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numbers versus numerals

Posted By: nss on 2005-08-03
In Reply to: Numbers question! VIP! Grade 3/VI systolic murmur. - MTEd

Grade is always NUMBERS, Stage is always NUMERALS

Hope that helps some :) (good English, I know)


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If they pay by character, they pay for numbers. Numbers are characters, silly.
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65 character line versus gross lines versus pay by word

I am checking into other options for transcription.  Can anyone tell me how to compare all of these types of lines & also payment per word?  I know companies use different scales, so I wondered how they compare.  I have been paid on a 65 character line with spaces, but I may be making a change in the future - don't want to get burned.


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was roman numerals
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Someone posted a whole document they recieved from their workplace on the correct way to use Roman numerals versus regular numbers and staging of cancers, I meant to to make a copy, but forgot, could you please repost this, Forever Thankful. 
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Roman: Stages. Numerals: Classes (nm)
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It was regarding numerals. This was during my training, so I was full QA. There are 2 ladies who Q
One had made a correction from three-way catheter system to "3-way catheter system." Ironically, I got the same surgeon, saying the same thing, so typed it with the numeral. The other lady QA'd the 2nd report and she changed 3-way to "three-way" so now I'm really unclear as to what to do.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I will e/m the question to the QA team. That way, it's in their laps to figure out which way is correct.
Help, cant remember classes and stages roman numerals???
tia
QA question: Just started new job. Was told to type numerals for everything. Received a

correction from "three-port catheter system" to "3-port catheter system."  So typed it with the numeral next time.  Received it back again from another QA person and told to type it three-port.  So which is correct?  I have also always typed figure-of-eight, so now that would be figure-of-8 by the 1st person's standards.  Looks funny to me. 


Input please.......


Thanks!!


Question versus gross lines versus 65-character lines....

I have always charged or been paid by 65 or 60 character lines or per letter or space typed, but have never been paid or charged per gross line.


What is the advantage of this?  If I were to charge 11 cents per 65-character line including spaces, what does this figure out to for an average line rate and how do you do this calculation? 


I'm wondering if it is financially beneficial for me to bill by gross line or to keep it the way I have it.  I do know some accounts will only pay per 65-character line, as this was the deal my first own account I recently acquired.  They were adamant on a 65-character line, but didn't specify with or without spaces and I personally would never not charge for spaces.


Thanks for explaining this.  I appreciate it and hope everyone has a speedy day.


Medical records are data driven. Numerals are data.
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I've been doing this for 20 years and never saw it done that way. It's grade 3/6. You are correct.
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O'Reilly get his stats?
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Seeing Bush's numbers - ratings - dip down to the teens......That must be what it takes to get this country out of the shower - pryed from the sofa glued to American Idol and the likes, and do something about this lunatic we have for president.... 
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I believe I saw a report about a year ago about this. Early projections had predicted the savings would be 70%, but the reality is more like 17%, according to that report. It talked about all the people that have to edit the reports before they are client ready, so the work can't be as fast as they originally forcasted either, right? So what if it's done in the middle of the night if 4 people have to comb through each report before it's ready to go to client. I'm with you. A lot of time and effort has been invested in this "great idea," and I'm sure they think it's going to get better. But come on, are these edits all being sent back to the transcriptionists so they can even learn from their mistakes?
Numbers...
30,000 to 40,000. Sometimes people misread hyphens in between numbers or around numbers when reading a document, so I always put "to."
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Ditto Janet. It changed a few years back and took me forever to get my fingers moving to that top row on the keyboard! Some clients even want you to start the sentence with a number if dictated (10-year-old female). I find that very hard to do!
And run their numbers together
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I don't have numbers in there, it is the
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tr - treat
trs - treats
trd - treated
trm - treatment
trg - treating

For headings I put an H in front of the abbreviation -

Hneck - NECK:
hgi - GASTROENTESTINAL:
hhpi - HISTORY OF PRESENT ILLNESS:

And, for departments I use

err - emergency room
err1 - Emergency Room.

I also have in words I constantly misspell.
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This is something that really burns me up !!! When I went to school, number 1 through 9 were to be typed out as a word, anything above 9 to the typed as a number.... I don't know where these people have decided on a whim to change everything we have ever learned in our lifetime.... BOS is just something for ADHI to make money... If they keep changing the rules - what do you know, more money for them........ Don't get me started.
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Whoops - I guess you know who I am and it doesn't matter....... thanks. We all have a right to our opinion.

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Hi Patti.  I understand wholeheartedly.  Where I worked (QA) WE got blasted if we didn't correct stupid stuff like that (six/6, etc), thus leaving us in somewhat of catch 22.  We were damned (by the MTs) if we did change it, but damned by auditing if we didn't.  I am so glad I am out of that environment.  It was just so toxic. 
Okay, SM, when you get those numbers up, let me know.
In this economy and with so many people having low work volumes, I doubt you are going to find many MTs who are going to be willing to go without pay for a couple of days, much less a month!!  You are also going to find that many MTs are still happy with their jobs and would refuse to do something like this to a company who treats them so well.  They simply do not post on these boards because they are busy working.  Who is going to organize this?  You are talking about nationwide.  Any figures you may have certainly are not going to be reliable - they are given over the internet for goodness sake.  Bottom line, just think about it before you participate in something like this (unless of course you have nothing to lose).
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PHONE NUMBERS
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So how do you explain the numbers
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Would you please explain how widening the gap between the very rich and the very poor and squeezing the middle class in the process is in this country's or the world's best interest?


I think the standard now is use numbers (6)
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yep!! VERY strong in numbers!!! nm

Hyphenation of numbers, etc
Thanks for your answers re the 32-year-old male, etc. I have always been very good at English and have done this for over 30+ years but never really typed it this way for the group I worked for. I want to "keep up-to-date."!!!
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Within the same company if I use numerals in things such as 3-year-old female, I get feedback that it should be spelled out; when I spell it out, the next QA tells me that it should be numerals...

I just wander through work and life in a state of perpetual confusion (my home state).
It all works out the same when you do the numbers - sm
on paper. My pay day is the 8 and 23; used to be 7 and 22 but they have taken to mailing the checks out a day later now--it's the same amount of time between checks just 1 day later than I was used to, only takes a day to get to me in the mail though so not a big deal. You need to manage your money so you have breathing room in case a check is later than normal or gets lost in mail (it does happen). I always try to keep a cushion so I don't have that problem, though that is not aways possible as I am sure you know.
Numbers in what context??
You don't spell out numbers (0-9) when used to delineate values, i.e., 2 sets of enzymes, 3 sutures, etc.

Spell out when used in sentence as following:

We placed 3 catheters, one in the XXX and two in the XXX; or He was the one who XXX.

Is that what you are referring to??
I agree those numbers don't add up.
unless you are transcribing 11,000+ lines a week. I can't imagine transcribing that amount in a week unless I was working way over 40 hours a week!
Not always. Not after numbers and colons.
Depends on your version. 97 did that after numbers and colons and MS took it away with 2000.
How about the one who's rattling off numbers - sm
like labs, and you wind up with more numbers than labs? Somewhere in there they either didn't say a test, or said the number before the test, and you're left listening to the string ten times to figure out where the pattern got broken so as to make sense of it.
You can get 2, 3, or more phone numbers
through TWC.  When they installed my phone they asked if I wanted more than one number. 
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I am talking about editors.... QA people....... one day they tell you to suck lemons, next day, don't suck lemons.  Do you get me drift.  One person will tell you one thing is right and another tell you it is wrong... tired of it.  Where numbers are concerned, I feel that lab values, numbers attached to diagnoses, etc., are very important to write as a "number", but when you say, for instance, that the patient has six children.... they want you to write 6 children.  Give me a break.  And I don't mean you MTs - I'm talking QA people who think they know everything. What difference does it make if we tye "six" children.  Does that affect patient care - NOT.....
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Download Speed: 9848 kbps (1231 KB/sec transfer rate)
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Question about typing numbers.
I know the rules about spelling over numbers above 9, but does it also apply to a sentence such as, "She is a tenth grader." Or is it correct to type 10th grader. TIA.
ECS in San Diego has 800 numbers for call-in.
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I know that if a number begins a sentence you spell it out, but I'm not sure about after a colon.  We type:


BLOOD LOSS:  50 cc.


but what about


FLUIDS:  500 cc normal saline. (?)


Does the "500" need to be spelled out since there are words after the quantity, or is it considered part of a sentence beginning with "FLUIDS?"