don't want to offend anyone, but it is just how I feel!  Be safe out there! 
He is the one doing the wrong spelling and we are ignorant???
HE, HE, HE, HE
What an embarrassing, ignorant post
you really ought to be ashamed of your comments but I'm not taking any bets.
Forgive an ignorant question

What's a gross line?


Stupid, I know.  I really don't know what that is, though. Thanks.


Name-calling is the first sign of an ignorant person
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That's a pretty ignorant statement - do you know what "customs" are???
Women are to be accompanied by men and are to follow the laws in the Middle East.
I love how stating what I believe to be factual is ignorant- this has nothing
customs or what their religious beliefs or morality is. I am just saying it will most likely be nothing like she expects, certainly nothing like the freedom we have here in the U.S., and she should think long and hard about it. Go in with your eyes open. Boy, the things people take "offense" at on this board is unbelieveable.
And name-calling makes one look more ignorant than ever, dear.
There's a name for you too, sweetie, but it's "politically incorrect" to use it. You know what it is though.

Now go read the New York Times and dream of a better world while we all stand in a circle holding hands and singing Koom-by-ah!

Wondering what part of Fanbelt, Idaho this one's from.
can you explain EMR - I know about voice recognition, but I am ignorant
about this.  How exactly does it work.  I had always assumed it was for lab results and such.  Do they do clinic notes, letters, discharge summaries this way?
WHATEVER. I can't handle ignorant people, which means this conversation is over.
SEE YA!
Dx Manic Depression
My best friend of the past 16 years is manic depressive. She comes from a family who many have either manic depression or bipolar disorder. She is a great person and a truly wonderful friend. Her depression is part of her. At times it can be hard, but not for me... for her. Being there for a friend when they need it is all they you need to do. Regardless of anything. Be supportive. Be all of the things you would be with ANY friend that you have. This is no different.
I certainly don't think transcription causes the depression..

I think that maybe in-home Transcriptionist need to get out more and be part of other things, and the lack of then might bring on the depression.  I could see where social anxiety could come into a factor in this lifestyle.  That why it is important to join groups and clubs and have interests and friends away from this computer.  As for transcription, I enjoying doing what I do and have done for the past 12 years.  Yeah, it has it bad points, but do does every job.  I probably make more than anywhere else I could around my town, I don't get paid vacations or even a paid sick day, but when I worked in an office It would take an act of congress to get a vacation day approved, so go-figure....


Some people say, "Gosh! I don't know how you do that all day", and  my response, Gosh! I don't see how you do what you do all day and you don't make half what I make!!!!!"  To each their own.  It is more than a job, it is a carreer and when you have a carreer you are continually learning.  Knowledge is power no matter what you do.   Where else can you be part of the birth a baby or two or three - with one mother who had been trying to have a child 7 times,  remove a bullet from a spinal cord of a police officer, counsel a battered homeless wife,  help a HIV patient try to find shelter,  have a 16 yo MVA patient come in and go through surgery after surgery and then see that he gets discharged home,  where else could you be a fly on the wall when all these things are going on and just sit back in wonder and sometimes be thankful, that is not my child or that is not my husband and that is not my parent!  And this can all be in one days' work.   Never got dirty, did not have to buy any gas and did not have to get dressed up to go to work to be a part of all this.  But it was my days' work. 


WOW did not mean to get into all that serious stuff there !


 


 


How does this presage depression?
It is a possible indication of future inflationary pressure in some isolated market sectors, not by any stretch of the imagination a prediction of depression. There is no evidence offered here that the emerging economies will not continue to expand. Just because India claims the economies of the developed world are a threat to its own economy does not mean it is so. Their economists consistently pursue an anti-Western agenda for reasons wholly unrelated to economic reality. China's economy can absorb significantly more expansion and their rising wealth will, indeed, stimulate demand for imported goods and services. They will eventually recognize that allowing their currency to find its own level on the world market is in their best economic and political interest. That will go a long way toward rationalizing perceived trade imbalances. No need to panic.
I took it for situational depression.
I was on it for about a week when I became suicidal and became consumed with trying to figure out a way how to do it.  My DH had to call me every hour to make sure I was okay.  Also my libido went to ZERO.   Both are common side effects of this particular drug, though obviously no everyone has them. 
manic depression
I could use some advise. I have much experience with manic depression - my mother was excessively depressed, etc.  My problme is that my fiance has an adult daughter who is also a manic depressant, who is also extremely hypochondriac - she has had as she states - cancer, ovairan cysts, endometriosis, migraines, shoulder rotator cuff tears - you name it she has had it - however when we runn all over to multplie doctors - she goes to several - and they run tests, er visits etc, and noone finds anything, she gets manic and really goes off.  She does use multiple medications, pain and otherwise - and I belive she is addicted to the pain meds.  We now have her going to our family doctor, and she has signed papers for us to have disclosure to information and again - nothing is ever found.  Because they are doctors - when she complains, of course they have to run tests, but this is getting costly - the insurance companies do now want to pay - and it is now depressing my fiance, he does not know what to do.  I have been able to handle her and show her ina round about way that I am aware of what she is doing, so she becomes a bit more honest with me, but not to herself or others. Now she will not talk to me.  That is okay - as a MD I know she will come around soon.  My questions is - how do we get her to a psychiatrist that will get through to her and help her.  She goes to one only rarely and she is not honest with him either.  I believe that she has much more than manic depression and want to get her help.  I need some serious suggestions.  Has anyone gone through this and gotten the help they need.
manic depression
Does she see a psychologist? This would really help her in helping her accept her disease.  Are all the other diseases an excuse to be able to say that she isn't manic depressive.  Also she sounds a little manipulative.  How old is she. Also there are support groups such as NAMI that help people with mental illness
Manic Depression. sm
I have had experience with a family member with bipolar disorder, also. Unfortunately, it's probably one of the most difficult situations I personally have ever experienced. So, let me say first off, good luck to you. (And I mean that in a very sincere way.)

If she is taking pain meds regularly along with her bipolar meds, the bipolar meds don't stand a chance. It's just like drinking alcohol habitually while taking them. No way can they be effective.

You asked for help and I wish I could tell you exactly what to do. I can't. I will say, however, to get her off of the other meds and do it now. She needs serious counseling, not what a psychiatrist provides, but a psychologist or simple counselor. The psychiatrists we saw simply wrote the scripts, made a few suggestions, and stuck out a bill. In-depth professional counseling will do her a world of good.....and this is, once again, only if she's off those other meds.

I do wish you the best of luck. Keep your patience; you're going to need it. Let us know how it goes, okay?
Depression is an illness. (sm)
Believe it or not, I understand your feelings about just doing your job day after day and not being appreciated. I think most of us can relate to it; I know when I clean the house or do the laundry, nobody seems to notice, but let me get behind, and boy, howdy all of a sudden I get some attention.

But depression is an ILLNESS, not just a lack of get up and go!!! And a person who suffers from it is hard enough on themselves emotionally without having to hear from people who don't understand it how lazy they are and how undeserving of any support they are.

You need to work on some compassion, and if you can't say anything nice, why say anything at all? If you're feeling underappreciated, for heaven's sake DO something about it. Post on the board that you need some sympathy and you'll get it. We're all in the same boat, really!
Yes it was due to depression and I realize that....

How cruel you are.  I AM not a crack addict - I have NEVER done drugs.  I don't drink.  I don't even smoke.  I do have a child that was involved in this tragedy.  Actually I had two - the one that I lost.  So I am sorry if I was "weak" for the tragedies that I did go through but I am learning to cope with life.  Life is hard and apparently it is sunshiney everyday at your house - and good for you - I don't want to wish anything bad on anyone - even when they have no lack of respect for others.  You should watch what you say - things could turn around on you in your happy life in an instant - and then what would you do.  Would you be considered lazy, worthless or something else that is an undeserving gesture of who you really are?  Maybe someone will say "they are just on crack - they deserve what they are getting.  Maybe that just goes to show what laziness will do to you.  They don't deserve anything better."  I was not asking for sympathy.  I was pointing out how fast things CAN turn around when you are off track.  Merely using my fall to try to prevent someone else's.


I do thank all of the wonderful remarks prior to the rude post.  I am healing but it takes times.  I am actually able to get up and not be sad about what I have lost and I have been able to THANK GOD every day for letting me grow through certain things in my life and that I know they happened for a reason.  The reason will be a brighter future!


Type of depression

Could it be suicidal depression?


Clinical depression
You better believe depression is real! It exists in my family and among my closest friends, and it is a painful and frustrating disease. Diabetes is often used as an analogy to compare to depression. I think it is a good one because a) diabetes is a real illness and no amount of "sucking it up" will help the body produce insulin, b) it can be treated with medication but not usually cured, and c) lifestyle adjustments coupled with medication help most diabetics feel better and function well. The same are true of depression.

Have you checked into a local county/city community services organization? There should be something available that charges fees according to your income. You need not be on welfare or Medicaid to be eligible. Go through the local government pages of your phone book and see. Call any social services type number and they can put you in touch with what you need.

Are you able to consider borrowing money from someone for a short time? Once you are under treatment you will certainly be able to pay it back quickly as you have all kinds of ability to make a living; it is just that your illness has made you disabled currently.

Also, please try to talk to someone sympathetic personally. The human touch of personal contact is so superior to what can be offered on-line. You could tell them what you have said here, or if that seems to be too strenuous, print out your post here and show it to someone, let them read it. It might break the ice and allow you to feel more comfortable speaking to them about it. The person you talk to need not be the one with the answers, right now they need to be the one who will listen and encourage you.

Many of us will continue to listen here as well, but you really need a live person in front of you to open up to at some point. It really will help, if you can do it.

My thoughts and prayers are with you for your success in treating this awful disease.
Depression Is Real
The neighbor has a wireless Internet connection that is not password protected I can pick up on.

And to anyone who thinks depression does not exist or is all just a thought in your head you're dead wrong. I would assume anyone in the medical profession would realize that.

Do you think little kids get depressed and cut themselves because they are not making enough money? Kids don't think or care about that.

I appreciate the warm thoughts and advice from everyone here but please don't say that you don't believe in depression. "Take a shower, get up and go get a job" is easier said than done.
Afraid of another depression in USA

all of the above, and tinnitus, depression. (nm)
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My mother taught me to always "ignore the ignorant." The more attention you give her, the mor
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I suffer from seasonal depression
and am using light therapy.  This has been about two or three weeks now, and I cannot believe the difference in my mood.  It is wonderful.  I put in a fluorescent light fixture in my office that takes four 4-foot bulbs  I bought bulbs at Home Depot.  They had a large selection.  I bought ones that say they imitate sunlight.  Now working under them for my regular shift, I have felt a huge difference in my mood.  I thought I was going to have to go on medication, but now I feel so much better. 
what board for support for depression? sm
My job is totally getting to me and I thought there was a support board on here... I could use someone to talk to. TIA for any info.
weight gain and depression!!! nm
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You're right! I forgot! I'm happy! Not even a hugely ignorant poster can change that! I AM hap
This is the dawn of my happy day, and I will NOT forget it again! Thanks Michelle!!  Well, Dr. Burpinchortle is calling me - he has a STAT report! Really, its been fun, and I would love to do it again! Maybe tomorrow night??  This was really fun! I mean it!!  Good night!
What an ignorant reply, not all oriental countires are in Asia, also in North Africa, see below..
Since when is 'oriental' offensive or an embarrassment?

On what planet do you live?
And in the year 2001?
Depression linked to excessive computer use.

About 3 years ago, before deciding on becoming an MT, there was an article--I am currently looking for it now--which stated that people who use a computer for excessive amounts of time are more likely to suffer from depression. Anxiety can also be caused by depression. So, I think all can be correct.


I think the most important thing is to try to stay active. With me, I have to have a second job, so I think that helps keep me in a social situation. I just hope maybe years down the road it doesn't affect me.


 


No clue but try the emotion/depression board

http://www.forumatrix.com/ads/frame.cgi?action=main&target=www.forumatrix.com/Health/b/4.html


Try this board as you may get more of a response from people who may know.


:)


 


 


Please help on depression board. I put the link inside.


tell her if she really does have PP depression, coming home won't fix a thing.
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Depression? Brings our jobs home
I personally think we are headed for a depression.  I believe in our gung-ho desire to improve our trade partners (invest in our country so we could continue to export our debt) we mistakenly sent our jobs overseas.  Now, facing high unemployment, we need our jobs back.  Therefore, I am asking that you contact your local congresspeople and request that our jobs be brought back from foreign countries, thus increasing domestic production and increasing the number of jobs.  This is the perfect time to do this. In order to come out of a depression, we have to increase production.  We cannot export all production and having to produce.  Believe me, now is the time to request our jobs be brought back to the U.S.  The alternative is extremely bleak, and your elected officials know it.
Left out depression, anxiety, becoming a hermit...
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Did your mom grow up in the depression? Woman I worked with did the same thing.

party at her home.  Low and behold she had a whole room full of toilet tissue she has spirited away from the office over the 30 years!!!!  She had grown up in the depression and I guess it was a big deal to have toilet tissue.  She sure hoarded it. 


 


Prozac was great! Took for depression for 10 yrs! Saved my life. nm
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I'm wondering how you came to the conclusion that she has manic depression. Was she diagnosed

with this?  From what I read, it doesn't sound like manic depression to me.  Sure, she has some issues going on there, major depression would be a pretty good guess, but does she have any manic episodes?


My ex-husband and ex-mother-in-law were both bipolar which is the new and improved way to say manic depressive and they were the exact opposite of hypochondria.  During the manic phase, they felt like they ruled the world.  According to them, they had never felt better, thought more clearly, or got more done, but the exact opposite was true.  They never slept.  They never finished anything they started.  They were incoherent at times, basically jumping from one subject to the next so you could not carry on any kind of coherent conversation with them.  Sometimes they were even delusional - my mother-in-law thought she was in love with a televangelist and divorced her husband and moved to be closer to the televangelist.  My ex-husband thought he was the victim racism when he got a speeding ticket.  He claimed the officer had something against Hispanics.  Nevermind that my husband was maybe one-eight Mexican on his mother's side and has a German last name.


Those are just a couple of examples of manic behavior.  It can even be more bizarre.  I could write a book based on what I've seen first hand and it can be very scary.