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warning - this may be disturbing and offensive to some...and then, maybe not...

Posted By: MTMT on 2005-08-09
In Reply to: CRUELTY CLARIFICATION - converting soon?

There has to be some way to convey to you what is on this video.  My hope is someone else will also step up and try to answer your questions, as I get very sick to my stomach even thinking of it. 

I also do not want to offend anyone who maybe would not want to be subjected to this, you know, who might open the post not really knowing what is in it and then read it. 

With a video, you open it, or not, at your own will. 

Imagine the chickens you see either on TV or if you ever were around a farm.  They are outside running around, spreading their wings...doing things that chickens do instinctly, or naturally. 

Now imagine from the time they are born, they are never allowed outside, ever; but are in fact placed in coops the size of maybe the top of your desk, with 9 other chickens.  There is no room to spread their wings.  They never once spread their wings from birth to death, yet having that desire because it is a natural function and part of their ability to clean themselves, to mate, etc. 

Now imagine their beaks being clipped off (the area with most of the nerve endings) with some kind of hot iron type machine, so they can not peck each other to death, like they will from the stress of being in tight quarters. 

Now imagine 'chicken' fights, as they are so cramped and upset, fights until death, and the dead chicken just rots beside the others.  Maybe the chickens are so hungry from lack of food and water, they even eat it because they have water and food routinely withheld so that they will produce more eggs.  Imagine that life for years, never getting out of that coop. 

Now imagine after being given growth hormones, their bodies become so big their legs will not support them, so they fall over and starve to death, again, in the coop with the other chickens. 

Imagine as they are never able to wash or groom themselves.  Imagine being electrically shocked in the metal cages to stimulate the egg-laying...

Now imagine they do not produce eggs so they are now ready to be slaughtered for their meat.  They are literally grabbed and thrown violently into the backs of trucks, with broken bones and wings, injured, in trucks extremely hot, for who knows how many hours until they get to the slaughterhouse. 

Now imagine being placed on what looks like a conveyor type apparatus, hung by their necks and being wisked by some type of blade that slits open the neck. 

I could not watch certain parts and had my eyes closed, but I will never forget the sounds of this kind of treatment/death as long as I live...

These places are not clean, the chickens are not clean. 

It is easy to see where the avian flu comes from - we (meaning mankind) have created it by the filth we allow these chickens to live in. 

I can not even write about the cows, pigs, turkeys.  Is beyond belief how they many times do not even anesthetize the cows before castrating them. 

Dairy cows may not be treated so bad while they are producing milk, but a Huge percent of our meat comes from dairy cows who no longer produce milk.  Their life may be pretty decent for a while, but it is what happens to them afterward...

I can not even go on...it is a nightmare.




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Very disturbing ..
I was hoping it would make me feel better about that whole family situation, but it just made me feel worse
I saw it and it was disturbing.
So My Space is living in the real world? What a concept. I think I'll pass.
Disturbing!

It's totally amazing to me what they get away with.  I have another example--Mom was taking care of an uncle's affairs and noted that he was billed for a mastectomy.  Not that men never have mastectomies, but we knew for a fact that this uncle did not have one.  We contacted the insurance company who responded that they would perform an investigation.  After a couple months, we received the response and results of their investigation.  They determined that, because the procedure was documented, that they had no choice but to pay for it.  We contacted them again and argued that the documentation was a either a mistake or a downright lie, but they kept repeating that the documentation was there, not just a billing error, so it must have happened EXACTLY AS REPORTED.  According to them, uncle MUST HAVE HAD A MASTECTOMY because THE DOCTOR SAID SO.  Amazing, isn't it?


My husband had a weird sense of humor.  But, I sure didn't appreciate it when I found out, after his death, as mentioned in a report from 5 years previously that he had told a psychiatrist that his wife had been institutionalized for 5 years for psychosis.  That staff psychiatrist did not bother to contact me to verify the information; he just dictated it as my husband had said. 


So, I think it is very important that we obtain our medical reports and make sure that corrections are addended to them.


 


That's sad and disturbing all at the same time.

No wonder we're not taken seriously.


It is disturbing the peace if they bark incessantly.
We have a bark collar for our dog and bring her in if she's barking.  She barks at anyone that walks by, which is what I want because she's our guard dog.  Our neighbors aren't so nice.  I've gotten to the point where I just lean out the window and yell, "SHUT UP!!!!"  I don't like to involve the cops or animal control because our neighbors are the type to retaliate.
I find it pretty darned disturbing.
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It's disgraceful and offensive. Too bad if you don't like it
when others are offended by such lack of character and integrity.

If you're an adult, learn to speak like one and leave the juvenile language in the toilet where it belongs.
I Don't Find It Offensive...

I've been told a lot of times that "they can do transcription," and my response is "yeah!! you can do transcription." ... I simply tell them take transcription class, work in hospitals or companies that hire newbies, when you have enough experience (2-5yrs) then you can apply to companies that allows you to work from home.


Your neighbor doesn't mean to offend you... actually, reading between the lines, you inspire her...


curiosity sometimes is a way to become successful in this business.


 


I agree with you. It's very VERY offensive!
THe problem is, though, that it's okay to offend you or anyone else who is a Caucasian of European descent and push minorities and their "cultures" down our throats, and even worse those of our children. Something has to be done about it because it's ridiculous, offensive and just plain nauseating.

Your kids have a right to be proud of their heritage too, not to be made to feel guilty about it or taught that it's something to be disregarded.
not meant to be offensive
but you have to admit, statistically MT's are more likely to have big rear ends. And so do quilters. Of which I am both. LOL. Relax.
Thanks "Me" - That's why it's offensive! (sm)
I live in a southern state and the term "ebonics" is used in a derogatory way around here. There are bad dictators of every race and nationality, but we all know who the term "ebonics" refers to! I don't like bad dictators either, but I also don't like prejudice!
Eubonics is offensive.
The post that says MT is po' should be removed. That was the reason for the post.
You suggest being less offensive ... yet
you are obnoxious!!!
Offensive remark
As a Transcriptionist who also happens to have a handicap, I found your remark quite offensive "still willing to work and not live off the rest of us."  I am always WILLING to work but am not always able.  I do not choose to live off you or the government or anyone else.  However, there are programs available to handicapped people that I have qualified for.  That is because I paid my taxes for years, just like everyone else. 
I think it is unique - not offensive at all nm
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Please ban rude and offensive MQLover
This person intentionally starts threads just to cause turmoil.  When people try to answer her back in an intelligent, civilized manner she starts name calling and saying people are stupid, lazy, fat, etc.  This type of nonsense should not be tolerated on this board.  Some of us are professional and would like the timber of this board to be kept that way.  Can you at least ban her until she learns manners and etiquette?  No need to be insulted when we come on here looking for help.  Thank you
That's very rude and offensive to many people (nm)
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Whoa, offensive. Maybe I'm old but it's not nice to see
You said you were in your 50s and you would put up a picture like that? I would expect that of a child or teenager but not a grown adult. Like the other poster said, are you trying to gain attention? What I don't understand is why people think the only way to be funny is by using foul language. You asked for opinions, well you got mine.

Also, to the other poster who said the F word is offensive. To the younger generation, the F word is perfectly ok to use yet you take offense to that. See what I mean ROEmpty?

And, I think having pictures with foul language only makes our industry look unprofessional.
it WAS unprofessional; probably meant as a cliche, but still offensive to some - nm
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Could you please explain why you find this term so offensive?
The term 'wannabe' is regularly used in society and it not considered a terrible insult. It stands for someone who 'wants to be' like someone or something else - for example someone who copies Madonna because she wants to be as controversial or as famous, etc.

True it's not generally meant as a compliment because it's applied to those are striving to be something they probably can't be, often because of lack of 'enough' talent or capabilities... but it's really not an out and out slam - and certainly not racial in any way, or gender-biased.

The original poster seems to have used the term correctly.

How many posters feel that my avatar is offensive?
I would be interested in any and all feedback on the offensiveness of my avatar. Please feel free to express your honest opinion.

Thank you!
Prior to posting here, this is what I found on Wikipedia and why I assumed it was, if not offensive,

From Wikipedia, searching the term Oriental. See what I have bolded and underlined.


Perceptions and connotations



[edit] American English


Controversy surrounds connotations of the term in American English. (See also American and British English differences.) According to Abdurrahman R. Squires, "politically correct terms have taken the place of the word 'Orientalism'".[2]


While a number of reference works used in the United States describe Oriental as pejorative, antiquated or offensive in some instances, the American Heritage Book of English Usage notes that



It is worth remembering, though, that Oriental is not an ethnic slur to be avoided in all situations. It is most objectionable in contemporary contexts and when used as a noun, as in the appointment of an Oriental to head the commission. In these cases Asian (or a more specific term such as Vietnamese, Korean, or Asian American, if appropriate) is the only acceptable term. But in certain historical contexts, or when its exotic connotations are integral to the topic, Oriental remains a useful term.[3]

Random House's Guide to Sensitive Language states "Other words (e.g., Oriental, colored) are outdated or inaccurate." This Guide to Sensitive Language suggests the use of "Asian or more specific designation such as Pacific Islander, Chinese American, [or] Korean." [4] Merriam-Webster describes the term as "sometimes offensive,"[5] Encarta states when the term is used as a noun it is considered "a highly offensive term for somebody from East Asia." [6]


But I appreciate the warning and hopefully no one else will get taken.
 
Thanks for the warning!!!
That was the kind of feedback I was looking for. If I don't ask, I know I won't find out. You have helped me. Thank you.
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Thanks for the warning - sm
I too have sat by and watch other MLSs at my current company sabotage others doing the same thing.

This is why I like working at home. No office politics and I can choose to ignore the hen pecking and prattle by coworkers.
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Warning!
This is a great idea. Maybe you can warn the people aspiring to be MTs not to go in it for the money. I enjoy transcribing and love staying at home, but no way could I ever make a decent living doing this only. I have had to take on two jobs working 16 hours a day to make what I made when I first started out. Its sad.
Thank you for the warning.........

The sad thing is, for you who are Christians, is that these companies do not realize or care that they will answer to Jesus the King of all for their sins (it remains to be seen if it will be in this life or in the life to come).  Its a tripp, MTSO want an honest, hardworking MT, but use every trickery in the book...............


WARNING to those trying to PREVENT it.....
A few years ago my daughter's 2nd grade class kept having a lice problem. My daughter never showed any signs of it BUT one day she came home and told me her 2 best friends, who she played with and sat by, were sent home with it. So I panicked and did the stuff in her hair just to get anything that (in my mind) was probably there.

Well, my daughter had a neurologic reaction to the RID or whatever I used. Her one arm was shaking, it was scary. I took her to the ED and the doc made me feel about 1 inch tall. He said "WHY WOULD YOU PUT IT ON HER IF SHE DIDN'T HAVE LICE???"

I explained but he said people just don't get it, this stuff is basically a PESTICIDE.

So if your child has it then use it, but PLEASE don't just use it to keep him/her "clean" as a measure to prevent it. Take it from a ~guilt-ridden~ mother.

I saw a warning on another one of your posts (SM)
and I think it is because your initials have MQ in them and they are going through and deleting anything related to that company that is posted here, even though you say nothing about the company. I don't think that is right, because you are answering other things and not bringing your company name into this.
That wuz a creeper warning, lol. nm
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Warning: ACE Transcription ad (SM)

This ad on the Main board has been removed.  The ISP is overseas. 


 


Book as a Warning...
I would like the book to be as realistic as possible because people looking into it are going to be making an investment in time and money.  That's why when some people suggested I do a "how-to" to get into this business, I really wasn't sure because I didn't want people to think it was easy money like some ads have you believe.  I wouldn't go so far as a warning... just being realistic about what you can achieve.  I want MT input, which is great, because this way it won't be lopsided with my experiences only.  Thanks!
Chantix Warning
as it must be just horrible to stop!

 

I received this today regarding Chantix......


FDA informed healthcare professionals and consumers of important revisions to the WARNINGS and PRECAUTIONS sections of the prescribing information for Chantix regarding serious neuropsychiatric symptoms experienced in patients taking Chantix. These symptoms include changes in behavior, agitation, depressed mood, suicidal ideation, and attempted and completed suicide. While some patients may have experienced these types of symptoms and events as a result of nicotine withdrawal, some patients taking Chantix who experienced serious neuropsychiatric symptoms and events had not yet discontinued smoking. In most cases, neuropsychiatric symptoms developed during Chantix treatment, but in others, symptoms developed following withdrawal of Chantix therapy. See the FDA Information for Healthcare Professionals Sheet for recommendations and considerations for healthcare professionals on using Chantix therapy for patients. 


Read the complete 2008 MedWatch Safety Summary including a link to the FDA Public Health Advisory, Healthcare Professional Information Sheet and the prescribing information for Chantix regarding this issue at:
http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/safety/2008/safety08.htm#Varenicline

Former CT warning symptoms SM
are totally completely gone with editing.

Maybe someone else will have a more specific answer for the keystrokes, but CONSIDERABLY fewer per minute. As the VR system gets better and better with a dictator, you may spend most of the time just sitting there reading along with squeakily speeded up dictation. Other dictators will have corrections on every line, though.

Part of reduced Keystrokes is expander, too. For instance, I do ".t" when I come on a lowercase "the" between what should be two sentences, which backs up, inserts a period, double spaces, deletes the small t and inserts a capital T, then jumps to the beginning of the next word for me.

When I started editing, though, my Expander wasn't nearly so well developed and I still made more money AND my worrisome carpal tunnel pains, which a number of times required me to take nonpaid leave while I rested my wrists, disappeared. So have the wrist braces I wore religiously every night to bed.
Low pay warning!!!! Take it to Job board!

Warning about MTSO in Scottsdale, AZ sm

There is a lady by the name of Cynde Burchell who owes friends of mine over 400.00 for work that was done.  she is not answering her phone, she is off of the IM and she pretty much is MIA right now.  She lost a huge account and she would rob Peter to pay Paul with all of her MTs, I know, she did it to me twice and I should have quit the first time.  My friends did some work for her.  It is almost 2 months now, and no pay for them.  They have been contacting her, phoning her, emailing her.....they are getting nothing.   If any of you MTs see an ad posted by a Jeanette...she is posting for Cynde Burchell.  DO NOT GO THERE!!! She owes one MT over 600.00 from about almost 6 months ago.   I don't usually state names, but this is ridiculous.  She stiffed so many people, I don't care anymore.  So, I am warning people on various boards about this one. 


Yep, i got the same warning email one time. nm
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In her defense, there are far too many men out there that really should come with warning labels. nm
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A breast cancer warning sm
Let me tell you a true story. I am hesitant to tell it because I want every woman to have a mammogram and to be tested as often as possible. In 2000 a surgeon I had trusted for 30 years read my path report of a biopsy he did for a suspicious small lump. The pathology report came back as "atypical ductal carcinoma insitu which some may call atypical hyperplasia." This surgeon literally yelled in my face "You have breast cancer and that breast has to come off." Due to the fact that friends of mine had suffered lymphoma and other complications from mastectomy, I asked him again if mastectomy was the only answer. He was extremely stern with me and said it was, and my only other alternative would be lumpectomy with radiation and he would not guarantee it. Due to other problems of health issues in the family (serious) I wondered about my ability to type or transcribe again. I even asked him to keep it from my husband until I decided what to do and he called my husband in his office (my husband was very ill at the time).  I called my health care provider and asked about a second opinion, they said get as many as I was comfortable with. I was referred to the head of oncology at another facility (IMPORTANT) and he referred me to a breast surgeon. I told her that I had read Dr. Susan Love's Breast Book and I read about surgeons leaving "dirty margins" from the first biopsy and questioned if lumpectomy would be just as good as mastectomy. I told the second surgeon (a breast surgeon) I had heard of  a physician from "Dr. Susan Love's Breast Book"who practiced at Vanderbilt University in Tennessee. The new breast surgeon did the second operation which was removal of the rest of the "dirty margins" and my slides were sent to Vanderbilt. Their opinion was that no further treatment would be necessary. The breast surgeon called a tumor board meeting and it was their opinion that they were not sure if I did indeed have "breast cancer." The radiologist who was at that tumor board meeting said she would not radiate me since they were not sure it was cancer, as if I did get cancer back in that breast, she could not radiate me again. By the way, the first surgeon whom I had trusted for 30 years told me to "to go ahead and listen to your neighbor and your hairdresser and you'll be back here with more cancer and it will be too late for you then because we don't know what's in the rest of that breast!" He also was very angry that the other doctors told me I had every right to have a plastic surgeon present at operation to install Expanders should I decide to have a mastectomy and want plastic surgery down the road. He was very upset with that and upset at the fact that I would have had my own plastic surgeon of my choice. He wanted that mastectomy done "last week" were his very words. Well, it's 2006, I have had 6 month mammos on that breast and yearly mammos on both breasts since 2000. I did have a needle aspiration for the tiniest lump in that breast which was benign, then I had a stereotactic biopsy on that breast because I was watched closely for 5 years, that biopsy was insufficient for diagnosis, so I underwent another surgical biopsy in 1/05 which turned out to be "atypia." So, whether I am a fool for not having the mastectomy, I can't really say, but I can say that I did question, read, study, make my own decisions. I did not have a mastectomy in 2000, I still have that same breast (a bit smaller, but who cares?) and I still have negative mammos every 6 mos. except for the two ? findings later on. I refused tamoxifen for my own personal reasons, although it is the treatment of choice. I am very, very reluctant to tell this story for fear of just one woman letting a cancer go undetected. On the other hand, I am telling it here (now for the first time) because I want women to know they have a right to make a decision with regard to their own bodies and ask intelligent questions. You have every right. Just be sure you get many high-level opinions. By the way, I did get put on a lot of prayer lists as well. I do believe God helps those who help themselves. I will never be sorry for the chances I took and the choices I made. I hope that trusted old surgeon is NOT right (my new breast surgeon says he is from the "days of yore"}. The important thing is to get tested, get more than one opinion and please, please, if you believe, pray, and talk, talk, talk, and read, read, read. Learn when to say "yes" and learn when to say "no". I hope I didn't scare anyone, but there is hope and help out there for those who are willing to use their intelligence. For any of you who think I did it for cosmetic reasons -- absolutely not! I would not have even wanted expanders for further plastic surgery. I am a grandmother, not interested in body beautiful.  I was the sole source of income due to an unfortunate circumstance with my husband and we would both have been "down" at the same time. I did it because I had to at least ask what my options were. So far, so good. Please pray that I did the right thing and please know that you too have "options" to consider. Please be sure to go to a "different" facility for a "different" opinion, not the same as the one who diagnosed you. I sure hope this helps someone some day, but please, please if the second opinion says the breast must be removed, then you will absolutely have to listen and you will do fine. My new breast surgeon said if it were ever necessary, she could remove both breasts, freeze and save the nipples and do a reconstruction for her patients if they desired it down the road. There are tons of new options for us out there. But ASK!. My message to you is GET CHECKED, and make those checkups regular, there are clinics that will take you for free. I hope if they do find something, you have as good a result as I did. Please go, and please ask questions and get other opinions. Good luck and God bless. Hope I helped someone today but I really, really do not want anyone to miss anything that could kill them, so be aware that this is only my story, but it's true and it may give someone else with atypical ductal carcinoma in-situ some help, hope and understanding.A mastectomy is not a bad thing, not in today's world, but I want you to know that there are tons of options for you and I hope you take advantage of the best ones for you, God forbid, you every need that kind of help. You may E-mail me but I won't "practice medicine without a license," I just want to share my experience and strength with you and urge you to get tested soon!
A warning to MTSO's about 2 editors

I recently had to let 2 editors go for not editing anything.  These two are in a team.  They are now trying to scam the company for more money stating a check was never sent out.  They are currently "looking for work" and if you would like information on them, please feel free to email me.  I would hate to see anyone else be "had" by these 2.


 


Nase Insurance Warning

DON'T GO WITH NASE!!!!!!! It's health insurance is for the birds. Ask me. I know. Every year it goes up a few dollars. Doesn't sound like much but for hubby and myself it's $605 a month with a $2,000 deductible for each of us. This is health and prescription coverage, supposedly eye care, too, but they never paid a nickle for my eye exam or glasses as I go to someone outside the network and my choice was Sears or another mall place I wouldn't recommend to a mole. Those were my only 2 choices.


So far, our out of pocket expenses for his surgery added up to $75,000 and that does not include ER or ambulance. They refused to pay for the ER. They only pay the ER if you are admitted TO THE SAME HOSPITAL. In our case, my hubby had to go 50 miles away for his surgery.Thank heavens he did not have to be life-flighted out. That would have been another $30,000.


I had to fight for every penny of every bill they paid, which was about 1/4 the cost. I spent months arguing with them about things they didn't pay that they should have paid.  THEY NEVER EVEN PAID HIS SURGEONS! 


If I could go with another company, I would, but nobody will take us now, and we're stuck. Too bad hubby got sick just when I was looking around for a better deal.


And, by the way, there is a site called Rip-Off Reports which really opened my eyes the other day. Read some of it. It'll open your eyes too.


http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff131154.htm


Thanks for the warning. I keep trying to use ball of foot, but often use big toe. NM
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WARNING: TOTH TRANSCRIPTION

Hello!  It's been a while since I have been on this board.  I'm still receiving e-mails from MTs telling me that they have been taken advantage of by Toth Transcription.  From what I understand, Toth is now advertising on www.craigslist.com for new MTs to apply with them. 


Every time I receive an e-mail from another MT, she tells me how she has not been receiving her paychecks, and how after many attempts at contacting the Toths, she has not received any replies to her e-mails or return phone calls. 


It's no less than criminal what they are doing to people, and the more people that come forward with their experiences, the better our chances are at putting them out of business. 


I can't stress enough how underhanded and manipulative their hiring process is, and how abusive they are to their MTs. 


If you don't want to see them get away with this anymore, you have to act on this, and warn anybody and everybody about TOTH TRANSCRIPTION in Wexford, PA.


They prey on newbies fresh out of school, and out-of-state applicants, because they know that as long as you are out of state, you have no recourse to go after them to get your money.


******  I am in touch with other MTs who have been put through the wringer by Toth, and they are fighting back tooth and nail.  Don't feel hopeless and helpless, that is what they are counting on.  Stand up for yourself and get fighting mad.


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Yes, you'll have plenty of warning. sm
You still likely have several months left in your home. They'll give you opportunities to catch up on payments and/or find a way to refinance; once you speak with the bank and if it becomes apparent it won't work that way, they tell you you have such-and-such amount of time, i.e., 90 days. My mom is going through this right now. They then send you plenty of legal paperwork. You can get a stay on it if you can afford the lawyer for that; that's a whole other story. You get a definite 30-day notice to vacate.
SCAM WARNING FOR OUR POSTERS!! (SM)

To all of our posters on MTStars:  We have experienced an individual who is apparently running a scam.  We want to make you aware of this situation and urge you to be discerning in any e-mails you receive regarding this and diligent to report any contact with this person or other similar situations with us immediately:


Name: Sherry Robinson
Email: s_robinson28714@yahoo.com
Phone: 828 675 2119
Location : Burnsville, NC  28714
 
She is asking for $100-200 for work at home jobs.  Once payment is sent via PayPal or check, she vanishes and later (after repeated emails and calls) sends a mail with links (mostly broken) to Work at Home Job sites, which any MT can find by simply using Google.  Her scam is via telephone!   The emails she sends out contain only the following information:  Call Sherry Robinson 828-675-2119






MTStars Team


a little word of warning on his stuff Jodi

Knowing me ex for the 25 year pre-exit, I had cataloged every little thing and put a copy in his stuff.


Sure enough, in court his lawyer tried to say that I had not given him everything, kept a lot of his expensive tools, etc! 


It is he says/she says but just stick to your guns and tell the truth that he did take it all.


When discrepancy between # of reports (rad) and lines, they look deeper, one warning and
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Warning! If you do not want AAMT to "rent" your information through targeted

mailing lists, I would not recommend becoming a member.  AAMT rents their lists.  Excerpt directly from the AAMT site... "List renters will be happy to note that MGI provides electronic access to all segments of AAMT's lists, as well as all standard formats."  MGI is the Mailing List vendor that they use. 


So, not only is AAMT in bed with offshoring, they also "rent" your email address and who knows whatever other information to .  And this is an organization the represents AMERICAN MTs?  Protect your privacy!


I have Trend Micro PC-cillin and have never gotten a warning for this site nm
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