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You have a point there. I wonder if it's the divorce?

Posted By: Angelina Jolie killing Brad? on 2005-07-10
In Reply to: I agree about Brad Pitt, except he's not aging well... - sm

It's like Tom Cruise not aging well also.  And have you seen Robert Redford?  OMG.  His face is ravaged with time and his neck..... terrible.  But you get Paul Newman he he does look better as he ages.  Guess it's in the genes? 


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    Me too. Been there, done that, got the divorce.
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    For those of you who have gone through a divorce...sm

    My husband and I have decided to go our separate ways after only 2-1/2 years of marriage.  I have no idea where to start and what to do because we bought a house together, bought a new car together, have credit cards together, etc.  This is a mutual decision for both of us to end our marriage so it's not like it is a bitter divorce or anything.  We would like to NOT involve attorneys but how do we separate all of our stuff?


    Thanks


    Not due to divorce, but our family went their
    separate ways after both of our parents died.  Strange, because I always thought we were close before that, but it could have been wishful thinking.
    He was my divorce attorney
    .
    My attorny put in my divorce that I have to take him
    to court to enforce any part of the divorce agreement, he has to pay fees for both of us.  To the best of my understanding, it's very difficult to have something changed once it's been a legal and binding contract in a divorce.  The judges normally stick to what the original agreement was.  Good luck. 
    Well, if it's due to divorce, you DEFINITELY want an actual

    real estate agent.  You are thinking of the money you think you could save, but what it will end up turning into is a bigger mess.  If you sign a 60 or 90 day contract with a for sale by owner agent (i.e. Help-U-Sell, Assist2Sell, BuyOwner) and all they do is plunk a sign in your yard and give you a lock box then you're not getting much.  They don't do a lot of advertising other than on their own website and they might print a few flyers for you. 


    With the market soft right now, unless you price the house really low just to get rid of it, expect it to sit for 90 to 120 days.


    when I got a divorce -- see message
    Whe I got a divorce my husband tried to make me put a price on my small business and there basically was no value as most of my clients would probably not go with a new owner.  Most of the value was in my computer, printer, etc. which after a year is worth nil.  It is mainly an income and not much else as you cannot quarantee that when you sell that your clients will go with the new business.  Sometimes it can be valued at a one month income.   There are real estate agents that sell businesses and she can check with them to see what they say.   I worked for a small MTSO that sold and what they did was to not tell any of the clients that it was being sold, ran under the same name with some of the same people there and it went okay but that is touchy.  You are selling more the name of the business than anything else.   Again, she needs to contact a real estate agent that specializes in selling businesses.   She is selling her client list and name mainly and hoping that they all go with the new owners which is a gamble and not one I would take.    Good luck. 
    She hasn't filed for a divorce yet -

    Because the state she lives in does not recognize legal separation, she had an agreement drawn up by her corporate atty.  This agreement handed the house (quick claim deed) and business over to her, while her "future ex" draws his pension and moved to warmer weather (California).  This all happened when things were friendly. Now she wants a divorce so she can get on with her life (with her new beau she is buying the house with).  BAD idea since she has not filed for a divorce.  Anyway, thanks everyone.  I think I'll be visiting her in jail.    


    I guess I was wondering how a divorce could have been
    the agreement or been before the judge with your lawyer to dispute something in the agreement. People with nothing to dispute rarely have to appear, as they have already signed the documents that the lawyer presents to the judge. I don't know if you signed your portion of the agreement without having read it to ensure your wishes were followed...hope you find some resolution.
    And they say divorce is less traumatic on adult children....
    Unfortunately, this is NOT the case. Adult children whose parents divorce quite often end up just as you have described. They are old enough to form their own opinions which are quite often colored by their life experiences and how they relate to each parent as an adult with adult biases and opinions. Divorce, regardless of the age of the children, always affects the children and people who are "waiting until the kids are grown" are only deluding themselves.


    Each state has different divorce and family laws; however, sm
    ex-hubby is not entitled to anything after the date the divorce was filed. So, if she filed for divorce on January 1 and hit the lottery on January 2, he gets nothing!

    At least that is how it is in PA. Don't know about other states.
    This is not illegal in most states. Sometimes it's in the divorce agreement.
    nm
    I needed to divorce cheating DH of 27 years. This was
    xx
    You need to join a divorce support group. Look around. Helped
    zz
    Divorce will be final in 2 wks, can I stay on my ex's health insurance?

    My ex is willing to leave me on his health insurance.  Is it legal to do this?  Will we get ourselves in trouble if he doesn't take me off? 


    How true, mine is trained quite well....before we married he asked if I would ever divorce him -
    abused me in any way. So far so good after 9 years. He admits to cheating on his first wife a couple of times though as she did not like having sex (not the reason of their divorce and long before I met him which was 2 years after his divorce). He is germaphobic so it's amazing he ever cheated in the first place....but I think he was actually trying to get her to divorce him (subconsciously)....took 12 years for it to work though. Luckily they had no kids. She did not want kids either, at least not then. She has since remarried too (a month after he did) and her 2 sons are very close in age to my 2 girls. Weird. Men can be such weenies though. Now to just train him to throw out his used paper towels instead of leaving them all over the kitchen counter (my dad does the same thing too). Oh well.
    I'd hire an attorney and do a quickie divorce. They're cheap and well worth it.
    If it's uncontested the attorney can help you amicably sort through what needs to be split and do it fairly and according to the laws of your state. This will avoid potential problems later.
    I didn't apply, so that's a moot point. The point I was making is that
    she's ranting here about something that doesn't even pertain to most of us. You can't come to a MT message board railing at MTs without getting a response. That's why it's not called MTSOstars. Also, it's unprofessional of a business owner to let her emotions overrule her common sense. As for the newbies, they'll learn. We were all newbies at one time or another. None of us was born perfect, not even the MTSO.
    You missed my point. My point wasn't perks but prestige...nm
    nm
    The point wasn't that it was copyrighted. The point the poster tried to make
    :(
    That's not my point. My point is previous owner hired
    nm
    After divorce, child chronic illness, involuntary job change, parents illnesses and death, was force
    I frequently regret it, the changes it has made to my life, but when life hands you horror, at least there is this "final solution" to your financial situation. I must admit, I sleep better, and I can finally hold my head up, and I no longer feel hopeless. Find the attorney you can work with,get your free consultation and DO WHAT HE TELLS YOU TO DO. If you have doubts, see a 2nd and a 3rd attorney, till you're comfortable with the person you choose.
    not my point, actually. My point was the bigotry is the same.
    The bigotry's always there. Not all "Mexicans" are Mexican, nor are they all illegal. My point is, though, people used to make remarks about cabbage smell about the Irish just like comments are made now about how nasty Mexicans are.

    Every time somebody says something about "those people," something bigoted is coming out. That's all I'm saying.
    A point well taken. However.....sm

     


    ...on the other hand the June Cleavers of the past had no alternatives.  The liberation of women over the past half-century has given us the strength and self-reliance to walk away from an abusive or dead relationship or marriage.


     


    I see your point quite clearly.

    The FBI has consultants over there.  There have been search teams from day 1 and also a search team from Texas.  These people have cooperated with US government.  They are also conducting an investigation of one of their citizens who more than likely has rights not to be interogated by a foreign government.  You seem to think these people are illiterate and stupid.  You have preconceived notions from the media and Mrs. Twitty that the Arubans are protesting, which is this country is like a third-world country run by idiots and keystone cops.    So open your mind and think things thru.  Our government has messed up so many things in its own right (sex offfenders lost in the system or set free for example) why would you think they could get this right?


    The point is?

    "Can you believe there is trainee from India, living here in the U.S., who has been training on my primary account for the past TWO months at least....the problem is all she wants to do are the good American dictators and she is ALLOWED to skip, pass over, cherry pick past her own countrymen's bad dictations."


    You have a high up source in your company who told you this?  Why?  And this issue has not been discussed with those in charge?  Why?


    What platform is this Indian in America working on that she can cherry pick past her "countrymen's bad dictations"


    The only reason I question this is because it would be very ethical for this high up source to be telling you this and if you get mad enough you could blow the whistle.  But since I have no dim-witted unethical high sources in my company who will actually tell me there is an Indian MT who is living in America and for two months has been "allowed" to cherry pick I couldn't fathom how you could possibly have this info. 


    So you knowing this is probably not good for your blood pressure or your high souce informant's job security.  What's the point in you having this info? 


    another point sm
    we have failed to mention that working at home can be VERY isolating. Sometimes I go for days and the only other adult I talk to is my husband. If you're on your own, you need to make sure that you stay in touch with friends and family, or else you can become very isolated before you know it! There's a lot to think about when it comes to working at home, these are just a few of the issues being discussed here!
    I see your point.

    I'm not afraid of my kids, and I am their parent, not friend.  I just don't want to completely isolate them from the world.  I don't think controlling behavior is healthy because it can backfire and cause rebellion.  (Personal experience.)  There comes a point when you have to turn your kids loose in the world and hope that all of your parenting sticks with them.  Meanwhile, I was just wondering if there were any nice kids left in the world, or if I'm just overly anal or judgmental.


    I let these kids on my property, but I'll admit that I'm tired of having to watch them so closely.  I correct their bad language, call them on their lies, check pockets before they leave, or hide things so nothing gets stolen.  My kids aren't the Hitlers, but I don't see why I have to be so diligent with other peoples' kids.  And no, my kids and I are not perfect.  I just don't know where to find "nice" friends.


    your point
    I'm not. Only 3 more days to go....
    exactly the point
    It they want to honestly get a picture of the procedure increase/decrease since the induction of DEP/ASR they need to look at an ENTIRE QUARTER BEFORE these were institued and then compare it to the most recent completed quarter(or any quarter since that time). I come up at a 10% deficit, not at the 50% increase as they say. Yes, they are taking only one week and comparing the MT week from that week with the ME work from that week to decide that ASR has increased us which is bogus! Don't just believe me, prove it for yourself and call the help desk phone number on your letter.
    Well you do have a point about that..

    but I think another requirement at the Wal-mart here is that you have to hate life and everything about it.  I swear it seems like it would kill these people to smile.  When they hand my kids the sticker I wanna hand it back and tell them they apparently need it more than we do. 


    Come to think of it though...I think that's a requirement for alot of jobs..fast food places..customer service...the DMV.  Go figure


     


    and your point is?
    You're a college drop-out doing MT?
    Yes, I see your point too.
    We are going to consult a behavior therapist. Some of it also is that kids are exposed to so much violence and bad habits that my son tends to be a follower. Apparently, a child hit him in the privates and he turned around and did it to someone else. He has never done that before, but guess who gets sent to the principal's office. my child..the "problem child".
    So what is your point
    Are you saying that they never fill the positions or what? When you make a statement like this, can you please explain what you're talking about?
    the point is for her to do it on her own.
    research yes. ask others, no.
    that's exactly my point
    why CAN'T you remember what you named his physical exam?  because you have no system.  it doesn't matter how much time passes before I get that same doc again.  I know what I named his physical exam, his review of systems, whatever. 
    What's the point
    in punching a time clock when there is no work to be done?  That is... unless you get paid for that time that you are clocked in?  Our time is worth money too.  Right?  But in this case it is my understanding that you must clock in; however, no work = no pay.  What gives? 
    And my point is this.....

    This is very similar to what is going on in the MT world.  Hospitals are cutting costs by shipping the work overseas and Americans are losing jobs.  Wal-Mart does business the way they are doing and they are taking jobs from Americans by forcing companies to lower their prices and then they can't afford to make those products in the US anymore.  The two industries are very similar--am I the only one seeing this????


    I have friends who work at Wal-Mart, too, and I also have friends who work at another local grocery store, Kroger.  The difference is that the Kroger employees make a LIVING WAGE.  That's why I shop there.  Sure, I'd like to save money and not pay a little bit higher prices, but I choose to support a store that actually pays the majority of their employees a living wage ($9 or $10 as a bagger, $10-12 as a check-out person vs. minimum wage) and doesn't force companies to rockbottom their prices so low that they have to have their products made outside the country.


    Honestly, we can't solve all the world's problems on this forum and I understand that. The problems with outsourcing and what is going on in corporate America are so much deeper than this issue with Wal-Mart.   Everybody is free to shop wherever they want, but I just want to try to make my point as to why I choose NOT to.


     


    That was my point, thank you. sm
    Nursing, x-ray techs, nuclear medicine and ultrasound techs, respiratory therapists, physician's assistants, paralegals, the list goes on, and not all are even Ph.Ds. Well, anyway, if I were way younger, and the industry was looking then like it looks now, I believe I would be considering my options very closely. 
    You have a point there
    Well, I guess our leaders are either plain stupid for allowing it to go on or have there hands out somewhere along the line.
    So, what's your point? - sm
    How is it her fault that you are single? I really don't think the point of her post was so that anyone would feel sorry for her situation. Sorry, I just don't quite understand your bitterness.
    That's exactly my point. Nothing gets done

    because when it comes down to it - they just hire, hire, hire and re-hire until the MTs remain quiet.  Well, I for one am not going to be quiet anymore.  Here's a sample - "The patient has be on a wheelchair for 3 months."  If the doc doesn't know the difference between "be and been" and "in and on" - that's not my problem anymore!!  It's insane.  Outta here.


    Wish me luck - going to fill out an application this afternoon!


    And your point? nm
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    what her point was.......probably....sm

    if you don't GET it....you probably aren't even an MT and probably don't even belong here, and if you are an MT or in this biz, then obviously and evidently you DON'T GET it.


    Didn't your mother/father ever teach you that if you've nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all? 


    I can certainly see your point on that....

    I am not the kind of person to take advantage of anyone or get out of work at all life just happened for me this way and I am doing the best I can to work through it, keep my job, and still get moved.   I wish that I could do things differenly than I am but there is just not enough time in the day for everything.  I think the only thing I can do is do the best I can with it all and go from there. 


    point taken
    I apologize for that - sorry. I will do as you suggested in the future.
    Can anyone point me in the
    I am looking to get into the coding field and would like some information about companies that hire for this.  Can anyone help?  Thanks So MUCH!!!
    Point taken sm
    And I totally get what you're saying.

    I didn't meant to start an argument either, as there are certainly enough of those on the boards (especially recently).
    The point is that
    she would go on and on that she lost through diet and exercise and NOT mention the gastric bypass. I'm happy for her for losing the weight, but call it what it is..... Surgery, diet and exercise.
    you have a point....sm
    it might not be her. I try not to let her get to me, but there are times when I just want to shake her until her empty head rattles. There are a few posters on this board that I have been carefully watching and reading the advice and help they give to others. Patti is one of them, and you are another. You are both good people and I guess I get riled when someone tries to make you both look otherwise. Guess I will try to go back to ignoring it/her. Thanks again.
    Well, you have a point, and I think the
    benefit of the AAMT if it had stayed true to its course would be to provide MTs with stronger education, higher salaries, and help us gain licensure by the state. But, unfortunately, they took a wrong turn and became greedy.

    If we can get state licensure, then we would have to have an organization backing us as the nurses and others do.