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why on 1 computer for the same report would the word count be different in Word? (inside)

Posted By: moving on on 2008-11-12
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Like on 1 computer with word the document was 27000 character counts w/spaces

and the other computer (the one i type this account on says 13,000. How can there be such a difference with Word being the same? I am baffled.



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Cut and paste a report into Word and run a line count there.
nm
Word Macro to count Lines Strict inside

Hi,


The solutions others gave are good, but if I just needed to get the number of lines with typing (and don't need an invoice or a report), I'd use a Word macro.


The other solutions offered have this drawback: If the body of your document contains tables, the count Word gives you is vastly inflated, for Word counts each cell in that table as a line. This is not what the eye sees, and becomes problematic when you try to justify such to your client.


Below is a macro for counting what we at Emmaus call Lines Strict. (i.e. Lines with typing on them, vs Lines Extended that includes the blank lines).


To use it, copy from Public Sub through End Sub, and paste it into your macros along with your other macros. Easiest way of doing this is (after you have copied the appropriate lines):


1. Click Tools | Macros, and select an existing macro.


2. Click the Edit button.


3. Once the Visual Basic Editor opens, press Ctrl+End to move to the bottom.


4. Paste the clipboard contents.


5. Click File | Compile Normal. (If you've pasted things that don't belong, it won't compile.)


6. Click File | Close and Return to MS Word.


Merry Christmas!
vJoe
http://www.mpword.com


OOPS! I looked at the HTML code after I pasted the code into the editor on this board, and it added things that when pasted into the Visual Basic Editor in Word will not compile. Here's the code if you want to retype it, but pasting won't work. If you send me an email, I'll attach the code into a .txt document, and you won't have any problems.  vjoet@attglobal.net


Public Sub GetLinesStrictCount()
    Dim CharsStrict As Long
    Dim Count As Long
    Dim ParaswBlanks As Long
    Dim ParasWOBlanks As Long
    Dim LineswBlanks As Long
    Dim BlankLines As Long
    Dim LinesWOBlanks As Long
    Dim NumOfTables As Long
    Dim NumOfRows As Long
    Dim TableRowCount As Long
    Dim x As Integer
   
    TableRowCount = 0
    NumOfTables = 0
    NumOfRows = 0
   
    ActiveDocument.ComputeStatistics (wdStatisticCharacters)
    ActiveDocument.ComputeStatistics (wdStatisticLines)
    CharsStrict = ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropertyCharacters)
    ParasWOBlanks = ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropertyParas)
    LineswBlanks = ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropertyLines)


    NumOfTables = ActiveDocument.Content.Tables.Count
    If NumOfTables > 0 Then
        For x = 1 To NumOfTables
            With ActiveDocument.Content.Tables.Item(x)
                NumOfRows = NumOfRows + .Rows.Count
            End With
        Next
        TableRowCount = NumOfRows
    End If
   
    If CharsStrict > 0 Then
        ParaswBlanks = ActiveDocument.Range(wdMainTextStory).Paragraphs.Count
    Else
        ParaswBlanks = 1
    End If
       
    If LineswBlanks > 1 Then
        LineswBlanks = LineswBlanks + 1
    End If
   
    If ParaswBlanks = 1 And ParasWOBlanks = 1 Then
        BlankLines = 0
    Else
        BlankLines = ParaswBlanks - ParasWOBlanks
    End If
   
    LinesWOBlanks = LineswBlanks - BlankLines
    Count = LinesWOBlanks
   
    MsgBox "Lines Strict (with typing) = " & CStr(Count + TableRowCount)
End Sub


 


 


Qa sent me 2 corrected report. One had hypenated word changed and other had same word
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Calculating lines using Word Count in Word
I have recently started a job where lines are calculated using the Microsoft Word word count tool. I think I read that you get cheated out of lines if a company counts this way. Is this true?
In Word 2007, you can add Word count to the status bar.
Right-click the status bar and select Word count. Once it appears on the status bar, you can double-click it to bring up the statistics dialog box that shows characters. You can also find this option on the Review tab, Proofing group, Word Count.
Are you trying to move your macros from Word on one computer to Word on another?

If so, try this....Go to microsoft.com and search for Word 2000 Supplemental Macros.  When you get the article, it will tell you to download the small application.  You will open the application in Word, and it will give you instructions on backing up the macros you already have.  You will do this on the computer you want to move macros from.  Once you have made a backup copy, email it to yourself.  Go to the computer you want to put the macros on.  You will need to download the Word Supplemental 200 Macro application on this computer also.  Save the email you sent yourself on your desktop, and open the application in Word again just as before.  You will select restore and pick the file on your desktop to restore to.  The macro will do all of the work and transfer all of the macros into your new computer. 


Now, if this is not want you wanted....... never mind.....


I have word count in MS Word

Under file, properties comes up the word count that shows the lines plus characters with and without spaces and I have no add-ons as I am the MTSO. 


 


The word in a psych report sm
I was taught to put curse words in quotes but I think the term "lesbian" if in quotation marks might cause one to think it is an expletive or inflammatory remark. It may be important to this patient's history as we know there are so many homophobics out there that this may be affecting her mental well-being. I don't see it as a bad word as they use it to refer to each other. I would leave it alone in my humble opinion. I think the quotes would be calling attention to the word and it is not an expletive or demeaning, not in my thoughts anyway. Thanks for asking us though, shows you care.
Word Count
If you use the Word count tool to calculate characters and then divide by 65 or whatever your company uses for this, it is fairly accurate. However, if you are calculating just *lines* with this tool, please keep in mind that it counts ALL lines, including blank lines between paragraphs, etc. This is probably what the poster below has experienced. It is not accurate for counting just lines.
Did you use the word count (m)
in Word that is under properties where it lists "word count", "line count", etc.? It doesn't look like it's completely accurate if you go by that line count. Or did you go by character count? Maybe that's more accurate?
If you are using word, it will count your
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In word?..see inside.
If you are typing in word and say you type a header, return and it would be "Alt L". This will start with 1 and automatical tab over to start typing. When you return at end it will give No. 2. Say you have 3 diagnoses, and when you return it says for, hit return again and this will turn it off. Then to start numbering again, hit Alt L. Hope that works.
Word line count
The company I IC for told me to use the word count in the Word, divide the characters with spaces by 65 to get my line count.  Are you guys saying that this is not accurate?  The owner is a very honest person, so if this is not accurate, I'm sure she does not know it.  I think this is how she bills her clients as well. 
line count in word
Use the characters with spaces count and divide by 65.
How can you count your lines in Word, I used

to use the word count in Word and then divide it by something to get a standard line count for that report. Has anyone done this before? I forgot the way to calculate when working in Word.


I use both DQS & Word and avg about the same line count.
Two separate part time accounts.  I really don't see much difference.
line count in word
Microsoft word line count - what is the name of it and where can I buy it.  Also,on a dictaphone, how can i tell how many minutes of dictation i have left. 
Word line count
This is what i actually meant. i get paid per gross line and i need to figure out how many lines i am typing per day. someone told me there is a program for that
Do numbers how up in MS Word Count

Hi. Does anyone know if number characters show up as word count in MS Word? I'm doing a lot of them in tables, etc. as well as a lot of symbols. Just curious.


Thanks,


Terry


Word count program
I have an older model puter that is slowly going up and have word 97 count program on it.  I am looking for something that is compatible with that - that also does all headers and footers - not just the header and footer on the first page that I can put on my new puter.  I have checked in to SPellex and that is really slow counting.  I also checked in to Abacus, which was fast and pretty accurate; it actually gave me a little more on a few of my reports as a trial run.  ANyone have any ideas on this.  Thanks for any help.
Not 30%...use your word count funtion

under tools.  Take the number w/o spaces and divide by 65.  That will give you the line count.  Then take the number with spaces and divide by 65.  You will see that the difference is more like 20%.  So making .12 a line w/o is great!  Wish I could find a work that paid that.


Even different versions of Word count the same, so it's not that either. nm
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So do they let you get your own line count using Word or
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Line Count in Word

I am an IC and will be starting with a new client this week.  Can someone tell me how to get an accurate line count in Word?  I know that have a word/line count in Tools, but I have found that it is not accurate (it usually gives you more lines than you actually typed).  I don't want to cheat anyone, so I am hoping someone can tell me how to get an accurate line count.  Thanks in advance for your help.         Trish


Line count in word

Depends if you are counting gross or cpl.  The gross does count the blank lines but it is an accurate line count.  You can even put on the numbers to show you that it is.  You can do this under file and page set up.  You can also do to sections only.  But you can also take characters with spaces and divide by 65 or whatever character line you are charging.   Other than that you can buy a program that works.  When I used a program I liked Sylcount as you could set it up to count twice for a capital letter,bold, underline, etc.  And you are using two characters to do that.   But it takes a while to get used to and time is money, so I told my docs I was sticking with gross lines, lower rate and easier and less time to count and so we all agreed.  They are happy, I am happy. 


Line Count in Word
Thanks very much.  Very helpful.  I love this board -- I get so many answers to questions I have!  Thanks again.
I have an account that I use Word Count
I highlight the entire document and take the line count by my line rate.  They pay it.  It's not cheating.  It depends on what was set up with the client.  I have another client that I take the total number of characters, divide by 65, and then multiply by my line rate.  This is another way that is not cheating.  Word Count can be accurate if used properly.  It does not cheat.  I've compared my line counts with someone who has a line counting program and it came out to be the same.
Word line count
I check my Word line count against my employer's every few days or so. While you're in Word go up to Tools, Word Count. My pay is supposedly 65 cpl with spaces too, so I divide the word count that says with spaces by 65. I just did a report with 12,722 characters wtih spaces by my count. I just checked their count by dividing that number by 65 and my count was 195.72. On their counting it is 196.
They may not have word on their computer
They might not have word on the computer and do now wish to install it.  They might have word pad or note pad and that does not have a spell checker. 
Do you use Word on your computer of
on the eScription server? Can you make any changes to page setup, margins, font changes, manually create hanging indents (Ctrl+T), page breaks, etc. What are the limitations?
See inside (these go on the Word Board, BTW)

"10.3 milliquery technician mag 3."


It is 10.3 mCi technetium Mag-3


Alternates, depending on doctor's/client's style


 10.3 millicuries technetium Mag-3


OR 10.3 mCi Tc-99m MAG-3


 


Can someone tell me how to set Word so that header stays in view on the report? nm


 


No, I do not have Word, Just Works that does not count spaces.
nm
Regular vs Extended word count.
Regular Word Count uses the MS word original module to count words (with or without spaces) etc. On the other hand, Extended word count uses the MTStars FlashCount built in own module, the difference between two lies within the supported document types. Extended Word Count supports more document types than Regular Word Count.

 

If you are using Flash Count for MS-Word documents only, Regular word count is the preferred method.

In Word you take the line count with spaces SM

and divide it by 65.  That will give you your line count.  So, if my report had 11,700 characters with spaces, that would equal 180 lines.  Multiple 180 lines x. 0.11 (your cost per line) and that would equal $19.80 for that particular report.


Good luck!


Chickadee


luv2type-line count in word
Thanks for your help!  I'm in Ohio about 1 hour from pittsburgh.  they're are a lot of docs here though.  does it sound good to try and negotiate and start at a higher rate and then drop down a bit?  Also does using your line count in word work pretty good for you.  Do you not find the need to get a separate counter?  Thanks so much for your help!
I used my word count function and got closer to 15.5%
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...count instead, or raising your word rate. nm
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headers, footers, word count
I am an newbie IC and just started a new Dr. when I realized that MS word does not count headers and footers with word count.  Any way you can include headers/footers in the word count or do you have to count it all separately and then add them together?
Word does have Line Count under Tools.
not have an add on.  I use MS Word 2003 and it has a line count on the tool bar.  Are you sure you know what you mean when you say there is no line counter in Tools in MS Word?
Line count verification in MS Word.
I get paid on a 65-character line with spaces, no headers/footers.  When I highlight the text I type (nothing else), and then check under Tools, Word Count, characters with spaces, and then divide by 65, I'm still coming up about 6-8% higher than my company's line count.    Am I doing something wrong?
Microsoft Word.. The oold Word used to do this and I'm new to 2003 Word..nm
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is normoreflexic a real word? see inside

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MD is very clear.  Any suggestions?  Many thanks !!!


One Word: Siphotrol ...link inside
One can of Siphotrol will cover 2000 square feet of house. I have used this in the past, and it works better than anything I've ever tried.

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Also, Word has the AutoCorrect and AutoText--see inside
Also, Word has the excellent AutoCorrect (for expanding words like "tp" into "the patient"). It is an excellent help, the only downside being that it maxes out at about 7000 entries.

Also, for longer portions of type, like something a doctor says over and over, there is AutoText in Microsoft Word. Just put the paragraph or sentence or whatever in th AutoText, and the next time the doc says it, you can put it in.

Also, you can save complete documents in Word that you may use again- like psychiatric tests that they do-- you can just open that document and rename it a new name (keeping the old document as the template, like "Dr Smith Psyc tests" and then rename it when you do it to something new- and you can have all your margins, test headings, tabs, etc.

I would not work without these 3 things being available--AutoCorrect, AutoText, and the ability to store documents that I might want to use again.

So, I'd just drag them into the 21st century! It is actually ridiculous. Would their programmer(s) work without their production shortcuts? They have plenty of them. Ask them not to use any, to type every / and etc. and have no canned programming stored, and see how they like it. Arrogant snobs.
see inside & seach word 2003
http://www.windowsmarketplace.com
extended word count counts spaces. nm
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Transcribing/Word Count for Scientific/Technical

Hello. I just started transcribing for an interpreter who does work for various medical institutions and mainly for foreign pharmaceutical product descriptions. The work is very tedious and time consuming and pay is $15 per 1,000 words. The work involves a lot of  inserting of symbols, outlining, turning off and on bolding, italics, underlining, and doing a lot of indents and tabbing. He said my work was flawless but I feel like I'm making $2 an hour. Any ideas or thoughts on this rate of pay? Being new it's taking me quite a while to do all the extra formatting, etc., and itís not just straight transcribing. He also mentioned that he does translation and dictation for medical journals and just bought a Dragon program.  Iím assuming heís doing the easier work on his Dragon program but Iím not that familiar with it. Any additional HELP would be great!!


 


 


In Word, take the character count (with spaces) divided by 65... SM
that will give you an accurate line count, but you'll have to write the character count down for each and every report before you finish and send the report.  I put a button on my tool bar that I just clicked to bring up the document counts and then I just kept a log that wrote down job number and character count for each report.  Then at the end of the day just add up the characters divide by 65 and you've got your line count for the day.  Kind of a hassle, but worth it in the long run.
Two versions of Word on the same computer will only work
correctly if the oldest version is installed *first*.
Does Word 2003 do cumulative line counting or does it go back to 0 with each report. nm
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