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Yup, verbatim just means the report shows exactly what the doc said. SM

Posted By: Endiqua on 2005-07-15
In Reply to: Verbatim - Anon

It doesn't matter HOW it gets on the page, whether you type it from "scratch" or whether you use an expander or Autocorrect. As long as the report reflects what the doctor said, it's verbatim.


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    Verbatim means, according to
    the dictionery, word for word exactly as given.  I think that means every single word even the little aside remarks, phone conversations, sort of almost corrections, EVERYTHING!!  I wonder how long they would accept that before changing their minds, or do they really prefer lousy  quality??
    verbatim means exactly as dictated (sm)
    and you said yourself that you were told the account is verbatim and that includes not spelling out abbreviations if dictated.

    If you ignored those instructions and spelled them out anyway, then you weren't following the account instructions.

    The name issue is definitely something that should be straightened out with QA if your instructions specifically tell you to never type the patient's name in the text regardless of the account's verbatim status.


    Verbatim means that the typed version is the same as the
    dictated version, AKA the end result is the same.  You can still use an expander because even if the entire report is not the same, people speak with the same terminology, phrases, and mannerisms day after day.  I love the physical examination portion of my reports because I have every variation of every sentence in my expander.  Sometimes, there will be one or two small differences that I change, but for the most part, it's the same.  Every exam has "His height is" or "Her height is".  With three keystrokes, either hsh or hrh, I get 13 characters and a capitalized first letter.
    verbatim means type was is said; so, what's the problem with QA
    nm
    If it is a verbatim report, she should leave it that way. nm
    x
    Yoko Ono wears designer clothes and shows up at all the fashion shows. Phony.
    x
    Verbatim is verbatim, but I defintely to the little things to make the doc look better such as..sm
    an eye problem instead of a eye problem.  I definitely wouldn't change too much.  Stick with what they say and only make changes when you absolutely think it is necessary.  I took a test last night and have an interview today and this is what I did.  FYI, I do clinic work.
    Verbatim = verbatim......flag it...NM
    x
    it's spelled right. Exo means outside and you know what phrenic means. nm
    :
    You do not need the 1099. You just need to report the income. Report the company/person ...sm
    to the IRS for not sending out the 1099. 
    I charge the same amount for a "normal" report as for any other report.
    You still have to listen to the dictation and change anything that's different.  I had one woman try to pull this on me.  She'd dictate, "Just pull up my normal, but change this, change that, switch that around, move that, add this, delete that, and change the other."  Then she'd only want to pay me what equated to $.03 per line.  She wanted 1:1 on her dictation to transcription ratios.  I told her to take her cheap account down the road because I'm worth more than that.
    Oh, a report just came in. A report actually just slid in, can you believe it. Hip Hip Hooray. I

    had better get that sucker typed before it gets out of ONE MINUTE TAT.


    If you are careful with putting the correct report in the correct report shell and patient, you will
    not have any problems. I only take away this option when someone is careless. There can be NO room for error on this. One mistake can be very serious. Many do it well though, so just double check and you will be fine.

    I can't see where that shows that at all....
    xx
    Boy that shows you what I know
    I though it was only the MALES that sprayed.
    shows
    Desperate Housewives, Boston Legal, Lost, Alias, Medium, The Amazing Race.  I'm with you will really miss Judging Amy, American Dreams and Joan of Arcadia.  The new Ghost Whisper looks like it might be good.
    Yes it does because it shows us where you are,
    x
    It will be new shows. DH saw a
    commercial about it a couple of weeks ago.  I couldn't figure out the show this past Sunday.  I only saw a little bit, but I didn't remember some of the events.  Can't wait for it to start back.  That is the only TV program I watch during the week. 
    No I don't like any of those shows or that
    dumb Maury Povich. I am sick of all of these paternity tests and all of that screaming, cursing and violence.

    This isn't entertainment nor does it represent most of our country.
    Shows

    I tried to get tickets to O but they were sold out.  Thank you all for your suggestions. 


    I usually do not like reality shows, but this one I
    have to see. I love that show!! I do feel sorry for the wannabe chefs dealing with Chef. I gotta say I am watching tonight, the finale!!
    Fall TV shows
    I love to watch House. It comes on the Fox channel. It was on Tuesday's last season. Not sure yet when it will be on coming up on the new season.
    Junk shows.
    Sad commentary, but they try to please the majority of viewers. Glad to hear I'm not the only one offended.
    AAMT BOS shows 250,000, as does
    x
    Talk shows

    I thought about it as I do quite a bit of transcribing different types of seminars but when I saw what they charge people for a transcription of the show I thought boy they must not pay much as it does not cost much to get a transcription of a show, less than $20.  So they must have some type of automated transcription as for a 8 hour seminar I get anywhere from $500 to $750 and for a three day seminar I get close to $2000.  Per line charge.  But is frustrating to do sometimes as the audio is not the greatest at time.


    But that was my thoughts on the subject.


    Maybe if they shows some respect
    There are plenty of good MTs out there who are constantly getting robbed by the poor pitful management people you are defending. They ship our work overseas, leaving me without work which takes money out of my hands. They force us to take on bad accounts that they committed to and have to lie about because they are so bad (bait and switch) and I can't get my lines strictly because of poor management, unsympathetic management, unprofessional management. I would love to stay with the same company, but I'm forced to leave because I have bills to pay and management does not give a xxxxx about that.
    They put this on and took off good shows like (sm)
    Joan of Arcadia, they also took off Point Pleasant for those of us pulling for the good in Christina. Shows over good and evil have been going on like forever... Hello people. But Book of Daniel just deals with life today in a cynical way. Joan of Arcadia said something.
    When will the reality shows end?? and...
    Who keeps paying for them? Come on America!! How about quality not quantity? Shameful, I think.
    When they have bad/boring shows
    it seems like there are new bottom 3 people chosen.  I thought Mandisa had a good voice, but country was not her best (as the case for many of them).  Also, poor song choice.  Next week they sing Queen songs.  I've been recording the shows because they're just not as good as they have been.  I think Paula needs to cut down on her medication.  She's beginning to slurrrrrr her words again.
    favorite tv shows

    1. The Office

    2. Oprah

    3. Dr. Phil

    4. Ellen (Loooove Ellen!)

    5. Will & Grace

    6. AI

    7. Sopranos

    8. Dateline

    Not a bad try. After all, loads of shows on air saying you can become
    xx
    Wow - how disgusting is right. Sure shows you
    It's right up there on the Sickening Scale with that video someone posted a while back of "trainers" teaching companies how to bypass American workers' job applications, so they can then justify their outsourcing by saying there "aren't enough American workers".
    There sure aren't - not when you kick all their applications under the rug or into the round file!
    We need to lobby for laws in this country that will put a heavy tax on companies who outsource American livelihoods to other countries. We might as well put "For Sale" signs on our beaches, farmland, and national parks, because that's what'll be coming next.
    Verbatim for ESL too?
    Geez, if that were the case on my account (not MQ), you wouldn't believe the crap I'd be putting out - "59 years old pt, denies of chest pain, comes to ER for short of breath," and I could go on and on.
    Verbatim
    I still don't understand, for example I have a doc who does about 20 lengthy bypass operations a week.  I have a 4-page "standard", that I just immediately pull up.  He never dictates it the same way twice, I just simply pull up my standard, put ears on, follow along and delete, insert, change and so on as he dictates, and that is as good as verbatim.
    Since I am on verbatim also, I use whatever s/he says..
    Jim for James etc....however, if the doc is clearly off track, he starts calling Mary by the name of Frank for instance (it has happened) then I flag it.
    verbatim
    The docs at a big teaching hospital I formerly worked for did not put punctuation marks after the word HOWEVER.  That's the way they wanted it and we were marked down if we added the comma.
    verbatim, really?
    Of course verbatim means typing EVERY SINGLE word they say, even when it's a side conversation, a snide comment, etc.  One thing I do that may not help them at all but makes me feel that I've at least let them know that I know - I enclose such words in quote marks to set them off from the real words.
    Verbatim
    As a private IC there was a prominent heart surgeon from Iran whose dictation I "cleaned up" constantly or he would have been the laughing stock of the community. Sometimes you have to "save face" for the client. If I worked for a national and they QA'd me from saving someone from a drastic error, I would immediately "quit." Another ESL went to hospital admin to tell them I was "his friend," I did not change the meaning but there were several instances when I had to make sense of things for him to cover the hospital's reputation. I was taught never to "change the meaning" and to put certain language "in quotes" although as an IC, I would always call the client first and they usually thanked me. When you work for another service, you can't do this, so it makes it very difficult.I guess you have to go with who pays you, but I would never, never type a senseless sentence.Good luck to those who have "bad QA assessments." They should know better.
    verbatim
    it's stupid and dangerous to type verbatim. Some hospitals stupidly insist on it cuz they believe we can't think for ourselves. They say "We've always done it that way."  Well God forbid you should TRY TO IMPROVE.  they say "well, you don't KNOW what he meant."  My answer to that is "well, YOU may not know, but I do!"  They just don't want to be bothered with having to actually think about it. Any decent trx with many years' experience and worth her salt GENERALLY knows what the doc really means but can't spit out, for one reason or another. I'm married to a doc - I know. But he DOES want us to leave blanks if we DON'T KNOW - better that than making something up, which he does see all the time from Spheris trxs. That's what happens when you hire people with one year of experience and don't monitor them closely, of which Spheris is guilty. And leaving a message for them on ESA doesn't work, cuz the doc won't see it till he goes to sign if off, and by that time, he has no earthly idea what he said. Nor does he care!
    IF they got verbatim EXACTLY what they said,
    they'd probably be in total shock at how ridiculous they actually sound when they dictate. Don't you just want to give them what they give you sometimes?
    Verbatim
    The problem is with the client profile. It should not ever have the word "verbatim" in it because the word by definition means "word for word" and we all know all of us from time to time and doctors especially speak garbage and have to be cleaned up. If with followed the client profile and transcribed "verbatim," screams would echo across the country. So I am all for removing that word from all the client profiles unless they truly want reports transcribed verbatim, word for word. We could do that, but it would not be much of a record.
    verbatim, no BOS sm
    Who are they? I would love to throw the BOS out the window, please e-mail me. Sick of all the new rules which don't amount to a hill of beans anyway at most times.
    verbatim
    I must be getting old. I'm finding it more and more difficult to "follow directions" as I age regarding this subject. I can't believe these younger physicians don't want us to fix the glaring errors. The real trouble is there's no one who will be the intermediary between the transriber and the doc, maybe, like back in the day. Way too many cooks stirring the broth and complicating what used to be a common-sense and less complicated situation, transcribing, that is.
    i do verbatim too, but still BOS has
    many points of reference that are helpful. I am one that hated the idea of a BOS, but when i finally succumbed, found there was a lot of useful info in it. Its not a bad idea to have a common reference point.
    They may want verbatim, but if they are in
    an acute care facility BOS overrides what they want.  JCAHO can give/withhold accreditation based on the medical records and they say follow BOS.  It isn't that is is an issue of style as much as it is a patient safety issue. 
    Verbatim
    The hospital I work for now is a verbatim account, but we were told to spell out everything in DX, Impression, etc. I spelled out a lab abbrev and it looked so weird, but QA/Trainer told me to spell it out. Very contradictory so if it ever comes back as getting "dinged" for it I am going to tell QA who told me and they better not takes points off my audit.
    Angelina seems like a man stealer, she just shows up

    home.  She doesnt seem to have a personality either.  Oh well, when you're that gorgeous who needs a personality?  As far as men aging well, I think Al Pacino looks better now than he did back when he first came out.  He had those bags under his eyes, maybe he's gotten plastic surgery.  Other bad agers:  John Travolta (he looks like he ate the old John Travolta from Saturday night fever) and Nicolas Cage, an old crush of mine, awesome actor but seeming a bit hairless and bloated these days.


    Anyone have any fall TV shows you are looking forward to?

    Two of my favories: Judging Amy and American Dreams, have both been cancelled. I'm down to ER now - can anybody point me at something that I should be watching? No HBO at our house, just regular satellite programming, broadcast channels. I started to get into Everwood last spring....


    I just do not understand those reality shows.
    It's so annoying to watch them.  I did briefly see the guys puking all over while the women cared for them, then I turned off the TV.  Really, do we need to see vomit?  That's not entertaining.  It's amazing the stupid things people will do just to get on TV.  And all the squabbling within the teams.  It's all garbage nowadays.  Nothing is family friendly or entertaining any more.
    Ah, so the IRS has changed it. Shows you how long it's been
    since I've paid anybody to do anything for me. LOL
    The eScription website shows (sm)
    a supervisor screen where that information is displayed. It also shows how much time you spent editing and how much time you spent typing. This is calculated by the week. Are you actually making any money editing VR on a line rate?